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BREAKING AP REPORT: Iran Building 50-Kiloton Nuke Bomb

 
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Hiroshima Bomb = 15-Kiloton
Nagasaki Bomb = 15 to 20-Kiloton

And most made by other countries are upward of 100 kiloton.

High yeild nukes and hydrogens.
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Doesn't matter.

In the bible, Iran attacks Israel with many Muslim Armies. Israel defeats them with the help of GOD.

Iran and their nuke program = fail = aint gonna happen.

Moving on...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24854327


Also, the Muzzies want the Israel land so very very very bad.

if they nuke that Israeli land, it will be no use to them.

How bout them apples?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24854327


No use? If you were not aware, Hiroshima and Nagasaki are both thriving cities today after being flattened in the 40's by nukes, in fact it did not take long (in the larger scheme of things) for both of those cities to be back up and running. Having a nuke dropped on an area does not make that area completely unusable, it is just not usable for a relatively short period of time.
It is, to me, sad how fast people forget the FOUNDATIONS of our fine country! This country was built by an armed population capable of fending for themselves, and will be lost by couches full of potato-sheeple riding their 52" HD-LEDTV's into the orwellian sunset. :(
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To create the EMP effect talked about earlier, you must detonate a nuclear device at an altitude of 20 - 40 KM not 1 mile. I wish people did more homework before trying to quote facts.

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Also, the Shahab 3 which is mass prduced in Iran, can fly in its final stage up to Mach 7 and capable of flying at much higher if needed than the required 20-40 KM.

The Shahab-3B differs from the basic production variant. It has improvements to its guidance system and warhead, a few small changes on the missile body, and a new re-entry vehicle whose terminal guidance system and rocket-nozzle steering method are completely different from the Shahab-3A's spin-stabilized re-entry vehicle.
he new re-entry vehicle uses a triconic aeroshell geometry (or 'baby bottle' design) which improves the overall lift to drag ratio for the re-entry vehicle. This allows greater range maneuverability which can result in better precision. The triconic design also reduces the overall size of the warhead from an estimated 1 metric ton (2,200 lb) to 700 kg (1,500 lb).The rocket-nozzle control system allows the missile to change its trajectory several times during re-entry and even terminal phase, effectively preventing interceptor guidance via trajectory prediction by early warning radar - a method nearly all long range ABM systems use. As a high-speed ballistic missile and pre-mission fueling capability, the Shahab-3 has an extremely short launch/impact time ratio. This means that the INS/gyroscope guidance would also remain relatively accurate until impact (important, given the fact that the gyroscopes tend to lose accuracy with longer flights). The CEP is estimated to be at 30–50 metres (98–160 ft) or less.[9] However, the accuracy of the missile is largely speculative and cannot be confidently predicted for wartime situations.[10]
These improvements would greatly increase the Shahab-3B's survivability against ABM systems such as Israel's Arrow 2 missile as well as being used for precision attacks against high value targets such as command, control and communications centres.

Little is known about Shahab-3C and Shahab-3D. From what can be gathered, the missiles have an improved precision, navigation system, and a longer range. The missiles were indigenously developed, and are being mass produced. Iran has a production capacity of 70 units per year.

Now the only question is can a Shahab 3C or 3D be fitted for a nuclear weapon, and can just one missle get from Iran to the Gulf? The missle isnt that big or tall. 54 feet long 3 feet wide.
According to the link, "The Shahab 3 could use a nuclear warhead similar to the warhead design sold by A.Q. Khan to Libya."
[link to missilethreat.com]
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Hiroshima Bomb = 15-Kiloton
Nagasaki Bomb = 15 to 20-Kiloton

And most made by other countries are upward of 100 kiloton.

High yeild nukes and hydrogens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1127694


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Tsar Bomb in Soviet Union was estimated 60 Megatons. The Science to building super Powerful Hydrogen Bombs have been on the drawing bombs for over 40+ years. Actually supposedly, there's a Bomb (Developed in Theory, no-one says if it was actually made, that would be 400+ Megatons). That would take out most of upper East coast and probably made a crack in the Earths Crust and perhaps Earth??.

