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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/28/2012 08:19 AM
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Lisa, I know it's an impossible senario. But do you think he would break the Torah? His promise to last until the earth fades away?
I don't believe in God.
TheSeventhGate

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11/28/2012 08:20 AM
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You're very welcome, I would implore you to research British Israelism. It will really help you to see where you went wrong. I ended up at the stage too when I considered myself more Jew than Christian but then I received the final jigsaw piece and everything fell into place and it can for you too as well, you are so close to an amazing Revelation.

Here is another great site/piece.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


The Jews denied Christ. They do not have the truth either.

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

All life comes through Him and Him alone. He is the key to eternal life, everything else is a lie.

:yah2:
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If Yeshua walked the earth as one of us today, would he be a Torah follower like he was. Or would he do away with it like Christians do?
Important question, because that's how he'd want you to walk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


Jesus was not one of us. He was God in the flesh. He came to fulfill His purpose, which was to die for our sins.

Your scenario is impossible to answer because you're putting the egg before the chicken.

But again.....what does any of this mean to you if you don't believe in God at all? You claim to be an atheist.

Do you still deny the creator OP?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


More wretched false teachings. Yeshua is the Son of God, not God himself. That is blasphemy and idolatry to suggest otherwise.

And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. John 5:37

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Matthew 3:17
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
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The very first step in loosing your faith and your salvation is believing the lie that the OT law is still in effect and that paul was a false apostle. This is the first step in falling away.

Satan got his clutches into you when you first believed that lie, then it all went downhill from there.

Come back to the faith, Come back to Jesus, He is the truth, the life and the way to the Kingdom of God.

Everything else is a lie from the pit designed to do exactly what happened to you.

:knocking3693:
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


The great falling away has commenced and the Synagogue of Satan is growing in numbers and strength.

For anyone to embrace the law of commandments contained in ordinances IS to deny Christ.

They MUST get rid of Paul because it was his ministry that set the gentiles on the path, without Paul the gospel was false and ordinances still supreme. Anyway, Paul always DEFENDED the law given at Sinai, but he expounded the shortcomings of it in relation to our state.

Anyway, the OP did not come to this conclusion by himself and may never have been a christian, you just simply don't know. It's easy to say you were a christian but through study have proven that false and turned atheist... but I believe this OP was ALWAYS atheist and is trying to cull the sheep.
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Lisa, I know it's an impossible senario. But do you think he would break the Torah? His promise to last until the earth fades away?
I don't believe in God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


No, He could not break the Torah. He couldn't be the sacrifice for us if He had broken it.

But, why do the details matter if you deny the whole?
TheSeventhGate

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11/28/2012 08:21 AM
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Oh yeah, correct!
We may of been similar when I was at my strongest point in faith. When I was more Jew than Christian.
Thanks for your posts
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


You're very welcome, I would implore you to research British Israelism. It will really help you to see where you went wrong. I ended up at the stage too when I considered myself more Jew than Christian but then I received the final jigsaw piece and everything fell into place and it can for you too as well, you are so close to an amazing Revelation.

Here is another great site/piece.

[link to www.hope-of-israel.org]
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


The Jews denied Christ. They do not have the truth either.

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

All life comes through Him and Him alone. He is the key to eternal life, everything else is a lie.

:yah2:
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


If Yeshua walked the earth as one of us today, would he be a Torah follower like he was. Or would he do away with it like Christians do?
Important question, because that's how he'd want you to walk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


And of course he would be a Torah follower as he was the first time he was here and as his disciples, we are meant to imitate him.
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
Anonymous Coward
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11/28/2012 08:22 AM
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God's Word was given in such a way by Him that it cannot be understood unless you have been born again.....and have His Spirit living inside you.

Unbelievers can only properly grasp the Gospel message.....and they can choose whether to accept it or reject it.


All else in the Bible will be foolishness to them. Someone without the Spirit will not be able to comprehend the Scriptures......as you need God's help to understand it.


