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Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in

 
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no, the moron who posted that doesn't know wtf he's talking about. he's probably trying to figure out a way to blame obama is i type this.
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Lol, if you ever see him in a thread just make your story more exaggerated than his. It shuts him right up :)
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[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Hes talking about shit like this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Yup, and the women that got sued when a burglar cut himself on a kitchen knife while crawling through a window...everyone has heard these crazy cases...
 Quoting: BRIEF


link? never heard of that one. the huffington post article and these killings are not similar at all btw
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"...Brady's sister, Crystal Schaeffel, told the Star Tribune that Kifer had stolen prescription drugs from her home before. Little Falls police records show Crystal Schaeffel reported a theft Aug. 28, but the department said the report was not public because that investigation was continuing and because it named juveniles."

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Slain Minn. teens may be tied to earlier burglary

LITTLE FALLS, Minn.—The teenage cousins shot and killed during an alleged home burglary on Thanksgiving Day may have committed a similar crime a day earlier at a house nearby, authorities said.

Intruders broke into the Little Falls home of retired teacher Richard L. Johnson on November 21 and stole coins and prescription medication. Johnson was overseas at the time.

Johnson said the items he reported stolen included less than $5 worth of pennies kept in a box on his dresser, silver and copper coins from foreign countries, and an assortment of prescription medication, including drugs for diabetes and controlling cholesterol. Johnson, 68, said the thieves had broken a sliding glass door at his house.

Before the burglary had been discovered, deputies were called to the neighborhood because a red Mitsubishi Eclipse was spotted in the driveway of Johnson's empty house, Morrison County Sheriff Michel Wetzel said. Nicholas Brady, 17, had been driving that car, although it wasn't registered to him. Deputies questioned him then let him go, Wetzel said.

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Sounds like the girl may have had a taste for pills. Cute girl too, at least in this pic: [link to stmedia.startribune.com]

Here's a theory-- pills for poontang? Were they maybe a little more than kissin' cousins? He helps her score pills, in exchange he gets to enjoy the benefits of her getting buzzed?
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11/28/2012 11:16 AM
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Lol, if you ever see him in a thread just make your story more exaggerated than his. It shuts him right up :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28581989


[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Hes talking about shit like this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Yup, and the women that got sued when a burglar cut himself on a kitchen knife while crawling through a window...everyone has heard these crazy cases...
 Quoting: BRIEF


link? never heard of that one. the huffington post article and these killings are not similar at all btw
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


[link to www.cbsnews.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

google search, took 2 seconds.

it happens.
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11/28/2012 11:18 AM

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That's a tuff call. Wounding someone in your house then killing them while there down,guess you have emotions and possessions that control you in those high stress situations.
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11/28/2012 11:20 AM
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[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Hes talking about shit like this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Yup, and the women that got sued when a burglar cut himself on a kitchen knife while crawling through a window...everyone has heard these crazy cases...
 Quoting: BRIEF


link? never heard of that one. the huffington post article and these killings are not similar at all btw
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


[link to www.cbsnews.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

google search, took 2 seconds.

it happens.
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thanks, i know how google works. just wanted to make you do it for me
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Another thing, when Secret Service members retire they are referred to as State Dept. security officers. This guy was likely former Secret Service. You just don't fuck with those bastards.
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11/28/2012 11:23 AM
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Yup, and the women that got sued when a burglar cut himself on a kitchen knife while crawling through a window...everyone has heard these crazy cases...
 Quoting: BRIEF


link? never heard of that one. the huffington post article and these killings are not similar at all btw
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


[link to www.cbsnews.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

google search, took 2 seconds.

it happens.
 Quoting: Oyster


thanks, i know how google works. just wanted to make you do it for me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


you are so cool
:com:
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[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Hes talking about shit like this.
 Quoting: Sneetch


Yup, and the women that got sued when a burglar cut himself on a kitchen knife while crawling through a window...everyone has heard these crazy cases...
 Quoting: BRIEF


link? never heard of that one. the huffington post article and these killings are not similar at all btw
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


[link to www.cbsnews.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

google search, took 2 seconds.

it happens.
 Quoting: Oyster


three of those links discuss civil lawsuits which will more than likely be immediately thrown out. how does that have anything to do with criminal charges against the homeowners?

one of those links is about a situation that occured in england. can you explain how that relates to american law?
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11/28/2012 11:25 AM
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If someone breaks into your house, you need to comply with them, show them where all the expensive jewelry and cash is. Give it to them.

