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well, we know that our primer minister could panick and call in the nato forces. accidentally, they start they aero war games tomorrow, just above slovenia...

[link to web.vecer.com]

if nato forces would walk in, it would be viewed as occupation by civilians and that would not go well...

yes, we know nato is killing us allready from the sky with the aeroshit...

we have been genocided many times in history...
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It will not be accidental, and the reason will be one of survival.

NATO is there for your protection. However, the forces that NATO is to fight are in control by the same masters.

After the Triple Bridge is left in ruin, the dragon will return to oversee what is left of your country.

Ljubljana is the only city of merit within Slovenia of mild importance, the rest is simply land to be overrun.

Your nation is a speed-bump, at best.
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NATO is NOT their for any ones protection. It's there to keep the Fourth Reich troops and it's empire in control of a nation which they DO NOT BELONG IN. If any of you people know about Hitler's NWO plan and have seen Hitler's map of how he wanted Europe to look, it's the EXACT same map that is now of Europe which is part of NATO's empire. After the communist countries broke apart (purposely done and supported by the western Nazi's) only to create weaker countries that would join the NATO empire. Once a country is broken apart, it becomes no longer a threat to NATO. NATO is the biggest propaganda machine, and the TRUE butcherer of lives and 'disolver' of legitimate and sovereign nations.

NATO IS THE NWO. SINCE 1949 WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE NWO.
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yes, nato is the continuation of the nazi reich. so they better not come here in large numbers, it will become nasty and sooner or later they will have to leave. we have a traditional vendeta against empire occupation in our veins...
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The Partisans kicked the Third Reich's ass. They'll do the same to the Fourth.
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first international news, not coming from our immediate neighbourhood


al jazeera



russian tv



if you can't see the videos, click "quote button" ans look at the link...

about the presidential elections, by BBC - it does not say, only 25 % of voters came to vote. also, it does not say, that the results are most probably fake, because it was a big movement to boykot the elections with the third, non existent option, namely "gotov si!" - menaning, you are done!

but the percentage was as usual, which makes me think the elections were fake. also, there were reports of voting papers being swapped...
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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mmm didn't know.. Keep us updated..
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first international news, not coming from our immediate neighbourhood


al jazeera



russian tv



if you can't see the videos, click "quote button" ans look at the link...

about the presidential elections, by BBC - it does not say, only 25 % of voters came to vote. also, it does not say, that the results are most probably fake, because it was a big movement to boykot the elections with the third, non existent option, namely "gotov si!" - menaning, you are done!

but the percentage was as usual, which makes me think the elections were fake. also, there were reports of voting papers being swapped...
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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UGH!!!! That does it, I'm writing a complaint letter to BBC! Totally unprofessional, I'd rather they didn't mention it than get it all wrong!!!! Since when does corruption of the country's elite = austerity measures?

Many thanks for the thread and the links, fellow Slovenian!

I'll come to the protests again, the least we can do is to force tptb to adopt gov. official impeachment bill (petition at www.cuvar.si).

Stay safe!


FERTIK SO! GOTOVI SO!

resist


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I know it's a bit OT, just wanted to set the record straight, no need to post more things about it like the facts you did coz i gave this a serious read back then when i learned about this theory (wouldn't challenge you otherwise) and it's complete nonfactual BS promoted for propagandist reasons mostly in Slovenia during the 80's, i agree about the official and unofficial history but the Venetic theory is not supported even by truthseekers and non-mainstream archaeologists and historians all around the world except from some Slav ones, no one else, nothing truth-seeking about it, just a Slavic nonfactual propagandist fairytale.
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well, being Greek, it is possible you are being offended, for our pointing out, that the world did not begin with Paris and Helen ;)
we acutally have many similarities with the greeks, and also historical contact although only after the contacts with the phoenicians were broken.

