I need opinions: Atheists who believe in the Illuminati, if they don't worship Satan, then who?

Secret knowledge. Thats what they worship.

There should be different sects, with different beliefs.

As an Atheist, isn't outside your your beliefs to put any credence in any supernatural power? i.e., why would it matter if there is a powerful group of people who worship some entity called "Satan"?

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Not all mystery schools are mysterious. Some are based on math. More oriented towards an atheists pov.

My opinion: let them waste all thew time & energy they want, worshiping whatever they want.

Personally I don't think they "worship" anything but power. For a non-religious person, you seem to worry about biblical fiction too much.

Its because I think the Christian God might be real after researching all this shit.

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who said anyone has to worship anything at all.??

even atheistic ideology?

This is in dedication to one of the Greatest Illuminati of all time, Jesus .

It is said that Jesus was sacrificed on the cross made from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, Just as Buddha sat under the Bodhi Tree until he reached the level of an Illuminati, "Enlightenment

As Adam Weishaupt of the Bavarian Illuminati once stated: "Jesus is the Head of the Order"

Jesus shed light upon the White washed graves of the High Priests who in their hypocrisy, availed themselves of prostitutes that hung around the Temple. He shed light on the Temple sellers charging exorborant prices on doves and other sacrificial animals turning his Fathers Temple into a marketplace.

And most of all, after being taught of the Egyptian Initiation rites that gave new purpose to his Rabbi Ordination, he sought out how he could help enlighten others who were humble of heart to their divine inheritance and the Serpent Wisdom of the luminaries.

To one of the Greatest Illuminati of all time. I thank you for bearing the keys to the mysteries ! To bear witness to the clay borne ! To sharpen the children of Iron ! And to all the Children of Light !

"Let your Light Shine Before Men !

Keter descends upon Malkuth.

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A interesting letter:

Thomas Jefferson to Reverend James Madison January 31,1800

Wishaupt believes that to promote this perfection of the human character was the object of Jesus Christ. That his intention was simply to reinstate natural religion, & by diffusing the light of his morality, to teach us to govern ourselves.

His precepts are the love of god & love of our neighbor. And by teaching innocence of conduct, he expected to place men in their natural state of liberty & equality. He says, no one ever laid a surer foundation for liberty than our grand master, Jesus of Nazareth.

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THE KINGDOM OF GRACE. the KINGDOM OF THE JUST ...Adam Weishaupt.. ( Bavarian Illumininati)

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"Morality alone can do this. The head of every family will be what Abraham was, the patriarch, the priest and the unlettered lord of his family, and Reason will be the code of laws to all mankind. This is our great secret. True, there maybe some disturbance; but by and by the unequal will become equal; and after the storm all will be calm. Can the unhappy consequences remain when the grounds of dissention are removed? Rouse yourselves therefore, O men! Assert your rights; and then will reason rule with unpercieved sway, and all shall be happy."

"Morality will perform all this; and Morality is the fruit of Illumination. Duties and rights are reciprocal. Where octavious has no right, Cato owes him no duty. Illumination shows us our rights, and Morality follows; that Morality which teaches us to be of age, to be out of wardenship, to be full grown, and to walk without the leading-strings of Priests and Princes."

"Jesus of Nazareth, the Grand Master of our order, appeared at a time when the world was in the utmost Disorder, and among a people who for ages had groaned under the yolk of Bondage. He taught them the lessons of reason. To be more effective, he took the aid of Religion--of opinions which were current--and in a very clever manner, he combined his secret doctrines with he popular religion, and with the customs which lay to his hand. In these he wrapped up his lessons --he taught by parables. Never did any prophet lead men so easily and so securely along the road to liberty. He concealed the precious meaning and consequences of his doctrines; but fully disclosed them to a chosen few.

He speaks of a kingdom of the upright and faithful; His Father's kingdom, who's children we also are. Let us only take liberty and equality as the great aims of his doctrines, and Morality as the way to attain it, and everything in the New Testament will be comprehensible; and Jesus will appear as the Redeemer of slaves. Man has fallen from the condition of Liberty and Equality, the STATE OF PURE NATURE. He is under subordination and civil bondage, arising from the vices of man. This is the FALL, and ORIGINAL SIN.

The KINGDOM OF GRACE is that restoration which may be brought about by Illumination and a just Morality. This is the NEW BIRTH. When man lives under government, he is fallen, his worth is gone, and his nature tarnished. By subdoing our passions, or limiting their cravings, we may recover a great deal of our original worth, and live in a state of grace. Thus is the redemption of men--this is accomplished by Morality; and when this is spread over the world, we have THE KINGDOM OF THE JUST."

-Adam Weishaupt (Founder of Bavarian Illumininati)

Jesus of Nazareth is the Grand Master of the Illuminati Order.

No, Jesus condemned the Roman Church as a 'harlot', before they even existed!

"Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, you may believe that I am he." (John 13:19)




The Roman Harlot

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Well, yeah, thats because Jesus was a Gnostic, and a Revolutionist. He didnt agree with everything that was going on at the time. Same ideals as Adam Weishaupt.

You have no evidence for this other than repeated rhetoric. You're just trying to post inflammatory comments to get a rise out of a Christian.

Wrong again - The Roman Church was founded by the first Gnostic, Simon Magus. He is mentioned and rebuked in the book of Acts.

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Understand what Gnosticism is; it takes Bible truth and turns it into corruption, such as the mother of Jesus, who was a virgin. Rome has made her into the 'Virgin Mary' of Babylon's Simeramis. All this and more are found in Rome. Yet Rome claims it was other Christians who were the gnostics, such as the Cathars. The Cathars were the Waldensens and Albigensens one and the same who came from the real first century Nazarene Christians. Rome waged Crusades against these.

So i'm not posting some unfounded hate against the Roman Church; it is they who make the charge and violent crusades that of course killed many.

A guy is sitting in bar and he believes in GOD (Just knows there is more to live than this and has been spared by God on more than one occasion but also has a personal relationship that he has built with God over the years).

In walks a group of theologians from every religion known to man.(Believe in Almighty but with stipulations, and also believes in the devil).

In walks a group of occultists from a myriad of cults (Believe in God but their deity rules for shear number of them that believe in him).

In walks a group of atheist who believe in no God but if asked "so you believe in satan?" they shun you and refuse to speak.


Who do you trust?

The God that has spared you your whole life?

The God that "will" spare you if you believe a certain way?

The "god" that will save and spare you if you denounce your former God?

The "non god" who's ppl believe they can partake in intelligent conversation about without knowing existence of GOD, but get pissed and want to stop the conversation if you ask them "why don't you also dis-believe the devil"?


Gee let me think and get back to you on that one.......

Soooo, the "genius" Weishaupt didn't know the difference between "yolk" (as in egg) and "yoke?"

Wasn't very smart, was he?

I was in the same boat as you about ten months ago OP. Keep researching, the world is sick and the devil runs the show. I recommend a kjv bible and start reading. Chuck Missler, Mike Hoggard, Paul Washer, and Francis Chan are good pastors to start with on youtube. God bless my friend, it looks like you woke up!