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Someone shared a link a few months ago that allowed u to select a kiloton, then select a city to be able to see if you are in the kill zone. Anyone know what I am referring to? I am on my phone and can't search good.
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Don't have the link, but I know which one you mean.
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Tsar Bomb in Soviet Union was estimated 60 Megatons. The Science to building super Powerful Hydrogen Bombs have been on the drawing bombs for over 40+ years. Actually supposedly, there's a Bomb (Developed in Theory, no-one says if it was actually made, that would be 400+ Megatons). That would take out most of upper East coast and probably made a crack in the Earths Crust and perhaps Earth??.


Theres been alot since Tsar.

We just dont know, theyve grown exponentially since the 60s and 70s.

A 400KT would prolly crack earth in half given the latest seismic and geologic crap going on.
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So that whole cartoon picture of the RED LINE has been updated?
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Tsar Bomb in Soviet Union was estimated 60 Megatons. The Science to building super Powerful Hydrogen Bombs have been on the drawing bombs for over 40+ years. Actually supposedly, there's a Bomb (Developed in Theory, no-one says if it was actually made, that would be 400+ Megatons). That would take out most of upper East coast and probably made a crack in the Earths Crust and perhaps Earth??.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1127694


The eruption of the Kraktoa volcano in 1883 was apparently only 200MT.
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"gun type" POS "device" type bomb.

They are easy to build...hell I could make a crude one easy enough..
Getting the HEU?.....not so easy, at all...but that's what of course the Iranians are doing.

Doubt they could ever do a 50kt yeild without a far more complicated and difficult to build plutonium bomb...
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yeah the most they can probably get out of that is 20kt
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Although, as Hiroshima showed, 20kt would make a mess.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


no doubt, in a highly populated area it would leave nothing but death and destruction.
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The Psychological impact would have far greater effect than the actualy yeild...even a shitty "A Bomb" is the ultimate terror device.
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yeah the most they can probably get out of that is 20kt
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Although, as Hiroshima showed, 20kt would make a mess.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


no doubt, in a highly populated area it would leave nothing but death and destruction.
 Quoting: godzilla85


The Psychological impact would have far greater effect than the actualy yeild...even a shitty "A Bomb" is the ultimate terror device.
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well put in the right place in can kill a hell of alot of people let alone the pyschological impact of it. America would literally be paralyzed overnight by such an event.
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more exscuses to start WWIII
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How many Israeli homes and businesses are powered by Israel's nuclear plant in Dimona?

[link to www.globalsecurity.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28600571


Dunno, Israel isn't sitting on a huge oil field...Iran doesn't need nuclear power except to build a bomb...which they have already proven that they supply arms to Hamas and other terrorists groups...
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so fucking what,us has supplied arms to the taliban in afghanistan,and now to the same radicals in syria...get the fuck out of here with your warmongering bullshit,go have a life u fucking looser
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Nobody is going to nuke Jerusalem ! Not even the radical muslims are crazy enough to blow up that place !

It's holy for Christianity, Judaism and islam !
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It's like the appendix of the human body, worthless, but blowing it up could kill the entire earth.
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Tsar Bomb in Soviet Union was estimated 60 Megatons. The Science to building super Powerful Hydrogen Bombs have been on the drawing bombs for over 40+ years. Actually supposedly, there's a Bomb (Developed in Theory, no-one says if it was actually made, that would be 400+ Megatons). That would take out most of upper East coast and probably made a crack in the Earths Crust and perhaps Earth??.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1127694


The eruption of the Kraktoa volcano in 1883 was apparently only 200MT.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


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Well! Imagine twice that (Kraktoa Volcano @ 2x yield), in theory, that USA Scientists, say can be done! (manufactured). (400 MT). I don't think it was ever produced, but the Physicists and Mathematicians say it is possible on the "Drawing Board" to do such a "Super Bomb". However our good friends the Russians (snicker, snicker!!) have a 160 MT produced and manufactured and supposedly there are 4 of them made. Highest Produced U.S. Nuclear Bomb made and out there is only 20 to 30 MT. U.S. Government is such a wimp, in producing, manufacturing High Yield Nuclear Bombs!. Just like there Intelligence Agencies (goes along with thee territory), (CIA, NSA, DHS, FBI), that supposedly watch over the Sheeple (Masses).

