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Thanks for the info. That could be exciting.
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Nothing in our news, they only talk about spain and greece... Keep it going until they can't hide any longer.
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No point to be on msm...20 cops rulling 2,000 SHEEPS...because those people cannot be called protester : no molotovs, no cops with cracked heads, no building in flames.

Slovenia is an artificial country, with no national tradition.


Just a bunch of wussies.
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lol lol lol lol lol

says someone from romania...
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power to the people!
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Maybe here are more information about that, what's going on - read the comment on English: [link to enough14.org]

I was informing the Laura K. and her forum Cassopaea about Slovenia, but she ignored my notice.
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1. Slovenia is part of the Eastern bloc. Hardly CENTRAL Europe. If it was central, people in Europe would care. They don't, so it's not.

2. A minor incident for 2 days not reported even in RT? Hardly a cause of a panic attack

Come back when the Budestag building is on fire...
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This is good to see the people standing up for their rights. I ask myself daily, when will the people of the world face their oppressors. We belong here on earth, and we were born to be free. How can just a few dominate over seven billion people without a peep from the oppressed? It is time to take our rightful seat in the world.
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Usually it is the commies rioting, don't know who it is in this case but my guess is it's the commies as per usual.

So standing up for rights isn't really the case if it's the commies, then it's to implode the state and bring in the commie dictatorship.

So I'd be cautious about this "they're standing for their rights", especially the use of the word "fascist" is very common in commie vocabulary, everyone that's not of them is a "fascist" or a "racist".

And you do know communism is just another part of the NWO.
Commie rioters used to bring in the global empire.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-

we have experience with communisms. these riots have nothing to do with them.
it is a civilian thing, idelogically it is anarchic in essence. not anarchic as the msm usually portraits it as something chaotic and violent. anarchism is the only political philosophy that is based on direct democracy.

one of the main goals of the protests is adjusting our laws according to the constitution. for in the constitution, it is us, the people, who is the authority and we can excercise our authority directly and indirectly, through elections. in praxis, the parliament has fixed the laws so, that we can hardly influence what they are doing, while in fact we should be the ones who give them orders and check them from time to time, if their service is ok or not...

the political establishment also wants to change our legislation. they want to change our constitution, so that our authority is even more weakened and the possibilities of direct democracy even less possible..

no party is supporting the protests. only civilian groups and individuals.

of course, the so calle dcommies (actualy pseudo leftists) will try to overtake the protests' energy, but many people are awake already so the ending is not foreseeable..

on friday, there were supposedly some young fascists, who made some problems, most people think, they were paid by the government to discredit the protests..
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1. Slovenia is part of the Eastern bloc. Hardly CENTRAL Europe. If it was central, people in Europe would care. They don't, so it's not.

2. A minor incident for 2 days not reported even in RT? Hardly a cause of a panic attack

Come back when the Budestag building is on fire...
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a minor incident?
las week in 2 biggest cities there were the biggest and most violent protests in 20 years.
next week, there is a protest everyday announced, the biggest protest already announced for the 21st of december.
we dont have demonstrations everyday like the greeks and italians
last time we had an incident similar to this, it was the 10 day war and it meant the start of war in Yugoslavia...

slovenia was never part of the eastern block. it was non - aligned. tito broke with stalin and russia was not our friend.

if there is a state which is more central european than slovenia, you are free to show it to me ;)

Slovenia is the land between Vienna and Venice, cities, that both carry the name of our ancestors, the Vendi, as the austrians still call us. Vendi, Veneti, is the name of the ancient - paleolithic - native european nation, the ancestors of the Celts, the Sarmatians and the Slavonics.
their language was the protoindoeuropeans, meaning, that slovenians still today have the most archaic language in europe, closest to vedic sanskrit.
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Mayor was the last straw. He made millions probably for himself (not to mentions he is suspected of similar things allready) with installing 1 traffic radar per 3000 residents. And since Maribor is worker city whitout work and money this was it. [...]
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So the goal of this revolution is to be allowed to drive too fast through the city? And you all have no jobs, nevertheless you can afford to race around with your cars all day long?

Btw, the official unemployment rate of Slovenia is 8.5 %.
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Slovenia is the land between Vienna and Venice, cities, that both carry the name of our ancestors, the Vendi, as the austrians still call us. Vendi, Veneti, is the name of the ancient - paleolithic - native european nation, the ancestors of the Celts, the Sarmatians and the Slavonics.
their language was the protoindoeuropeans, meaning, that slovenians still today have the most archaic language in europe, closest to vedic sanskrit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15099531


Sorry OP but i'm calling BS on this one, the Venetic theory is a universally rejected historical anachronistic fail. Took the time to read about it some years ago tbh and it's not strange at all that it's universally rejected by all scholars and archaeologists and is accepted only by some Slavs, goes as far as saying that the Greek and Roman alphabet/language/civilizations and pretty much the whole European ones came from the Slavs.
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Mayor was the last straw. He made millions probably for himself (not to mentions he is suspected of similar things allready) with installing 1 traffic radar per 3000 residents. And since Maribor is worker city whitout work and money this was it. [...]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28659525


So the goal of this revolution is to be allowed to drive too fast through the city? And you all have no jobs, nevertheless you can afford to race around with your cars all day long?

