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My son is to smart for me. I need some help.

 
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My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
My oldest son (I have 5 children) is very smart, clever and witty.

My son is in a trade school for Carpentry, it is what makes him happy.

Since he was in elementary school, all of his math and science teachers who understood him have told him that he should continue and be in either field.

Being the oldest of 5 children, he has learned that if he wants to have a complete discussion, he needs to wait until all of the other children are either in bed asleep or gone. So, he saves things up and shares them in the same block of time. It can get a little overwhelming, but I love every minute of it.

We were discussing the grandfather paradox. Then he wanted to talk about an idea he had to create (He won't let me use this term when in discussion becuase it isn't free) free energy.

So I asked him why he doesn't go on in school and make the world a better place.

It came down to this. Mathematics. It is a flawed principle. It is not a pure language and expression and is still subject to interpretation. He doesn't like that so therefore anything more than basic expression would be contributing to this flawed language.

Then I asked him why he continued then to think and create things that envolve this flawed language. He looked at me and said when I do it, it is not flawed.

It is not easy to admit I didn't have any sage or inspiring words to get through to him. This is a child that in the 7th grade had no more use for his math teacher beacuse she couldn't understand how he could answer all of the questions correctly on an exam without using a calculator.

So I am happy if he is happy to stay in carpentry, I want him to be happy. But, there is this other part of him that needs an outlet.

How do I help him grow in that area?
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Sounds like you're doing fine. Leave him be...he'll "grow" on his own.
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You never should of made this post. He is going to become property of the government now. They are probably triangulating on your possition as we speak.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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Spike his drink with a good dose of LSD and he might have a breakthrough.
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Thank you for your responses, well, maybe not the LSD one. I could see where your coming from but, I'm his mommy.

I really hope he will grow.
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Thank you for your responses, well, maybe not the LSD one. I could see where your coming from but, I'm his mommy.

I really hope he will grow.
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In that case mushrooms or ayahuasca.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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You never should of made this post. He is going to become property of the government now. They are probably triangulating on your possition as we speak.
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Too late. He's already been recruited by DARPA banana2
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"Too" smart you mean....
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Thank you for your responses, well, maybe not the LSD one. I could see where your coming from but, I'm his mommy.

I really hope he will grow.
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In all honesty though, wouldn't you rather have it this way that the other extreme? Do you know how many kids now a days have 'learning disabilities'? Better he's where he's at than labeled 'low on the spectrum' where he'll be shuffled off..
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"Too" smart you mean....
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I saw the humor in that too ; )
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hide him, people from some agency are looking for this kind of special kids.
i advice u to delete this thread at once.
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hide him, people from some agency are looking for this kind of special kids.
i advice u to delete this thread at once.
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Thats what I was saying.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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11/27/2012 03:24 PM
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Show him this book:

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If he is into carpentry, then for him to expand his horizons he should find a girl that is as flat as a board and easy to screw....
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Carpentry you say? His name isn't Jesus by any chance, is it?
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It's hard for people to understand what a parent means when they say their child is too smart for them.

My five year old has an IQ of 140...which is subject to change at such a young age. I am not sure what to do with her. She doesn't want to be bothered with regular learning. Instead she bombards me with questions that a normal five year old wouldn't comprehend to even as about. My brother was also super intellegent...

The only advice I can give you is this. Let him lead as far as what he wants to do with his time and support him in this if it is safe, good for him and affordable for you. Nobody knows except him what will appease his need for knowledge. Continue to listen to him and learn to ask questions so he feels somewhat challenged.

But most of all, remember. He is still young and even though he is beyond his age in intelligence, he is not beyond his age in emotional capabilities. This is a big issue with kids with high IQs. They are way smarter than the average adult but can even sometimes be emotionally stunted, because they spent so much time in earlier childhood absorbing information, which sets them aside from other children. I would guess he preferred to do things alone as a smaller child, so therefore he did not have the environment needed to learn the emotional skills needed as he grows up. He may seem fine to you, but when put in an emotional situation, what does he do? Does he intellectualize the experience?

