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Jesus did not eat meat, as he was a spiritual being. We are part of the animal kingdom, so to develop spiritually, one must not eat meat, as we are connected.
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Meat was a luxury and expensive, he didn't eat it because he was a bum with no job...
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That's funny. But to be spiritually advanced, you cannot eat meat, it's just the way it is.
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So these indigenous cultures around the world who practice spirituality and a connection to the Earth and to nature, they are all practicing vegetarian cultures, yes?

It's my understanding that this is not the case. Please let me know if I'm wrong. Or should we assume that these cultures are not spiritually connected if they hunt and consume meat/fish? This would be quite a bold claim so please provide substantiating evidence if you wish to make this claim. Thanks.

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Dying an unnatural death, is considered a negative death. Therefore eating meat that came from a slaughter house is negative energy to our spirit. To be spiritually advanced we have to be pure and not tainted like what the system feeds us now. Body, Mind, Soul, surrender to those 3 words, then we won't be in the place of turmoil, that we live in today.
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So by this logic, the meat itself is not the issue, it's the slaughterhouse. Therefore one can consume meat as long as it does not originate from a slaughterhouse? I thought you said you could not consume meat and be spiritually connected? Now it appears the origin of the meat is the issue and not meat itself. Well which is it?

What is a natural death? When a fox (predator) hunts down and eats a rabbit (prey), is that natural, or unnatural? Do you think the rabbit is scared when it's being hunted & eaten, or calmn & at peace? Does the rabbit have negative energy when the fox is eating it? Would it be a natural death if we hunted the animals out in nature the way the rest of the animal kingdom does? Then it's okay to consume meat, right?

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Something else needs to be said in this thread.

Sentience in plants has long been established.

Science has documented this.
Any magi/shaman worth his salt knows this through experience.

Those who cop superiority by claiming to not eat sentient beings by eating plants are....

Spiritually Immature.

There. I've said it.
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Jesus did not eat meat, as he was a spiritual being. We are part of the animal kingdom, so to develop spiritually, one must not eat meat, as we are connected.
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Meat was a luxury and expensive, he didn't eat it because he was a bum with no job...
 Quoting: BRIEF


That's funny. But to be spiritually advanced, you cannot eat meat, it's just the way it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


So these indigenous cultures around the world who practice spirituality and a connection to the Earth and to nature, they are all practicing vegetarian cultures, yes?

It's my understanding that this is not the case. Please let me know if I'm wrong. Or should we assume that these cultures are not spiritually connected if they hunt and consume meat/fish? This would be quite a bold claim so please provide substantiating evidence if you wish to make this claim. Thanks.
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Yes! you have a point they maybe spiritually connected, but not spiritually advanced, that would go to the medicine man, or shaman. Usually The Medicine man, or the Shaman would stay behind on these hunting trips, they were more of the loners out of the tribes.

Hope that helps
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to view them as our brothers and sisters..to love them
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there are 7 billion humans on earth. there 14+billion chickens. if we don't eat them they would decimate the planet quicker than us
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there are 7 billion humans on earth. there 14+billion chickens. if we don't eat them they would decimate the planet quicker than us
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It's not that we eat them because there are 14+billion, there are 14+billion because we eat them.

There is more cattle than humans on Earth. A huge amount of the worldwide grain production is destined to those animals while many humans got nothing to eat.
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Dying an unnatural death, is considered a negative death. Therefore eating meat that came from a slaughter house is negative energy to our spirit. To be spiritually advanced we have to be pure and not tainted like what the system feeds us now. Body, Mind, Soul, surrender to those 3 words, then we won't be in the place of turmoil, that we live in today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


So by this logic, the meat itself is not the issue, it's the slaughterhouse. Therefore one can consume meat as long as it does not originate from a slaughterhouse? I thought you said you could not consume meat and be spiritually connected? Now it appears the origin of the meat is the issue and not meat itself. Well which is it?