Btw, the official unemployment rate of Slovenia is 8.5 %.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28942482


no, that was the last drop, that spiled the water over the bucket.

the radars were just the last nail into our financial coffin. low unemployment rate is artificial, because there are some bureaucratic maneuvers, that readjust the qualifications.
we have shity times and many people look romantically back on the socialist times, when nobody was stinking rich and noone was starving. now, we have some stinky rich bastards that stole our country, but over one half of people is struggling for thei everyday life.

in the last year, many lost their social money, kids dont get to eat in schools any more, but on the other hand, the mayor of maribor bought 100 radars only to pull the last money out of the mariborian pockets. this was a direct attack on their existence.

and because it is just the last economic attack on us, while we can allready hardly keep up, it was too much and obviously, people have woken up in such masses, that such an enlightened revolt is possible.

next days and weeks will be problematic, because the system will try to do everything it can think of to distract us and make us forget the problems and quit the protests. what they don't realise is we actually dont have a choice and we know it. they want us to forget that and fall asleep back. they know we cannot keep up with their 'reforms' and that the reforms are meant to strangulate us, so that the foreign banks can rob our country freely. but they dont like us knowing ot, because that kills all their magic, and that is what they are doing, they are hypnotising us in some flashy disneyland, while they are poisoning our bodies and robbing our property...
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Mayor was the last straw. He made millions probably for himself (not to mentions he is suspected of similar things allready) with installing 1 traffic radar per 3000 residents. And since Maribor is worker city whitout work and money this was it. [...]
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So the goal of this revolution is to be allowed to drive too fast through the city? And you all have no jobs, nevertheless you can afford to race around with your cars all day long?

Btw, the official unemployment rate of Slovenia is 8.5 %.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28942482


no, that was the last drop, that spiled the water over the bucket.

the radars were just the last nail into our financial coffin. low unemployment rate is artificial, because there are some bureaucratic maneuvers, that readjust the qualifications.
we have shity times and many people look romantically back on the socialist times, when nobody was stinking rich and noone was starving. now, we have some stinky rich bastards that stole our country, but over one half of people is struggling for thei everyday life.

in the last year, many lost their social money, kids dont get to eat in schools any more, but on the other hand, the mayor of maribor bought 100 radars only to pull the last money out of the mariborian pockets. this was a direct attack on their existence.

and because it is just the last economic attack on us, while we can allready hardly keep up, it was too much and obviously, people have woken up in such masses, that such an enlightened revolt is possible.

next days and weeks will be problematic, because the system will try to do everything it can think of to distract us and make us forget the problems and quit the protests. what they don't realise is we actually dont have a choice and we know it. they want us to forget that and fall asleep back. they know we cannot keep up with their 'reforms' and that the reforms are meant to strangulate us, so that the foreign banks can rob our country freely. but they dont like us knowing ot, because that kills all their magic, and that is what they are doing, they are hypnotising us in some flashy disneyland, while they are poisoning our bodies and robbing our property...
 Quoting: a 15099531


You are the weak.

You are the excuse for larger conflicts due to your barbarism over time.

Europeans as a whole are useful tools for the greater good. Europe cannot exist for more than 30 years between genocides... very useful indeed.

Fools.
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Slovenia is the land between Vienna and Venice, cities, that both carry the name of our ancestors, the Vendi, as the austrians still call us. Vendi, Veneti, is the name of the ancient - paleolithic - native european nation, the ancestors of the Celts, the Sarmatians and the Slavonics.
their language was the protoindoeuropeans, meaning, that slovenians still today have the most archaic language in europe, closest to vedic sanskrit.
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Sorry OP but i'm calling BS on this one, the Venetic theory is a universally rejected historical anachronistic fail. Took the time to read about it some years ago tbh and it's not strange at all that it's universally rejected by all scholars and archaeologists and is accepted only by some Slavs, goes as far as saying that the Greek and Roman alphabet/language/civilizations and pretty much the whole European ones came from the Slavs.
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look, this is not a thread about history. i only tell you what here people believe. some poeple of course also prefer to believe official scholars and we have some such poeple here as well. but for discovering the truth, official 'truths' are to be taken with a grain of salt, specially when history is in question.
so let's stick by facts and leave the interpretation to all individuals.

