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Autism and car pollution ... Who knew

 
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Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
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Re: Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
 Quoting: PENG


Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
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Re: Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
 Quoting: PENG


Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Really? Interesting.
I've read your posts on vitamin d. I can't remember if I was deficient, but when my son had testing, I think he was but not by long numbers. He did have a carnitine defiency. (Sic). He has low muscle tone also. Drives me nuts trying to figure out what give him I need to look those tests up that they did. It just gets too confusing sometimes.
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Re: Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
 Quoting: PENG


Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Not entirely correct.
Vitamin D deficiency plays a contributory role in autism ONLY if they are genetically predisposed to it.
Vitamin D deficiency is not a CAUSE of autism.
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Re: Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
 Quoting: PENG


Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Really? Interesting.
I've read your posts on vitamin d. I can't remember if I was deficient, but when my son had testing, I think he was but not by long numbers. He did have a carnitine defiency. (Sic). He has low muscle tone also. Drives me nuts trying to figure out what give him I need to look those tests up that they did. It just gets too confusing sometimes.
 Quoting: PENG


What was his level? Which lab? LabCorp or Quest?

It should be within 80-100 ng/ml range which usually requires 2000 IU for every 25lbs of bodyweight.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

Keep it in mind that the recommendation for vitamin D is now 600 IU a day for adults. It used to be 200IU then 400IU. 600 IU won't even get you out of vitamin D deficiency. Why so low when the conventional treatment for vitamin D deficiency is one 50,000 IU pill a week for 2-3 months?

Magnesium is another one that most do not take enough.

Dr. Cannell from Vitamin D Council worked with autistic kids and vitamin D therapy seemed to help quite a bit as long as they do not get vitamin A in the form of retinol (sp?), beta-carotene only.

It will take years before it becomes 'official' unfortunately.
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Re: Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
 Quoting: PENG


Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Not entirely correct.
Vitamin D deficiency plays a contributory role in autism ONLY if they are genetically predisposed to it.
Vitamin D deficiency is not a CAUSE of autism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26329012


You got the other way around.
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Re: Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
 Quoting: PENG


Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Really? Interesting.
I've read your posts on vitamin d. I can't remember if I was deficient, but when my son had testing, I think he was but not by long numbers. He did have a carnitine defiency. (Sic). He has low muscle tone also. Drives me nuts trying to figure out what give him I need to look those tests up that they did. It just gets too confusing sometimes.
 Quoting: PENG


What was his level? Which lab? LabCorp or Quest?

It should be within 80-100 ng/ml range which usually requires 2000 IU for every 25lbs of bodyweight.

[link to www.vitamindcouncil.org]

Keep it in mind that the recommendation for vitamin D is now 600 IU a day for adults. It used to be 200IU then 400IU. 600 IU won't even get you out of vitamin D deficiency. Why so low when the conventional treatment for vitamin D deficiency is one 50,000 IU pill a week for 2-3 months?

Magnesium is another one that most do not take enough.

Dr. Cannell from Vitamin D Council worked with autistic kids and vitamin D therapy seemed to help quite a bit as long as they do not get vitamin A in the form of retinol (sp?), beta-carotene only.

It will take years before it becomes 'official' unfortunately.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Thanks for the info. I will pull up his papers tomorrow. Lots to go through. I'm not sure the lab, but Emory genetics was where he had testing. What you said below is true IMO because he has some mitochondria issues, but what the doctor said was that anyone who would get genetics testing done, their numbers would not be perfect, that we all would have numbers come back in the abnormal range. This wasn't much help to me.

I have a sour taste in my mouth with them though. Emory is considered the gold in genetics in the USA, yet at one point I was given the test results of another patient that said there was a liver issue. I was told to get an ultrasound due to this. I am the one who sat down with all the tests in front of me and saw the wrong patient. What a joke.

Do you know anything about carnitine defiency? Would that have anything to do with D? I believe he was predispose, probably during my pregnancy. That's a warm fuzzy feeling.
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Re: Autism and car pollution ... Who knew
Well, that doesn't work for us, as we don't live in a heavily polluted area. Now everything causes autism. huffy
 Quoting: PENG


Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Not entirely correct.
Vitamin D deficiency plays a contributory role in autism ONLY if they are genetically predisposed to it.
Vitamin D deficiency is not a CAUSE of autism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26329012


You got the other way around.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


No I didn't.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

CONCLUSION:

Vitamin D deficiency--either during pregnancy or early childhood--may be an environmental trigger for ASD in individuals genetically predisposed for the broad phenotype of autism. On the basis of the results of the present review, we argue for the recognition of this possibly important role of vitamin D in ASD, and for urgent research in the field.
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Well... not directly but more of contribution.

See, air pollution blocks UVB sunlight that is needed to manufacture vitamin D in the skin so you end up with vitamin D deficiency.

Ever wonder why autistic kids and their mothers have very low vitamin D level? It all starts in the womb and vitamin D is crucial for proper brain development.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Not entirely correct.
Vitamin D deficiency plays a contributory role in autism ONLY if they are genetically predisposed to it.
Vitamin D deficiency is not a CAUSE of autism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26329012


You got the other way around.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


No I didn't.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

CONCLUSION:

Vitamin D deficiency--either during pregnancy or early childhood--may be an environmental trigger for ASD in individuals genetically predisposed for the broad phenotype of autism. On the basis of the results of the present review, we argue for the recognition of this possibly important role of vitamin D in ASD, and for urgent research in the field.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3335794


I am missing something? It sounds like you are both saying the same thing. Vitamin D is a trigger for children predisposed?


And for the one star whomever did that... Nice. Shithead.
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