even in the official interpretation of history, nobody can deny, that our customs and traditions are preroman and that they are native to the country. we have a dionisiac divinity for instance, there are name relations like sybile - sembila, kuretes - kurenti, delphi - devin, silvan - silen, semela - zemla, and also word relation, like mogila - gomila etc.
traditions can vary here a lot from valley to valley, just like in ancient greece. in some parts the music is ionic, in some parts doric, in some eolic, in some frigian, in some pentatonic...
even the official historians admit, there had to be a certain continuation, for we have no traditions of some other homeland. our legends speak of the God Kurent (dyonisus) saved us after the deluge with a vine at the northern adriatic beach...
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Not offended my mate, just having a chat coz i'm fascinated and read a lot about archaeology since very young age, one of my favorite hobbies. History didn't start with Paris off course but most certainly didn't start with the Slavs as you seem to believe.

Slovens don't speak the most ancient language in Europe, that's a fact and the Veneti theory is based on thin air with no archaeological basis or findings whatsoever bar legends and guesses and words look or sound the same with the neighboring civilizations, it's like Greece claiming Atlantis civilization coz it's a Greek name, but we don't have something concrete to prove this now do we? That's what we have with the venetic theory, it's very sloppy work that claims that the whole Europe, modern Russia and the Middle East back then were speaking Slavic, it's an utter propagandist fail, no connection, no consistency, no findings, nothing, just guesses and plenty of brainstorming, but this is not how archaeology works for sure and fortunately.

It was promoted mostly in Slovenia during the 80's to challenge both the Slavic 6th century theory and the national consciousness of the people back then, an attempt to differ themselves from the rest of the Yugoslavian Slavs being so close to Italy and the influence that the Latin civilization which was heavily Hellenized after a point with all the pagan rituals, had in the region, that's why it was not followed by anyone around the world, it was mostly a propagandist tool and i was actually surprised hearing you mention it, it has been proven to be fail for 2 decades now.

The fact that some words of yours look or sound like Greek ones doesn't mean something imo, we've all being living in this region for ages and the Hellenization process back then was huge to say the least (i consider it to be the NWO of the time). Even modern English uses 20 thousand Greek words, 5 thousand of them used frequently/daily, all other Balkan neighboring languages and civilizations would have been influenced after so many years, it's inevitable.
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they are not greek words, mate, they are slavic ;)

the linguistic logic of words is slavic. and you know what, the whole indoeruopean lingustic logic is slavic too.
it is simply the older substratum of the romance and germanic languages
and yes, the greek language as well.
all of these languages contain of course also other, non slavonic words of phoenician or turkish origin.
i can assume why this is hard to swallow. because we all have been taught otherwise in our schools.

and i also think one of the main problems is that you have been brainwashed into your superiority towards the slavonic barbarians and are now offended because you feel like some dirty gipsy bastards are trying to climb into your house and fuck your mother ;)

but what if your ancestors were in fact such slavonic 'barbarians', mixed with some phoenicians.
oh noes, that would not be so dandy, right stoner

dont worry, i like greeks and greek culture, but i also think, we ought to pay attention also to our paleolithic ancestors, regardless of what we think by what names they called themselves...
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Slavs gonna Slav, hehe, it's what they do, the only peoples that do archaeology with "linguistic logic" and words looking alike totally neglecting archaeological findings and sites and real linguistic evidence and then claiming that the Slovenes and Slavs created the first European civilization at 1500 BC, loooool, when they haven't found a single piece of evidence backing this claim up. I know you tard these ain't Greek words coz i only know one that could remind me of something, i was just pointing out that this isn't how archaeology works, with words looking alike so we go straight to the claim that Slovenes gave birth to Greek/Roman and western civilizations, lol, lets neglect civilizations like the Minoan and Cycladic ones going back to 5000 BC with their hieroglyphics and the connection they had with the ancient Egyptians, not to mention that Proto-Greek language goes back to 3000 BC with actual evidence backing this up.

Anyway, you have proven your massive ignorance OP, Veneti theory is quasi-archaeology at best that started in the 80's by a Slovene high school teacher, author and self-declared historian called Josko Savli, possibly on govt payroll with no archaeological evidence whatsoever, just pure nationalistic crap like the ones you're posting here, the Slovene Sitchin hehe, so stick with rioting OP, coz archaeology obviously ain't your forte, we would have know if the world was created by Slovenes, read a proper book to educate yourself with something of importance than just poor attempted propaganda while you are at it OP and leave my mama out of this you immature tard. Obvious uneducated fail is obvious.