1. there is some 25%-40% genetic continuity from the european paleolithic
2. there is a genetic relation between balkan slavs and indian brahmans, minimally 10.000 years old
3. in the gravetien - the ice age (from circa 30.000 - 10.000 bc)there was a culture in the area from France to Crimea, meaning from Krain to Ukraine (notice the name similarity) kraj = place, end
4. after the ice age, when the sea level rose and coverd the until then fertile valleyy, 1ooo settlemenst were established around the alps, having similar geological and climate predispositions as the Adriatic valley during the ice age. they wer the first european farmers and goat breeders
5. the culture of Vinca was established, being the first metalurgic centre in europe
6. veneti, the first settled culture, spread all over europe
7. veneti were considered the ancestors of the celts in france
8. the most common english name Bennett derived from Venet (we say Benetke - Venice)
9.russian legend speak of their ancestors coming from the Danube region
10. the balkan is linguistically the origin of slavonics
11. slovenian language is the most archaic of slavonic languages, which are most connected to sanksrit as the y belogn to the satem group of ie languages
12. the balkan festivals and traditions are paleolithic in origin, shamanism, natural magic, matriarchy, sun worship and many songs and traditions of the sort were still very much alive in the 19th and 20 th century.
13, Mario Alinei,an Italian linguist, has proven, that slovenian language is the basis of many latin and german words, meaning,m that our ancestors were already here, when the romans came
14. there is no plausible explanation, when could the slovenes settle slovenia. there was no historical settlement, and the roman / greek sources speak of the high antiquity of the people, living here.
The official history is namely full of unexplainble holes. more than half of europe is supposed to vanish and be replaced by some unknown people, coming from some uninhabitable marshes. it suited the imperial forces, who invented these theory of a slavonic late historical settlement, but it cannpot withstand a rational review of history.
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Mayor was the last straw. He made millions probably for himself (not to mentions he is suspected of similar things allready) with installing 1 traffic radar per 3000 residents. And since Maribor is worker city whitout work and money this was it. [...]
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So the goal of this revolution is to be allowed to drive too fast through the city? And you all have no jobs, nevertheless you can afford to race around with your cars all day long?

Btw, the official unemployment rate of Slovenia is 8.5 %.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28942482


no, that was the last drop, that spiled the water over the bucket.

the radars were just the last nail into our financial coffin. low unemployment rate is artificial, because there are some bureaucratic maneuvers, that readjust the qualifications.
we have shity times and many people look romantically back on the socialist times, when nobody was stinking rich and noone was starving. now, we have some stinky rich bastards that stole our country, but over one half of people is struggling for thei everyday life.

in the last year, many lost their social money, kids dont get to eat in schools any more, but on the other hand, the mayor of maribor bought 100 radars only to pull the last money out of the mariborian pockets. this was a direct attack on their existence.

and because it is just the last economic attack on us, while we can allready hardly keep up, it was too much and obviously, people have woken up in such masses, that such an enlightened revolt is possible.

next days and weeks will be problematic, because the system will try to do everything it can think of to distract us and make us forget the problems and quit the protests. what they don't realise is we actually dont have a choice and we know it. they want us to forget that and fall asleep back. they know we cannot keep up with their 'reforms' and that the reforms are meant to strangulate us, so that the foreign banks can rob our country freely. but they dont like us knowing ot, because that kills all their magic, and that is what they are doing, they are hypnotising us in some flashy disneyland, while they are poisoning our bodies and robbing our property...
 Quoting: a 15099531


You are the weak.

You are the excuse for larger conflicts due to your barbarism over time.

Europeans as a whole are useful tools for the greater good. Europe cannot exist for more than 30 years between genocides... very useful indeed.

Fools.
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you have no clue...
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So the goal of this revolution is to be allowed to drive too fast through the city? And you all have no jobs, nevertheless you can afford to race around with your cars all day long?

Btw, the official unemployment rate of Slovenia is 8.5 %.
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no, that was the last drop, that spiled the water over the bucket.

the radars were just the last nail into our financial coffin. low unemployment rate is artificial, because there are some bureaucratic maneuvers, that readjust the qualifications.
we have shity times and many people look romantically back on the socialist times, when nobody was stinking rich and noone was starving. now, we have some stinky rich bastards that stole our country, but over one half of people is struggling for thei everyday life.

in the last year, many lost their social money, kids dont get to eat in schools any more, but on the other hand, the mayor of maribor bought 100 radars only to pull the last money out of the mariborian pockets. this was a direct attack on their existence.

and because it is just the last economic attack on us, while we can allready hardly keep up, it was too much and obviously, people have woken up in such masses, that such an enlightened revolt is possible.

next days and weeks will be problematic, because the system will try to do everything it can think of to distract us and make us forget the problems and quit the protests. what they don't realise is we actually dont have a choice and we know it. they want us to forget that and fall asleep back. they know we cannot keep up with their 'reforms' and that the reforms are meant to strangulate us, so that the foreign banks can rob our country freely. but they dont like us knowing ot, because that kills all their magic, and that is what they are doing, they are hypnotising us in some flashy disneyland, while they are poisoning our bodies and robbing our property...
 Quoting: a 15099531


You are the weak.

You are the excuse for larger conflicts due to your barbarism over time.

Europeans as a whole are useful tools for the greater good. Europe cannot exist for more than 30 years between genocides... very useful indeed.

Fools.
 Quoting: 535 1326993

you have no clue...
 Quoting: a 15099531


Clues are not required when it is already known who has committed the crime.