Offer them dinner.

Tell them when you get paid next so they can do it again.

DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.

If your house is getting robbed, you deserve it and need to let it happen.

AGAIN, DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.
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11/28/2012 11:26 AM
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If someone breaks into your house, you need to comply with them, show them where all the expensive jewelry and cash is. Give it to them.

Offer them dinner.

Tell them when you get paid next so they can do it again.

DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.

If your house is getting robbed, you deserve it and need to let it happen.

AGAIN, DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.
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you're an idiot
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11/28/2012 11:27 AM
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Another thing, when Secret Service members retire they are referred to as State Dept. security officers. This guy was likely former Secret Service. You just don't fuck with those bastards.
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Unless you're a Columbian hooker.

5a
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11/28/2012 11:28 AM
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Yup, and the women that got sued when a burglar cut himself on a kitchen knife while crawling through a window...everyone has heard these crazy cases...
 Quoting: BRIEF


link? never heard of that one. the huffington post article and these killings are not similar at all btw
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


[link to www.cbsnews.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

google search, took 2 seconds.

it happens.
 Quoting: Oyster


three of those links discuss civil lawsuits which will more than likely be immediately thrown out. how does that have anything to do with criminal charges against the homeowners?

one of those links is about a situation that occured in england. can you explain how that relates to american law?
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no comment? that's what i thought
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11/28/2012 11:31 AM
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Does the media ever use the term

'COLD BLOOD'


when reporting about home invasions where the homeowner is killed?!?!?!?!
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11/28/2012 11:32 AM
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link? never heard of that one. the huffington post article and these killings are not similar at all btw
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


[link to www.cbsnews.com]

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

google search, took 2 seconds.

it happens.
 Quoting: Oyster


three of those links discuss civil lawsuits which will more than likely be immediately thrown out. how does that have anything to do with criminal charges against the homeowners?

one of those links is about a situation that occured in england. can you explain how that relates to american law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


no comment? that's what i thought
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


sorry i am not jumping all over your responses.

brief's comment was about civil lawsuits not criminal charges so i am not sure what you are getting at.
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11/28/2012 11:33 AM
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What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker!
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IF anyone tries to break into my house, THEN they will be lucky if all i do to them is blow their fucking head off.


**HEY KIDS**** don't do what they did...

DON'T STEAL

DON'T BE A SCUMBAG

AND YOU WON'T HAVE YOUR HEAD BLOWN OFF...

PRETTY.FUCKING.SIMPLE.
Disinformation Tards: F-OFF!
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11/28/2012 11:36 AM

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They were criminals... Don't break into other people's houses! Sorry but I don't feel bad for anybody killed when they break into another persons home.
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 Quoting: Oyster


three of those links discuss civil lawsuits which will more than likely be immediately thrown out. how does that have anything to do with criminal charges against the homeowners?

one of those links is about a situation that occured in england. can you explain how that relates to american law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


no comment? that's what i thought
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


sorry i am not jumping all over your responses.

brief's comment was about civil lawsuits not criminal charges so i am not sure what you are getting at.
 Quoting: Oyster


you're right. i got a little side tracked. however, he said they will sue and take your house. which is complete nonsense and propaganda for dumb people
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Does the media ever use the term

'COLD BLOOD'


when reporting about home invasions where the homeowner is killed?!?!?!?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787


No. because the liberal media still looks at the intruders as the victim.
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker!
 Quoting: strikeforce1


IF anyone tries to break into my house, THEN they will be lucky if all i do to them is blow their fucking head off.


**HEY KIDS**** don't do what they did...

DON'T STEAL

DON'T BE A SCUMBAG

AND YOU WON'T HAVE YOUR HEAD BLOWN OFF...

