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BREAKING: North Lebanon border town under Syrian shelling! Israeli Forces Cross into Lebanon! Lebanese Army on Full Alert

 
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Only a matter of time until the shot that starts all out regional was is fired.
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Al Arabiya English @AlArabiya_Eng 19m
#BreakingNews: At least 90 people are killed by regime forces today in Damascus and its suburbs: activists




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The Israelis wont start a war until they have the best missile shields money can buy.
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Thnx for updates Doorbert! cheers
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Syria attacks Turkey in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Lebanon in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Israel in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Jordan in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Iraq in a regular basis.

Syria is in a civil war.

Now the question: WTF are countries waiting to attack Syria????????? scratching Kill the rabid dog and be done with it!!!!
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Syria attacks Turkey in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Lebanon in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Israel in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Jordan in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Iraq in a regular basis.

Syria is in a civil war.

Now the question: WTF are countries waiting to attack Syria????????? scratching Kill the rabid dog and be done with it!!!!
 Quoting: Zombietard


If Syria didn't have a large stockpile of chemical weapons they would have attacked already methinks. Russia/China disagreeing with intervention is also an important factor.

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Thanks Doorbert! You da man!

Keep us updated on what's going on. I expect it to all blow up any minute. But then that's been the case for years.
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Syria attacks Turkey in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Lebanon in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Israel in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Jordan in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Iraq in a regular basis.

Syria is in a civil war.

Now the question: WTF are countries waiting to attack Syria????????? scratching Kill the rabid dog and be done with it!!!!
 Quoting: Zombietard


The World's policeman has retired.... why doesn't the other western powers take the lead on this one?
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Israel soldiers entered occupied Lebanon while Hezbollah guards were fucking their goats.
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Syria attacks Turkey in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Lebanon in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Israel in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Jordan in a regular basis.
Syria attacks Iraq in a regular basis.

Syria is in a civil war.

Now the question: WTF are countries waiting to attack Syria????????? scratching Kill the rabid dog and be done with it!!!!
 Quoting: Zombietard


Seriously believe that Syria (Assad) is firing on everyone around as if to say, 'c'mon bring it! Wipe us off the face of the planet?' That makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever to the rational mind. There are larger players involved here and much more than meets the eye. For god's sake, think about it. Why would a country invite destruction by firing upon every single neighbor they have?
Perpetually dumbfounded.

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[link to www.dailystar.com.lb]

"Crossing the technical fence, however, is not a violation of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1701, which stipulates that Israel and Lebanon should respect the de facto border that stretches along the Wazzani region."
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Thnx for updates Doorbert! cheers
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Thanks Doorbert! You da man!

Keep us updated on what's going on. I expect it to all blow up any minute. But then that's been the case for years.
 Quoting: Bluebird


dasbier
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Now just imagine Hezbollah soldiers crossing into Israel territory???

Israel would already be bombing the shit out of Lebanon...


Double standards we can believe in.
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Has anyone acertained yet if the 'fence' is the actual border? as I understand it the fence is 20 metres INSIDE the Israeli border....

I think there is some BS flying around....
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Instapin
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5 stars and a pin request
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Hey, you've got some brown stuff around your lips..
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Must have been from slapping the shit out of you..
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18:51 Russia on Wednesday called the bombings that rocked Damascus earlier in the day “unjustifiable crimes,” AFP reported.


18:37 Jordan police said it arrested on Wednesday five Jordanian men, including a terror convict, for planning to infiltrate into neighboring Syria with automatic weapons.


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Israeli troops shoot 5 Palestinians, Gaza officials say

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the wire isn't the border. the idf soldiers did NOT cross into lebanon if they were only 15 m north of the wire.
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agreed, it's much ado about nothing, crossing to maintain the barriers is routine.
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Zilla

It's is ALWAYS much ado about nothing when it comes to Musls and their hysterical "useful idiot" fan-boys all over the world. Such drama queens.

1) Muslims can mass-murder, mass-rape, mass-torture and destroy ENTIRE cultures & civilizations from West African Coast to Indo-freakin'-nesia.... for 1,400 years..... And it's par for the course.