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Slovenia is the land between Vienna and Venice, cities, that both carry the name of our ancestors, the Vendi, as the austrians still call us. Vendi, Veneti, is the name of the ancient - paleolithic - native european nation, the ancestors of the Celts, the Sarmatians and the Slavonics.
their language was the protoindoeuropeans, meaning, that slovenians still today have the most archaic language in europe, closest to vedic sanskrit.
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Sorry OP but i'm calling BS on this one, the Venetic theory is a universally rejected historical anachronistic fail. Took the time to read about it some years ago tbh and it's not strange at all that it's universally rejected by all scholars and archaeologists and is accepted only by some Slavs, goes as far as saying that the Greek and Roman alphabet/language/civilizations and pretty much the whole European ones came from the Slavs.
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look, this is not a thread about history. i only tell you what here people believe. some poeple of course also prefer to believe official scholars and we have some such poeple here as well. but for discovering the truth, official 'truths' are to be taken with a grain of salt, specially when history is in question.
so let's stick by facts and leave the interpretation to all individuals.

1. there is some 25%-40% genetic continuity from the european paleolithic
2. there is a genetic relation between balkan slavs and indian brahmans, minimally 10.000 years old
3. in the gravetien - the ice age (from circa 30.000 - 10.000 bc)there was a culture in the area from France to Crimea, meaning from Krain to Ukraine (notice the name similarity) kraj = place, end
4. after the ice age, when the sea level rose and coverd the until then fertile valleyy, 1ooo settlemenst were established around the alps, having similar geological and climate predispositions as the Adriatic valley during the ice age. they wer the first european farmers and goat breeders
5. the culture of Vinca was established, being the first metalurgic centre in europe
6. veneti, the first settled culture, spread all over europe
7. veneti were considered the ancestors of the celts in france
8. the most common english name Bennett derived from Venet (we say Benetke - Venice)
9.russian legend speak of their ancestors coming from the Danube region
10. the balkan is linguistically the origin of slavonics
11. slovenian language is the most archaic of slavonic languages, which are most connected to sanksrit as the y belogn to the satem group of ie languages
12. the balkan festivals and traditions are paleolithic in origin, shamanism, natural magic, matriarchy, sun worship and many songs and traditions of the sort were still very much alive in the 19th and 20 th century.
13, Mario Alinei,an Italian linguist, has proven, that slovenian language is the basis of many latin and german words, meaning,m that our ancestors were already here, when the romans came
14. there is no plausible explanation, when could the slovenes settle slovenia. there was no historical settlement, and the roman / greek sources speak of the high antiquity of the people, living here.
The official history is namely full of unexplainble holes. more than half of europe is supposed to vanish and be replaced by some unknown people, coming from some uninhabitable marshes. it suited the imperial forces, who invented these theory of a slavonic late historical settlement, but it cannpot withstand a rational review of history.
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Nice one,

I didn't know that, keep the protest on, I support you fully. The same we should do here in Croatia again.

Greetings from Neighborhood
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about the presidential elections, by BBC - it does not say, only 25 % of voters came to vote. also, it does not say, that the results are most probably fake
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All elections across the world are fake. Performance for sheep.
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The title of the thread is vastly exaggerated. There is nothing going on even remotely similar to what is happening in Spain or Greece.

Secondly, it is a country of merely two million people. Hell, a daily migration in and out of any major European city most likely greatly exceeds this number. In short - it is insignificant.