The disciples walked with Christ for 3 years.......but did NOT comprehend the Sciptures......until Christ died and rose again......and was walking with them......and "opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures."
(Luke 24: 45)


A person must come to Christ by faith. After that, God will help you understand His Word. That is one of the functions of the Holy Spirit.


Many people OP claim to be Christians but are not.


You for example set it unpon yourself to do human research to analyze and discard various concepts from Scripture.....like it was a science project.


With all their human efforts......people want to prove God into existence....or out of existence. etc., etc., etc.


The only way to come to Christ however is by faith.....believing in Him.....giving your life to Him.....without actually seeing Him.


God Himself directs His children to ask Him for wisdom (James 1). And if you have faith.....and are one of His children.....he will give it to you. He will then open your eyes to comprehend the Scriptures.
TheSeventhGate

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11/28/2012 08:24 AM
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Who are you to judge the OP like that and speak like you know what went on in his mind and heart? You have no place to do so.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


I speak the truth here through the power of the Holy Spirit.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with Him.

:sword3634:
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


You speak from your own deceptive heart. You are not even born-again of the Spirit above so that is not true for if you were you would not constantly resist the will of God and be a lawless apostate anti-Christ who has made Saul your Messiah, not Yeshua.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


Careful there Ireland, did you enjoy the ban last time? Phen is watching.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


ha that is funny. We are on even ground now since I am a paying member and I am fully free to respond to who I want too. Did you think you were shot of me and that you would be free to plant your rotten seeds all over this site? Maybe I should start reporting you now for responding to me. Careful Lisa, God is watching!

Last Edited by TheSeventhGate on 11/28/2012 08:35 AM
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/28/2012 08:28 AM
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SeventhGate is actually spot on from what I've heard. The rest would do to listen to him if you want to follow the original faith. Christiandom is corrupt and far, far from it's roots.
I must get off now.
Thanks to everyone for chatting, and to thoughs that actually care for my soul (even though I don't believe they exist).
Life and Love

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11/28/2012 08:29 AM
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In your original post, you said you have done "research" to prove certain claims false, though you never stated what that "research" was and what claims you were considering.

So rather than have you type a bunch of stuff that you are so hesitant to shae, I am going to make a fresh claim for your consideration and research:

You are a unique fingerprint of your Creator. He pursues you passionately and loves you furiously. You are a being of incredible value and worth. You are even worthy enough to die for, which is exactly what Jesus did.

God doesn't keep score, so you can't run up one high enough to "qualify" for whatever you think the afterlife is all about. You can't rationalize, prove, or think your way into the Kingdom of God.

You are fearful of something. It comes through strongly in your posts. The only way to get rid of fear (of any kind) is to open up your heart to receive the love of Jesus.

You will find many people teasing you with more knowledge or more "special insight" or more web sites to visit. Some of them have already posted here. You may or may not respond to them. You may or may not choose to respond to me. In a way that doesn't matter much. But what will matter for all eternity is your responsiveness to Christ.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/28/2012 08:32 AM
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God's Word was given in such a way by Him that it cannot be understood unless you have been born again.....and have His Spirit living inside you.

Unbelievers can only properly grasp the Gospel message.....and they can choose whether to accept it or reject it.


All else in the Bible will be foolishness to them. Someone without the Spirit will not be able to comprehend the Scriptures......as you need God's help to understand it.


The disciples walked with Christ for 3 years.......but did NOT comprehend the Sciptures......until Christ died and rose again......and was walking with them......and "opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures."
(Luke 24: 45)


A person must come to Christ by faith. After that, God will help you understand His Word. That is one of the functions of the Holy Spirit.


Many people OP claim to be Christians but are not.


You for example set it unpon yourself to do human research to analyze and discard various concepts from Scripture.....like it was a science project.


With all their human efforts......people want to prove God into existence....or out of existence. etc., etc., etc.


The only way to come to Christ however is by faith.....believing in Him.....giving your life to Him.....without actually seeing Him.


