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Please, please stop eating meat.

 
Neoanderthal Woman

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It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this.

Don't say we didn't warn you.
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How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat?

Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19.

Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are.

If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter.

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Mmm its time for a spinach wrap with hummus, shelled hemp hearts, cucumber, tomato, raw garlic, carrot, and some Marie Sharp's habanero hot sauce. No meat for me today. Once or twice a week, grass fed/free range, no hormone or antibiotic, chicken, eggs, stew beef/ground beef. I try but, I can only adjust so quickly. Quinoa is an amazing substitute for the proteins and amino acids that meats do beneficially give our bodies, currently.
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It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this.

Don't say we didn't warn you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611


How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat?

Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19.

Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are.

If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Woman

dang I wish people would stop taking verses out of context!!


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My Weekend Menu

Friday Night:

Rack of Ribs
French Fries

Sat Morning:

Steak & Eggs
Homefries

Sat Lunch:

Turkey Subway Foot Long

Sat Dinner:

More Steak with Baked Potato & Broccoli w/cheese

Sunday Morning:

Pancakes
Bacon
Breakfast sausage
Homefries

Sunday Lunch:

Sausage Rolls
Mozza Stix

Sunday Dinner:

Roast Beef
Roast Potatoes
Carrots
Yorkshire Pudding

EAT UP!!!!

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When I was in high school I learned that deer hunting actually helps bring balance to the overpopulation in my area.

The hunters kill/eat the deer, otherwise the deer breed and breed, they run out in front of cars, they get disease and ticks, which spread. They start eating from gardens, so then the non-meat eaters suffer too, right?

But the hunter kills a deer and takes one out of the equation to feed his family and is called a savage, or caveman, etc by the people who do not eat meat. Not everything is black and white.

I do not like how animals are treated in some slaughter houses. I do my research on how an animal is treated before being processed. If the company (Tyson, for example) is known for being unethical, I do not buy their meat. I do, however, support local butchers. I support local hunters and encourage my husband to bring some meat home for us.

That is my opinion on this subject.
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Thanks for actually seeing it a little more rationally than "hunters murder deer for their satanic desires". If a year of hunting was skipped I can guarantee an increase in deer accidents and overpopulation would start, especially where I live.
We were meant to live for so much more, have we lost ourselves?
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He ate fish, you stupid cocksucker, as well as lamb. Is that not meat?
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At the last supper he wasnt passing round the lamb chops was he? he was passing round bread and wine
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He was a bum, after buying wine they can afford anything else...
 Quoting: BRIEF


who said He bought it?coffee4
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Sorry, after he stole it...of course he is magic, so maybe that's how he did it...
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If you can eat meat without being repulsed by it then you are simply not ready yet and will be returning to earth many more times to repeat your education.
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It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this.

Don't say we didn't warn you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611


How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat?

Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19.

Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are.

If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Woman

dang I wish people would stop taking verses out of context!!


pokeye
 Quoting: Shamar


I don't mean to take verses out of context. I am not an expert of the Bible. I am sorry if it offends you and/or others.

Even without quoting the bible, I still stand by it is not what you eat that define you. You can be the most spiritually advanced being or person but if your heart is not in the right place, I am of the opinion that no amount of veggies eating is going to ascend you. Understanding can only come if we stop trying to change someone into a copy of us. Respect other people's choice in life and they will (hopefully) respect yours.
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It's almost impossible to Ascend or/and get higher vibrations if you eat dead animals or carcasse, you're screwed beyond redemption if you continue to do this.

Don't say we didn't warn you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26985611


How do you know a person is screwed beyond redemption if he or she eats meat? Are the non meat eaters passing out judgment now just because you think you are far better than the rest of the people who are eating meat? How do you know that if you do not eat meat your chance or possibility of ascension is much higher than those who consume meat?

Bottom line is, it is not what you eat, it is what you said, things that come out from your mouth, from your heart that defile us. JC said that in Matthew 15:17-19.