And that's what Slovenia is - insignificant. I can't believe this thread got more than a page long.
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well, being Greek, it is possible you are being offended, for our pointing out, that the world did not begin with Paris and Helen ;)
we acutally have many similarities with the greeks, and also historical contact although only after the contacts with the phoenicians were broken.

even in the official interpretation of history, nobody can deny, that our customs and traditions are preroman and that they are native to the country. we have a dionisiac divinity for instance, there are name relations like sybile - sembila, kuretes - kurenti, delphi - devin, silvan - silen, semela - zemla, and also word relation, like mogila - gomila etc.
traditions can vary here a lot from valley to valley, just like in ancient greece. in some parts the music is ionic, in some parts doric, in some eolic, in some frigian, in some pentatonic...
even the official historians admit, there had to be a certain continuation, for we have no traditions of some other homeland. our legends speak of the God Kurent (dyonisus) saved us after the deluge with a vine at the northern adriatic beach...
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Not offended my mate, just having a chat coz i'm fascinated and read a lot about archaeology since very young age, one of my favorite hobbies. History didn't start with Paris off course but most certainly didn't start with the Slavs as you seem to believe.

Slovens don't speak the most ancient language in Europe, that's a fact and the Veneti theory is based on thin air with no archaeological basis or findings whatsoever bar legends and guesses and words look or sound the same with the neighboring civilizations, it's like Greece claiming Atlantis civilization coz it's a Greek name, but we don't have something concrete to prove this now do we? That's what we have with the venetic theory, it's very sloppy work that claims that the whole Europe, modern Russia and the Middle East back then were speaking Slavic, it's an utter propagandist fail, no connection, no consistency, no findings, nothing, just guesses and plenty of brainstorming, but this is not how archaeology works for sure and fortunately.

It was promoted mostly in Slovenia during the 80's to challenge both the Slavic 6th century theory and the national consciousness of the people back then, an attempt to differ themselves from the rest of the Yugoslavian Slavs being so close to Italy and the influence that the Latin civilization which was heavily Hellenized after a point with all the pagan rituals, had in the region, that's why it was not followed by anyone around the world, it was mostly a propagandist tool and i was actually surprised hearing you mention it, it has been proven to be fail for 2 decades now.

The fact that some words of yours look or sound like Greek ones doesn't mean something imo, we've all being living in this region for ages and the Hellenization process back then was huge to say the least (i consider it to be the NWO of the time). Even modern English uses 20 thousand Greek words, 5 thousand of them used frequently/daily, all other Balkan neighboring languages and civilizations would have been influenced after so many years, it's inevitable.
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they are not greek words, mate, they are slavic ;)

the linguistic logic of words is slavic. and you know what, the whole indoeruopean lingustic logic is slavic too.
it is simply the older substratum of the romance and germanic languages
and yes, the greek language as well.
all of these languages contain of course also other, non slavonic words of phoenician or turkish origin.
i can assume why this is hard to swallow. because we all have been taught otherwise in our schools.

and i also think one of the main problems is that you have been brainwashed into your superiority towards the slavonic barbarians and are now offended because you feel like some dirty gipsy bastards are trying to climb into your house and fuck your mother ;)

but what if your ancestors were in fact such slavonic 'barbarians', mixed with some phoenicians.
oh noes, that would not be so dandy, right stoner

dont worry, i like greeks and greek culture, but i also think, we ought to pay attention also to our paleolithic ancestors, regardless of what we think by what names they called themselves...
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Slavs gonna Slav, hehe, it's what they do, the only peoples that do archaeology with "linguistic logic" and words looking alike totally neglecting archaeological findings and sites and real linguistic evidence and then claiming that the Slovenes and Slavs created the first European civilization at 1500 BC, loooool, when they haven't found a single piece of evidence backing this claim up. I know you tard these ain't Greek words coz i only know one that could remind me of something, i was just pointing out that this isn't how archaeology works, with words looking alike so we go straight to the claim that Slovenes gave birth to Greek/Roman and western civilizations, lol, lets neglect civilizations like the Minoan and Cycladic ones going back to 5000 BC with their hieroglyphics and the connection they had with the ancient Egyptians, not to mention that Proto-Greek language goes back to 3000 BC with actual evidence backing this up.