God Himself directs His children to ask Him for wisdom (James 1). And if you have faith.....and are one of His children.....he will give it to you. He will then open your eyes to comprehend the Scriptures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27748702


Actually your 100% wrong about me. I was born again, I followed more blindly and faithfully than nearly anyone I've met.. Never treated it as an experiment. Many die through lack of knowledge.
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The very first step in loosing your faith and your salvation is believing the lie that the OT law is still in effect and that paul was a false apostle. This is the first step in falling away.

Satan got his clutches into you when you first believed that lie, then it all went downhill from there.

Come back to the faith, Come back to Jesus, He is the truth, the life and the way to the Kingdom of God.

Everything else is a lie from the pit designed to do exactly what happened to you.

:knocking3693:
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


WITHOUT FAITH IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE GOD
TheSeventhGate

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The very first step in loosing your faith and your salvation is believing the lie that the OT law is still in effect and that paul was a false apostle. This is the first step in falling away.

Satan got his clutches into you when you first believed that lie, then it all went downhill from there.

Come back to the faith, Come back to Jesus, He is the truth, the life and the way to the Kingdom of God.

Everything else is a lie from the pit designed to do exactly what happened to you.

:knocking3693:
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Total rubbish! Beware of these false teachers OP, they will lead you straight to the Lake of Fire. Saul/Paul was a false Prophet. He was not one of the 12 Apostles, therefore he had zero Authority and had no right to say the Law was finished. The Catholic Church even admitted to only adding him to the Canon because his writings were edifying. He was anti-Law and Yeshua and the REAL Apostles were Pro-Law.

Great sites exposing that viper.

[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]

[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
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In your original post, you said you have done "research" to prove certain claims false, though you never stated what that "research" was and what claims you were considering.

So rather than have you type a bunch of stuff that you are so hesitant to shae, I am going to make a fresh claim for your consideration and research:

You are a unique fingerprint of your Creator. He pursues you passionately and loves you furiously. You are a being of incredible value and worth. You are even worthy enough to die for, which is exactly what Jesus did.

God doesn't keep score, so you can't run up one high enough to "qualify" for whatever you think the afterlife is all about. You can't rationalize, prove, or think your way into the Kingdom of God.

You are fearful of something. It comes through strongly in your posts. The only way to get rid of fear (of any kind) is to open up your heart to receive the love of Jesus.

You will find many people teasing you with more knowledge or more "special insight" or more web sites to visit. Some of them have already posted here. You may or may not respond to them. You may or may not choose to respond to me. In a way that doesn't matter much. But what will matter for all eternity is your responsiveness to Christ.
 Quoting: Life and Love


I have no fear of god.
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SeventhGate is actually spot on from what I've heard. The rest would do to listen to him if you want to follow the original faith. Christiandom is corrupt and far, far from it's roots.
I must get off now.
Thanks to everyone for chatting, and to thoughs that actually care for my soul (even though I don't believe they exist).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


Following teachings like that is what led to your complete and total loss of faith and falling away from God.

You even admitted it yourself OP. Come back to the Lord Jesus and let Him heal your heart. He is the truth.
Life and Love

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In your original post, you said you have done "research" to prove certain claims false, though you never stated what that "research" was and what claims you were considering.

So rather than have you type a bunch of stuff that you are so hesitant to shae, I am going to make a fresh claim for your consideration and research:

You are a unique fingerprint of your Creator. He pursues you passionately and loves you furiously. You are a being of incredible value and worth. You are even worthy enough to die for, which is exactly what Jesus did.

God doesn't keep score, so you can't run up one high enough to "qualify" for whatever you think the afterlife is all about. You can't rationalize, prove, or think your way into the Kingdom of God.

You are fearful of something. It comes through strongly in your posts. The only way to get rid of fear (of any kind) is to open up your heart to receive the love of Jesus.

You will find many people teasing you with more knowledge or more "special insight" or more web sites to visit. Some of them have already posted here. You may or may not respond to them. You may or may not choose to respond to me. In a way that doesn't matter much. But what will matter for all eternity is your responsiveness to Christ.
 Quoting: Life and Love


I have no fear of god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


I didn't identify the source of your fear, just that you were afraid. I don't know you well enough to be specific. Just remember that the only antidote to that fear is in our developing a life-lasting relationship with Jesus.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Again.....you are not saved by scientific research.....so do not waste your time.


