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BREAKING AP REPORT: Iran Building 50-Kiloton Nuke Bomb

 
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Why oh why oh why do people still keep grabing the BS bait and running around with it like it means anything but they want their freaking war.
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A diagram huh? Guess Bibi was right. But let's cut the MSM daily propaganda crap, Iran already has the bomb for some time now.


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TPTB, govt's and agencies don't want this to stop, i think the path we are heading is quite clear.

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And I'll bet ya this is where the info came from...

[link to joshuapundit.blogspot.com]

Friday, October 05, 2012
Ahmadinejad's Personal Cameraman Defects to US


It's been confirmed that Hassan Golkhanban, Iranian President Ahmadinejad's personal photographer has defected to the U.S., after sending his family out of the country to Turkey to ensure their safety.

Golkhanban and his family are now in an undisclosed location.

Golkhanban's U.S. attorney Paul O’Dwyer told CNN that Golkhanban is seeking asylum because “He’s perceived as not being a supporter, or being an opponent of the Iranian regime… somebody who has betrayed the regime and who can no longer be trusted by them.”

According to O'Dwyer, Golkhanban's application for asylum has been filed with the State Department.

It's worth noting that Golkhanban is no ordinary photographer. As Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's personal photographer, he followed the president everywhere, quite likely including a number of Iran's secret nuclear facilities.

There are a number of unconfirmed reports that Golkhanban brought with him a treasure trove of up-to-date photographs and videos of top Iranian leaders showing up-to-date details of those facilities.
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Song for you (Buddy- As the FBI, used that expression quite frequently)..

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How is the FBI connected with our chat here? 1dunno1
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"gun type" POS "device" type bomb.

They are easy to build...hell I could make a crude one easy enough..
Getting the HEU?.....not so easy, at all...but that's what of course the Iranians are doing.

Doubt they could ever do a 50kt yeild without a far more complicated and difficult to build plutonium bomb...
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To create the EMP effect talked about earlier, you must detonate a nuclear device at an altitude of 20 - 40 KM not 1 mile. I wish people did more homework before trying to quote facts.

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"gun type" POS "device" type bomb.

They are easy to build...hell I could make a crude one easy enough..
Getting the HEU?.....not so easy, at all...but that's what of course the Iranians are doing.

Doubt they could ever do a 50kt yeild without a far more complicated and difficult to build plutonium bomb...
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yeah the most they can probably get out of that is 20kt
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good - i doubt it will work so hopefully they will blowthemselvesup which is sad for some of the people , they need God not pedodeathcultsicko
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With their "radical Islam" and hate and avowed destruction of everything in the western world - these bastards MUST be stopped - one way or another. Diplomatic talks end up with us just being lied to again and again. Their ability to make these bombs needs to be destroyed for at least a decade if not for longer. And it needs to be done NOW! A delay of a few weeks could cost us a major European City or Tel Aviv or heaven alone knows what?
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The GUN type weapon that smashes two just slightly subcritical pieces of HEU together together are very limted but easy to make. a 50KT devices does require a more advanced trigger. Iran however has had plenty of time to develop it. Iran is a more advanced country than Pakistan and they have perfected the fissle device to make it compact enough to be delivered by balistic missles, I am certain Iran can do it.

An EMP attack on the US would be by far the most bang for the buck if Iran wanted to use a weapon.
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STARFISH prime was a high altitude test of a megaton class weapon that in the 50's shut down the elctric grid and radio communications in Hawaii 1500 miles away.
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"gun type" POS "device" type bomb.

They are easy to build...hell I could make a crude one easy enough..
Getting the HEU?.....not so easy, at all...but that's what of course the Iranians are doing.

Doubt they could ever do a 50kt yeild without a far more complicated and difficult to build plutonium bomb...
 Quoting: SHR


yeah the most they can probably get out of that is 20kt
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Although, as Hiroshima showed, 20kt would make a mess.
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To create the EMP effect talked about earlier, you must detonate a nuclear device at an altitude of 20 - 40 KM not 1 mile. I wish people did more homework before trying to quote facts.