What is a natural death? When a fox (predator) hunts down and eats a rabbit (prey), is that natural, or unnatural? Do you think the rabbit is scared when it's being hunted & eaten, or calmn & at peace? Does the rabbit have negative energy when the fox is eating it? Would it be a natural death if we hunted the animals out in nature the way the rest of the animal kingdom does? Then it's okay to consume meat, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Well it's a bit of both. Spiritually we are connected to the animals on this planet, so spiritually, it's like us eating us.

The other, now you are comparing our intellect to that of those animals. As I said earlier, to advance spiritually we cannot have any negativity in us, and meat provides that.

I had not eaten meat in months, and had not lost any weight fit as a fiddle. I was given a negative partner, who is my soul mate, and she is a big meat eater. To have a soul mate we feed energies off each other, what I lack, she has. So If I lack protein, she magically gives me protein as we are connected, we make each other whole.
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there are 7 billion humans on earth. there 14+billion chickens. if we don't eat them they would decimate the planet quicker than us
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Let them loose and see how much there are left, after the wild get a hold of them.
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i'm a spiritual being having a human experience. humans are omnivores. i'm not going to limit my experience, OP, it is a great one. we are all part of a huge cycle and everything eats everything.

when i'm a hawk, i will eat meat. when i am some sorts of plant (tomato, say) i will eat meat (look it up). when i'm a cow, hopefully i will eat grass and some occasional bugs.

why don't you become a grass farmer and raise beef that isn't cruel--and do something to help the world OP?

and actually, i eat more than just the meat. i make the bones into that wonderful all-healing broth. i eat the vitamin dense organs too. and i mulch the gardens with the rest. it is all bueno.

are there cruel farmers and cruel factory workers? sure. i'm not in charge of them, and i try not to support them. but it doesn't mean there is something wrong with meat.
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i'm a spiritual being having a human experience. humans are omnivores. i'm not going to limit my experience, OP, it is a great one. we are all part of a huge cycle and everything eats everything.

when i'm a hawk, i will eat meat. when i am some sorts of plant (tomato, say) i will eat meat (look it up). when i'm a cow, hopefully i will eat grass and some occasional bugs.

why don't you become a grass farmer and raise beef that isn't cruel--and do something to help the world OP?

and actually, i eat more than just the meat. i make the bones into that wonderful all-healing broth. i eat the vitamin dense organs too. and i mulch the gardens with the rest. it is all bueno.

are there cruel farmers and cruel factory workers? sure. i'm not in charge of them, and i try not to support them. but it doesn't mean there is something wrong with meat.
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We are all spiritual beings, depends on how advanced we are. It's all about duality, Meat vs Vegetables, guess which one is the positive and the negative?
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Dying an unnatural death, is considered a negative death. Therefore eating meat that came from a slaughter house is negative energy to our spirit. To be spiritually advanced we have to be pure and not tainted like what the system feeds us now. Body, Mind, Soul, surrender to those 3 words, then we won't be in the place of turmoil, that we live in today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


So by this logic, the meat itself is not the issue, it's the slaughterhouse. Therefore one can consume meat as long as it does not originate from a slaughterhouse? I thought you said you could not consume meat and be spiritually connected? Now it appears the origin of the meat is the issue and not meat itself. Well which is it?

What is a natural death? When a fox (predator) hunts down and eats a rabbit (prey), is that natural, or unnatural? Do you think the rabbit is scared when it's being hunted & eaten, or calmn & at peace? Does the rabbit have negative energy when the fox is eating it? Would it be a natural death if we hunted the animals out in nature the way the rest of the animal kingdom does? Then it's okay to consume meat, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Well it's a bit of both. Spiritually we are connected to the animals on this planet, so spiritually, it's like us eating us.

The other, now you are comparing our intellect to that of those animals. As I said earlier, to advance spiritually we cannot have any negativity in us, and meat provides that.

