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At about 3:50 they bring out the chains and start the self-flagellation and it all gets very bloody!




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I can't get it to embed. Anyone?

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And then there is this in Britain






Are there no child protection laws to prevent this?
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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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Re: Ashura In Atlanta, GA, USA 11.24.2012 - Video - Muslims beating themselves bloody
Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
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o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
 Quoting: Bluebird


o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
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Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Re: Ashura In Atlanta, GA, USA 11.24.2012 - Video - Muslims beating themselves bloody
And apparently it's an annual thing to cut their children bloody as well because here it is about a year ago in this thread.

Thread: Children Mutilated During Islamic Festival of Ashura (Graphic video)
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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
 Quoting: Bluebird


o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557583


Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Listen OP! The title of the thread is misleading. This is not what muslims do, this is what a tiny minority of Shia community does once a year to remind them of the suffering.

Besides, if you wana change the law and stop it, take it up with the authorities. I've been to Philippians and there's a group of Christians who practice exactly the same thing on the streets. They beat themselves up bloody.

Anyway, the point is, if you dont like it, do something about it. No use coming here and whining about it. I've traveled all over the muslim world and majority does NOT practice this form of religion.
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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
 Quoting: Bluebird


o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557583


Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
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No... that's not what I was saying and going to jail for spanking a child is bullshit.

I wish parents had the free ability to raise their children how they would like without having people complain about it or throwing them in jail. There are always going to be cultural differences that me and you will not understand or think is barbaric. However, they are not hurting you... so why care? Democratic societies that are persuaded that one way of living life is the wrong way are a Nazi society waiting to happen.

Welcome to Nazi America.
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I don't think one group should be above the law and allowed to do things to children that others would be arrested in a heartbeat for doing.

That's the path to complete destruction of the fabric of society and accepted social contract.

No other group is allowed to do what they please in this manner because it is their "culture" or any other reason.

It's wrong to inflict this kind of pain on children and pretty stupid of the adults doing it to themselves.

I did have a couple of friends who volunteered to go and help them with the whipping themselves bloody, however, lol.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557583


I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
 Quoting: Bluebird


o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557583


Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
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That is completely acceptable now. Considering there is a radical muslim in the white house bent on putting hundreds of millions of these people in the house beside yours.

Fun part is about to come.

When he gives the order, like he planned and is documented in saying he would, overthrow the united states and institute sharia law.

Thank a local liberal today :)
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I don't think one group should be above the law and allowed to do things to children that others would be arrested in a heartbeat for doing.

That's the path to complete destruction of the fabric of society and accepted social contract.

No other group is allowed to do what they please in this manner because it is their "culture" or any other reason.

It's wrong to inflict this kind of pain on children and pretty stupid of the adults doing it to themselves.

I did have a couple of friends who volunteered to go and help them with the whipping themselves bloody, however, lol.
 Quoting: Bluebird


The law is the only thing that is suppose to be followed in America. Not what the majority beg for. This is the advantage of a republic over a democracy.

The issue is some how we have made ourselves into a democratic society... which is a ticking time bomb itself. We were meant to be a republic. A society that only follows the law. Since adopting democracy we have created tons and tons of liberty conflicting laws. Do I think anyone should be above the law? Hell no... do I think the law has been perverted to invade on people's right to carry out their culture? Yes.

So, I typically advocate freedom of religion, regardless of what the current court systems rule. If they were splitting heads open just to split some heads open, I would be right there with you, but this is definetly a cultural thing.

btw... this doesn't look like downtown ATL. What city was this actually in? I live in the suburbs.
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Blue Bird, are you here in Atlanta as well??? I am !

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Blue Bird, are you here in Atlanta as well??? I am !

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No, I'm near Huntsville, AL. Someone in Atlanta sent this to me. He's the one who volunteered to go help with the beating bloody part. Heh heh.
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And then there is this in Britain






Are there no child protection laws to prevent this?
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Can't be a good muslim and a good American. This is against our laws.
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I don't think one group should be above the law and allowed to do things to children that others would be arrested in a heartbeat for doing.

That's the path to complete destruction of the fabric of society and accepted social contract.

No other group is allowed to do what they please in this manner because it is their "culture" or any other reason.

It's wrong to inflict this kind of pain on children and pretty stupid of the adults doing it to themselves.

I did have a couple of friends who volunteered to go and help them with the whipping themselves bloody, however, lol.
 Quoting: Bluebird


The law is the only thing that is suppose to be followed in America. Not what the majority beg for. This is the advantage of a republic over a democracy.

The issue is some how we have made ourselves into a democratic society... which is a ticking time bomb itself. We were meant to be a republic. A society that only follows the law. Since adopting democracy we have created tons and tons of liberty conflicting laws. Do I think anyone should be above the law? Hell no... do I think the law has been perverted to invade on people's right to carry out their culture? Yes.

So, I typically advocate freedom of religion, regardless of what the current court systems rule. If they were splitting heads open just to split some heads open, I would be right there with you, but this is definetly a cultural thing.

btw... this doesn't look like downtown ATL. What city was this actually in? I live in the suburbs.
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Here's the actual link I was sent. All it says that I see is Atlanta and yes that can over a lot of territory.


[link to creepingsharia.wordpress.com]
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Dang, well this explains why all the convenience stores have been so short staffed for the last week.
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Again, if you have a problem, change the law. Go enter politics. Sitting here and whining about something is not gonna do it.