The time draws near.
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before the protests turned violent.
singing a mediaval rebbelion song
and the international socialist hymn
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Slovenia is the land between Vienna and Venice, cities, that both carry the name of our ancestors, the Vendi, as the austrians still call us. Vendi, Veneti, is the name of the ancient - paleolithic - native european nation, the ancestors of the Celts, the Sarmatians and the Slavonics.
their language was the protoindoeuropeans, meaning, that slovenians still today have the most archaic language in europe, closest to vedic sanskrit.
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Sorry OP but i'm calling BS on this one, the Venetic theory is a universally rejected historical anachronistic fail. Took the time to read about it some years ago tbh and it's not strange at all that it's universally rejected by all scholars and archaeologists and is accepted only by some Slavs, goes as far as saying that the Greek and Roman alphabet/language/civilizations and pretty much the whole European ones came from the Slavs.
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look, this is not a thread about history. i only tell you what here people believe. some poeple of course also prefer to believe official scholars and we have some such poeple here as well. but for discovering the truth, official 'truths' are to be taken with a grain of salt, specially when history is in question.
so let's stick by facts and leave the interpretation to all individuals.


 Quoting: a 15099531


I know it's a bit OT, just wanted to set the record straight, no need to post more things about it like the facts you did coz i gave this a serious read back then when i learned about this theory (wouldn't challenge you otherwise) and it's complete nonfactual BS promoted for propagandist reasons mostly in Slovenia during the 80's, i agree about the official and unofficial history but the Venetic theory is not supported even by truthseekers and non-mainstream archaeologists and historians all around the world except from some Slav ones, no one else, nothing truth-seeking about it, just a Slavic nonfactual propagandist fairytale.

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no, that was the last drop, that spiled the water over the bucket.

the radars were just the last nail into our financial coffin. low unemployment rate is artificial, because there are some bureaucratic maneuvers, that readjust the qualifications.
we have shity times and many people look romantically back on the socialist times, when nobody was stinking rich and noone was starving. now, we have some stinky rich bastards that stole our country, but over one half of people is struggling for thei everyday life.

in the last year, many lost their social money, kids dont get to eat in schools any more, but on the other hand, the mayor of maribor bought 100 radars only to pull the last money out of the mariborian pockets. this was a direct attack on their existence.

and because it is just the last economic attack on us, while we can allready hardly keep up, it was too much and obviously, people have woken up in such masses, that such an enlightened revolt is possible.

next days and weeks will be problematic, because the system will try to do everything it can think of to distract us and make us forget the problems and quit the protests. what they don't realise is we actually dont have a choice and we know it. they want us to forget that and fall asleep back. they know we cannot keep up with their 'reforms' and that the reforms are meant to strangulate us, so that the foreign banks can rob our country freely. but they dont like us knowing ot, because that kills all their magic, and that is what they are doing, they are hypnotising us in some flashy disneyland, while they are poisoning our bodies and robbing our property...
 Quoting: a 15099531


You are the weak.

You are the excuse for larger conflicts due to your barbarism over time.

Europeans as a whole are useful tools for the greater good. Europe cannot exist for more than 30 years between genocides... very useful indeed.

Fools.
 Quoting: 535 1326993

you have no clue...
 Quoting: a 15099531


Clues are not required when it is already known who has committed the crime.

The time draws near.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


well, we know that our primer minister could panick and call in the nato forces. accidentally, they start they aero war games tomorrow, just above slovenia...

[link to web.vecer.com]

if nato forces would walk in, it would be viewed as occupation by civilians and that would not go well...

yes, we know nato is killing us allready from the sky with the aeroshit...

we have been genocided many times in history...
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Thousands of Hungarians join anti-Nazi protest

BUDAPEST, Dec. 2 (Xinhua) -- Thousands of Hungarians gathered in front of the country's parliament on Sunday to attend an anti-Nazi protest.

The demonstration was initiated by an organization called All Together for Jerusalem, and joined by political leaders from the government and left-wing opposition alike, along with a number of civic groups.

The movement was in response to a statement made on Monday by far-right Jobbik party's Member of Parliament Marton Gyongyosi, in which he urged to make a list of all Jews living in Hungary, especially Jewish MPs and ministers, saying that they represent a "certain national security risk."

[link to news.xinhuanet.com]
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This is some serious shit

damned
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Slovenia is the land between Vienna and Venice, cities, that both carry the name of our ancestors, the Vendi, as the austrians still call us. Vendi, Veneti, is the name of the ancient - paleolithic - native european nation, the ancestors of the Celts, the Sarmatians and the Slavonics.
their language was the protoindoeuropeans, meaning, that slovenians still today have the most archaic language in europe, closest to vedic sanskrit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15099531


Sorry OP but i'm calling BS on this one, the Venetic theory is a universally rejected historical anachronistic fail. Took the time to read about it some years ago tbh and it's not strange at all that it's universally rejected by all scholars and archaeologists and is accepted only by some Slavs, goes as far as saying that the Greek and Roman alphabet/language/civilizations and pretty much the whole European ones came from the Slavs.
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look, this is not a thread about history. i only tell you what here people believe. some poeple of course also prefer to believe official scholars and we have some such poeple here as well. but for discovering the truth, official 'truths' are to be taken with a grain of salt, specially when history is in question.
so let's stick by facts and leave the interpretation to all individuals.