People can only come to the Father through Christ.....and by faith.


If you want to do some research......then learn what faith is.
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SeventhGate is actually spot on from what I've heard. The rest would do to listen to him if you want to follow the original faith. Christiandom is corrupt and far, far from it's roots.
I must get off now.
Thanks to everyone for chatting, and to thoughs that actually care for my soul (even though I don't believe they exist).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


Anytime. I believe soon you will come back into the fold. You will be in my prayers. God bless, guide and keep you.
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
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hello OP

There are some things that I agree with you on and some things that I don't



I agree with you on the trinity being a false doctrine .... it was instituted in 325 ad at the Nicene Council by the Catholic Church

if you study the beginnings of the Catholic Church through independent sources and even the Catholic Churches own records you will find that when Constatine supposedly "converted" to Christianity .... The Pagan priests converted to Christianity too ..... what they did was bring a lot of Pagan traditions from their previous pagan religion over into the Christian church


the human launguage loses all meaning if you say that 3 separate persons equal 1 God

if you can understand how a human being exists as a triune being then then you can understand the Godhead

my name is Johnny .....that's what my parents named this human body

The real me is an invisible spirit that we call the soul....that is who I really am

That soul resides in a human body named Johnny ....this human body has a human spirit attached to that constitutes bodily senses

see,taste ,hearing,touching ,smell

It also has senses like reasoning, affection .....etc...etc....

God didn't send a separate person "his Son" to take our place on the cross....what kind of God would do that?

If you where married with a son and someone kidnapped your wife .....would you send your son or would you as her husband , go yourself?

Jehovah God ....created a human body that had it own human spirit and he indwelt that body and the name of that body was Jesus

the soul of Jesus was Jehovah God

the body and the human spirit in that body was not God because God is a spirit and can't be seen as the Bible says

What people don't understand is that every single human being is invisible and can't be seen either ....

If you can truly understand that ...then you can start to understand the Godhead ....

the soul of Jesus is God ..... The body of God is what we call Jesus Christ the Messiah ....his Human spirit was perfect and without any faults...his human spirit is the Holy Spirit

The Holy Spirit is the nature that dwelt in Jesus Christ and when we are born again then that Spirit(nature) dwells in us and it changes our own flawed human spirit so that we no longer desire the things of the world ....now the Body will always desire the evil things of this world I because it is corruptible and it always will be

Born again believers are in affect two people in one......we have what the outward man desires....and what the inward man desires

That's why Jesus could say in the Garden ....not my will but thine be done...

I do the same thing.....when a very sexy looking lady walks by me .....my senses pick that up.....my eyes see here.....my nose smells her perfume and my human body desires the female but the inward man doesn't want anything to do with that because I know that the end result of sin is death ...so I say the same thing that Jesus said.....not my will(will of the flesh) but thine be done


the scriptures confirm that Jesus was The one and only true God ...

Jesus nstructed his disciples to baptize people in the name of the Father ,the Son and the Holy Ghost

yet when you read anytime that any of the disciples or Paul baptized people they baptized the in the name of Jesus Christ ......

That's because the disciples had a revelation of what he said ....

Because the name of God is Jesus Christ


Where I disagree with you is your belief about the Apostle Paul .....
Well I guess you are an atheist so I disagree with you on a lot of things concerning the Bible .....

Anyways ....I hope that you have found the answers that you have been looking for and if not then I pray that you will find them
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SeventhGate is actually spot on from what I've heard. The rest would do to listen to him if you want to follow the original faith. Christiandom is corrupt and far, far from it's roots.
I must get off now.
Thanks to everyone for chatting, and to thoughs that actually care for my soul (even though I don't believe they exist).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


Following teachings like that is what led to your complete and total loss of faith and falling away from God.