But anyhow as I digress, an Incident in the USA, won't be Nuclear, it will be "Biological" 1000%. And its not a matter of "if" its a matter of "when".

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Although, as Hiroshima showed, 20kt would make a mess.
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no doubt, in a highly populated area it would leave nothing but death and destruction.
 Quoting: godzilla85


The Psychological impact would have far greater effect than the actualy yeild...even a shitty "A Bomb" is the ultimate terror device.
 Quoting: SHR


well put in the right place in can kill a hell of alot of people let alone the pyschological impact of it. America would literally be paralyzed overnight by such an event.
 Quoting: godzilla85


Pretty much. Although even a tiny nuclear bomb (say <1kt) would be psychologically very different from, say, an 18 wheeler full of conventional explosives.
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A diagram has been uncovered which shows that Iranian scientists are calculating the "nuclear explosive yield" of a major nuclear weapon.

The weapon would yield 50 kilotons at full force.

Hiroshima Bomb = 15-Kiloton
Nagasaki Bomb = 15 to 20-Kiloton

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


False context is false.

Iranian scientists have run computer simulations for a nuclear weapon that would produce more than triple the explosive force of the World War II bomb that destroyed Hiroshima, according to a diagram obtained by The Associated Press.

[...]

The diagram has a caption in Farsi: "Changes in output and in energy released as a function of time through power pulse." The number "5'' is part of the title, suggesting it is part of a series.

David Albright, whose Institute for Science and International Security is used by the U.S. government as a go-to source on Iran's nuclear program, said the diagram looks genuine but seems to be designed more "to understand the process" than as part of a blueprint for an actual weapon in the making.

Source: [link to www.usatoday.com]

They are not actually trying to make a bomb.

Look for more info on it here: [link to whowhatwhy.com]
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Nobody is going to nuke Jerusalem ! Not even the radical muslims are crazy enough to blow up that place !

It's holy for Christianity, Judaism and islam !
 Quoting: subzero86


It's like the appendix of the human body, worthless, but blowing it up could kill the entire earth.
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Very true. One thing is for certain, the world will go on and a new civilization will rise , but if anyone uses a nuclear bomb nowadays it is the end of THIS civilization....
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Song for you (Buddy- As the FBI, used that expression quite frequently)..

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How is the FBI connected with our chat here? 1dunno1
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Your right!, FBI got to learn how to read 1st. My Bad!

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Oooooooowwww, pardon my ignorance, hehe, totally forgot that you are labeled as an agent from some tards if you don't agree with the MSM and the rest of the brown-nosers view that shill to infinity like there's no tomorrow in a conspiracy forum with posts that have no difference whatsoever with the CNN or NYT comments section (actually think you are the same dudes here and there tbh), only then you are considered legitimate posters, makes sense now, hehe.

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A diagram has been uncovered which shows that Iranian scientists are calculating the "nuclear explosive yield" of a major nuclear weapon.

The weapon would yield 50 kilotons at full force.

Hiroshima Bomb = 15-Kiloton
Nagasaki Bomb = 15 to 20-Kiloton

[link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


False context is false.

Iranian scientists have run computer simulations for a nuclear weapon that would produce more than triple the explosive force of the World War II bomb that destroyed Hiroshima, according to a diagram obtained by The Associated Press.

[...]

The diagram has a caption in Farsi: "Changes in output and in energy released as a function of time through power pulse." The number "5'' is part of the title, suggesting it is part of a series.