 Quoting: a 15099531


I know it's a bit OT, just wanted to set the record straight, no need to post more things about it like the facts you did coz i gave this a serious read back then when i learned about this theory (wouldn't challenge you otherwise) and it's complete nonfactual BS promoted for propagandist reasons mostly in Slovenia during the 80's, i agree about the official and unofficial history but the Venetic theory is not supported even by truthseekers and non-mainstream archaeologists and historians all around the world except from some Slav ones, no one else, nothing truth-seeking about it, just a Slavic nonfactual propagandist fairytale.
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well, being Greek, it is possible you are being offended, for our pointing out, that the world did not begin with Paris and Helen ;)
we acutally have many similarities with the greeks, and also historical contact although only after the contacts with the phoenicians were broken.

even in the official interpretation of history, nobody can deny, that our customs and traditions are preroman and that they are native to the country. we have a dionisiac divinity for instance, there are name relations like sybile - sembila, kuretes - kurenti, delphi - devin, silvan - silen, semela - zemla, and also word relation, like mogila - gomila etc.
traditions can vary here a lot from valley to valley, just like in ancient greece. in some parts the music is ionic, in some parts doric, in some eolic, in some frigian, in some pentatonic...
even the official historians admit, there had to be a certain continuation, for we have no traditions of some other homeland. our legends speak of the God Kurent (dyonisus) saved us after the deluge with a vine at the northern adriatic beach...
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this is a video, showing how the conflict started.
1. a group of nationalists came
2. some started screaming at them 'fucking nazis!'(some in ENGLISH!?)
3. the police comes in
4. the fight starts
5. the media blaims the nationalists ad being nazi

fact. nationalists had the karantanian panther, our mediaval state sign, which is beign distorted by leftists as being nazi. and there is a small group of (parliamentarian right wing party sponsored) blood and honour nazi punks, who abuse the panther and all the media now claims that all panthers are nazi,
while in essence, the panther is a symbol of our sovereignity
but such perversion helps the media to isolate all tendencies for sovereignity as nazistic

i hope you will be able to see the video. i noticed some videos just don't show. maybe you can find the link if you quote my posts..
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Sorry OP but i'm calling BS on this one, the Venetic theory is a universally rejected historical anachronistic fail. Took the time to read about it some years ago tbh and it's not strange at all that it's universally rejected by all scholars and archaeologists and is accepted only by some Slavs, goes as far as saying that the Greek and Roman alphabet/language/civilizations and pretty much the whole European ones came from the Slavs.
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look, this is not a thread about history. i only tell you what here people believe. some poeple of course also prefer to believe official scholars and we have some such poeple here as well. but for discovering the truth, official 'truths' are to be taken with a grain of salt, specially when history is in question.
so let's stick by facts and leave the interpretation to all individuals.


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I know it's a bit OT, just wanted to set the record straight, no need to post more things about it like the facts you did coz i gave this a serious read back then when i learned about this theory (wouldn't challenge you otherwise) and it's complete nonfactual BS promoted for propagandist reasons mostly in Slovenia during the 80's, i agree about the official and unofficial history but the Venetic theory is not supported even by truthseekers and non-mainstream archaeologists and historians all around the world except from some Slav ones, no one else, nothing truth-seeking about it, just a Slavic nonfactual propagandist fairytale.
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well, being Greek, it is possible you are being offended, for our pointing out, that the world did not begin with Paris and Helen ;)
we acutally have many similarities with the greeks, and also historical contact although only after the contacts with the phoenicians were broken.

even in the official interpretation of history, nobody can deny, that our customs and traditions are preroman and that they are native to the country. we have a dionisiac divinity for instance, there are name relations like sybile - sembila, kuretes - kurenti, delphi - devin, silvan - silen, semela - zemla, and also word relation, like mogila - gomila etc.
traditions can vary here a lot from valley to valley, just like in ancient greece. in some parts the music is ionic, in some parts doric, in some eolic, in some frigian, in some pentatonic...
even the official historians admit, there had to be a certain continuation, for we have no traditions of some other homeland. our legends speak of the God Kurent (dyonisus) saved us after the deluge with a vine at the northern adriatic beach...
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Not offended my mate, just having a chat coz i'm fascinated and read a lot about archaeology since very young age, one of my favorite hobbies. History didn't start with Paris off course but most certainly didn't start with the Slavs as you seem to believe.

Slovens don't speak the most ancient language in Europe, that's a fact and the Veneti theory is based on thin air with no archaeological basis or findings whatsoever bar legends and guesses and words look or sound the same with the neighboring civilizations, it's like Greece claiming Atlantis civilization coz it's a Greek name, but we don't have something concrete to prove this now do we? That's what we have with the venetic theory, it's very sloppy work that claims that the whole Europe, modern Russia and the Middle East back then were speaking Slavic, it's an utter propagandist fail, no connection, no consistency, no findings, nothing, just guesses and plenty of brainstorming, but this is not how archaeology works for sure and fortunately.

