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What Ever Happened to Integrity?

 
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Its a dog eat dog world. Kids realize this, so they need an edge so they will lie, cheat and steal. When we were young you couldnt cheat or look up the answer on google. You had to show your work. Integrity is a lost word.
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"Success does not necessarily involve great intellect or great position or great wealth; it has to do with inner integrity. Remember that."

Seth by Jane Roberts
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"Success does not necessarily involve great intellect or great position or great wealth; it has to do with inner integrity. Remember that."

Seth by Jane Roberts
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That sounds nice, but to be Mr. Cynical, it's not reality.

I'm not saying give up your integrity, I'm just saying don't pat yourself on the back too much either. Self-delusion is NOT a good trait.
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"Success does not necessarily involve great intellect or great position or great wealth; it has to do with inner integrity. Remember that."

Seth by Jane Roberts
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That sounds nice, but to be Mr. Cynical, it's not reality.

I'm not saying give up your integrity, I'm just saying don't pat yourself on the back too much either. Self-delusion is NOT a good trait.
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How did you get all that out of that quote??
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Who knows what reality is anymore when the lines are so blurred in duality. We now live in a world where right has become the wrong and integrity has lost all significance, we are told what to believe and how to behave. The critical thinkers are far and few between which haven’t been manipulated into a false paradigm the sheeple will remain sheeple and continue to breed cognitive dissidence.

We need to press the reset button.

peace
Political correctness without wisdom ,is just Political nonsense.
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integrity is more than just not lying.
its more than keeping your word.

Its doing the right thing "just because".

that, of course can be case specific, one persons idea of 'right'maybe differ from anothers.

and yes it starts with us, not what we project and expect from other people.

but its more than just telling the truth.
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Yes, so true.

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"Success does not necessarily involve great intellect or great position or great wealth; it has to do with inner integrity. Remember that."

Seth by Jane Roberts
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Some amazing words in those Seth books.
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Unfortunately it is a dying quality. Its up to us each to try and keep it alive.
"We are locked in a battle. This is not a friendly gentleman's discussion. It is a life and death conflict between the spiritual hosts of wickedness and those who claim the name of Christ".

Francis A. Schaeffer
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Integrity is a concept of consistency of actions, values, methods, measures, principles, expectations, and outcomes. In ethics, integrity is regarded as the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of one's actions. Integrity can be regarded as the opposite of hypocrisy,[1] in that integrity regards internal consistency as a virtue, and suggests that parties holding apparently conflicting values should account for the discrepancy or alter their beliefs.

The word "integrity" stems from the Latin adjective integer (whole, complete).[2] In this context, integrity is the inner sense of "wholeness" deriving from qualities such as honesty and consistency of character. As such, one may judge that others "have integrity" to the extent that they act according to the values, beliefs and principles they claim to hold.

A value system's abstraction depth and range of applicable interaction may also function as significant factors in identifying integrity due to their congruence or lack of congruence with observation. A value system may evolve over time[3] while retaining integrity if those who espouse the values account for and resolve inconsistencies.[4]
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Profit
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Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are. -John Wooden
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Profit
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No, that is not the sole reason for lack of integrity. There are many, many people who are dirt poor and still lack integrity.
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BECAUSE everyone IS studying the Master Rule Breaker, also called the Liar-in-Chief, who is also an illegal, alien fraud and liar !

Welcome to Demoturd heaven, 1984, where lies are truth and evil is good !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28447870


EVERYONE does it. It has become global. It is not one side or the other. One side does not espouse truth. It is ALL twisted. The problem is not one side or the other. The problem is unaccountability and lack of transparency in our political system. Allow either of those to be prevalent within the political system, and the the political system would literally disintegrate.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


Integrity needs to be taught, as humans are inclined to lie - even 2 year olds do it.

Character and integrity are learned and the example comes from those in charge whether it be parents, corporate managers or political leaders.

We did at one time uphold 'truth, justice and the American way' in this country but the corrupt example that has been set by Washington - 'leader of the free world' - over the last few decades has indeed eroded it completely for most everyone on the planet.
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can integrity exist within faith

i see no possibility
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Seriously. It is lost.
....
Do it.

Make a week out of it.

Make a month out of it.

.....Start fixing it with yourself.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I am scared by this "dare". I just started my 30 days of no liquids besides water. None, not juice, soda, or anything. Except water.

Also doing 30 days of no "sexual release".

Of the two above I am not sure what will be worse. And my wife thinks I am crazy. LOL


Not lying, would be harder than both of my current "dares". Sadly, you are correct. We are forced to lie, even more so depending on your job.

I think I will try the no lie for January. December already looking tough for me.

Great idea Sept.
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can integrity exist within faith

i see no possibility
 Quoting: aether


can you expand upon that?

faith=religion?
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can integrity exist within faith

i see no possibility
 Quoting: aether


integrity exists within trust which exists within reality
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can integrity exist within faith

i see no possibility
 Quoting: aether


integrity exists within trust which exists within reality
 Quoting: aether


as in:
something must be real (exist/structure) for integrity to function

structure and function can never be separated

faith is believing something you possess no evidence to be true
is true
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can integrity exist within faith

i see no possibility
 Quoting: aether


integrity exists within trust which exists within reality
 Quoting: aether


as in:
something must be real (exist/structure) for integrity to function

structure and function can never be separated

faith is believing something you possess no evidence to be true
is true
 Quoting: aether


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can integrity exist within faith

i see no possibility
 Quoting: aether


integrity exists within trust which exists within reality
 Quoting: aether


as in:
something must be real (exist/structure) for integrity to function

structure and function can never be separated

faith is believing something you possess no evidence to be true
is true
 Quoting: aether


i think i understand now
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I suppose integrity would work within faith, if your faith actually turned out to be Truth. Most times, I think faith is distorted from truth.
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faith is an attribute of integrity.
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I think we lost integrity about the time our society became more mobile. It used to be that you "behaved" in order to bring to or to keep the honor of your family name. People lived in small towns and knew each other. You didn't want to be the low-life black sheep which brought shame to your name. Even those in cities tended to live in "neighborhoods" - Italian neighborhood, Polish neighborhood, Irish neighborhood.