David Albright, whose Institute for Science and International Security is used by the U.S. government as a go-to source on Iran's nuclear program, said the diagram looks genuine but seems to be designed more "to understand the process" than as part of a blueprint for an actual weapon in the making.
 Quoting: Mr. Invisible


Source: [link to www.usatoday.com]

They are not actually trying to make a bomb.

Look for more info on it here: [link to whowhatwhy.com]


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2 points:

#1 its from "Asso"CIA"ted News Press", who are the biggest bullshit artists, this side of the Mississippi!

#2 This (Holy, Sacred, Precious) Country USA, has been dead, ever since that Communist Infiltrator FDR came into Office (1930).

And when they talk about Science Fiction Movies, going back in time, and talk about killing the "Hitler Baby", they should also talk about killing the "FDR" baby!.

That man FDR ("Communist Infiltrator"), has done more for the total Destruction of this Country (USA), than any 1 man President in the History of the USA, and its been downhill, ever since...

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If only there was a way to save all of their hot women we'd have nuked em by now. pigchef

Good catch bert.
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Agreed
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i think your brain is already nuked from mcdonalds and other shit u think is the norm,no clue about life whatsoever
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Iran's atomic chief rejects nuke diagram claims

Abbasi-Davani dismisses as "false" AP report that Iran is "working on a nuclear bomb more powerful than Hiroshima."

[link to www.jpost.com]
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i think your brain is already nuked from mcdonalds and other shit u think is the norm,no clue about life whatsoever
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2 thoughts for you:

#1 Whatever??

#2 Whatever floats your boat.

You need to do what the FBI does everyday, drop some good LSD-25, and perhaps you'll see the light like them.

But not sure if you were like the "Keystone Cops" before your brain got fried!. The you'll be exactly to a "T" like the FBI.

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Quit screwing around with the stragglers at the edges.

Nuke Mecca.

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A little presumptuous to say they are BUILDING a nuclear bomb. But they are obviously looking into it.

Thanks for the thread Doorbert.

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Not really when you look at just how nuclear fission and Uranium-235 works due to it's nature.

See if I can explain real quick, simple and easy.

U-235 is the "good stuff" Uranium...less than 1% of natural or mined Uranium which is mostly the crap Uranium-238. The entire nuclear reaction industry, nuke power, simple nuke bombs etc etc is all based on U-235.

U-235 is a naturally fissionable isotope. What this means is that by it's own nature, it creates the nuclear fission reaction all by itself. More or less when one isotope of U-235 is near more U-235?...they fire atomic particles (Nuetrons) at each other, blowing hunks of particles off each other, creating fission, like little explosions at the atomic level, which the main by product of is heat. The chain reaction of blown off hunks hitting other hunks and particle firing keeps going all by itself.

So you mine up the crap high volume Uranium which contains very little of the "good stuff" U-235...you "enrich" that Uranium to isolate the U-235 out of it and the more you extract/enrich out?...or really remove the crap...the more you can do.

Enriched Uranium to varying rough degrees:

2-5% you have nuclear fuel rods, put rods near each other the natural reaction fight starts and generate a crap load of heat. All the massive tech and all the control rods etc etc is not to make the nuclear reaction happen, it's to control and operate it under control. A reactor fails when those control systems fail and nature takes over causing a runaway uncontrolled nuclear reaction, it then might meltdown etc etc.

20% you beging to reach "nuclear weapons usable"...you might get a dud, but you are going to get some sort of fission reaction going on that is well beyond what a nuclear power plant reactor could create and you are going to get a whole shitload of pissed off radioactive material launching particles at each other crapping off all sorts of harmful radioactive particles all over the place.

80%+ you have "weapons grade" Highly Enriched Uranium. The closer you get to 100%, which is more or less impossible, the better it works. This is the range where you can create what is called a "Critical Mass"...this is when you get enough of the U-235 in one place, that the naturally occuring fission reaction goes completely out of control (critical) and overwhelms itself...also known as a Hiroshima Bomb, bright white flash, big kaboom, humans melting at a bazzilion degrees, radiation all your face and all that happy time shit.