Respect each other's choice of the matter, OP and the non meat eaters you want others to understand why you do not eat meat, then understand why others choose to eat meat. Interestingly, it seems the non meat eaters are the ones often trying to impose their view on others and telling others how spiritually advanced or better they are.

If you are truly more spiritually advanced than the rest, then it would make more sense that you would be more humble and not judge, spew hate and respect other people's choice of the matter.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Woman

dang I wish people would stop taking verses out of context!!


pokeye
 Quoting: Shamar


I don't mean to take verses out of context. I am not an expert of the Bible. I am sorry if it offends you and/or others.

Even without quoting the bible, I still stand by it is not what you eat that define you. You can be the most spiritually advanced being or person but if your heart is not in the right place, I am of the opinion that no amount of veggies eating is going to ascend you. Understanding can only come if we stop trying to change someone into a copy of us. Respect other people's choice in life and they will (hopefully) respect yours.
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I'm not trying to "ascend" or whatever.....I am just trying to follow our Creator's loving instructions. And HE is the one that says not to eat anything that has its life in its blood.

I also disagree with you that what we eat does not define us. We are what we eat..... What we eat, becomes a part of us...it is assimilated into our body. And the soul of the creature? I have to agree with others' posts, that particularly commercialized meat, that contains very negative energy, which also is being absorbed into the body....
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the creator's loving instructions were specific.

eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE.

DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE.

i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree.
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the creator's loving instructions were specific.

eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE.

DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE.

i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree.
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They won't know or understand unless someone explains to them....but they must be seekers of truth before they'll be able to hear or understand.
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unity is a higher ideal than personal diet.
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I eat chicken & fish. Gave up red meat.
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I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view.

I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved.

Peace
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Great thread by the way. Thank you!

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Go your vegetarian nonsense out of here.

Have fun dying of an iron deficiency.
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Go your vegetarian nonsense out of here.

Have fun dying of an iron deficiency.
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You are more likely to die from cholesterol and be obese from eating meat.

But, in truth, I'm not really concerned about this physical body anyway. There is something much more important...
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the creator's loving instructions were specific.

eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE.

DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE.

i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree.
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A fruit is alive..a dead animal is dead meat
Matthew 16>18
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For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

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the creator's loving instructions were specific.

eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE.

DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE.

i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


I know you are not referring to me, or at least not only to me, but you are referring to a common behaviour that is adopted by a person that changes his/her ways.

No change can come, no change can be effective unless its an internal change, so bashing on people because of their habits is.. well, useless.

The point of this thread is to establish a healthy discussion as to all of this.

I don't eat meat and I don't think others should, but I'm well aware that my opinion won't change their habits. This thread is to bring information to the table that many are not aware of. Like the cruelty of our system with the animals, explanations of bodily functions and whatever else..

Actually i'm liking to stay a bit away from the discussions, I like where the thread is going so far, I'd just hope both sides can respect each other's choices!


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At the last supper he wasnt passing round the lamb chops was he? he was passing round bread and wine
 Quoting: wildhoney


He was a bum, after buying wine they can afford anything else...
 Quoting: BRIEF


who said He bought it?coffee4
 Quoting: wildhoney


Sorry, after he stole it...of course he is magic, so maybe that's how he did it...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Or maybe he turned water into wine? wouldnt you if you could? what better wine could you offer? especially if it is to be in remembrance of you
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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I eat chicken & fish. Gave up red meat.
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I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view.

I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved.

Peace
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Let me be more specific and open here. Yes, all animals have souls! I have to laugh having to even say this, because it is so obvious to me.

It should be obvious to you also...
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I eat chicken & fish. Gave up red meat.
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I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view.

I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved.

Peace
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Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat.

Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual and vital to the sustenance of the eco-system? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual?

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I eat chicken & fish. Gave up red meat.
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I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view.

I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved.

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat.

Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual?
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I have no desire to debate you concerning the whether it is ok to eat animals because we also eat plants. Yes, I believe that ALL living things are spiritual beings. I just consider some spiritual beings at a different levels of spiritual development than others. Enough said there about that.

We are here to learn to overcome our instinctual drives and to begin to become more advanced beings that no longer are controlled by our instincts, but by our hearts.

