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In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.

 
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In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
This, from the state government of Pennsylvania:

"the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045"

[link to www.zerohedge.com]

The charts on that page will blow your mind.

Update:

From the presentation (produced by the state itself):

:subsidy:

FYI, that is not sustainable.

UPDATE: Here is the chart. Remember, it is produced by the state itself, not some other entity with an axe to grind.

:welfarecliff:

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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Fucking ridiculous.
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hiding
Justalittlebad/more or less
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
This was on hiffington too but Ithink the removed because they love obama.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Don't like the rules, don't play the game.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Don't like the rules, don't play the game.
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the rules of what? taxpaying? no choice there.

this is the single best thread I have seen in a very long time.

i have always wondered about the point where my earnings would overtake my possible benefits as a single parent.

I have always worked as a single (not by choice) mother and have not felt the need to apply for reduced lunches, free lunches, and other assistance because I did not need it.

But you do wonder - if I did take it, how much better off would I be?
The earned income tax credit is a biggie. It has been a help to me. But free lunches, free this and that, gaming the system to milk it for more, no.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Don't like the rules, don't play the game.
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the rules of what? taxpaying? no choice there.

this is the single best thread I have seen in a very long time.

i have always wondered about the point where my earnings would overtake my possible benefits as a single parent.

I have always worked as a single (not by choice) mother and have not felt the need to apply for reduced lunches, free lunches, and other assistance because I did not need it.

But you do wonder - if I did take it, how much better off would I be?
The earned income tax credit is a biggie. It has been a help to me. But free lunches, free this and that, gaming the system to milk it for more, no.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778


but why not?

tax dept. sting you every chance they can, why not take a little back.

fuck em, get anything and everything you legally can that you're entitled to.
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Continuing above post, we have had a comfortable life.

But what if I did decide not to work - how much worse off would we really be?

From the info I glean here, for many single parents, the answer would be : not worse off at all, maybe better.
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it only applies if the person is female with '' ton'' of kids and without a father figure is even better... but for a single male , forget it, he will still be paying more on income taxes and forget such help from the gov regardless of whether he could live off that salary or not.
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good to know that when i finish my engineering degree (with 20k debt) that i wont make as much money as one lazy vagina........why am i wasting my time.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
it isn't just the government involved.

If you belong to a church or synagogue, they usually ask you to tithe (give 10% of income) or use a sliding scale.

If I did it according to my full-time income, it would have been very little.

Including child support (which is not taxable) made my contribution much bigger, but I did not want to cheat and so I included it in my 'income'.

No, it is not good to be dependent. Money you earn is the sweetest money.
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good to know that when i finish my engineering degree (with 20k debt) that i wont make as much money as one lazy vagina........why am i wasting my time.
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because 10 years out you will be doing incomparably better.

Congratulations on your achievement!
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Good my emt salary will be shit
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bump

for the working man
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
... and you people actually believe this shit? Show me one fucking person on zerohedge or on this site that would accept the 29k over the 69k.

SHOW ME FUCKING ONE PERSON!!! What a bullshit article... Completely fucking ridiculous this is what passes as information..


What a joke. That author should be mocked out of business... I want that author to state he would take the 29k as opposed to the 69k believing he would have a better life.


The internet is so full of shit!!!!
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
I once worked at a community college. My job was to order lab supplies and make sure the materials were on had for labs and prepared when they met. Biology / Chemistry labs. Very little Physical sciences.

Anyway. I worked 12 month contract. Most people were either 10 or 12 month contracts. I wanted 10 but was not allowed to opt for it. So I was offered an 11 month contract.

Long story short. With my 11 month salary spread across 12 monthly pay periods, I was less than 100 dollars off my regular pay check each month.

In other words. the 12th month I was working to pay taxes.

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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
This, from the state government of Pennsylvania:

"the single mom is better off earning gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045"

[link to www.zerohedge.com]

The charts on that page will blow your mind.
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


He's a big believer in punishing success.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
good to know that when i finish my engineering degree (with 20k debt) that i wont make as much money as one lazy vagina........why am i wasting my time.
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because 10 years out you will be doing incomparably better.

Congratulations on your achievement!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778


How do you figure that? They don't want to fucking hire anyone that won't work for lame wages, educated or not. It sucks, but we're too far gone now to reverse the direction of our ship headed to the iceberg.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
I agree!

We need to cut these single white women off the dole!

These lazy white bitches have gotten a free ride far too long!
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Thanks working man. :D
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Fucking ridiculous.
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that anyone falls for such rubbish ?
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Don't like the rules, don't play the game.
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Karl?

Is that you?

How's Engels doing?
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Money is debased daily by the minions of the state and by traders whose fee is made very easily thru ruination and usury. In the days of the Tudors men who were convicted of high treason were hanged, drawn and quartered. High Treason included counterfeiting money and "coining" (the clipping of coins for pieces of silver and gold which were melted down to produce counterfeit coins), possession of coining equipment and colouring base metal coins (to pass them off as of higher value). No trial is possible today naturally since the state is legally above the state bound by law.

Prosperum ac felix scelus
Virtus vocatur
(Successful and fortunate crime is called virtue).
Seneca: Herc. Furens, ii. 250. [

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Treason doth never prosper: what ’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
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it only applies if the person is female with '' ton'' of kids and without a father figure is even better... but for a single male , forget it, he will still be paying more on income taxes and forget such help from the gov regardless of whether he could live off that salary or not.
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the charts are for one mother with one child.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
it isn't just the government involved.

If you belong to a church or synagogue, they usually ask you to tithe (give 10% of income) or use a sliding scale.

If I did it according to my full-time income, it would have been very little.

Including child support (which is not taxable) made my contribution much bigger, but I did not want to cheat and so I included it in my 'income'.

No, it is not good to be dependent. Money you earn is the sweetest money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28167778



Lemme get this straight: You are comparing the IRS with your local church? Does your church have a Tithe Enforcement Division?
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
I am on SSDI, back is really messed up as are my shoulders. No kids, own my house. $14k a year in income, fuel assistance this year is $200, I get medical help of about $100 a month and $16 in food stamps. Yup I am getting rich off the government rant No taxes so no earned income credit no negative tax, no other help.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Fucking ridiculous.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


AND fucking stupid as well...


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whatever tard.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
Maybe instead of sending us refund checks next year the IRS will send us some Vaseline.
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Re: In America, you are better off earning $29K than $69K. Welcome to Obamerica.
... and you people actually believe this shit? Show me one fucking person on zerohedge or on this site that would accept the 29k over the 69k.

SHOW ME FUCKING ONE PERSON!!! What a bullshit article... Completely fucking ridiculous this is what passes as information..


What a joke. That author should be mocked out of business... I want that author to state he would take the 29k as opposed to the 69k believing he would have a better life.


The internet is so full of shit!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24210762


Hey friendo,

It's not "the internet". It is the Pennsylvania STATE Department of Public Welfare (e.g. the guys who actually write the checks).

Here is a follow-up article...

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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Fucking ridiculous.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


that anyone falls for such rubbish ?
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Did you read the article, Dundee? Did you understand the chart or did the pretty pictures simply dazzle you?

Last Edited by Mugatu on 12/02/2012 12:11 AM

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