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CENTRAL EUROPE EXPLODING........psssst!!!!!

 
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well, being Greek, it is possible you are being offended, for our pointing out, that the world did not begin with Paris and Helen ;)
we acutally have many similarities with the greeks, and also historical contact although only after the contacts with the phoenicians were broken.

even in the official interpretation of history, nobody can deny, that our customs and traditions are preroman and that they are native to the country. we have a dionisiac divinity for instance, there are name relations like sybile - sembila, kuretes - kurenti, delphi - devin, silvan - silen, semela - zemla, and also word relation, like mogila - gomila etc.
traditions can vary here a lot from valley to valley, just like in ancient greece. in some parts the music is ionic, in some parts doric, in some eolic, in some frigian, in some pentatonic...
even the official historians admit, there had to be a certain continuation, for we have no traditions of some other homeland. our legends speak of the God Kurent (dyonisus) saved us after the deluge with a vine at the northern adriatic beach...
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Not offended my mate, just having a chat coz i'm fascinated and read a lot about archaeology since very young age, one of my favorite hobbies. History didn't start with Paris off course but most certainly didn't start with the Slavs as you seem to believe.

Slovens don't speak the most ancient language in Europe, that's a fact and the Veneti theory is based on thin air with no archaeological basis or findings whatsoever bar legends and guesses and words look or sound the same with the neighboring civilizations, it's like Greece claiming Atlantis civilization coz it's a Greek name, but we don't have something concrete to prove this now do we? That's what we have with the venetic theory, it's very sloppy work that claims that the whole Europe, modern Russia and the Middle East back then were speaking Slavic, it's an utter propagandist fail, no connection, no consistency, no findings, nothing, just guesses and plenty of brainstorming, but this is not how archaeology works for sure and fortunately.

It was promoted mostly in Slovenia during the 80's to challenge both the Slavic 6th century theory and the national consciousness of the people back then, an attempt to differ themselves from the rest of the Yugoslavian Slavs being so close to Italy and the influence that the Latin civilization which was heavily Hellenized after a point with all the pagan rituals, had in the region, that's why it was not followed by anyone around the world, it was mostly a propagandist tool and i was actually surprised hearing you mention it, it has been proven to be fail for 2 decades now.

The fact that some words of yours look or sound like Greek ones doesn't mean something imo, we've all being living in this region for ages and the Hellenization process back then was huge to say the least (i consider it to be the NWO of the time). Even modern English uses 20 thousand Greek words, 5 thousand of them used frequently/daily, all other Balkan neighboring languages and civilizations would have been influenced after so many years, it's inevitable.
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they are not greek words, mate, they are slavic ;)

the linguistic logic of words is slavic. and you know what, the whole indoeruopean lingustic logic is slavic too.
it is simply the older substratum of the romance and germanic languages
and yes, the greek language as well.
all of these languages contain of course also other, non slavonic words of phoenician or turkish origin.
i can assume why this is hard to swallow. because we all have been taught otherwise in our schools.

and i also think one of the main problems is that you have been brainwashed into your superiority towards the slavonic barbarians and are now offended because you feel like some dirty gipsy bastards are trying to climb into your house and fuck your mother ;)

but what if your ancestors were in fact such slavonic 'barbarians', mixed with some phoenicians.
oh noes, that would not be so dandy, right stoner

dont worry, i like greeks and greek culture, but i also think, we ought to pay attention also to our paleolithic ancestors, regardless of what we think by what names they called themselves...
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Slavs gonna Slav, hehe, it's what they do, the only peoples that do archaeology with "linguistic logic" and words looking alike totally neglecting archaeological findings and sites and real linguistic evidence and then claiming that the Slovenes and Slavs created the first European civilization at 1500 BC, loooool, when they haven't found a single piece of evidence backing this claim up. I know you tard these ain't Greek words coz i only know one that could remind me of something, i was just pointing out that this isn't how archaeology works, with words looking alike so we go straight to the claim that Slovenes gave birth to Greek/Roman and western civilizations, lol, lets neglect civilizations like the Minoan and Cycladic ones going back to 5000 BC with their hieroglyphics and the connection they had with the ancient Egyptians, not to mention that Proto-Greek language goes back to 3000 BC with actual evidence backing this up.

Anyway, you have proven your massive ignorance OP, Veneti theory is quasi-archaeology at best that started in the 80's by a Slovene high school teacher, author and self-declared historian called Josko Savli, possibly on govt payroll with no archaeological evidence whatsoever, just pure nationalistic crap like the ones you're posting here, the Slovene Sitchin hehe, so stick with rioting OP, coz archaeology obviously ain't your forte, we would have know if the world was created by Slovenes, read a proper book to educate yourself with something of importance than just poor attempted propaganda while you are at it OP and leave my mama out of this you immature tard. Obvious uneducated fail is obvious.

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How much nonsense are you gonna spin? I'm gonna stop believing your posts about Greece if this continues ...

gotov and fertik don't sound like any words in Greek, English, French, German, Spanish, Chinese ... but exactly like words in Russian.