As times changed, our economy began to require people to move away from their families and the home farm and to far-off cities/suburbs to work - places where nobody knows each other because they move often. It really doesn't matter if you lie or what anybody thinks of you - you'll move on soon enough so who cares?
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Seriously. It is lost.

Remember when someone's word was enough to bind them. A handshake.

Now, it is glazed eyes staring back at you. Rules that are put in place do not mean a thing if someone dislikes what you say.

Promises are fantasies espoused with deaf ears on the one's proclaiming them.

Integrity and its surrounding ideology are so lost in our world that we lie and twist words so often we have become accustom to it.

I made a promise to myself about 4 or so years ago to never tell a lie. It started as just an experiment to truly see how much I 'fibbed' and 'white-lied'. It was amazing. I found myself being disingenuous all the time. For my own pride (?). Among other things I suppose. But, to not make anyone think 'worse' of me or to not get in any 'trouble'. And, even to make sure my spouse or children wouldn't get angry with me. etc, etc.

Spend one week...no, spend one month not telling a lie, even a small one, and see what happens to yourself. Every time you tell one, even a small one, be AWARE of it and ask yourself why you had to lie, and if it was really worth it. And, WHY WAS IT WORTH IT?

I was finding out where all my faults lie, and I was on a pace to fix all those things, to be genuine, to show others who I am and not what I wanted them to see.

Then, about 2 years later, I find myself in a small corporate type environment. And, since I was wholly conscious of any 'lie' that came out of my mouth, I realize it was wholly necessary to lie in order to keep the job or do 'work'.

Integrity does NOT drive the system. The system thrives on disingenuity to prosper. It is inherent in our systems. Politicians, and business, commercial advertisements, loans, collections, elections, family stability and societal acceptance and keeping up with the Jones'.

Do it.

Make a week out of it.

Make a month out of it.

See how long your integrity lasts. Then, when you realize what I am saying is truth, don't point your damn finger at anyone. Instead, realize that we are all in this together, and start fixing it.

Start fixing it with yourself.
 Quoting: Septenary Man




Here's the problem:


1 Timothy 4:1-3

King James Version (KJV)


4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
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Sorry to say, but it's been a long time since I saw integrity. She was walking away silently hand in hand with faith and hope...haven't seen the three of them since. Sad.
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Be Impeccable with your Word: Speak with integrity. Say only what you mean. Avoid using the Word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others. Use the power of your Word in the direction of truth and love.
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Liberals found it offensive and sued to make it illegal.
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The whole country has been a LIE, since the Republic was taken over by the CORPORATE " United States of America", and the 'Federal' reserve, with compounding of the lies through parasitic politicians, banisters and corporate states and towns !

Even the schools were totally corrupted during the late sixties, by the corporate federal government, and I WITNESSED it. The colleges and universities were next, as the liberals took over chairmanship of all departments, and ousted any who didn't 'fit in/objected' to the curriculum changes they made; high schools, junior highs the SAME !

No REAL history was taught either. JUST what was controlled by the puppet masters in Washington, via MONEY allocations that the 'town fathers', once hooked on the extra money couldn't tell the truth to their consituents. Lies and half truths or NOTHING; i.e. you were forced to drop it, or you were fired !

EWagle
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You always bring truth. It is much appreciated.
"For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return"
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Resonates deeply
For integrity!!!

The more laws and rules the less trust
The more trust the less laws and rules needed

If we all treat each other and ourselves with honor, dignity, respect and compassion there are no need for regulation
Only inspiration
Co creation
Thus we may change the systems and the world, inside out, by pondering our own intentions, like you state it so beautifully

Thanks and lots of love
rose
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Back in the 1950's through to the early 70's stores left their merchandise outside , unlocked and often with a little cash box in case of the need for an emergency purchase if the shop was closed. NOT A SINGLE PERSON stole either the merchandise or the cash box.

It just was not done. We NEVER locked our doors or windows, people respected each others possessions and space.

Then came communism by way of the Great Social Experiment introduced by President Roosevelt in 1935 that turned hard working Americans into welfare / entitled brainless animals.

Half of America is lost to this pitiful existence, the remainder of us are apparently the baby boomers and we are all getting old and tired of carrying not only our burden but the burden of those who refuse to do their part.



What Ever Happened to Integrity? You ask, it went to the way side as we were led down the Garden Path by the great deceivers.
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I think we lost integrity about the time our society became more mobile. It used to be that you "behaved" in order to bring to or to keep the honor of your family name. People lived in small towns and knew each other. You didn't want to be the low-life black sheep which brought shame to your name. Even those in cities tended to live in "neighborhoods" - Italian neighborhood, Polish neighborhood, Irish neighborhood.

As times changed, our economy began to require people to move away from their families and the home farm and to far-off cities/suburbs to work - places where nobody knows each other because they move often. It really doesn't matter if you lie or what anybody thinks of you - you'll move on soon enough so who cares?
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Good point indeed.

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