It was promoted mostly in Slovenia during the 80's to challenge both the Slavic 6th century theory and the national consciousness of the people back then, an attempt to differ themselves from the rest of the Yugoslavian Slavs being so close to Italy and the influence that the Latin civilization which was heavily Hellenized after a point with all the pagan rituals, had in the region, that's why it was not followed by anyone around the world, it was mostly a propagandist tool and i was actually surprised hearing you mention it, it has been proven to be fail for 2 decades now.

The fact that some words of yours look or sound like Greek ones doesn't mean something imo, we've all being living in this region for ages and the Hellenization process back then was huge to say the least (i consider it to be the NWO of the time). Even modern English uses 20 thousand Greek words, 5 thousand of them used frequently/daily, all other Balkan neighboring languages and civilizations would have been influenced after so many years, it's inevitable.
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You are the weak.

You are the excuse for larger conflicts due to your barbarism over time.

Europeans as a whole are useful tools for the greater good. Europe cannot exist for more than 30 years between genocides... very useful indeed.

Fools.
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you have no clue...
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Clues are not required when it is already known who has committed the crime.

The time draws near.
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well, we know that our primer minister could panick and call in the nato forces. accidentally, they start they aero war games tomorrow, just above slovenia...

[link to web.vecer.com]

if nato forces would walk in, it would be viewed as occupation by civilians and that would not go well...

yes, we know nato is killing us allready from the sky with the aeroshit...

we have been genocided many times in history...
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It will not be accidental, and the reason will be one of survival.

NATO is there for your protection. However, the forces that NATO is to fight are in control by the same masters.

After the Triple Bridge is left in ruin, the dragon will return to oversee what is left of your country.

Ljubljana is the only city of merit within Slovenia of mild importance, the rest is simply land to be overrun.

Your nation is a speed-bump, at best.
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This is good to see the people standing up for their rights. I ask myself daily, when will the people of the world face their oppressors. We belong here on earth, and we were born to be free. How can just a few dominate over seven billion people without a peep from the oppressed? It is time to take our rightful seat in the world.
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Usually it is the commies rioting, don't know who it is in this case but my guess is it's the commies as per usual.

So standing up for rights isn't really the case if it's the commies, then it's to implode the state and bring in the commie dictatorship.

So I'd be cautious about this "they're standing for their rights", especially the use of the word "fascist" is very common in commie vocabulary, everyone that's not of them is a "fascist" or a "racist".

And you do know communism is just another part of the NWO.
Commie rioters used to bring in the global empire.

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No, it's the FASCIST CAPPIES that want to bring in a CORPORATE GLOBAL EMPIRE you typical brainwashed fool.

Those Commies are the first ones on the street fighting the police because they are sick and tired of being oppressed by bosses and business owners and their bitches the police.
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look, this is not a thread about history. i only tell you what here people believe. some poeple of course also prefer to believe official scholars and we have some such poeple here as well. but for discovering the truth, official 'truths' are to be taken with a grain of salt, specially when history is in question.
so let's stick by facts and leave the interpretation to all individuals.


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I know it's a bit OT, just wanted to set the record straight, no need to post more things about it like the facts you did coz i gave this a serious read back then when i learned about this theory (wouldn't challenge you otherwise) and it's complete nonfactual BS promoted for propagandist reasons mostly in Slovenia during the 80's, i agree about the official and unofficial history but the Venetic theory is not supported even by truthseekers and non-mainstream archaeologists and historians all around the world except from some Slav ones, no one else, nothing truth-seeking about it, just a Slavic nonfactual propagandist fairytale.
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well, being Greek, it is possible you are being offended, for our pointing out, that the world did not begin with Paris and Helen ;)
we acutally have many similarities with the greeks, and also historical contact although only after the contacts with the phoenicians were broken.

even in the official interpretation of history, nobody can deny, that our customs and traditions are preroman and that they are native to the country. we have a dionisiac divinity for instance, there are name relations like sybile - sembila, kuretes - kurenti, delphi - devin, silvan - silen, semela - zemla, and also word relation, like mogila - gomila etc.
traditions can vary here a lot from valley to valley, just like in ancient greece. in some parts the music is ionic, in some parts doric, in some eolic, in some frigian, in some pentatonic...
even the official historians admit, there had to be a certain continuation, for we have no traditions of some other homeland. our legends speak of the God Kurent (dyonisus) saved us after the deluge with a vine at the northern adriatic beach...
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Not offended my mate, just having a chat coz i'm fascinated and read a lot about archaeology since very young age, one of my favorite hobbies. History didn't start with Paris off course but most certainly didn't start with the Slavs as you seem to believe.

Slovens don't speak the most ancient language in Europe, that's a fact and the Veneti theory is based on thin air with no archaeological basis or findings whatsoever bar legends and guesses and words look or sound the same with the neighboring civilizations, it's like Greece claiming Atlantis civilization coz it's a Greek name, but we don't have something concrete to prove this now do we? That's what we have with the venetic theory, it's very sloppy work that claims that the whole Europe, modern Russia and the Middle East back then were speaking Slavic, it's an utter propagandist fail, no connection, no consistency, no findings, nothing, just guesses and plenty of brainstorming, but this is not how archaeology works for sure and fortunately.

