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Yea I'll never understand why the Muslims literally get away with murder and the rest of the world has to bend over backwards to not offend them.I say fuck um and their stone age mentality.
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o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
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Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
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Listen OP! The title of the thread is misleading. This is not what muslims do, this is what a tiny minority of Shia community does once a year to remind them of the suffering.

Besides, if you wana change the law and stop it, take it up with the authorities. I've been to Philippians and there's a group of Christians who practice exactly the same thing on the streets. They beat themselves up bloody.

Anyway, the point is, if you dont like it, do something about it. No use coming here and whining about it. I've traveled all over the muslim world and majority does NOT practice this form of religion.
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i think we should start deporting muslim butts whether they practice this or not. islam does not fit in the free western world.
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Actually flagellation was carried out firstly by Christians and in fact JEWS! So kick yourself back to Israel. My Dual citizen. Opus Dei still perform this self purging act.(CATHOLIC) !
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READ. Do you people not know what atonement is? Do you not know that Christians do this as well?
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Maybe long ago and far away but not in today's downtown Atlanta, they don't.

I've also heard of some in the Philippines who crucify themselves for Easter.

That also would not be allowed nor accepted today in major U. S. cities.
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i think we should start deporting muslim butts whether they practice this or not. islam does not fit in the free western world.
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That's insane! Devotion? Pride?.. Get the fuck out of my country! rant
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Yea I'll never understand why the Muslims literally get away with murder and the rest of the world has to bend over backwards to not offend them.I say fuck um and their stone age mentality.
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Obviously the freedom of religion exists no more and the age of generalization has begun. Democracy reigns and the destruction shall begin.

Law matters no more. Only that people's feelings are acted upon. It does not matter what it does to society... it only matters that you feel better. Egoism dictates action.
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nuke the tards
the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the

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television

when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision

tell lie vision
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Actually flagellation was carried out firstly by Christians and in fact JEWS! So kick yourself back to Israel. My Dual citizen. Opus Dei still perform this self purging act.(CATHOLIC) !
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And Romans used to feed Christians to the lions, too.

Just another of those things civilization has eliminated.


And I don't recall any Christian practice of slashing a baby's scalp open and bleeding like that. Ever.
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When our forefathers talked about freedom of religion this isn't what they had in mind.
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o come on... it's a cultural thing. Like drowning your baby in a river to renew their soul.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23557583


Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Listen OP! The title of the thread is misleading. This is not what muslims do, this is what a tiny minority of Shia community does once a year to remind them of the suffering.

Besides, if you wana change the law and stop it, take it up with the authorities. I've been to Philippians and there's a group of Christians who practice exactly the same thing on the streets. They beat themselves up bloody.

Anyway, the point is, if you dont like it, do something about it. No use coming here and whining about it. I've traveled all over the muslim world and majority does NOT practice this form of religion.
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READ. Do you people not know what atonement is? Do you not know that Christians do this as well?
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I know what atonement is and I know why the shia do this on ashura day. Its the OP who doesnt know and is freaked out over it.
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I know what atonement is and I know why the shia do this on ashura day. Its the OP who doesn't know and is freaked out over it.
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I know what atonement is as well and these days it usually consists of some form of good deeds rather than self-mutilation or mutilating ones children.

And I have to wonder what those little babies could have ever done that they needed their scalps sliced open, some several times, and left bleeding like that.

Yeah, they probably have a lot to atone for at less than two years old?

Is that what you are suggesting?
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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This is sick. If I seen something like that going on in my neighborhood I would get some Good Ole Boys together and start target practice.
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Sick people. Those who insist that this religion and it's followers should be respected, are deranged and full of shit.
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Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Listen OP! The title of the thread is misleading. This is not what muslims do, this is what a tiny minority of Shia community does once a year to remind them of the suffering.

Besides, if you wana change the law and stop it, take it up with the authorities. I've been to Philippians and there's a group of Christians who practice exactly the same thing on the streets. They beat themselves up bloody.