Anyway, you have proven your massive ignorance OP, Veneti theory is quasi-archaeology at best that started in the 80's by a Slovene high school teacher, author and self-declared historian called Josko Savli, possibly on govt payroll with no archaeological evidence whatsoever, just pure nationalistic crap like the ones you're posting here, the Slovene Sitchin hehe, so stick with rioting OP, coz archaeology obviously ain't your forte, we would have know if the world was created by Slovenes, read a proper book to educate yourself with something of importance than just poor attempted propaganda while you are at it OP and leave my mama out of this you immature tard. Obvious uneducated fail is obvious.

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gravettien
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

alpine cultures
[link to whc.unesco.org]

the oldest wooden wheel on the planet
[link to www.koliscar.si]

vinca
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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gravettien
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

alpine cultures
[link to whc.unesco.org]

the oldest wooden wheel on the planet
[link to www.koliscar.si]

vinca
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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chuckle
Poor OP is desperate. All hail Slovenia, mother of all European civilizations, what a shithole our world would have been without these crafty ancient Slovenians that were "discovered" by amateur historians from Slovenia based on naive linguistic derivations and interpretations.

You're obviously confused too as it seems OP, you showing me a pile-dwelling or civilizations 30 thousand years old mixing it up with Veneti and whatever suits your argument, (wheel-toys have been found in the ME dating back to 7000-9000BC btw, nevermind the whole temples, palaces and cities of the same age been discovered there) this is a total different thing than claiming that the Slovenians gave light to this world and to the Greek/Romans at 1500-1000 BC as the Veneti theory claims, so no need for links dude, i've read multi-page documents and analyses on this "Veneti theory" and i would suggest you do the same, a simple google-search of these words preferably in english (coz i understand that this lunatic theory is popular among some Slovenian ignorants) would have helped you find factual archaeological documents (plenty of them out there) debunking this theory as naive nationalistic Slovenian identity crisis crap, so as i said study and read something of importance by yourself, this theory started in the middle 80's by a self-declared Slovenian historian that was studying economics his whole life, no connection with history just linguistic ignorance, so much fail in it it actually hurts seeing you posting this shit here. Paleolithic civilizations have nothing to do with the failed Veneti theory.

No worries though OP, this thing happens to every new nation with identity crisis and minimum heritage, it will go away at some point, i promise. :)
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Correct.

As stated before, a speed-bump to be run over, at best
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in maribor its still not finished yet.

I was there lol
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Hy, here more videos - watch on our web page: [link to www.24ur.com]

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gravettien
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

alpine cultures
[link to whc.unesco.org]

the oldest wooden wheel on the planet
[link to www.koliscar.si]

vinca
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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chuckle
Poor OP is desperate. All hail Slovenia, mother of all European civilizations, what a shithole our world would have been without these crafty ancient Slovenians that were "discovered" by amateur historians from Slovenia based on naive linguistic derivations and interpretations.

You're obviously confused too as it seems OP, you showing me a pile-dwelling or civilizations 30 thousand years old mixing it up with Veneti and whatever suits your argument, (wheel-toys have been found in the ME dating back to 7000-9000BC btw, nevermind the whole temples, palaces and cities of the same age been discovered there) this is a total different thing than claiming that the Slovenians gave light to this world and to the Greek/Romans at 1500-1000 BC as the Veneti theory claims, so no need for links dude, i've read multi-page documents and analyses on this "Veneti theory" and i would suggest you do the same, a simple google-search of these words preferably in english (coz i understand that this lunatic theory is popular among some Slovenian ignorants) would have helped you find factual archaeological documents (plenty of them out there) debunking this theory as naive nationalistic Slovenian identity crisis crap, so as i said study and read something of importance by yourself, this theory started in the middle 80's by a self-declared Slovenian historian that was studying economics his whole life, no connection with history just linguistic ignorance, so much fail in it it actually hurts seeing you posting this shit here. Paleolithic civilizations have nothing to do with the failed Veneti theory.