PRETTY.FUCKING.SIMPLE.
 Quoting: CaseLogic


well, you'll be locked up too. pretty.fucking.simple
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Does the media ever use the term

'COLD BLOOD'


when reporting about home invasions where the homeowner is killed?!?!?!?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787


No. because the liberal media still looks at the intruders as the victim.
 Quoting: Hitokiri


how so? can you give me an example?
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?? idk what to think.


given the limited information..guess i have to fall on the side of the property owner.
not guilty.

those kids put themselves into that position, not even saying they were bad kids- they just made a really bad choice.
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limited info? we know the kids were unarmed. we know the kids were shot in the legs and rendered immobile. we know the homeowner then executed these kids unnecessarily. he even admitted taking it too far. what else is there to find out about this case?
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well in that case my verdict stands..not guilty.

people sneaking around in my house will be fired upon until the threat is stopped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


no shit. he's not guilty in your eyes despite what logic, the law, and human compassion says
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lack of logic, disobeying the law & disregarding human compassion was in fact what caused the entire mess.
their choice to violate someone elses property.

the property owner- forced by the kids- to draw & shoot his weapon..
this traumatic experience caused a serious mental shock which led to the owners irrational behavior.
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thumbs down for this mother fucker, hope he is taught the meaning of mercy when they send his sick ass to the big house, finnish shot, what a pc-o-shit. miserable bastard sounds to me like he just had a hankering to kill something.
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No, not justified. His actions quite clearly went way beyond any conceivable measures of self-defense. He should and will go to prison for the rest of his life.
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I agree in this instance.
What he did was absolutely disgusting. They weren't even armed and one was a young girl...ffs....
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limited info? we know the kids were unarmed. we know the kids were shot in the legs and rendered immobile. we know the homeowner then executed these kids unnecessarily. he even admitted taking it too far. what else is there to find out about this case?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070

well in that case my verdict stands..not guilty.

people sneaking around in my house will be fired upon until the threat is stopped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


no shit. he's not guilty in your eyes despite what logic, the law, and human compassion says
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lack of logic, disobeying the law & disregarding human compassion was in fact what caused the entire mess.
their choice to violate someone elses property.

the property owner- forced by the kids- to draw & shoot his weapon..
this traumatic experience caused a serious mental shock which led to the owners irrational behavior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


so the unarmed, wounded teenage girl forced him to put a gun to her chin and pull the trigger? is that really what you're saying?
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11/28/2012 11:48 AM
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after researching some of Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 posts it appears he is only interested in trolling.
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If I am a juror:

As for unpremeditated murder in the 2nd degree of the male = Not Guilty.

As for the same charge with regard to the female = Guilty.

The situation had changed significantly between the two deaths, and the second person (female) was killed execution style, when no further fear for his life could be demonstrated.

He'll go to jail for killing the girl, and the lapse in judgement when he didn't call the cops.
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I think if someone breaks into your home, your sanctuary, it should be legal to torture, rape, or do anything you damn well please to them...
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you're a sick fuck
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Don't steal.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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If I am a juror:

As for unpremeditated murder in the 2nd degree of the male = Not Guilty.

As for the same charge with regard to the female = Guilty.

The situation had changed significantly between the two deaths, and the second person (female) was killed execution style, when no further fear for his life could be demonstrated.

He'll go to jail for killing the girl, and the lapse in judgement when he didn't call the cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15091083


I think if someone breaks into your home, your sanctuary, it should be legal to torture, rape, or do anything you damn well please to them...
 Quoting: BRIEF


you're a sick fuck
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Don't steal.
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don't murder, torture and rape because you think it's ok
BRIEF
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That's a tuff call. Wounding someone in your house then killing them while there down,guess you have emotions and possessions that control you in those high stress situations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Doug


Like I tell my kids: My home, my rules, don't like it then leave.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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If someone breaks into your house, you need to comply with them, show them where all the expensive jewelry and cash is. Give it to them.

Offer them dinner.

Tell them when you get paid next so they can do it again.

DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.

If your house is getting robbed, you deserve it and need to let it happen.

AGAIN, DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16457740


LOL! Don't forget to suck their dick too!!

Karma is the reason you got robbed!!
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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don't break into somebody els's house.
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clappa

It's too bad he had to kill the chick, she was a hottie. He could have made her his slave.


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