I had not eaten meat in months, and had not lost any weight fit as a fiddle. I was given a negative partner, who is my soul mate, and she is a big meat eater. To have a soul mate we feed energies off each other, what I lack, she has. So If I lack protein, she magically gives me protein as we are connected, we make each other whole.
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So you are leeching off of her negative meat consumption energy because you do not wish to consume it yourself? I'm finding this hard to follow. It's okay for her to consume meat to provide energetic susteneance to you through your relationship, but it's not okay for you to consume it yourself?

huh

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i'm a spiritual being having a human experience. humans are omnivores. i'm not going to limit my experience, OP, it is a great one. we are all part of a huge cycle and everything eats everything.

when i'm a hawk, i will eat meat. when i am some sorts of plant (tomato, say) i will eat meat (look it up). when i'm a cow, hopefully i will eat grass and some occasional bugs.

why don't you become a grass farmer and raise beef that isn't cruel--and do something to help the world OP?

and actually, i eat more than just the meat. i make the bones into that wonderful all-healing broth. i eat the vitamin dense organs too. and i mulch the gardens with the rest. it is all bueno.

are there cruel farmers and cruel factory workers? sure. i'm not in charge of them, and i try not to support them. but it doesn't mean there is something wrong with meat.
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We are all spiritual beings, depends on how advanced we are. It's all about duality, Meat vs Vegetables, guess which one is the positive and the negative?
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guess which one is the positive and the negative?

<--- interesting statement

I try to think along the lines of which food will carry a higher "vibration" per se...veggies vs. meat? This has helped in my choice of food over the last few years. If something carries a lower vibration (unnatural/unhealthy/hard for the body to process) and I then make it a part of my body...will it decrease or increase my bodies energetic state? Most of the time the vegetable wins the fight. I've been a vegetarian for a while now and still try to use this concept in food selection and I definitely feel a difference if I eat unhealthy for a day or two!
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Dying an unnatural death, is considered a negative death. Therefore eating meat that came from a slaughter house is negative energy to our spirit. To be spiritually advanced we have to be pure and not tainted like what the system feeds us now. Body, Mind, Soul, surrender to those 3 words, then we won't be in the place of turmoil, that we live in today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


So by this logic, the meat itself is not the issue, it's the slaughterhouse. Therefore one can consume meat as long as it does not originate from a slaughterhouse? I thought you said you could not consume meat and be spiritually connected? Now it appears the origin of the meat is the issue and not meat itself. Well which is it?

What is a natural death? When a fox (predator) hunts down and eats a rabbit (prey), is that natural, or unnatural? Do you think the rabbit is scared when it's being hunted & eaten, or calmn & at peace? Does the rabbit have negative energy when the fox is eating it? Would it be a natural death if we hunted the animals out in nature the way the rest of the animal kingdom does? Then it's okay to consume meat, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Well it's a bit of both. Spiritually we are connected to the animals on this planet, so spiritually, it's like us eating us.

The other, now you are comparing our intellect to that of those animals. As I said earlier, to advance spiritually we cannot have any negativity in us, and meat provides that.

I had not eaten meat in months, and had not lost any weight fit as a fiddle. I was given a negative partner, who is my soul mate, and she is a big meat eater. To have a soul mate we feed energies off each other, what I lack, she has. So If I lack protein, she magically gives me protein as we are connected, we make each other whole.
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So you are leeching off of her negative meat consumption energy because you do not wish to consume it yourself? I'm finding this hard to follow. It's okay for her to consume meat to provide energetic susteneance to you through your relationship, but it's not okay for you to consume it yourself?

huh
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Well she has her own choice as to what she wants to eat, not me forcing her to stop eating what she enjoys.

As I ascend she will be the one that is grounded, as she will be my anchor, from keeping me losing my mind. If you know what that means?
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i'm a spiritual being having a human experience. humans are omnivores. i'm not going to limit my experience, OP, it is a great one. we are all part of a huge cycle and everything eats everything.

when i'm a hawk, i will eat meat. when i am some sorts of plant (tomato, say) i will eat meat (look it up). when i'm a cow, hopefully i will eat grass and some occasional bugs.

why don't you become a grass farmer and raise beef that isn't cruel--and do something to help the world OP?

and actually, i eat more than just the meat. i make the bones into that wonderful all-healing broth. i eat the vitamin dense organs too. and i mulch the gardens with the rest. it is all bueno.

are there cruel farmers and cruel factory workers? sure. i'm not in charge of them, and i try not to support them. but it doesn't mean there is something wrong with meat.
 Quoting: queenbee 1562977


We are all spiritual beings, depends on how advanced we are. It's all about duality, Meat vs Vegetables, guess which one is the positive and the negative?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


guess which one is the positive and the negative?