But one time they get their asses kicked by the tiny Israel comprised mostly of Holocaust survivers, former doctors, accountants, lawyers, tailors fighting with nothing but knives and smuggled gums against a massive British-equipped & commanded Arab army.... it's ZOMG, OH THE INJUSTICE ARGHGHGHT for 64 years on end.

They even have a unique, dedicated agency UNRWA built especially for them that inflates the number of "refugees" of Arab aggression by 10 fold...... Ah, it's good to be the King, but it must be even better to be a Muslim!

2) Likewise, Hezbollah alongside with Shabiha and Assad regular army can LITERALLY rape, torture and murder Syrian civilians by 10,000's. And these judgmental clowns zip their little mouths shut.

Nasrallah can threaten Tel Aviv population centers witth 1,000 rockets every other week... same thing, no outrage. In fact 2 rockets WERE fired at Israel from Lebanon just last week. Noone cares.

But heaven forbid some IDF soldiers breached the wire -- not the border, but the wirev -- for whole 15 meters to remove aa tree or an illigally planted Hezbollah device.........it's "OMG 15 METERS OH'No's Jews runs the world" batshit flip-out time.

LOL, predictably Internet so predictable.
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Hezbollah’s current array of rockets surpasses in size and sophistication its arsenal of 2006, when the longest range system in its possession was the Zelzal-2, an Iranian 610mm unguided rocket carrying a 600-kilogram warhead with a reach of some 210 kilometers. The Zelzal-2 was not fired in the 2006 war; the largest rocket launched during that conflict was the Syrian-manufactured B302.

Hezbollah reportedly has been trained on the Scud short-range ballistic missile, although there are mixed reports on whether any have been transferred into Lebanon. Other than the Scud, Hezbollah is believed to have acquired the M600, a guided missile manufactured by Syria and based on Iran’s Fateh A-110. The M600 is thought to have a 500-kilogram warhead, a range of 240 kilometers and an ability to strike within 100 to 500 meters of its target.

Unusually for the secretive Syrian military, televised exercises were held in December 2011 and July 2012 to show off Syria’s missile capabilities, including anti-ship, anti-aircraft and surface-to-surface systems. The purpose appears to have been to warn the international community of the risks of a foreign military intervention on behalf of the Syrian opposition.

Of particular interest in the Hezbollah-Israel context was the first public unveiling of the M600, identified by the Syrians as the “Tishreen.” Also shown was the “Maysalun,” the Syrian-engineered version of the Iranian Zelzal-2.

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In 2006, Hezbollah medium- and long-range rockets were destroyed by IAF in the first HOUR of the war.

And in 2012/2013 Israel is far more powerful and no longer led by Leftist cretin like Olmert (as they were in 2006).

Oh Heck, I'll just repost from another thread:



LOL, the Nasrallah is still hiding for 6 years in his bunker. He will be lucky to survive the Sunni Spring in Syria (most of Hebollah is committed in Syria in desperate attempt to save Bashar Assad). No wonder because "Nasrallah" in Russian means "she took a shit". It's true, hahaah.

1) Hezbollah may have more rockets than Hamas, but most of them still need LAUNCHERS --- in 2006, Israel destroyed Hezbollah's longer-range rockets in the first hour of the war.

2) By 2006, IDF was simply too pre-occupied with TERROR policing activities during 2nd Intifada --- and as such woefully unprepared for a bigger war. The invaluable, old-school training for infantry and mechanized units were slashed dramatically for years for budgetary reasons. The Merkava tank project was all but halted. The Trophy system delayed, also for budgetary reasons. Most people in Israel cared more about the Peace Process and dealing with Palestinian terror than Lebanon. Remember, in 2000 Ehud Barak pulled Israel out of South Lebanon completely, so it was considered to be a non-issue anymore.