Anyway, the point is, if you dont like it, do something about it. No use coming here and whining about it. I've traveled all over the muslim world and majority does NOT practice this form of religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


i think we should start deporting muslim butts whether they practice this or not. islam does not fit in the free western world.
 Quoting: davvi


Actually flagellation was carried out firstly by Christians and in fact JEWS! So kick yourself back to Israel. My Dual citizen. Opus Dei still perform this self purging act.(CATHOLIC) !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28567749


i don't care who did it first, but i am concerned who does it last. we have moved into this century, no reason to drag the trash with us.
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Your video is previewing so I hope it now works.

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This is very dangerous stuff, mind control to the point of self inflicted wounds...bad idea. the music is used for euphoria and lower vibration control.
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At about 3:50 they bring out the chains and start the self-flagellation and it all gets very bloody!



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They are lost and ignorant people.
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:lulz: muzzies.
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At about 3:50 they bring out the chains and start the self-flagellation and it all gets very bloody!



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Can we participate? I'l beat the shit out of them for them...no charge ; )
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Yet if a non-muslim parent so much as spanks their child, they can face having the child removed or even jail while slashing their scalps open is OK?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Listen OP! The title of the thread is misleading. This is not what muslims do, this is what a tiny minority of Shia community does once a year to remind them of the suffering.

Besides, if you wana change the law and stop it, take it up with the authorities. I've been to Philippians and there's a group of Christians who practice exactly the same thing on the streets. They beat themselves up bloody.

Anyway, the point is, if you dont like it, do something about it. No use coming here and whining about it. I've traveled all over the muslim world and majority does NOT practice this form of religion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


i think we should start deporting muslim butts whether they practice this or not. islam does not fit in the free western world.
 Quoting: davvi


Actually flagellation was carried out firstly by Christians and in fact JEWS! So kick yourself back to Israel. My Dual citizen. Opus Dei still perform this self purging act.(CATHOLIC) !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28567749


Oh are we going back indefinitely in time? In that case? Well, then your ancestors used to fling shit like monkeys do...you know tens of thousands of years ago. And NO, it didnot begin with Christians...it began with Babolynians.
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Educate yourselves people.

1) 99% don't practice Ashura this way, in most countries they just fast the day and give presents to children. Only a branch of Chiism does.

2) Inflicting oneself suffering has always been a rite of devotion in various sects througout history. Here is an example of what is done by Christians in Philippine :

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I don't think one group should be above the law and allowed to do things to children that others would be arrested in a heartbeat for doing.

That's the path to complete destruction of the fabric of society and accepted social contract.

No other group is allowed to do what they please in this manner because it is their "culture" or any other reason.

It's wrong to inflict this kind of pain on children and pretty stupid of the adults doing it to themselves.

I did have a couple of friends who volunteered to go and help them with the whipping themselves bloody, however, lol.
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If you want to save children from physical harm done in the name of religion then oppse male infant circumcision. It is a worse harm than the Ashura festivities. As gruesome as it looks, cuts on the head spill a cascade of capillary blood that looks horrible but causes no signifigant blood loss. The self flagellation leaves small permanent scars. None of the ones I've seen look like serious wounds.

Circumcision, on the other hand, robs a boy of more than half the nerve endings of his penis. Some men have lifelong pain with erection and dissatisfaction with sex.

Circumcision done to infants causes trauma, sometimes an inability to bond with mother. Video tapes of infants before and after circumcision show bright eyed alert babies before and listless dissociated babies after. Mothers report their circumcised babies never regained their pre-circumcision alertness.

Its a terrible thing to do to baby boys. That's where you should start your crusade against religious abuse of children. It should not be allowed.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

At about 3:50 they bring out the chains and start the self-flagellation and it all gets very bloody!



 Quoting: Bluebird


Shia Muslims do it, Sunnis don't.
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I don't think one group should be above the law and allowed to do things to children that others would be arrested in a heartbeat for doing.

That's the path to complete destruction of the fabric of society and accepted social contract.

No other group is allowed to do what they please in this manner because it is their "culture" or any other reason.

It's wrong to inflict this kind of pain on children and pretty stupid of the adults doing it to themselves.