<--- interesting statement

I try to think along the lines of which food will carry a higher "vibration" per se...veggies vs. meat? This has helped in my choice of food over the last few years. If something carries a lower vibration (unnatural/unhealthy/hard for the body to process) and I then make it a part of my body...will it decrease or increase my bodies energetic state? Most of the time the vegetable wins the fight. I've been a vegetarian for a while now and still try to use this concept in food selection and I definitely feel a difference if I eat unhealthy for a day or two!
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When I was eating meat, my body always seemed to spit it out, lick it didn't want any part of it.

The veggies, yeah I like to call it miracle food, as it resonates with my body well.
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GAWD!!! You people are so fucking funny! And ignorant as fuck.
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Dying an unnatural death, is considered a negative death. Therefore eating meat that came from a slaughter house is negative energy to our spirit. To be spiritually advanced we have to be pure and not tainted like what the system feeds us now. Body, Mind, Soul, surrender to those 3 words, then we won't be in the place of turmoil, that we live in today.
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So by this logic, the meat itself is not the issue, it's the slaughterhouse. Therefore one can consume meat as long as it does not originate from a slaughterhouse? I thought you said you could not consume meat and be spiritually connected? Now it appears the origin of the meat is the issue and not meat itself. Well which is it?

What is a natural death? When a fox (predator) hunts down and eats a rabbit (prey), is that natural, or unnatural? Do you think the rabbit is scared when it's being hunted & eaten, or calmn & at peace? Does the rabbit have negative energy when the fox is eating it? Would it be a natural death if we hunted the animals out in nature the way the rest of the animal kingdom does? Then it's okay to consume meat, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Well it's a bit of both. Spiritually we are connected to the animals on this planet, so spiritually, it's like us eating us.

The other, now you are comparing our intellect to that of those animals. As I said earlier, to advance spiritually we cannot have any negativity in us, and meat provides that.

I had not eaten meat in months, and had not lost any weight fit as a fiddle. I was given a negative partner, who is my soul mate, and she is a big meat eater. To have a soul mate we feed energies off each other, what I lack, she has. So If I lack protein, she magically gives me protein as we are connected, we make each other whole.
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So you are leeching off of her negative meat consumption energy because you do not wish to consume it yourself? I'm finding this hard to follow. It's okay for her to consume meat to provide energetic susteneance to you through your relationship, but it's not okay for you to consume it yourself?

huh
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It's called balance. What she lacks, I give her, what I lack she gives me. Like what I said, I don't force anything on anyone.

If you have a problem, then maybe you have some issues, that you need to take care of. Being positive will go along way, much more than being negative, a person of your fine stature, should know that.
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Ohhhh I KNOW you are right on this one...BUT seriously if we ate only veggies and fruit (which I did for a month) we would wither away to skin and bones. I think we, as human beings have been used to eating meat all of our lives and it would be a shock to our systems to stop cold turkey (no pun intended)....

I actually was thinking this very thing this morning as I was frying sausage in the skillet. Meat is my main weakness and I just don't know how I would give it up permanently...

THANK YOU for your love for others!hf
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Truthfully, it isnt that hard to stop eating meat. I am going on three months now. I think you have to be in the right frame of mind, as I tried years ago and failed. The key is to not replace meat with pasta and bread. I do feel "lighter", but have only lost a few pounds. Just can't stomach the suffering of animals anymore. To each his own......follow your own conscience.
Peace to you OPhf
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I think more people seem to be waking up to the idea that the meat most eat nowadays does not come close to having the same amount of nutrients in it that the meat our ancestors ate. I've been a vegetarian for over two years now. I do sometimes eat dairy, but I can tell you with how sick I was, changing the meat out of my diet was a huge part of the problem. I am super sensitive to the hormones they put in meat...so I decided to just cut all of it out and its made a huge difference!