No worries though OP, this thing happens to every new nation with identity crisis and minimum heritage, it will go away at some point, i promise. :)
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sure, i m desperado :) i just got told that my old little country is not so important to others as it is to us...

and that modern Greeks are unquestionably connected to ancient Greeks, while the modern Kraini have absolutely no connection to the ancient Karni...what a shame flower


"...As for the witnesses whom I shall produce for the proof of what I say, they shall be such as are esteemed to be of the greatest reputation for truth, and the most skillful in the knowledge of all antiquity by the Greeks themselves. I will also show, that those who have written so reproachfully and falsely about us are to be convicted by what they have written themselves to the contrary. I shall also endeavor to give an account of the reasons why it hath so happened, that there have not been a great number of Greeks who have made mention of our nation in their histories. I will, however, bring those Grecians to light who have not omitted such our history, for the sake of those that either do not know them, or pretend not to know them already.

2. And now, in the first place, I cannot but greatly wonder at those men, who suppose that we must attend to none but Grecians, when we are inquiring about the most ancient facts, and must inform ourselves of their truth from them only, while we must not believe ourselves nor other men; for I am convinced that the very reverse is the truth of the case. I mean this,—if we will not be led by vain opinions, but will make inquiry after truth from facts themselves; for they will find that almost all which concerns the Greeks happened not long ago; nay, one may say, is of yesterday only. I speak of the building of their cities, the inventions of their arts, and the description of their laws; and as for their care about the writing down of their histories, it is very near the last thing they set about. However, they acknowledge themselves so far, that they were the Egyptians, the Chaldeans, and the Phoenicians (for I will not now reckon ourselves among them) that have preserved the memorials of the most ancient and most lasting traditions of mankind; for almost all these nations inhabit such countries as are least subject to destruction from the world about them; and these also have taken especial care to have nothing omitted of what was [remarkably] done among them; but their history was esteemed sacred, and put into public tables, as written by men of the greatest wisdom they had among them. But as for the place where the Grecians inhabit, ten thousand destructions have overtaken it, and blotted out the memory of former actions; so that they were ever beginning a new way of living, and supposed that every one of them was the origin of their new state. It was also late, and with difficulty, that they came to know the letters they now use; for those who would advance their use of these letters to the greatest antiquity pretend that they learned them from the Phoenicians and from Cadmus; yet is nobody able to demonstrate that they have any writing preserved from that time, neither in their temples, nor in any other public monuments. This appears, because the time when those lived who went to the Trojan war, so many years afterward, is in great doubt, and great inquiry is made, whether the Greeks used their letters at that time; and the most prevailing opinion, and that nearest the truth, is, that their present way of using those letters was unknown at that time. However, there is not any writing which the Greeks agree to be genuine among them ancienter than Homer's Poems, who must plainly he confessed later than the siege of Troy; nay, the report goes, that even he did not leave his poems in writing, but that their memory was preserved in songs, and they were put together afterward, and that this is the reason of such a number of variations as are found in them. 3 As for those who set themselves about writing their histories, I mean such as Cadmus of Miletus, and Acusilaus of Argos, and any others that may be mentioned as succeeding Acusilaus, they lived but a little while before the Persian expedition into Greece. But then for those that first introduced philosophy, and the consideration of things celestial and divine among them, such as Pherceydes the Syrian, and Pythagoras, and Thales, all with one consent agree, that they learned what they knew of the Egyptians and Chaldeans, and wrote but little And these are the things which are supposed to be the oldest of all among the Greeks; and they have much ado to believe that the writings ascribed to those men are genuine.

3. How can it then be other than an absurd thing, for the Greeks to be so proud, and to vaunt themselves to be the only people that are acquainted with antiquity, and that have delivered the true accounts of those early times after an accurate manner? Nay, who is there that cannot easily gather from the Greek writers themselves, that they knew but little on any good foundation when they set to write, but rather wrote their histories from their own conjectures? Accordingly, they confute one another in their own books to purpose, and are not ashamed. to give us the most contradictory accounts of the same things; and I should spend my time to little purpose, if I should pretend to teach the Greeks that which they know better than I already, what a great disagreement there is between Hellanicus and Acusilaus about their genealogies; in how many eases Acusilaus corrects Hesiod: or after what manner Ephorus demonstrates Hellanicus to have told lies in the greatest part of his history; as does Timeus in like manner as to Ephorus, and the succeeding writers do to Timeus, and all the later writers do to Herodotus nor could Timeus agree with Antiochus and Philistius, or with Callias, about the Sicilian History, no more than do the several writers of the Athide follow one another about the Athenian affairs; nor do the historians the like, that wrote the Argolics, about the affairs of the Argives. And now what need I say any more about particular cities and smaller places, while in the most approved writers of the expedition of the Persians, and of the actions which were therein performed, there are so great differences? Nay, Thucydides himself is accused of some as writing what is false, although he seems to have given us the exactest history of the affairs of his own time. 4