Different alphabet, same words.

Clue.
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12/05/2012 06:29 AM
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[link to www.slovenskenovice.si]

the police has confirmed, that violent thugs, who helped turn the protests into chaos, were paid by unnamed politicians...
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12/05/2012 06:48 AM
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There is evidence that some of the violent protesters were PAID 50 EUR TO CAUSE TROUBLE in order to provide the authorities a legal ground to dissolve the protests.

Violent protesters more than likely linked to political elite.


Shit for brains translation but better than nothing, I guess.

[link to translate.google.com]


Protests continue. Yesterday, 400 people attended the protest in Jesenice (a town with app. 13 000 residents). Protesters low in numbers but strong in spirit, sick of divide and conquer tactics.

New protests announced, national protest scheduled for 21st December 2012 in Ljubljana.


THE GAME IS OVER!!!!!!!




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Heja, hejo!!!
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12/05/2012 06:52 AM
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Sorry, A

Didn't see your post!



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12/07/2012 03:18 PM
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its getting crazier, better, and wilder from day to day here.


Its heating up
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its getting crazier, better, and wilder from day to day here.


Its heating up
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yes.
another friday in Ljubljana.
this time no violence, just firm will.
chanting: "vsi na ulice!" - everybody on the streets!
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12/08/2012 05:54 AM
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now we are getting dooooomed by snow, much much snow
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i just love slovenia, everytime, i was there, i felt like staying... not for the political system, but for the beauty of their land and for the people, i met there. hf
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Franc Kangler, the mayor of Slovenia's second-largest city, has resigned over corruption allegations after thousands of people protested against him in Maribor city.
[link to www.presstv.ir]
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Emergency Message for U.S. Citizens: Ljubljana (Slovenia) Protests May Continue
Political Violence
Europe > Slovenia > Ljubljana
12/7/2012

The U.S. Embassy informs U.S. citizens of the possibility of continued protests throughout Slovenia in the coming days. During recent protests in Maribor and Ljubljana, stones and firecrackers were thrown at Slovene authorities. The authorities responded, including using tear gas to disperse parts of the crowd, and injuries were reported with several protesters arrested. The media is reporting that protests are planned for Ljubljana on Friday, December 7, beginning at 4pm with participants expected to gather in Kongresni Trg and in front of Parliament. Press reports also indicate that further protests are scheduled to take place across Slovenia on Friday, December 21.

We encourage all U.S. citizens to exercise common sense security measures. Be cautious if you must enter areas where you may be a target of crime or violence. Even demonstrations intended to be peaceful can turn confrontational and escalate into violence. You should avoid areas of demonstrations, and exercise caution if in the vicinity of any large gatherings, protests, or demonstrations.
[link to www.osac.gov (secure)]
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peaceful protesters using the roman cordon tactics on friday to get through the city of Ljubljana, waiving the red/black anarchist flags


if you can't see the video, click the quote button
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With the social attacks, Jansa and Pahor are following the demands of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which has long called for harsh reforms in Slovenia. “Prompt action to address problems in the financial sector, consolidate public spending, and reform the labour market is essential to resolve the current crisis and lay the groundwork for future growth in Slovenia”, Antonio Spilimbergo, head of the IMF mission in Slovenia recently declared.

This former Yugoslav republic is experiencing the sharpest reverse in GDP in the euro zone after Greece as a result of the economic crisis. The European Commission recently forecast a fall in economic output by 2.3 percent this year, with a decline of 1.6 percent next year. Interest rates for state bonds are currently near the critical 7 percent mark.

[link to www.wsws.org]



photos of the demonstration:
[link to www.demotix.com]
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[quote a]



click the quote button to see the video of the last protest in maribor.
it was a musical protest.
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12/18/2012 02:06 AM
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Please help us free innocent Slovenian protesters from jail!

[link to www.avaaz.org]
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12/19/2012 12:31 PM
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protest promo
for friday
the 21.12.2012

biggest protests announced all over slovenia...
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protest promo
for friday
the 21.12.2012

biggest protests announced all over slovenia...
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for video click the quote button...
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12/23/2012 07:57 AM
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protestival 22.12.2012 ljubljana
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12/23/2012 08:28 AM
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protestival 22.12.2012 ljubljana
if you don't see the video, click the quote button
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Nice protest!
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protestival 22.12.2012 ljubljana
if you don't see the video, click the quote button
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Nice protest!
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stoner
yes it is witty...
and the "big guys" are very afraid, they just paid 600.000 euros to the police to protect them...

and here are 2 short videos from friday 21 12 2012 allslovenian protest in ljubljana, guests from bosnia brotherly supporting us with their music:




if you dont se it click the quote button and go from there...
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Thousands of Slovenians hold anti-austerity protest in Ljubljana
[link to www.presstv.ir]


MARIBOR, Slovenia - The walls of the picturesque Slovenian city of Maribor on the banks of the Drava river are covered with graffiti reading "Gotof je!" - "He's finished!".