If this were against the law in America these folks would have been arrested already. But looks like its not. So then go help create this law.

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No need to send more troops guys. They are taking care of it themselves.
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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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Again, if you have a problem, change the law. Go enter politics. Sitting here and whining about something is not gonna do it.

If this were against the law in America these folks would have been arrested already. But looks like its not. So then go help create this law.

yoda
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There are already plenty of laws against child abuse like the slashing of the scalp. And I would also think it in violation of health regs to have uncontained human blood all over the place like that, possibly being slung from the chains or whatever. You can't even throw away a used syringe without it being labeled bio-hazard.

So it's not a question of law but the lack of desire to enforce them that seems to be the problem.

I don't like a two tiered society--those who have to obey the laws and those who only obey the ones they want to obey.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Obama still in charge?.. say no more
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Got this from another member who isn't on right now-
[link to israelsurvivalupdates.com]

Holy crap. Several vids in this one. Did you know they cut off all cell service to Pakistan during Ashura?!


"It Can't Happen Here"
They didn’t shut down the networks nationwide to prevent attacks.

They shut down the networks so they could be left alone.

Left alone to………

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You already know about the ‘holiday’ and ‘festival’ of Ashoura.

It’s very ‘colorful’ to say the least.

Thing is, the only color seen is red.

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Warning

The following videos and photos are real.

The following videos and photos are extremely graphic.

The following videos and photos involve young children being harmed.

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This is Islam:


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Re: Ashura In Atlanta, GA, USA 11.24.2012 - Video - Muslims beating themselves bloody
Again, if you have a problem, change the law. Go enter politics. Sitting here and whining about something is not gonna do it.

If this were against the law in America these folks would have been arrested already. But looks like its not. So then go help create this law.

yoda
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There are already plenty of laws against child abuse like the slashing of the scalp. And I would also think it in violation of health regs to have uncontained human blood all over the place like that, possibly being slung from the chains or whatever. You can't even throw away a used syringe without it being labeled bio-hazard.

So it's not a question of law but the lack of desire to enforce them that seems to be the problem.

I don't like a two tiered society--those who have to obey the laws and those who only obey the ones they want to obey.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Well then have you called the police and asked them why they havent arrested or atleast stopped these folks?

Have you called your senator? mayor? anybody?

Have you made a petition on whitehouse website to STOP this madness?

Exactly what have you done to stop it. Or is it that you're looking at someone else to do all the hard work?

Cause these things entered the country when people like you didnt do anything. Never took any actions.

Let them do this in Canada and you'll see my face on every tv network. So far I have not seen anyone beat themselves bloody or their kids. But if they try it, we wont rest until they're behind bars or stop this madness.

yoda
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I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
 Quoting: Bluebird


o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557583


Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Listen OP! The title of the thread is misleading. This is not what muslims do, this is what a tiny minority of Shia community does once a year to remind them of the suffering.

Besides, if you wana change the law and stop it, take it up with the authorities. I've been to Philippians and there's a group of Christians who practice exactly the same thing on the streets. They beat themselves up bloody.

Anyway, the point is, if you dont like it, do something about it. No use coming here and whining about it. I've traveled all over the muslim world and majority does NOT practice this form of religion.
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READ. Do you people not know what atonement is? Do you not know that Christians do this as well?
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Lol at least they arn't hurting anyone but themselves.

Takes a lot of devotion to hurt yourself like that and take pride in it.
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That's insane! Devotion? Pride?.. Get the fuck out of my country! rant
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I'd have to say those babies in the second vid are hurting someone other than themselves.
 Quoting: Bluebird


o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557583


Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Listen OP! The title of the thread is misleading. This is not what muslims do, this is what a tiny minority of Shia community does once a year to remind them of the suffering.

Besides, if you wana change the law and stop it, take it up with the authorities. I've been to Philippians and there's a group of Christians who practice exactly the same thing on the streets. They beat themselves up bloody.

Anyway, the point is, if you dont like it, do something about it. No use coming here and whining about it. I've traveled all over the muslim world and majority does NOT practice this form of religion.
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i think we should start deporting muslim butts whether they practice this or not. islam does not fit in the free western world.
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Again, if you have a problem, change the law. Go enter politics. Sitting here and whining about something is not gonna do it.

If this were against the law in America these folks would have been arrested already. But looks like its not. So then go help create this law.

yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


There are already plenty of laws against child abuse like the slashing of the scalp. And I would also think it in violation of health regs to have uncontained human blood all over the place like that, possibly being slung from the chains or whatever. You can't even throw away a used syringe without it being labeled bio-hazard.

So it's not a question of law but the lack of desire to enforce them that seems to be the problem.

I don't like a two tiered society--those who have to obey the laws and those who only obey the ones they want to obey.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Well then have you called the police and asked them why they havent arrested or atleast stopped these folks?

Have you called your senator? mayor? anybody?

Have you made a petition on whitehouse website to STOP this madness?

Exactly what have you done to stop it. Or is it that you're looking at someone else to do all the hard work?

Cause these things entered the country when people like you didnt do anything. Never took any actions.

Let them do this in Canada and you'll see my face on every tv network. So far I have not seen anyone beat themselves bloody or their kids. But if they try it, we wont rest until they're behind bars or stop this madness.

yoda
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This video doesn't actually show them doing it but rather the flag they have all soaked in their blood from the practice. It's anywhere there are Shia mulims. Google it and you will see it's in all major cities in Canada same as here.


One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy