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Why does everyone have to make spiritual ascension so difficult? It is so simple even a small child can do it!

 
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I like your attitude OP

simplicity is really quite sacred
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Exactly. That's a good way to put it. Thank you and I agree.
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All great wisdom can be understood by all. Not just a few.
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"Why does everyone have to make spiritual ascension so difficult?"

Because everyone is bombarded with spiritual forces which are greater them themselves OP:

lies
deception
pain
suffering
loss
hatred
wickedness
hopelessness
helplessness
abandonment
loneliness
...add you flavor here

These make a man weary. These bring a soul down. These draw a man away...

These make it difficult OP.

peace,
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"Why does everyone have to make spiritual ascension so difficult?"

Because everyone is bombarded with spiritual forces which are greater them themselves OP:

lies
deception
pain
suffering
loss
hatred
wickedness
hopelessness
helplessness
abandonment
loneliness
...add you flavor here

These make a man weary. These bring a soul down. These draw a man away...

These make it difficult OP.

peace,
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I know better than many how difficult this labyrinth called reality can be. However, that doesn't mean that we need to make it more difficult than it needs to be. The true path is beautifully simple and easy for all to follow if they are willing to let go of their fears and to live with love in their heart.

Just because the path is difficult does not mean that it is complicated for all to understand.

Peace
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"Why does everyone have to make spiritual ascension so difficult?"

Because everyone is bombarded with spiritual forces which are greater them themselves OP:

lies
deception
pain
suffering
loss
hatred
wickedness
hopelessness
helplessness
abandonment
loneliness
...add you flavor here

These make a man weary. These bring a soul down. These draw a man away...

These make it difficult OP.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


I know better than many how difficult this labyrinth called reality can be. However, that doesn't mean that we need to make it more difficult than it needs to be. The true path is beautifully simple and easy for all to follow if they are willing to let go of their fears and to live with love in their heart.

Just because the path is difficult does not mean that it is complicated for all to understand.

Peace
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The good news is that God does not ask us to carry these burdens ourselves.

For those who have handed them over, that is indeed good news OP.

peace,
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"Why does everyone have to make spiritual ascension so difficult?"

Because everyone is bombarded with spiritual forces which are greater them themselves OP:

lies
deception
pain
suffering
loss
hatred
wickedness
hopelessness
helplessness
abandonment
loneliness
...add you flavor here

These make a man weary. These bring a soul down. These draw a man away...

These make it difficult OP.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


I know better than many how difficult this labyrinth called reality can be. However, that doesn't mean that we need to make it more difficult than it needs to be. The true path is beautifully simple and easy for all to follow if they are willing to let go of their fears and to live with love in their heart.

Just because the path is difficult does not mean that it is complicated for all to understand.

Peace
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The good news is that God does not ask us to carry these burdens ourselves.

For those who have handed them over, that is indeed good news OP.

peace,
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Yes it is.
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When one understands that that which animates these bio units (bodies) is so much bigger than all the things you mentioned in your post below..one realises that which is perceived as impossible is just our flesh suit speaking (ego)

Its like a video game. Through the games programming, we are able to activate our chosen characters. The more familiar we become with the game, the more we are able to utilise our character to operate within the games parameters. As we learn we move to higher and higher levels in said game. Those levels were always there---they just couldn't be utilised or accessed until we became familiar with the game and various aspects hidden within it.

Please do not buy into defeat. OP just gave you the greatest of all "cheat codes" in existence. (Gamers will know what I'm eluding to)
Take the code and play this game called life,..you will be amazed at the levels that open up to you.

"Why does everyone have to make spiritual ascension so difficult?"

Because everyone is bombarded with spiritual forces which are greater them themselves OP:

lies
deception
pain
suffering
loss
hatred
wickedness
hopelessness
helplessness
abandonment
loneliness
...add you flavor here

These make a man weary. These bring a soul down. These draw a man away...

These make it difficult OP.

peace,
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When one understands that that which animates these bio units (bodies) is so much bigger than all the things you mentioned in your post below..one realises that which is perceived as impossible is just our flesh suit speaking (ego)

Its like a video game. Through the games programming, we are able to activate our chosen characters. The more familiar we become with the game, the more we are able to utilise our character to operate within the games parameters. As we learn we move to higher and higher levels in said game. Those levels were always there---they just couldn't be utilised or accessed until we became familiar with the game and various aspects hidden within it.

Please do not buy into defeat. OP just gave you the greatest of all "cheat codes" in existence. (Gamers will know what I'm eluding to)

Take the code and play this game called life,..you will be amazed at the levels that open up to you.



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Yes. You have everything you need already within you. Use it!

Peace.
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For anyone still following this thread, let me give you one additional bit of truth. You have ALWAYS been an advanced ascended being! You have simply forgotten that you are!

That is why you have everything you need within you. You just need to remember what a truly powerful being you really are...
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To be honest. I doubt that most people that call themselves "awakened" or "enlightened" even have a clue what they are talking about.

If you listen to them, they believe that they are somehow more able to understand our reality because they are in some strange way better than the so called "sheep" around them.

Maybe they aren't as advanced as they believe...
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Are you listening?
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"Love, and do what thou wilt."

-- Early church father Augustine of Hippo
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Well said OP. it is not a happy man who is thankful. It is a thankful man who is happy.
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"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law."

-- Aleister Crowley



Before you blast me for quoting Crowley, truth is truth wherever you may find it...
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In fact, a small child can understand what is required of us easier than most of us adults.

We are told that we have to meditate, astral travel, be "saved", have a guru, master or priest to teach us, be given some secret truth or knowledge, or raise our kundalini.

In truth, all that is required for us to become the advanced beings we are meant to be is to have love in our heart and to refuse to live in fear. That's all! That's it! Nothing else is necessary.

Sounds very simple I know, but this very simple truth is very difficult for most of us to achieve. We think it must be more complex than this. It's not.

Now, you can add all kinds of other "requirements", but they all boil down to just the simple truths of love and the lack of fear. Fear causes us to hate, get angry, cheat, steal lie and to be violent. Once we love each other unconditionally, everything else falls into place.

Stop listening to all this New Age and religious crap. You don't need to have anyone save you, but you. And you already have everything you need within you.

The key is realizing it and living it.

Your choice...
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Thank you for that message, OP. I agree with you 100%. Stay heart centered. hf
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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Well said OP. it is not a happy man who is thankful. It is a thankful man who is happy.
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Exactly! Thank you.
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Some are chosen to go the route of enlightenment, to be close to the Father, Mother, and The higher self.

When people have a Spiritual Awakening, it wasn't them that awoken the Spirit, It was the Father telling the Mother to awaken our sacred energy.

Once our Spiritual energy is awaken, it is like being possessed, it controls you. For instance longing to be close to the Father, the feeling on how powerful his love can feel. To be close to nature, the urge to dance with Mother, the loving feeling we get to all living things, etc

Some people have been chosen, as it was their destiny, when they are chosen it's nearly impossible to go back to their old ways of living.
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Thank you for that message, OP. I agree with you 100%. Stay heart centered. hf
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You too darlin'.
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Some are chosen to go the route of enlightenment, to be close to the Father, Mother, and The higher self.

When people have a Spiritual Awakening, it wasn't them that awoken the Spirit, It was the Father telling the Mother to awaken our sacred energy.

Once our Spiritual energy is awaken, it is like being possessed, it controls you. For instance longing to be close to the Father, the feeling on how powerful his love can feel. To be close to nature, the urge to dance with Mother, the loving feeling we get to all living things, etc

Some people have been chosen, as it was their destiny, when they are chosen it's nearly impossible to go back to their old ways of living.
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I'm sorry, but I respectfully and completely disagree. We are not guided, controlled possessed, weak and frail beings at the mercy of some god. WE are in control of our journey. Whether WE are ready to ascend or not is up to us. No one or no thing is controlling us unless we let it.

Please listen! This is the most important thing I could say to you. To believe that you are not in control of your reality/journey is the ultimate deception! That is how we are kept enslaved and lost.

Please think about this very carefully.

Peace
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In fact, a small child can understand what is required of us easier than most of us adults.

We are told that we have to meditate, astral travel, be "saved", have a guru, master or priest to teach us, be given some secret truth or knowledge, or raise our kundalini.

In truth, all that is required for us to become the advanced beings we are meant to be is to have love in our heart and to refuse to live in fear. That's all! That's it! Nothing else is necessary.

Sounds very simple I know, but this very simple truth is very difficult for most of us to achieve. We think it must be more complex than this. It's not.

Now, you can add all kinds of other "requirements", but they all boil down to just the simple truths of love and the lack of fear. Fear causes us to hate, get angry, cheat, steal lie and to be violent. Once we love each other unconditionally, everything else falls into place.

Stop listening to all this New Age and religious crap. You don't need to have anyone save you, but you. And you already have everything you need within you.

The key is realizing it and living it.

Your choice...
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You are preaching the New Age crap, though it's only one part of it. You are mentioning all the physical stuff that the New Agers do, all your missing is the inner stuff.

Whats so hard to sit down and close your eyes a few minutes a day? It brings relaxation to our lives, our brain is constantly working, so why not give it a break. It's not hard to ascend, just be true to your heart, it aint difficult.
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Our Universe is about perfection, balance and profound simplicity. All great truths are very simple and completely understandable by all.

Some examples are: children, platonic solids, energy, vortexes, vibration.
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You are preaching the New Age crap, though it's only one part of it. You are mentioning all the physical stuff that the New Agers do, all your missing is the inner stuff.

Whats so hard to sit down and close your eyes a few minutes a day? It brings relaxation to our lives, our brain is constantly working, so why not give it a break. It's not hard to ascend, just be true to your heart, it aint difficult.
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If you would stop being so angry and ugly, you would understand that that is what I said in the original post...

Stop trying to label others.
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Some are chosen to go the route of enlightenment, to be close to the Father, Mother, and The higher self.

When people have a Spiritual Awakening, it wasn't them that awoken the Spirit, It was the Father telling the Mother to awaken our sacred energy.

Once our Spiritual energy is awaken, it is like being possessed, it controls you. For instance longing to be close to the Father, the feeling on how powerful his love can feel. To be close to nature, the urge to dance with Mother, the loving feeling we get to all living things, etc

Some people have been chosen, as it was their destiny, when they are chosen it's nearly impossible to go back to their old ways of living.
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I'm sorry, but I respectfully and completely disagree. We are not guided, controlled possessed, weak and frail beings at the mercy of some god. WE are in control of our journey. Whether WE are ready to ascend or not is up to us. No one or no thing is controlling us unless we let it.

Please listen! This is the most important thing I could say to you. To believe that you are not in control of your reality/journey is the ultimate deception! That is how we are kept enslaved and lost.

Please think about this very carefully.

Peace
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Why would I go against something my tells me to do, I surrender to it. I am possessed by my heart, my higher being. Finding my self is like a little kid in a candy shop, as we have a lot of hidden talents waiting to be discovered. For instance, I discovered I am good in Tai Chi, dancing, and druming. It's discovering ourselves.
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You are preaching the New Age crap, though it's only one part of it. You are mentioning all the physical stuff that the New Agers do, all your missing is the inner stuff.

Whats so hard to sit down and close your eyes a few minutes a day? It brings relaxation to our lives, our brain is constantly working, so why not give it a break. It's not hard to ascend, just be true to your heart, it aint difficult.
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If you would stop being so angry and ugly, you would understand that that is what I said in the original post...

Stop trying to label others.
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Sorry If I gave you that impression, anger goes against my character, but still you are saying what the new agers would say. Just pointing it out.
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Some are chosen to go the route of enlightenment, to be close to the Father, Mother, and The higher self.

When people have a Spiritual Awakening, it wasn't them that awoken the Spirit, It was the Father telling the Mother to awaken our sacred energy.

Once our Spiritual energy is awaken, it is like being possessed, it controls you. For instance longing to be close to the Father, the feeling on how powerful his love can feel. To be close to nature, the urge to dance with Mother, the loving feeling we get to all living things, etc

Some people have been chosen, as it was their destiny, when they are chosen it's nearly impossible to go back to their old ways of living.
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I'm sorry, but I respectfully and completely disagree. We are not guided, controlled possessed, weak and frail beings at the mercy of some god. WE are in control of our journey. Whether WE are ready to ascend or not is up to us. No one or no thing is controlling us unless we let it.

Please listen! This is the most important thing I could say to you. To believe that you are not in control of your reality/journey is the ultimate deception! That is how we are kept enslaved and lost.