You even admitted it yourself OP. Come back to the Lord Jesus and let Him heal your heart. He is the truth.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I didn't say or mean that. My strongest faith in God was in that belief. The end came from realising that the gospels were not written by any of Yeshua's disciples. There origins are very if'y. Made by many people.
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SeventhGate is actually spot on from what I've heard. The rest would do to listen to him if you want to follow the original faith. Christiandom is corrupt and far, far from it's roots.
I must get off now.
Thanks to everyone for chatting, and to thoughs that actually care for my soul (even though I don't believe they exist).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28601458


Following teachings like that is what led to your complete and total loss of faith and falling away from God.

You even admitted it yourself OP. Come back to the Lord Jesus and let Him heal your heart. He is the truth.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I didn't say or mean that. My strongest faith in God was in that belief. The end came from realising that the gospels were not written by any of Yeshua's disciples. There origins are very if'y. Made by many people.
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OP, the truth is so simple that a small child can understand it.

Love the Lord with your whole heart, and Love your neighbor as yourself.

Come back to the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords because He is worthy of praise!
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He gave you your mouth, yet you use it to speak against Him.

He gave you those fingers, the fingers that type the words "I don't believe in God".

He gave you your brain, but you used it against Him.

He gave you your eyes, but you read the lies and believed them.

He gave you ears, but you listened to the enemy.

He gives you life, but you deny His existence.

He showers you with gifts each and every day of your life, your breath, your food, your water, the people you love, and yet you say He doesn't exist..when in fact you know He does.

Even so, He still loves you and waits for you to return to Him.

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OP.I realized the very same thing two years ago.
The more I read the bible the more contradictions I saw.
The OT god was a blood thirsty god bent on destruction.
I could not follow a god that acted in that manner.
More people are waking up.
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OP is too bad that you are becoming athiest because of Paul and bible contradictions.
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You might have "done alot" OP, but you didn't feel Him because if you have ever felt Him, you would never be able to turn your back on Him.

Your faith was shallow, alot of "doing stuff" instead of "feeling Him" and building a real personal relationship with Him.

There was no trust and love on your part. That's what happened.

Now you try and find solace in turning your back on Him, and I guarantee you, you'll never find real peace in that.

There really is no such thing as an atheist because we are all connected to God, and we all rely on Him for every breath we take. You don't know that you're connected to Him until you're disconnected. It's almost like breathing, you don't realize that you need oxygen to live until you don't have it anymore. Then, you know it's true, but it's too late because that oxygen is gone.

I hope you come back before you take that last breath because after that, it's too late.
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Who are you to judge the OP like that and speak like you know what went on in his mind and heart? You have no place to do so.
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I speak the truth here through the power of the Holy Spirit.

If you have a problem with that, take it up with Him.

:sword3634:
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You speak from your own deceptive heart. You are not even born-again of the Spirit above so that is not true for if you were you would not constantly resist the will of God and be a lawless apostate anti-Christ who has made Saul your Messiah, not Yeshua.
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ha that is funny. We are on even ground now since I am a paying member and I am fully free to respond to who I want too. Did you think you were shot of me and that you would be free to plant your rotten seeds all over this site? Maybe I should start reporting you now for responding to me. Careful Lisa, God is watching!
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hey mick, newsflash, an enhanced account does not give anyone the 'freedom' to stalk/harass. cross the line douche canoe, and ill nuke your acct faster than oprah going after the last fuckin chicken leg. ill toss in a perma ban just for shitz & giggles.

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Absurd.
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

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"Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified."

Galatians 2:16
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You shall have no other gods before me is one of the Ten Commandments found in the Hebrew Bible (לא יהיה־לך אלהים אחרים על־פני Exodus 20:3 = Deuteronomy 5:7)

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


Which one of them you believe to be a liar then?


Let me help, if its the original GOD or father you accuse of lying, then your other belief being built upon it is utter rubbish.

If it be the second, then truly he is satan.


You really should read this great book of genocides of which you quote.
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all christians are in denial. they so want to believe in a god they lose all sense of reality and just let themselves be brainwashed
..why don't you take a seat over there
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Hi, How does it feel to revolve your entire life around a false deity that doesn't exist, Just curious...
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Most that I've met are willing to be ignorant about what the truth is. It doesn't come across like they care about if what they believe is wrong. You can't blame them, we are all human.

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