[link to www.fas.org]
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The desried effects required to have a mass shut down on part of the continental United States would only need the weapon to be detonated at around 1 mile above the middle of the country.
The continental divide or Rocky Mountains, would block most of the EMP effects on the west coast.
However, the desired effect would occur throughout most of the rest of the United States, frying the majority of all electronic systems. It would not however, effect the entire continent as stated in your link.
But it doesnt need to. It just needs to effect a specific area large enough to shut down that part of the country to be successful.
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"gun type" POS "device" type bomb.

They are easy to build...hell I could make a crude one easy enough..
Getting the HEU?.....not so easy, at all...but that's what of course the Iranians are doing.

Doubt they could ever do a 50kt yeild without a far more complicated and difficult to build plutonium bomb...
 Quoting: SHR


yeah the most they can probably get out of that is 20kt
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Although, as Hiroshima showed, 20kt would make a mess.
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no doubt, in a highly populated area it would leave nothing but death and destruction.
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Where are they planning to launch that thing? The moon?

Something of that magnitude will fry their asses too. Like pissing in the wind.

That is really studid, even for them. What are they thinking, or ARE they thinking?

Thanks for bringing to light that kiloton of stupidity Doorbert:)
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You do realize that US has about 6000 nuclear bombs, and some of these bombs are several Megatons (100x more powerful that this one) ?
A 50 kilotons bomb is just a firecracker compare to this.
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Yes I do realize that, but the U.S. isn't in quite the unstable geographic location that Iran is in, nor is it slammed up against so many countries. Like in Europe for instance, where you can swing a cat and touch about four different countries.

Perhaps you want to celebrate with that 'firecracker' on your next Bastille Day.

Bon chance.
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diagram has been uncovered rofl
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Lots of vagueness about the origin of the document, and the channels through which it was passed.

But you know we'll make it news anyway 'cause we need good excuses to start bombing them ourselves.

Load of crapironi :) !
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Song for you (Buddy- As the FBI, used that expression quite frequently)..

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50kt is nothing nowadays
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let's do this thought experiment. Your neighbor is a bad neighbor . Every morning he threatens to hurt you. Can girls crossed at your window and tries to run over your cat . 1 day he screams out the window " I'm going to kill you I'm going to blow up your house! Just wait and see! leave this town now or I'll blow you up soon! ". You as a proud owner of a beautiful home for generations within your family have to make a choice. What will you do?
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A little presumptuous to say they are BUILDING a nuclear bomb. But they are obviously looking into it.

Thanks for the thread Doorbert.

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Someone shared a link a few months ago that allowed u to select a kiloton, then select a city to be able to see if you are in the kill zone. Anyone know what I am referring to? I am on my phone and can't search good.
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Hiroshima Bomb = 15-Kiloton
Nagasaki Bomb = 15 to 20-Kiloton

And most made by other countries are upward of 100 kiloton.

High yeild nukes and hydrogens.
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To create the EMP effect talked about earlier, you must detonate a nuclear device at an altitude of 20 - 40 KM not 1 mile. I wish people did more homework before trying to quote facts.

[link to www.fas.org]
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Also, the Shahab 3 which is mass prduced in Iran, can fly in its final stage up to Mach 7 and capable of flying at much higher if needed than the required 20-40 KM.