I did have a couple of friends who volunteered to go and help them with the whipping themselves bloody, however, lol.
 Quoting: Bluebird


If you want to save children from physical harm done in the name of religion then opposite male infant circumcision. It is a worse harm than the Ashura festivities. As gruesome as it looks, cuts on the head spill a cascade of capillary blood that looks horrible but causes no significant blood loss. The self flagellation leaves small permanent scars. None of the ones I've seen look like serious wounds.

Circumcision, on the other hand, robs a boy of more than half the nerve endings of his penis. Some men have lifelong pain with erection and dissatisfaction with sex.

Circumcision done to infants causes trauma, sometimes an inability to bond with mother. Video tapes of infants before and after circumcision show bright eyed alert babies before and listless dissociated babies after. Mothers report their circumcised babies never regained their pre-circumcision alertness.

Its a terrible thing to do to baby boys. That's where you should start your crusade against religious abuse of children. It should not be allowed.
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All three of my now adult sons say they are glad they are circumcised and it has nothing to do with religion but science and cleanliness and health. And one of them has his MD.

You do know that this often has to be performed as an adult and is much more traumatic then.

So I only have my own sons' experience to base an opinion on and they say they will have their own children circumcised.
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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[link to www.youtube.com]

At about 3:50 they bring out the chains and start the self-flagellation and it all gets very bloody!



 Quoting: Bluebird


Reminds me of Elijah and his challenge to the priests of Baal & Asherah (Funny how Asherah is so close to Ashura) to call fire down form heaven.

When the heathen priests called to their 'god' they: And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them

1Kings 18
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I can't get it to embed. Anyone?

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As a resident of Atlanta, I often find myself wondering where the hell do I live? This just pushed me further into confusion. I no longer recognize this city. It has become something "else".
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Already in the United states, just hidden inside the Mosques for now.

Inside a Chicago Mosque



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READ. Do you people not know what atonement is? Do you not know that Christians do this as well?
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Maybe long ago and far away but not in today's downtown Atlanta, they don't.

I've also heard of some in the Philippines who crucify themselves for Easter.

That also would not be allowed nor accepted today in major U. S. cities.
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I live in Atlanta. That wasn't in "downtown" Atlanta.

It was obviously at some church, and a private event.



Also, as others have mentioned, the people who do this are a specific, minority of extremists that align within the Muslim religion.


I've seen MANY christian cults, who do CRAZY things, but nobody makes a thread about it here, denouncing all christians.
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READ. Do you people not know what atonement is? Do you not know that Christians do this as well?
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Maybe long ago and far away but not in today's downtown Atlanta, they don't.

I've also heard of some in the Philippines who crucify themselves for Easter.

That also would not be allowed nor accepted today in major U. S. cities.
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I live in Atlanta. That wasn't in "downtown" Atlanta.

It was obviously at some church, and a private event.



Also, as others have mentioned, the people who do this are a specific, minority of extremists that align within the Muslim religion.


I've seen MANY christian cults, who do CRAZY things, but nobody makes a thread about it here, denouncing all christians.
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Your right.

A Pentecostal snake handler died just this year doing wackadoodle things.
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Never even made the local news bet the neighbors would be shocked? Looks like an army of flagellaters in Atlanta, wonder what other activities they into?
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READ. Do you people not know what atonement is? Do you not know that Christians do this as well?
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Maybe long ago and far away but not in today's downtown Atlanta, they don't.

I've also heard of some in the Philippines who crucify themselves for Easter.

That also would not be allowed nor accepted today in major U. S. cities.
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I live in Atlanta. That wasn't in "downtown" Atlanta.

It was obviously at some church, and a private event.



Also, as others have mentioned, the people who do this are a specific, minority of extremists that align within the Muslim religion.


I've seen MANY christian cults, who do CRAZY things, but nobody makes a thread about it here, denouncing all christians.
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Your right.

A Pentecostal snake handler died just this year doing wackadoodle things.
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And no body made a thread denouncing all muslims about this either, just the ones doing this and in particular the ones slicing open the scalps of babies.

These are in every major city in the world and not isolated incidents such as snake handlers are.

But yeah, if I ran across something on the snake handler that was current, I would probably make a thread about that as well. But I never saw anything about one putting the snakes on a baby the way these crazy sh*ts are doing.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy

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