The choice is yours.
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the creator's loving instructions were specific.

eat whatever you want from the tree of LIFE.

DO NOT eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

i'm pretty sure the creator counts animals as part of the tree of LIFE.

i'm also pretty sure telling other people what is 'good' to eat and what is 'evil' to eat is from that other tree.
 Quoting: Neoanderthal Man


I know you are not referring to me, or at least not only to me, but you are referring to a common behaviour that is adopted by a person that changes his/her ways.

No change can come, no change can be effective unless its an internal change, so bashing on people because of their habits is.. well, useless.

The point of this thread is to establish a healthy discussion as to all of this.

I don't eat meat and I don't think others should, but I'm well aware that my opinion won't change their habits. This thread is to bring information to the table that many are not aware of. Like the cruelty of our system with the animals, explanations of bodily functions and whatever else..

Actually i'm liking to stay a bit away from the discussions, I like where the thread is going so far, I'd just hope both sides can respect each other's choices!


-A request for understanding.
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there should be no sides. nor, homogenization. but, as your original post stated - understanding.
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is it too much to ask that you understand why your teeth are the way they are?
--"In this era of great big brains anything that can happen will. So hunker down." -- Kurt Vonnegut, JR. -- Galapagos.
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There will be no sides when appropriate time arrives, for now we work!

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I eat chicken & fish. Gave up red meat.
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I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view.

I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved.

Peace
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Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat.

Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual?
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I have no desire to debate you concerning the whether it is ok to eat animals because we also eat plants. Yes, I believe that ALL living things are spiritual beings. I just consider some spiritual beings at a different levels of spiritual development than others. Enough said there about that.

We are here to learn to overcome our instinctual drives and to begin to become more advanced beings that no longer are controlled by our instincts, but by our hearts.

The choice is yours.
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So I guess the moral is that it's okay to consume some sentient, spirit-filled 'beings' but not others? Some sort of spiritual pecking order, right?

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I'm afraid that you are trying to make yourself feel good by getting rid of red meat, but ALL meat is the issue. Most will slam me for even saying this, but chicken and fish are spiritual beings just like us. So eating any animal is wrong, in my view.

I have been a vegetarian for over 10 years now. No, I'm not down to "skin and bones". Yes, I'm much healthier than I used to be. I try to eat vegan, but I love cheese too much. I don't believe in the way chickens (eggs) and cows (milk, cheese) are raised and enslaved.

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Umm no I was simply makng an honest admission about what meat I eat.

Are you of the opinion that trees & plants are 'spiritless'? Why would plants respond to emotion and music if they weren't sentient? Why is our entire ecosystem designed around the consumption of living things? Why is the stability of the eco-system designed to be contingent on population control and BALANCE? Is it some how 'wrong' when the animals consume one another, or do we say it's natural and instinctual? Why when humans are entered into the equation does it become an issue of morals and no longer an issue of being natural and instinctual?
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I have no desire to debate you concerning the whether it is ok to eat animals because we also eat plants. Yes, I believe that ALL living things are spiritual beings. I just consider some spiritual beings at a different levels of spiritual development than others. Enough said there about that.

We are here to learn to overcome our instinctual drives and to begin to become more advanced beings that no longer are controlled by our instincts, but by our hearts.

The choice is yours.
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So I guess the moral is that it's okay to consume some sentient, spirit-filled 'beings' but not others? Some sort of spiritual pecking order, right?
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Yes. Are you baiting me here? Decide for yourself.
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Re: Please, please stop eating meat.
I think its obvious that plants are sentient beings. But the it's something totally different than from animals.
I don't think they feel pain or suffer when we eat them.

The level of consciousness is different.. it's also different from a fish to a cow for example..
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Re: Please, please stop eating meat.
I think its obvious that plants are sentient beings. But the it's something totally different than from animals.
I don't think they feel pain or suffer when we eat them.

The level of consciousness is different.. it's also different from a fish to a cow for example..
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Cows, Pigs, Chickens. I don't discriminate. I eat them all.
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