The Hiroshima bomb was effectively nothing more than a simple "critial mass" created inside a metal bomb housing. To create a critical mass all you need is about 120 lbs of 85% HEU...you want to make an "A bomb"?...all you do is make 2 60lb blocks...whack them together and boom der it is.

You can see how it will get more complicated to make whatever machanical stuff needed so that you can make your "A Bomb" go boom when and where you want it to and not vaporise yourself whacking your critical mass together, but in bare bones terms and in essense of the science that is exactly how it all works...and it works so well and MUST work that we (USA) didn't even bother to test the Hiroshima Gun type A-bomb before we dropped it on Japan...we were that sure that it could not possibly fail.

So really all this Iran rhetoric boils down to this simple law of nature. Once you make enough U-235 HEU? 120lbs?...you have the bomb....there is no building anything because that quantity all by itself due to the laws of nature IS the bomb.

Is it a MREV ICBM with 20 40kt high tech guided warheads "system"?...of course not...but it works...it can't NOT work...it's just that simple.
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more exscuses to start WWIII
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How much do you make in your position as a professional international proliferation threat analyst?

Oh, right.

Nothing.

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Doesn't matter.

In the bible, Iran attacks Israel with many Muslim Armies. Israel defeats them with the help of GOD.

Iran and their nuke program = fail = aint gonna happen.

Moving on...
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Grow UP.

Where is god and why would he wait until Israel is attacked by Iran. It is ancient propaganda and you are the ultimate tool to fall for the Jewish lie that they are chosen and god will save them.

The modern Jews hate god. THey worship satan.
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Although, as Hiroshima showed, 20kt would make a mess.
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no doubt, in a highly populated area it would leave nothing but death and destruction.
 Quoting: godzilla85


The Psychological impact would have far greater effect than the actualy yeild...even a shitty "A Bomb" is the ultimate terror device.
 Quoting: SHR


well put in the right place in can kill a hell of alot of people let alone the pyschological impact of it. America would literally be paralyzed overnight by such an event.
 Quoting: godzilla85


No doubt it could, but getting it to a "right place"?...not so easy either...lotta eyes around sniffing for just that sort of thing. However as I said...even if a simple A-Bomb was detonated offshore from somewhere as an act of war and killed few or none?...the entire civilized world would likely be paralized the next day...

Cruise into a port with one buried in the bowels of ship?
Instantly the entire world changes in a global security, geo-political, economic etc etc sense and the impact would be huge and IMO extremely negative ....this ain't the 1940's anymore...
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A little presumptuous to say they are BUILDING a nuclear bomb. But they are obviously looking into it.

Thanks for the thread Doorbert.

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Not really when you look at just how nuclear fission and Uranium-235 works due to it's nature.

See if I can explain real quick, simple and easy.

U-235 is the "good stuff" Uranium...less than 1% of natural or mined Uranium which is mostly the crap Uranium-238. The entire nuclear reaction industry, nuke power, simple nuke bombs etc etc is all based on U-235.

U-235 is a naturally fissionable isotope. What this means is that by it's own nature, it creates the nuclear fission reaction all by itself. More or less when one isotope of U-235 is near more U-235?...they fire atomic particles (Nuetrons) at each other, blowing hunks of particles off each other, creating fission, like little explosions at the atomic level, which the main by product of is heat. The chain reaction of blown off hunks hitting other hunks and particle firing keeps going all by itself.

So you mine up the crap high volume Uranium which contains very little of the "good stuff" U-235...you "enrich" that Uranium to isolate the U-235 out of it and the more you extract/enrich out?...or really remove the crap...the more you can do.

Enriched Uranium to varying rough degrees:

2-5% you have nuclear fuel rods, put rods near each other the natural reaction fight starts and generate a crap load of heat. All the massive tech and all the control rods etc etc is not to make the nuclear reaction happen, it's to control and operate it under control. A reactor fails when those control systems fail and nature takes over causing a runaway uncontrolled nuclear reaction, it then might meltdown etc etc.