Please think about this very carefully.

Peace
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Why would I go against something my tells me to do, I surrender to it. I am possessed by my heart, my higher being. Finding my self is like a little kid in a candy shop, as we have a lot of hidden talents waiting to be discovered. For instance, I discovered I am good in Tai Chi, dancing, and druming. It's discovering ourselves.
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I don't disagree with your post here. You are doing well. Why the anger?
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Some are chosen to go the route of enlightenment, to be close to the Father, Mother, and The higher self.

When people have a Spiritual Awakening, it wasn't them that awoken the Spirit, It was the Father telling the Mother to awaken our sacred energy.

Once our Spiritual energy is awaken, it is like being possessed, it controls you. For instance longing to be close to the Father, the feeling on how powerful his love can feel. To be close to nature, the urge to dance with Mother, the loving feeling we get to all living things, etc

Some people have been chosen, as it was their destiny, when they are chosen it's nearly impossible to go back to their old ways of living.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


I'm sorry, but I respectfully and completely disagree. We are not guided, controlled possessed, weak and frail beings at the mercy of some god. WE are in control of our journey. Whether WE are ready to ascend or not is up to us. No one or no thing is controlling us unless we let it.

Please listen! This is the most important thing I could say to you. To believe that you are not in control of your reality/journey is the ultimate deception! That is how we are kept enslaved and lost.

Please think about this very carefully.

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


Why would I go against something my tells me to do, I surrender to it. I am possessed by my heart, my higher being. Finding my self is like a little kid in a candy shop, as we have a lot of hidden talents waiting to be discovered. For instance, I discovered I am good in Tai Chi, dancing, and druming. It's discovering ourselves.
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I don't disagree with your post here. You are doing well. Why the anger?
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Like I said, I'm not angry, don't have a mean bone in my body. Cheers.
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You are preaching the New Age crap, though it's only one part of it. You are mentioning all the physical stuff that the New Agers do, all your missing is the inner stuff.

Whats so hard to sit down and close your eyes a few minutes a day? It brings relaxation to our lives, our brain is constantly working, so why not give it a break. It's not hard to ascend, just be true to your heart, it aint difficult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


If you would stop being so angry and ugly, you would understand that that is what I said in the original post...

Stop trying to label others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


Sorry If I gave you that impression, anger goes against my character, but still you are saying what the new agers would say. Just pointing it out.
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If I simply say that all you need to ascend is love in your heart and to not be afraid, how is that "New Age"? It is a very simple and beautiful truth that you even expressed to me!
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You are preaching the New Age crap, though it's only one part of it. You are mentioning all the physical stuff that the New Agers do, all your missing is the inner stuff.

Whats so hard to sit down and close your eyes a few minutes a day? It brings relaxation to our lives, our brain is constantly working, so why not give it a break. It's not hard to ascend, just be true to your heart, it aint difficult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


If you would stop being so angry and ugly, you would understand that that is what I said in the original post...

Stop trying to label others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


Sorry If I gave you that impression, anger goes against my character, but still you are saying what the new agers would say. Just pointing it out.
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If I simply say that all you need to ascend is love in your heart and to not be afraid, how is that "New Age"? It is a very simple and beautiful truth that you even expressed to me!
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Because New Agers are all about love, and all about what you said.
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If you would stop being so angry and ugly, you would understand that that is what I said in the original post...

Stop trying to label others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


Sorry If I gave you that impression, anger goes against my character, but still you are saying what the new agers would say. Just pointing it out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


If I simply say that all you need to ascend is love in your heart and to not be afraid, how is that "New Age"? It is a very simple and beautiful truth that you even expressed to me!
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Because New Agers are all about love, and all about what you said.
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Don't you believe that love is the answer? Maybe we just disagree on the definition of what love really is.
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To repeat a previous post I made:

"Love for me means accepting others for what and who they are unconditionally. To let others live their life because their journey is unique to them. Love is not this "huggy", "kissy" "blissed out" New Age idea where we have to go around hugging each other.

For me, it is simply accepting others for who and what they are unconditionally with hate, anger, fear or other physical limitations."
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Just another WORKS salvation... Works salvation will not save you.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Titus 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Titus 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

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