It was promoted mostly in Slovenia during the 80's to challenge both the Slavic 6th century theory and the national consciousness of the people back then, an attempt to differ themselves from the rest of the Yugoslavian Slavs being so close to Italy and the influence that the Latin civilization which was heavily Hellenized after a point with all the pagan rituals, had in the region, that's why it was not followed by anyone around the world, it was mostly a propagandist tool and i was actually surprised hearing you mention it, it has been proven to be fail for 2 decades now.

The fact that some words of yours look or sound like Greek ones doesn't mean something imo, we've all being living in this region for ages and the Hellenization process back then was huge to say the least (i consider it to be the NWO of the time). Even modern English uses 20 thousand Greek words, 5 thousand of them used frequently/daily, all other Balkan neighboring languages and civilizations would have been influenced after so many years, it's inevitable.
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they are not greek words, mate, they are slavic ;)

the linguistic logic of words is slavic. and you know what, the whole indoeruopean lingustic logic is slavic too.
it is simply the older substratum of the romance and germanic languages
and yes, the greek language as well.
all of these languages contain of course also other, non slavonic words of phoenician or turkish origin.
i can assume why this is hard to swallow. because we all have been taught otherwise in our schools.

and i also think one of the main problems is that you have been brainwashed into your superiority towards the slavonic barbarians and are now offended because you feel like some dirty gipsy bastards are trying to climb into your house and fuck your mother ;)

but what if your ancestors were in fact such slavonic 'barbarians', mixed with some phoenicians.
oh noes, that would not be so dandy, right stoner

dont worry, i like greeks and greek culture, but i also think, we ought to pay attention also to our paleolithic ancestors, regardless of what we think by what names they called themselves...
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you have no clue...
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Clues are not required when it is already known who has committed the crime.

The time draws near.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


well, we know that our primer minister could panick and call in the nato forces. accidentally, they start they aero war games tomorrow, just above slovenia...

[link to web.vecer.com]

if nato forces would walk in, it would be viewed as occupation by civilians and that would not go well...

yes, we know nato is killing us allready from the sky with the aeroshit...

we have been genocided many times in history...
 Quoting: a 15099531


It will not be accidental, and the reason will be one of survival.

NATO is there for your protection. However, the forces that NATO is to fight are in control by the same masters.

After the Triple Bridge is left in ruin, the dragon will return to oversee what is left of your country.

Ljubljana is the only city of merit within Slovenia of mild importance, the rest is simply land to be overrun.

Your nation is a speed-bump, at best.
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NATO is NOT their for any ones protection. It's there to keep the Fourth Reich troops and it's empire in control of a nation which they DO NOT BELONG IN. If any of you people know about Hitler's NWO plan and have seen Hitler's map of how he wanted Europe to look, it's the EXACT same map that is now of Europe which is part of NATO's empire. After the communist countries broke apart (purposely done and supported by the western Nazi's) only to create weaker countries that would join the NATO empire. Once a country is broken apart, it becomes no longer a threat to NATO. NATO is the biggest propaganda machine, and the TRUE butcherer of lives and 'disolver' of legitimate and sovereign nations.

NATO IS THE NWO. SINCE 1949 WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE NWO.
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you have no clue...
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Clues are not required when it is already known who has committed the crime.

The time draws near.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


well, we know that our primer minister could panick and call in the nato forces. accidentally, they start they aero war games tomorrow, just above slovenia...

[link to web.vecer.com]

if nato forces would walk in, it would be viewed as occupation by civilians and that would not go well...

yes, we know nato is killing us allready from the sky with the aeroshit...

we have been genocided many times in history...
 Quoting: a 15099531


It will not be accidental, and the reason will be one of survival.

NATO is there for your protection. However, the forces that NATO is to fight are in control by the same masters.

After the Triple Bridge is left in ruin, the dragon will return to oversee what is left of your country.

Ljubljana is the only city of merit within Slovenia of mild importance, the rest is simply land to be overrun.

Your nation is a speed-bump, at best.
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yep, that exactly is the imperial logic we meet over and over again. you simply lack the mental abilities to understand our paleolithic shamanic logic. that is what all empires vanish, no matter how hard they try to genocide us...while we are still here with our paleolithic shamanic spirit...

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Clues are not required when it is already known who has committed the crime.

The time draws near.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


well, we know that our primer minister could panick and call in the nato forces. accidentally, they start they aero war games tomorrow, just above slovenia...

[link to web.vecer.com]

if nato forces would walk in, it would be viewed as occupation by civilians and that would not go well...

yes, we know nato is killing us allready from the sky with the aeroshit...

we have been genocided many times in history...
 Quoting: a 15099531


It will not be accidental, and the reason will be one of survival.

NATO is there for your protection. However, the forces that NATO is to fight are in control by the same masters.

After the Triple Bridge is left in ruin, the dragon will return to oversee what is left of your country.

Ljubljana is the only city of merit within Slovenia of mild importance, the rest is simply land to be overrun.

