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My son is to smart for me. I need some help.

 
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11/27/2012 04:11 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
My five year old has an IQ of 140...which is subject to change at such a young age.
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That means she is as smart as an average 7 year old. Surely you aren't feeling that a 7 year old is smarter than you, or else you are going to be in BIG TROUBLE in the future.
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I suppose you have never been outwitted by your child. I am intellegent, but don't have an IQ like my child....125 for me. My child has the ability to see things for what they are worth. Her reasoning abilities are far higher than most children.

Also, "too smart for me", is a figure of speech used when one is not sure what to do next with their very smart child. It is not to be taken literally.
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IQ is calculated by mental age compared to chronological age, multiplied by 100. So for your child:

IQ of 140 = 7 mental age divided by 5 real age.

For you (assuming you are 30 years old):

IQ of 125 = 37.5 mental age divided by 30 real age.

So there you go, you've got an extra 30.5 mental years over your child. Get a grip!
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11/27/2012 04:15 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
No, his name isn't Jesus.

I really appriciate all of the things that I can expose him to. Maybe one with get his attention.

I am very proud of him for being a senior in High school and he has chosen a field that for the time being makes him happy and he can make a living with. That is more than a lot of people these days.

One of the reasons I chose to post my question here is the diverse group of people who have yet to stop questioning everything. Oh, and the jokes. Life without a sense of humor, sucks.
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11/27/2012 04:19 PM

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He is right about one thing.. Earth mathematics and physics are flawed. We do not understand or know how things really work. He is probably an 'Indigo". One who still understands/ retains some of hie previous knowledge before he hit earth.

Love him and hang on. He is probably too advanced for his math teachers. These days, that is not hard.Especially if they are social studies teachers having to teach math and do not understand the concepts themselves.

Let him read about Ed Leedskalnin and Coral castle and let him go from there.

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11/27/2012 04:24 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
I think he is building wood dildoes in his carpentry classes.

That is why he is so happy!
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11/27/2012 04:24 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
"It came down to this. Mathematics. It is a flawed principle. It is not a pure language and expression and is still subject to interpretation. He doesn't like that so therefore anything more than basic expression would be contributing to this flawed language.

Then I asked him why he continued then to think and create things that envolve this flawed language. He looked at me and said when I do it, it is not flawed."



Mathematics is far from a flawed principle, I would tend to think that is it your own misunderstanding or lack of knowledge of higher mathematics that confuses you.

As for carpentry, it's a valuable skill, as are the trades, but with your kid's talents he is wasting his time and his mind. If he's content making $10 an hour in seasonal employment, all the more power to him, but he'll never live up to his potential.
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I think he is building wood dildoes in his carpentry classes.

That is why he is so happy!
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Perma-smile!
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11/27/2012 04:32 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
Your child could very well be the rainmaker. In other words, you should kill him.
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11/27/2012 04:33 PM
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well, maybe not the LSD one.
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Actually he/she's right - I sucked at math till I dropped acid. It allowed me to physically "see" numerical relationships. Several medical studies showed the overall effects of LSD included an improvement in math skills.
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I am well aware of the benifits of LSD.

I, myself excelled in Statistics, Chemistry, Microbiology and pharmocology. I was one of the few people at my college who really wanted an education.
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11/27/2012 04:50 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
I think he is building wood dildoes in his carpentry classes.

That is why he is so happy!
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Perma-smile!
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Dude, he's 8 you sick phuck.
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11/27/2012 04:58 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
Get him a guitar.
He could be gifted in that area as well.
It would allow him to be creative.
Works for my son.
Same kind of issues with scholastics.
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11/27/2012 05:01 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
My oldest son (I have 5 children) is very smart, clever and witty.

My son is in a trade school for Carpentry, it is what makes him happy.

Since he was in elementary school, all of his math and science teachers who understood him have told him that he should continue and be in either field.

Being the oldest of 5 children, he has learned that if he wants to have a complete discussion, he needs to wait until all of the other children are either in bed asleep or gone. So, he saves things up and shares them in the same block of time. It can get a little overwhelming, but I love every minute of it.

We were discussing the grandfather paradox. Then he wanted to talk about an idea he had to create (He won't let me use this term when in discussion becuase it isn't free) free energy.

So I asked him why he doesn't go on in school and make the world a better place.

It came down to this. Mathematics. It is a flawed principle. It is not a pure language and expression and is still subject to interpretation. He doesn't like that so therefore anything more than basic expression would be contributing to this flawed language.

Then I asked him why he continued then to think and create things that envolve this flawed language. He looked at me and said when I do it, it is not flawed.

It is not easy to admit I didn't have any sage or inspiring words to get through to him. This is a child that in the 7th grade had no more use for his math teacher beacuse she couldn't understand how he could answer all of the questions correctly on an exam without using a calculator.

So I am happy if he is happy to stay in carpentry, I want him to be happy. But, there is this other part of him that needs an outlet.