3) What's worse, in 2006, Israel was led by a corrupt Leftie loser like Ehud Olmert as PM and by Amir Peretz as Defense Minister, despite not having military background (Peretz was a labor-union boss, for crying outloud, lol!). Olmert clearly did NOT want to have a war; was dragged into it only because of 2 kidnapped Israeli soldiers; had moronic idea of tactics; was too slow making decisions; then even when he did listen to his commanders and made a right decision, he then pussied out and changed his mind like 10 different times.... sending (older) Mekava tanks into suicide missions, into volleys of Russian Kornet & Metis-M fire in wooded, mountainous area for which Merkava or any other tank wasn't even suited..... Finally when Olmert & Peretz listerned to their more professional military advisers on the very last day of the war, Olmert's incompetent Foreign Minister, Tsipi Livni under pressure from George W. Bush and Europeans agreed to a cease-fire ---- thus defeating the entire point of the 11th hour Israeli gains!

4) So despite the pretty much WORST-case scenario of the 2nd Lebanon War... Only about 50 civilians died in Israel, 40 of them Israeli ARABS in the North. Oh the irony, Muslims killing Muslims again! Also those ill-planned, suicidal Olmert tank missions resulted in about 100 IDF casualties ---- as compared to 800 Hezbollah fighters. That's a robust 8:1 kill ratio in favour of the admittedly ill-prepared IDF fighting on Hezbollah's home turf, mind you. Initially Hezbollah was so embarassed they claimed only 250 deaths, then the figure rose to 500 all while trying to hide their elite fighters deaths in bunkers, tunnels, treating them in Syrian hospitals under fake names ----> but now years later we know the full extent of their losses. Plus another 600-700 Lebanese civilians died. BILLIONS of dollars in damage was caused to Lebanese territory.

Lebanese Prime Minister at the time was CRYING on TV. Hell, even the normally-trash talking Hassan Nasrallah admitted after the war that had he known how harsh IDF response would be, he would NOT have ordered the kidnapping of the 2 IDF soldiers that kick-started the war. So if that's a "defeat" for Israel, then I don't know what people expect from the tiny Israel. Yes, 6-Day War in 1967 and the Bekaa Valley Turkey Shoot in 1982 were far more convincing victories for IDF --- but they are considered to be ALL-TIME Historic great military victories, so it's not exactly fair to expect that from IDF or any other military that kind of stunning success every single time. I mean, that maybe on your Playstation or XBox-360; but in real life, in this messy, foggy thing called "WAR", it just doesn't work that way, unfortunately. Especially the kind of guerilla warfare waged by Hezzies. Just ask the military juggernaut like the US in Afganistan how easy it is.

5) While far from ideal, still the 2nd lebanese war provided unprecedended 6+ years of quiet for North Israel. Before that war, Hezbollah terrorists used to attack every 2-3 months.

6) Now Nasrallah boasts about increased rocket stockpile. But he's forgetting that Israel has also made HUGE advancements & overhauls of their military doctrine. Even 2009 Castlead showed impressive efficiency --- 700 Hamas fighters killed vs. only 10 IDF, including 3 soldiers by friendly fire errant tank shell, and another one killed inside Israel by mortar. So that's 70:1 kill ratio, 100:1 ratio if you take out that IDF friendly fire accident. Unprecedented by 21st century urban-warfare standards! And IDF is far more capable in 2012-2013 than it was in 2008/2009.

7) More imporantly, now Israel is going to be led by Netanyahu, Lieberman and new Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon. No more Left-Wingers who try to play nice with terrorists and beg UN's permission for everything. So if Nasrallah targets civilians in Tel Aviv, Haifa, Jerusalem as he's threatening, expect a few more unpleasant surprises visit upon Hezzies and their bosses in Teheran (newer Stuxnet, EMP, low-yield Neutron bombs, who's to say...)

8) As mentioned, almost all casualties for IDF came from poorly-planned Merkava raids. Actually those older Merkava 2 and Merkava 3 tanks were very strong, managed to take a lot of hits and out of 45 tanks hit, all but 5 eventually returned to service after repair. However, against veritable volleys advanced Russian ATGM Kornet & Metis-M, no tank in the world can withstand for long. Not Abrams, not Leopard, not Challenger, not T-90. Now, after the war, Israel has re-instated the Merkava and Namer APC program, and the two dynamic tank-protections systems, Rafael's Trophy and IMI's Iron Fist ----> both have shown to be able to defeat even most advanced Kornet and RPG-29. And both instantly pinpoint the location of the Hezbollah teams that fired the incoming ATGM --- that's a game changer for Hezbollah, LOL.