I do agree that people need to make their own decision, and if its for health reasons they need to realize that just eating wheat and bread is not a healthy vegetarian diet as well! Its all about balance and getting the proper nutrient levels!
 Quoting: MissionInvisible


hfIt seems we are on the same path for the same exact reasons. I gave up store bought meat almost a year ago while I slowly brought myself off all meat including Venison. Everyone around me loves to eat meat so they tempt me.

On top of meat I have cut way back on Dairy, and Breads as well. The new lifestyle is exciting because I now try many different fruits and vegetables that I never ate. Eating vegetables and fruit cost much less regardless of what people think. Meat is very expensive compared to natural foods that grow from the earth. You will also save a lot of money by no longer needing a doctor as often.

Peace
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Ohhhh I KNOW you are right on this one...BUT seriously if we ate only veggies and fruit (which I did for a month) we would wither away to skin and bones. I think we, as human beings have been used to eating meat all of our lives and it would be a shock to our systems to stop cold turkey (no pun intended)....

I actually was thinking this very thing this morning as I was frying sausage in the skillet. Meat is my main weakness and I just don't know how I would give it up permanently...

THANK YOU for your love for others!hf
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Truthfully, it isnt that hard to stop eating meat. I am going on three months now. I think you have to be in the right frame of mind, as I tried years ago and failed. The key is to not replace meat with pasta and bread. I do feel "lighter", but have only lost a few pounds. Just can't stomach the suffering of animals anymore. To each his own......follow your own conscience.
Peace to you OPhf
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I think more people seem to be waking up to the idea that the meat most eat nowadays does not come close to having the same amount of nutrients in it that the meat our ancestors ate. I've been a vegetarian for over two years now. I do sometimes eat dairy, but I can tell you with how sick I was, changing the meat out of my diet was a huge part of the problem. I am super sensitive to the hormones they put in meat...so I decided to just cut all of it out and its made a huge difference!

I do agree that people need to make their own decision, and if its for health reasons they need to realize that just eating wheat and bread is not a healthy vegetarian diet as well! Its all about balance and getting the proper nutrient levels!
 Quoting: MissionInvisible


hfIt seems we are on the same path for the same exact reasons. I gave up store bought meat almost a year ago while I slowly brought myself off all meat including Venison. Everyone around me loves to eat meat so they tempt me.

On top of meat I have cut way back on Dairy, and Breads as well. The new lifestyle is exciting because I now try many different fruits and vegetables that I never ate. Eating vegetables and fruit cost much less regardless of what people think. Meat is very expensive compared to natural foods that grow from the earth. You will also save a lot of money by no longer needing a doctor as often.

Peace
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hey Amy! Its been a while! I have been trying to go low gluten the last few weeks...still up in the air about how I feel about it, but I know many people see some great results from it! I see you tend to lean towards that as well! Hope you have been well, its been a while since we have chatted :)
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Good idea...

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naive?

haven't looked closely enough?

don't realize that we are all one, huge being called 'life'

and, no, there is no positive food and negative food.

each life we lead is a quest for survival that evenutaly ends

but the mega organism never dies

enjoy this life, live it to the fullest. don't try to be a vegetarian cow, if you are an omnivore human. accept yourself and love yourself.

Something else needs to be said in this thread.

Sentience in plants has long been established.

Science has documented this.
Any magi/shaman worth his salt knows this through experience.

Those who cop superiority by claiming to not eat sentient beings by eating plants are....

Spiritually Immature.

There. I've said it.
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No.
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Christ taught that HUman does not eat flesh. That is for cavemen types who have not evolved enough to not need animals in this manner. Grow up. See how abused animals are that are raised in factory food farms. Its horrible. and their fear carries over into the meat you consume.
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God gave man dominion over all the animals on land, sea and all those that fly in the air.

And didn't Jesus eat fish? Animals do not have fear like we do. They live in the moment and react to imminent danger only,their fear does not carry over like ours does.