20% you beging to reach "nuclear weapons usable"...you might get a dud, but you are going to get some sort of fission reaction going on that is well beyond what a nuclear power plant reactor could create and you are going to get a whole shitload of pissed off radioactive material launching particles at each other crapping off all sorts of harmful radioactive particles all over the place.

80%+ you have "weapons grade" Highly Enriched Uranium. The closer you get to 100%, which is more or less impossible, the better it works. This is the range where you can create what is called a "Critical Mass"...this is when you get enough of the U-235 in one place, that the naturally occuring fission reaction goes completely out of control (critical) and overwhelms itself...also known as a Hiroshima Bomb, bright white flash, big kaboom, humans melting at a bazzilion degrees, radiation all your face and all that happy time shit.

The Hiroshima bomb was effectively nothing more than a simple "critial mass" created inside a metal bomb housing. To create a critical mass all you need is about 120 lbs of 85% HEU...you want to make an "A bomb"?...all you do is make 2 60lb blocks...whack them together and boom der it is.

You can see how it will get more complicated to make whatever machanical stuff needed so that you can make your "A Bomb" go boom when and where you want it to and not vaporise yourself whacking your critical mass together, but in bare bones terms and in essense of the science that is exactly how it all works...and it works so well and MUST work that we (USA) didn't even bother to test the Hiroshima Gun type A-bomb before we dropped it on Japan...we were that sure that it could not possibly fail.

So really all this Iran rhetoric boils down to this simple law of nature. Once you make enough U-235 HEU? 120lbs?...you have the bomb....there is no building anything because that quantity all by itself due to the laws of nature IS the bomb.

Is it a MREV ICBM with 20 40kt high tech guided warheads "system"?...of course not...but it works...it can't NOT work...it's just that simple.
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Supposedly, not sure if it was bogus, but there was supposed to be some Mercury Nuclear material, called Red Nuclear Mercury, which was supposed to be more more yielding than U-235 Stuff. Not sure? As I'm sure there are covert and overt information that is out there, that can be misinformation, disinformation or real?? And Countries Propriety and Intellectual Property on Weapons Research is very hidden, deep in the bowels of most Intelligent Agencies of the Countries. So, I'm sure there's a hell-of-a-lot Weapons research and information, not disclosed among Powerful Countries of the World and even in the USA. And you can bet the farm on that!

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Doesn't matter.

In the bible, Iran attacks Israel with many Muslim Armies. Israel defeats them with the help of GOD.

Iran and their nuke program = fail = aint gonna happen.

Moving on...
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Grow UP.

Where is god and why would he wait until Israel is attacked by Iran. It is ancient propaganda and you are the ultimate tool to fall for the Jewish lie that they are chosen and god will save them.

The modern Jews hate god. THey worship satan.
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Buddy!, you've got much wrong:

#1 Grant it there are many Jews (not all) that feel they are the "Privileged Peoples" (which I don't subscribe to).

#2 More Jews will do other Jews in, as Sell-Out Jews, Non Stand Up Jews and Kapo Jews, as what happened in Nazi Germany (1932->1945), and what happened in Germany, will happen on this time U.S. Soil. Many work for USDOJ and Justice System as Federal Judges and Federal Prosecutors. Many should be "Tarred and Feathered" and hung for defying the "Constitutional Laws afforded to defendants".

#3 The Worst Enemy to a Jew, is a fellow Jew, so the Gentiles, and Muslims don't have anything to worry about, the Jews will do themselves in themselves.

#4 Grant it, Jews are very smart, some, but many are retarded and low I.Q'd. And that probably comes from inner Breeding among the race/religion, which has got to stop (Jews- Cousin marrying Cousins, or 2nd Cousins). That was the big problem in Germany (1932->1945) and that is what Hitler had a problem with, he 1st killed off the disabled peoples, retarded people and genetic Problem People, in Germany (costing the German Country much money for support), and many of these People were Jews. NY State starting a New Marriage DNA test, that is going to put this Close Relative marrying to a halt.

Just correcting you, buddy!

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