How do I help him grow in that area?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13076957


Get him this book...
[link to www.amazon.com]

You will also need to get him a computer with Linux on it. That is not too hard - "Linux Mint" or Ubuntu should work for him. Ubuntu Linux can be downloaded (for free) and ran off either a DVD (that you burn) or a USB drive (about $10 bucks).

Yes, he will become a nerd...but, eventually he should become a rich nerd!
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11/27/2012 05:03 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
You never should of made this post. He is going to become property of the government now. They are probably triangulating on your possition as we speak.
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11/27/2012 05:05 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
You never should of made this post. He is going to become property of the government now. They are probably triangulating on your possition as we speak.
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Sad but true
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11/27/2012 06:40 PM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
My oldest son (I have 5 children) is very smart, clever and witty.

My son is in a trade school for Carpentry, it is what makes him happy.

Since he was in elementary school, all of his math and science teachers who understood him have told him that he should continue and be in either field.

Being the oldest of 5 children, he has learned that if he wants to have a complete discussion, he needs to wait until all of the other children are either in bed asleep or gone. So, he saves things up and shares them in the same block of time. It can get a little overwhelming, but I love every minute of it.

We were discussing the grandfather paradox. Then he wanted to talk about an idea he had to create (He won't let me use this term when in discussion becuase it isn't free) free energy.

So I asked him why he doesn't go on in school and make the world a better place.

It came down to this. Mathematics. It is a flawed principle. It is not a pure language and expression and is still subject to interpretation. He doesn't like that so therefore anything more than basic expression would be contributing to this flawed language.

Then I asked him why he continued then to think and create things that envolve this flawed language. He looked at me and said when I do it, it is not flawed.

It is not easy to admit I didn't have any sage or inspiring words to get through to him. This is a child that in the 7th grade had no more use for his math teacher beacuse she couldn't understand how he could answer all of the questions correctly on an exam without using a calculator.

So I am happy if he is happy to stay in carpentry, I want him to be happy. But, there is this other part of him that needs an outlet.

How do I help him grow in that area?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13076957


LoL free energy.

But let him write down why the "semantics" of math are essentially flawed and see if you can get a university grade professor to at least read it and ask him to give a short review of it (whether it is actually genius or full retard mode (the difference can be small at times ^^)). I'm sure that you can find some email addies from some math professors from a university near you (you might have to try several though, they don't all got seas of time).
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11/28/2012 09:21 AM
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
Thank you all for your help. I have some new and wonderful things to introduce to him. I'm hoping that at least one of these ideas will sent that spark off.
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too not to
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Math is flawed? WTH kind of bsflag is this? What has your son actually done that proves this vast intelligence of his? Instead of being critical he should write a paper that actually advances human knowledge.
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11/28/2012 11:29 AM
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Ok. BTW, I'm not going into to much of his thinking as for good reason.

But here is part of his explanation that he gave to his 10 year old brother. It is a very basic explanation. Believe me he has gone much further into it.

5-3(10-5)

There are 2 very different answers

Both are correct.

The language that we currently use to express math equations is flawed.

I am really not looking for a debate on how or if mathmatical expression is flawed.

I started this thread looking for a way to help him find an outlet for this part of his talents.
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Re: My son is to smart for me. I need some help.
My oldest son (I have 5 children) is very smart, clever and witty.

My son is in a trade school for Carpentry, it is what makes him happy.

Since he was in elementary school, all of his math and science teachers who understood him have told him that he should continue and be in either field.

Being the oldest of 5 children, he has learned that if he wants to have a complete discussion, he needs to wait until all of the other children are either in bed asleep or gone. So, he saves things up and shares them in the same block of time. It can get a little overwhelming, but I love every minute of it.

We were discussing the grandfather paradox. Then he wanted to talk about an idea he had to create (He won't let me use this term when in discussion becuase it isn't free) free energy.

So I asked him why he doesn't go on in school and make the world a better place.

It came down to this. Mathematics. It is a flawed principle. It is not a pure language and expression and is still subject to interpretation. He doesn't like that so therefore anything more than basic expression would be contributing to this flawed language.

Then I asked him why he continued then to think and create things that envolve this flawed language. He looked at me and said when I do it, it is not flawed.

It is not easy to admit I didn't have any sage or inspiring words to get through to him. This is a child that in the 7th grade had no more use for his math teacher beacuse she couldn't understand how he could answer all of the questions correctly on an exam without using a calculator.

So I am happy if he is happy to stay in carpentry, I want him to be happy. But, there is this other part of him that needs an outlet.

How do I help him grow in that area?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13076957



OP, one of the brightest guys in MENSA is a shipyard welder. Trades people make a good living, often work on their own, and are often responsible for inventions and innovations that leave PHDs in the dust.

I have a BS Chemistry and multiple trade skills. I had the option to pursue a PHD and dropped out of Osteopathic Medical School (I was passing and before anyone spikes up MCAT VR 14, Bio Sci 10, Physical Sci 11 so MD was well within my grasp).

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