4. As for the occasions of so great disagreement of theirs, there may be assigned many that are very probable, if any have a mind to make an inquiry about them..."
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Correct.

As stated before, a speed-bump to be run over, at best
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don't be foolish...


WWII - Slovenia - 4 years
During the war, the Italian formation had about 1,500 casualties, the German around 6000
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Iraq - 4804
Afghanistan - 3234
coalition casualties total
[link to icasualties.org]
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Waka Waka e e



no agression no change
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The title of the thread is vastly exaggerated. There is nothing going on even remotely similar to what is happening in Spain or Greece.

Secondly, it is a country of merely two million people. Hell, a daily migration in and out of any major European city most likely greatly exceeds this number. In short - it is insignificant.

And that's what Slovenia is - insignificant. I can't believe this thread got more than a page long.
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oh, and yes, we have an ancient tradition of foreign & domestic secret agencies & petty agents activities...

every net forum in slovenia is full of shills, just like glp...
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yesterday
the protest in maribor (european capital of culture 2012)
turned violent again...

if you don't see the video here, click the quote button...
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See here, how the mayor's new radars are handled in Maribor...





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Thousands protested in the country’s second city, Maribor, just a day after a new president was elected on a campaign ticket that said the cuts were inevitable....
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yesterday clashes


if you dont see it, click the quote button..
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well, we know that our primer minister could panick and call in the nato forces. accidentally, they start they aero war games tomorrow, just above slovenia...

[link to web.vecer.com]

if nato forces would walk in, it would be viewed as occupation by civilians and that would not go well...

yes, we know nato is killing us allready from the sky with the aeroshit...

we have been genocided many times in history...
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It will not be accidental, and the reason will be one of survival.

NATO is there for your protection. However, the forces that NATO is to fight are in control by the same masters.

After the Triple Bridge is left in ruin, the dragon will return to oversee what is left of your country.

Ljubljana is the only city of merit within Slovenia of mild importance, the rest is simply land to be overrun.

Your nation is a speed-bump, at best.
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NATO is NOT their for any ones protection. It's there to keep the Fourth Reich troops and it's empire in control of a nation which they DO NOT BELONG IN. If any of you people know about Hitler's NWO plan and have seen Hitler's map of how he wanted Europe to look, it's the EXACT same map that is now of Europe which is part of NATO's empire. After the communist countries broke apart (purposely done and supported by the western Nazi's) only to create weaker countries that would join the NATO empire. Once a country is broken apart, it becomes no longer a threat to NATO. NATO is the biggest propaganda machine, and the TRUE butcherer of lives and 'disolver' of legitimate and sovereign nations.

NATO IS THE NWO. SINCE 1949 WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE NWO.
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yes, nato is the continuation of the nazi reich. so they better not come here in large numbers, it will become nasty and sooner or later they will have to leave. we have a traditional vendeta against empire occupation in our veins...
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... nato is usa to keep the east and europe in place..
watch what happens when nato fails then u got ur
4th re ich.. u people don't know what is coming thinking it's all bad now..
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this is what it was looking yesterday

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keep an eye on that.


bump

[link to www.sloveniatimes.com]
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It will not be accidental, and the reason will be one of survival.

NATO is there for your protection. However, the forces that NATO is to fight are in control by the same masters.

After the Triple Bridge is left in ruin, the dragon will return to oversee what is left of your country.