They are a vivid illustration of the startling crisis that has hit a small country hailed until recently as the star of post-communist transition in eastern Europe and a promising new member of the euro zone.
[link to news.yahoo.com]


Judge Prolongs Detention for 28 Suspected Maribor Rioters
[link to www.sta.si]

the boys are still in prison and there are protests in maribor to free them...
..........................

protests starting also in bosnia and macedonia...

Emergency Message for U.S. Citizens: Sarajevo (Bosnia and Herzegovina), Planned Protest Near U.S. Embassy (December 21 and 22)
[link to www.osac.gov (secure)]


Macedonia budget sparks protests in front of parliament
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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12/26/2012 08:45 AM
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[link to www.demotix.com]

Artists staged a protest called Protestival in Ljubljana as an alternative to the national Independence Day celebration attended by the political elite. Some were wearing a zombie makeup referring to a recent political statement by the ruling party.
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[link to enough14.org]

by Enough is Enough!
Erklärung der Föderation für anarchistische Organisation (FAO), Slowenien:
Slowenien wird im Moment aufgeschreckt durch die erste Massen-Revolte seit zwei Jahrzehnten, die sich vor allem gegen das politische Establishment und die Sparpolitik richtet, aber in einigen Städten auch schon einen antikapitalistischen Charakter bekommen hat.

slowenien_1

In weniger als 3 Wochen gab es 35 Demonstrationen in 18 verschiedenen Städten, woran insgesamt 70.000 Menschen teilgenommen haben. Die Protesten endeten oft in Auseinandersetzungen mit der Polizei, da diese versuchte die Proteste mit Gewalt zu beenden. Es gibt auch Berichte über den Einsatz von faschistischen Provokateuren (Siehe auch: [link to enough14.org] ) Es wurden 284 Menschen verhaftet, einige wurden wieder frei gelassen, andere aber nicht. Es wurden auch viele Menschen verletzt.
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12/27/2012 07:35 AM
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Hi,

I just signed this petition -- will you join me?

Please help us free innocent Slovenian protesters from jail!
To: Court and community of Maribor (Slovenia)

The petition is really important and could use our help. Click here to find out more and sign:
[link to www.avaaz.org]

Thanks so much,
stoner
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[link to www.avaaz.org]

Hi,

I just signed this petition -- will you join me?

Please help us free innocent Slovenian protesters from jail!
To: Court and community of Maribor (Slovenia)

The petition is really important and could use our help. Click here to find out more and sign:
[link to www.avaaz.org]

Thanks so much,
stoner
 Quoting: a 30940923


Why this is important!

When Slovenians got out on the streets and began to protest in response to all the things that have been going wrong as of late, the Slovenian government reacted very aggressively. The police in Maribor arrested several random people from the streets who were not guilty of anything, and though most of them were soon released, 25 people are still in jail despite the fact that they did not do things they are being accused of. They have evidence against the police, but it is sadly not strong enough. It is obvious, furthermore, that their detainment is just a form of government intimidation. The actual criminals are free to roam the streets while our innocent friends, brothers and sons are still in jail. World, we need your help!
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12/27/2012 10:09 PM
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[link to www.avaaz.org]

Hi,

I just signed this petition -- will you join me?

Please help us free innocent Slovenian protesters from jail!
To: Court and community of Maribor (Slovenia)

The petition is really important and could use our help. Click here to find out more and sign:
[link to www.avaaz.org]

Thanks so much,
stoner
 Quoting: a 30940923


Why this is important!

When Slovenians got out on the streets and began to protest in response to all the things that have been going wrong as of late, the Slovenian government reacted very aggressively. The police in Maribor arrested several random people from the streets who were not guilty of anything, and though most of them were soon released, 25 people are still in jail despite the fact that they did not do things they are being accused of. They have evidence against the police, but it is sadly not strong enough. It is obvious, furthermore, that their detainment is just a form of government intimidation. The actual criminals are free to roam the streets while our innocent friends, brothers and sons are still in jail. World, we need your help!
 Quoting: a 30940923


hf
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12/30/2012 10:39 AM
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today at 6 pm,
there ll be another protestival,
joining the protest will be the indian musician Mahesh Vinayakram
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01/12/2013 12:42 PM
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protest in ljubljana yesterday

video
[link to www.livestream.com]

photos
[link to www.siol.net]

support from our good friends on another continent
[link to www.youtube.com]


we got them by the balls and now brussels wants to give us the dick of our prime minister and the oposition leader,
but we wont stop untill the whole parliament goes out and a new consitution, based on Direct Cemocracy will be put in force..


Slovenia's anti-corruption chief: PM and opposition leader must go because of graft claims
[link to www.canada.com]

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!!
stoner

btw: dont believe the mainstream. here the news is twisted. we dont simply want those two clowns to step down, we want it all and we want it now!
[link to www.euronews.com]

an i protest the fact that i have been banned several times because of posting on this thread. fuck censorship!





GLP