The Shahab-3B differs from the basic production variant. It has improvements to its guidance system and warhead, a few small changes on the missile body, and a new re-entry vehicle whose terminal guidance system and rocket-nozzle steering method are completely different from the Shahab-3A's spin-stabilized re-entry vehicle.
he new re-entry vehicle uses a triconic aeroshell geometry (or 'baby bottle' design) which improves the overall lift to drag ratio for the re-entry vehicle. This allows greater range maneuverability which can result in better precision. The triconic design also reduces the overall size of the warhead from an estimated 1 metric ton (2,200 lb) to 700 kg (1,500 lb).The rocket-nozzle control system allows the missile to change its trajectory several times during re-entry and even terminal phase, effectively preventing interceptor guidance via trajectory prediction by early warning radar - a method nearly all long range ABM systems use. As a high-speed ballistic missile and pre-mission fueling capability, the Shahab-3 has an extremely short launch/impact time ratio. This means that the INS/gyroscope guidance would also remain relatively accurate until impact (important, given the fact that the gyroscopes tend to lose accuracy with longer flights). The CEP is estimated to be at 30–50 metres (98–160 ft) or less.[9] However, the accuracy of the missile is largely speculative and cannot be confidently predicted for wartime situations.[10]
These improvements would greatly increase the Shahab-3B's survivability against ABM systems such as Israel's Arrow 2 missile as well as being used for precision attacks against high value targets such as command, control and communications centres.

Little is known about Shahab-3C and Shahab-3D. From what can be gathered, the missiles have an improved precision, navigation system, and a longer range. The missiles were indigenously developed, and are being mass produced. Iran has a production capacity of 70 units per year.

Now the only question is can a Shahab 3C or 3D be fitted for a nuclear weapon, and can just one missle get from Iran to the Gulf? The missle isnt that big or tall. 54 feet long 3 feet wide.
According to the link, "The Shahab 3 could use a nuclear warhead similar to the warhead design sold by A.Q. Khan to Libya."
[link to missilethreat.com]
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Hiroshima Bomb = 15-Kiloton
Nagasaki Bomb = 15 to 20-Kiloton

And most made by other countries are upward of 100 kiloton.

High yeild nukes and hydrogens.
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Tsar Bomb in Soviet Union was estimated 60 Megatons. The Science to building super Powerful Hydrogen Bombs have been on the drawing bombs for over 40+ years. Actually supposedly, there's a Bomb (Developed in Theory, no-one says if it was actually made, that would be 400+ Megatons). That would take out most of upper East coast and probably made a crack in the Earths Crust and perhaps Earth??.

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Someone shared a link a few months ago that allowed u to select a kiloton, then select a city to be able to see if you are in the kill zone. Anyone know what I am referring to? I am on my phone and can't search good.
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Don't have the link, but I know which one you mean.
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Tsar Bomb in Soviet Union was estimated 60 Megatons. The Science to building super Powerful Hydrogen Bombs have been on the drawing bombs for over 40+ years. Actually supposedly, there's a Bomb (Developed in Theory, no-one says if it was actually made, that would be 400+ Megatons). That would take out most of upper East coast and probably made a crack in the Earths Crust and perhaps Earth??.


Theres been alot since Tsar.

We just dont know, theyve grown exponentially since the 60s and 70s.

A 400KT would prolly crack earth in half given the latest seismic and geologic crap going on.
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So that whole cartoon picture of the RED LINE has been updated?
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Tsar Bomb in Soviet Union was estimated 60 Megatons. The Science to building super Powerful Hydrogen Bombs have been on the drawing bombs for over 40+ years. Actually supposedly, there's a Bomb (Developed in Theory, no-one says if it was actually made, that would be 400+ Megatons). That would take out most of upper East coast and probably made a crack in the Earths Crust and perhaps Earth??.

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The eruption of the Kraktoa volcano in 1883 was apparently only 200MT.
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"gun type" POS "device" type bomb.

They are easy to build...hell I could make a crude one easy enough..
Getting the HEU?.....not so easy, at all...but that's what of course the Iranians are doing.

Doubt they could ever do a 50kt yeild without a far more complicated and difficult to build plutonium bomb...
 Quoting: SHR


yeah the most they can probably get out of that is 20kt
 Quoting: godzilla85


Although, as Hiroshima showed, 20kt would make a mess.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


no doubt, in a highly populated area it would leave nothing but death and destruction.
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The Psychological impact would have far greater effect than the actualy yeild...even a shitty "A Bomb" is the ultimate terror device.
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