At five, my daughter avoids emotional stress like the plague. I can be trying to explain why she is too young to do something and she will just zone out and walk away while I am talking. She is not being facisious, she is literally zoning out to avoid confrontation.

Good luck with your son OP. Keep on a watchful eye on him but let him to find his way on his own.
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Thank you for the book. I asked him about it. He seems interested.

My writing skills do need improvement. You are correct, my bad.
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I'm sure he will be fine and so will you.......If anyone comes offering something great for letting him attend a very private school. Say no. Do not sign on the dotted line. hiding
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he will likely change his mind a few times between now and when he graduates

encourage him in any path he seems to want to explore - he will make the right choice in the end
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tell him to look up sacred geometry
all the best to you both!

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Ask him to build an Ark for the GLPers !
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tell him all forms of expression are potentially flawed. that shouldn't limit him. the folks who work in the quantum world have to develop their own expressions/equations, so it's just a matter of developing "vocabulary".
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My five year old has an IQ of 140...which is subject to change at such a young age.
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That means she is as smart as an average 7 year old. Surely you aren't feeling that a 7 year old is smarter than you, or else you are going to be in BIG TROUBLE in the future.
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Awesome web sites. Thank you.

No ark for you GLP'ers until he builds me one.

Check! No wonderful free educations. If they come knocking, I'll make him put on a foil cap.
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Does he understand differential/integral calculus, if he doesn't that will probably help.

Tell him to read about infinite geometric series, and the property of convergence on wiki. These are summations that anyone esp a 7th grader can play with. Power series can be constructed to represent any function or value, including irrational numbers, like pi. Ask him to explain how a series of summations can converge to a value like pi, that doesn't really converge to a certain value. That should break his mind a little bit and/or keep him busy at least for a little while.
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My five year old has an IQ of 140...which is subject to change at such a young age.
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That means she is as smart as an average 7 year old. Surely you aren't feeling that a 7 year old is smarter than you, or else you are going to be in BIG TROUBLE in the future.
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I suppose you have never been outwitted by your child. I am intellegent, but don't have an IQ like my child....125 for me. My child has the ability to see things for what they are worth. Her reasoning abilities are far higher than most children.

Also, "too smart for me", is a figure of speech used when one is not sure what to do next with their very smart child. It is not to be taken literally.
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Ask him to build an Ark for the GLPers !
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
My oldest son (I have 5 children) is very smart, clever and witty.

My son is in a trade school for Carpentry, it is what makes him happy.

Since he was in elementary school, all of his math and science teachers who understood him have told him that he should continue and be in either field.

Being the oldest of 5 children, he has learned that if he wants to have a complete discussion, he needs to wait until all of the other children are either in bed asleep or gone. So, he saves things up and shares them in the same block of time. It can get a little overwhelming, but I love every minute of it.

We were discussing the grandfather paradox. Then he wanted to talk about an idea he had to create (He won't let me use this term when in discussion becuase it isn't free) free energy.

So I asked him why he doesn't go on in school and make the world a better place.

It came down to this. Mathematics. It is a flawed principle. It is not a pure language and expression and is still subject to interpretation. He doesn't like that so therefore anything more than basic expression would be contributing to this flawed language.

Then I asked him why he continued then to think and create things that envolve this flawed language. He looked at me and said when I do it, it is not flawed.

It is not easy to admit I didn't have any sage or inspiring words to get through to him. This is a child that in the 7th grade had no more use for his math teacher beacuse she couldn't understand how he could answer all of the questions correctly on an exam without using a calculator.

So I am happy if he is happy to stay in carpentry, I want him to be happy. But, there is this other part of him that needs an outlet.

How do I help him grow in that area?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13076957


I wouldn't worry about it. He is young and sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. He will find his way if he is meant to do something else later or gets bored and needs a different outlet.

Opting out of advanced education for trade school is a smart choice in this economy.

hf
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Carpentry you say? His name isn't Jesus by any chance, is it?
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