Your nation is a speed-bump, at best.
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NATO is NOT their for any ones protection. It's there to keep the Fourth Reich troops and it's empire in control of a nation which they DO NOT BELONG IN. If any of you people know about Hitler's NWO plan and have seen Hitler's map of how he wanted Europe to look, it's the EXACT same map that is now of Europe which is part of NATO's empire. After the communist countries broke apart (purposely done and supported by the western Nazi's) only to create weaker countries that would join the NATO empire. Once a country is broken apart, it becomes no longer a threat to NATO. NATO is the biggest propaganda machine, and the TRUE butcherer of lives and 'disolver' of legitimate and sovereign nations.

NATO IS THE NWO. SINCE 1949 WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE NWO.
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yes, nato is the continuation of the nazi reich. so they better not come here in large numbers, it will become nasty and sooner or later they will have to leave. we have a traditional vendeta against empire occupation in our veins...
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[link to enough14.org]
an austrian article on the situation. one of the rare foreign articles, austria being our northern neighbour.
croatians, our southern neighbours also published an article about it
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Mayor was the last straw. He made millions probably for himself (not to mentions he is suspected of similar things allready) with installing 1 traffic radar per 3000 residents. And since Maribor is worker city whitout work and money this was it. [...]
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So the goal of this revolution is to be allowed to drive too fast through the city? And you all have no jobs, nevertheless you can afford to race around with your cars all day long?

Btw, the official unemployment rate of Slovenia is 8.5 %.
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no, that was the last drop, that spiled the water over the bucket.

the radars were just the last nail into our financial coffin. low unemployment rate is artificial, because there are some bureaucratic maneuvers, that readjust the qualifications.
we have shity times and many people look romantically back on the socialist times, when nobody was stinking rich and noone was starving. now, we have some stinky rich bastards that stole our country, but over one half of people is struggling for thei everyday life.

in the last year, many lost their social money, kids dont get to eat in schools any more, but on the other hand, the mayor of maribor bought 100 radars only to pull the last money out of the mariborian pockets. this was a direct attack on their existence.

and because it is just the last economic attack on us, while we can allready hardly keep up, it was too much and obviously, people have woken up in such masses, that such an enlightened revolt is possible.

next days and weeks will be problematic, because the system will try to do everything it can think of to distract us and make us forget the problems and quit the protests. what they don't realise is we actually dont have a choice and we know it. they want us to forget that and fall asleep back. they know we cannot keep up with their 'reforms' and that the reforms are meant to strangulate us, so that the foreign banks can rob our country freely. but they dont like us knowing ot, because that kills all their magic, and that is what they are doing, they are hypnotising us in some flashy disneyland, while they are poisoning our bodies and robbing our property...
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I'm not putting my foot into Venetism thingy, but I can confirm what my fellow countryman/woman said about those unfortunate speed radars. They were just the last straw that broke the proverbial camel's back.

They were way overpriced, installed in places where there are practically no accidents, where speed limit is set too low or not clearly stated, and the contract stipulates that 92% of money collected goes into the pockets of a private firm (public-private partnership), which could explain the real reason for installing the radars in that particular place. Firms want investments to pay off, don't they?And citizens are milk cows in this business model, right? lala

As the mayor has a substantial record of mismanaging (and that's a mild word, mind you) of the public funds, people were naturally suspicious of this contract. They peacefully demanded his resignation, then set radars on fire, but all they acchieved was that he was elected into a state council instead (with immunity). Still no resignation. wtf


That said, the protests are not about the Maribor shenannigans at all. In its 20 years of independence, the country has been abducted by the greedy elite that has the left and the right politicians on the leash. Clientelism, corruption, nepotism, you name it, we have it. It's in our face, we can't do anything about it, since an honest person would not even consider smearing his/her good name with entering into politics. It's a downward spiral, if you want. So, Maribor gained support from other Slovenian towns and people immediately organized (FB, twitter) 10 or so protests in all major towns.

Perhaps they were not so violent, perhaps they attracted from your point of view insignificant number of protesters but I have to emphasize one thing: It is as far as I know unique self-organized movement that has united voters from left and from right provenience that are fed up with BS they feed us. People are slowly starting to see the ancient divide and conquer tricks that keep us busy while they're stealing the carpets from under our chairs.


And for the first time in 20 years, we saw a hint of fear in their eyes, I'm talking about that healthy fear that every politician should have from his/her voters. We were used to "Yeah, we made a mistake but look what the other ones're doing", textbook misdirection, and most likely "Voters? Fuck'em!" while amongst themselves. dubya 1dunno1

Maybe that's why at BBC, they don't want to tell the truth (or they don't know?)that these protests are NOT against the austerity measures? Dangerous ideas? Don't want "the Maribor virus" to spread? Idol1

Most protesters don't really have unrealistic hopes for what changes the protests will bring. But it's a start and it's high time that we put some pressure on those, who are supposed to be there to represent us. gives

I'm sorry for the lenghthy wall of text but perhaps some of you might be interested in what's going on in our neck of the woods. And you'll be informed if, godforbid, you hear about us on the news (means all hell broke loose).

And to really make it a geniune GLP topic: Major national protest in Ljubljana is scheduled on 21st December 2012. Yeah, folks, you heard it, the apocalypse starts in Slovenia. rockon end byekitty