I've seen my horses calmly grazing moments after a tornado took out a bunch of trees in their pasture.
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And why did he cover them in animal skin? because it was over..the paradise was lost..the harmony broken..chaos entered..death..suffering..eating flesh..using hide to cover the body hidden in shame where before there was only innocence

You fail to grasp ths significance I think
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YOU fail to grasp the New Testament.
Again...what did the father do when his prodigal son returned home?
He did not kill the hibiscus.
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But lets look beyond this fallen reality to the Kingdom that will come..its says that even the lion will eat straw

and the lion will sleep /lay with the lamb etc..

no more meat eating..no more killing..no more violence in my opinion

we will again eat the fruits..Thats what I believe

( I enjoy cooking mostly for others..for myself out of three meals..two are only fruit..because I love fruit)
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This can't come to fruition until the 'rules' of the 'game' are changed. We cannot create this on our own accord. If we were to intervene and stop the animals from consuming one another, our fragile eco-system would collapse and we would all suffer. So for now, the rules dictate that it is based on consumption of other living things (animals/plants).

I don't love eating. In fact I've grown tired of it and think of it as a burden. If I could flip a switch I would gladly exist off of sunlight & water, but unfortunately that's not our present reality.
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Our present reality is changing. Check out this guy and others like him. He eats NOTHING. It is called Breatharianism and to me it is mind-blowing. Sometimes we are led to things that seems impossible. It took this guy 16 years to transition to Breatharianism. He is a personal trainer.


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Re: Please, please stop eating meat.
how about you eat what you want, and you let other people eat what they want?
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I'll leave it at that. A simple request for understanding.



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Fuck off. I am have pork tenderloin right now.
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Re: Please, please stop eating meat.
Jesus did not eat meat, as he was a spiritual being. We are part of the animal kingdom, so to develop spiritually, one must not eat meat, as we are connected.
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Meat was a luxury and expensive, he didn't eat it because he was a bum with no job...
 Quoting: BRIEF


That's funny. But to be spiritually advanced, you cannot eat meat, it's just the way it is.
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He ate fish, you stupid cocksucker, as well as lamb. Is that not meat?
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Jesus did not eat meat, as he was a spiritual being. We are part of the animal kingdom, so to develop spiritually, one must not eat meat, as we are connected.
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Meat was a luxury and expensive, he didn't eat it because he was a bum with no job...
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That's funny. But to be spiritually advanced, you cannot eat meat, it's just the way it is.
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He ate fish, you stupid cocksucker, as well as lamb. Is that not meat?
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no need to be nasty.......but no, He didn't eat fish, nor lamb. Neither did John the Baptist.

the disciples who followed him, to wit Peter? He was told to leave his profession and follow the Messiah....leave catching of fish.....to be a catcher of men. IOW, stop catching fish.
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Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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how about you eat what you want, and you let other people eat what they want?
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I'll leave it at that. A simple request for understanding.



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Fuck off. I am have pork tenderloin right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11685337



Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
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Jesus did not eat meat, as he was a spiritual being. We are part of the animal kingdom, so to develop spiritually, one must not eat meat, as we are connected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


Meat was a luxury and expensive, he didn't eat it because he was a bum with no job...
 Quoting: BRIEF


That's funny. But to be spiritually advanced, you cannot eat meat, it's just the way it is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


He ate fish, you stupid cocksucker, as well as lamb. Is that not meat?
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Only when someone gave it to him...it's not like he worked for a living...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: Please, please stop eating meat.
No.
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Christ taught that HUman does not eat flesh. That is for cavemen types who have not evolved enough to not need animals in this manner. Grow up. See how abused animals are that are raised in factory food farms. Its horrible. and their fear carries over into the meat you consume.
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God gave man dominion over all the animals on land, sea and all those that fly in the air.

And didn't Jesus eat fish? Animals do not have fear like we do. They live in the moment and react to imminent danger only,their fear does not carry over like ours does.

I've seen my horses calmly grazing moments after a tornado took out a bunch of trees in their pasture.
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God gave dominion over all animals as in "husbandry" or....think Zoo Keeper.

He didnt' give animals to mankind to abuse, torture, destroy OR eat.

And no, Jesus didn't eat fish.

The difference in animals and man, is the frontal lobe of our brain, that part at enables man to "plan ahead"....or, choose to worship the Creator. That is the difference.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

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