Ljubljana is the only city of merit within Slovenia of mild importance, the rest is simply land to be overrun.

Your nation is a speed-bump, at best.
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NATO is NOT their for any ones protection. It's there to keep the Fourth Reich troops and it's empire in control of a nation which they DO NOT BELONG IN. If any of you people know about Hitler's NWO plan and have seen Hitler's map of how he wanted Europe to look, it's the EXACT same map that is now of Europe which is part of NATO's empire. After the communist countries broke apart (purposely done and supported by the western Nazi's) only to create weaker countries that would join the NATO empire. Once a country is broken apart, it becomes no longer a threat to NATO. NATO is the biggest propaganda machine, and the TRUE butcherer of lives and 'disolver' of legitimate and sovereign nations.

NATO IS THE NWO. SINCE 1949 WE HAVE BEEN LIVING IN THE NWO.
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yes, nato is the continuation of the nazi reich. so they better not come here in large numbers, it will become nasty and sooner or later they will have to leave. we have a traditional vendeta against empire occupation in our veins...
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... nato is usa to keep the east and europe in place..
watch what happens when nato fails then u got ur
4th re ich.. u people don't know what is coming thinking it's all bad now..
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don't you worry stoner

no turks, no murks...

The fortress is famous for the victory of the joint forces of Croats and Carniolans (Slovenes) over the Turks in 1593, known as the Battle of Sisak. It was one of the early significant defeats of the up-to-then invincible Turkish army on European territory.
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here the comparsion of slovenia and new york


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slovenia 2 millions, 211 mayors and over 3300 undermayor helpers helper. New york over 8 million and 1 Mayor 51 undermayors

so can someone calculate here the percentage rate anyhow

2 millions with 3543 Mayors vs. 8 Million and 52 Mayors.

You see the difference ?? You wonder where all the european money goes ?
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here the comparsion of slovenia and new york


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slovenia 2 millions, 211 mayors and over 3300 undermayor helpers helper. New york over 8 million and 1 Mayor 51 undermayors

so can someone calculate here the percentage rate anyhow

2 millions with 3543 Mayors vs. 8 Million and 52 Mayors.

You see the difference ?? You wonder where all the european money goes ?
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well, that could be fixed with mayors not being payed voluntaries. That would be even better. NY does not have the best system. it is kind of imperial. fuck empires...
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there are rumors that the maribor church does not let Kangler to step of. When he steps of every Mayor in slovenia should step of. So the riots will go on


This is the maribor church council, which also had a scandal last year with over 800million dollar dept to the vatican.


[link to translate.googleusercontent.com]

perhaps something to do with that
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there are rumors that the maribor church does not let Kangler to step of. When he steps of every Mayor in slovenia should step of. So the riots will go on


This is the maribor church council, which also had a scandal last year with over 800million dollar dept to the vatican.


[link to translate.googleusercontent.com]

perhaps something to do with that
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there are rumors that the maribor church does not let Kangler to step of. When he steps of every Mayor in slovenia should step of. So the riots will go on


This is the maribor church council, which also had a scandal last year with over 800million dollar dept to the vatican.


[link to translate.googleusercontent.com]

perhaps something to do with that
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hmm...
you just might be right...

There's a small diocese that's troubled pope Benedict XVI's sleep over the past few weeks. A church that holds a secret that could ruin the Vatican. This time we're not dealing with the American or the Irish curiae involved in the paedophile priest scandals. Or with the Italian clergy involved in the legal investigations of the "clique" headed by Angelo Balducci and on the alleged Vatican Bank recycling discovered by Bankitalia. The basilica that distresses Joseph Ratzinger and his right-hand men, Tarcisio Bertone above all, is that of Maribor, a small city in northern Slovenia famous for hosting a World Cup slalom race.
[link to espresso.repubblica.it]


Church officials in Slovenia have downplayed reports that the Maribor archdiocese, nestled in a popular Alpine skiing destination, is facing what an Italian media outlet described as “one of the most devastating financial disasters in the history of the church” and a potential scandal that “makes the pope tremble.”
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