9) Another area where IDF is light years ahead of 2006 is strategy. In 2006, they thought they could just do some bombing and be done with it -- ala US against Saddam in 1991. IDF was so unprepared, they didn't even manage to properly supply soldiers with food & water when they did enter Lebanon at the very end of the war right before Cease-fire took hold. In 2012-2013, that's been rectified, the next Lebanon war will likely include lightening quick, devastatingly powerful incursions under advanced artillery cover and drones, lots of drones. You saw just how surgical IDF has gotten last week against Gaza terror infrastructure.

10) Barak-8, Iron Dome, Magic Wand, Patriot-Advanced-Capability (PAC), Arrow 2 and eventually Arrow-3 systems. While Israel doesn't have the unlimited oil-wealth of other M.E nations, and as such has to progress slowly on developing SAM defense solutions.... suffice it to say, IDF has some newer toys. While only 1/3 of full arial coverage has been achieved in such very short period of time, Iron Dome has already showed unexpected ability to shoot down larger, expensive rockets like Fajr-5 and the older version of Zelzal. That's a game-changer for Hezbolah because most of its arnenal is smaller, shorter-range Grads.

11) In short, all this Islamic bluster is just pathetic attempt to cover up for Iran's embarassment at their main off-site Weapons facility bombed in Sudan a month ago, and their darling jihadi groups in Gaza Hamas & Islamic Jihad, PRC in whose missile capabilities Iran invested years & billions of dollars.... go up in flames in just a few days, along with their top military commanders like Ja'abari, Raed al-Atar, et al. Not nearly as easy to replace, trust & replenish them as it sounds -- especially now that Obama & Clinton have made pledge to Israel to maintain tighter supervision & control of Gaza smuggling tunnels.


If I am Nasrallah, I better worry about Assad losing 500+ tanks, IFV, APC and now even SAM & air bases. And about Lebanese economy.

His desperation is palpable."
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The Israelis wont start a war until they have the best missile shields money can buy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


You must be confusing Israel with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait (whose massive wealth, incidentally, is ONLY possible because of Western technology & hard work discovering, extracting, refining, transporting and providing consumption markets for arab OIL... funny how the Big Satan & other Infidels were so apparently satanic, demonic and luciferian as to make Muslims filthy-rich along the way...."those damned Pale-face Kaffirs, they be so evil, yo!")

Israe has developed many of its systems in-house despite lack of natural resources (until the 2009 and 2010 oil & gas discoveries anyway).

Hezbollah may beat its chest about its few dozen Zelzal-2 rockets that Iranians so graciously provided them.... but whatever Zelzals survive Israel's initial bombardment, will be taken care of by this bad boy:


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Hmmm, why not 12 months? Maybe they expect Assad to be out of there within 12 months and want to be able to sell arms to the next government?


EU officials agree to renew Syria arms embargo for 3 months, not originally expected 12 months, UK foreign office says - @Reuters

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The Israelis wont start a war until they have the best missile shields money can buy.
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You must be confusing Israel with Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait (whose massive wealth, incidentally, is ONLY possible because of Western technology & hard work discovering, extracting, refining, transporting and providing consumption markets for arab OIL... funny how the Big Satan & other Infidels were so apparently satanic, demonic and luciferian as to make Muslims filthy-rich along the way...."those damned Pale-face Kaffirs, they be so evil, yo!")

Israe has developed many of its systems in-house despite lack of natural resources (until the 2009 and 2010 oil & gas discoveries anyway).

Hezbollah may beat its chest about its few dozen Zelzal-2 rockets that Iranians so graciously provided them.... but whatever Zelzals survive Israel's initial bombardment, will be taken care of by this bad boy:



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Eight Israeli military aircraft violate Lebanese airspace

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Well WTF going on now???
 Quoting: Éireann


Sounds very interesting..Build up to something
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