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Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in

 
Anonymous Coward
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If someone breaks into your house, you need to comply with them, show them where all the expensive jewelry and cash is. Give it to them.

Offer them dinner.

Tell them when you get paid next so they can do it again.

DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.

If your house is getting robbed, you deserve it and need to let it happen.

AGAIN, DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.
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you're an idiot
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11/28/2012 11:27 AM
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Another thing, when Secret Service members retire they are referred to as State Dept. security officers. This guy was likely former Secret Service. You just don't fuck with those bastards.
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Unless you're a Columbian hooker.

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11/28/2012 11:31 AM
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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
Does the media ever use the term

'COLD BLOOD'


when reporting about home invasions where the homeowner is killed?!?!?!?!
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11/28/2012 11:33 AM
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What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker!
 Quoting: strikeforce1


IF anyone tries to break into my house, THEN they will be lucky if all i do to them is blow their fucking head off.


**HEY KIDS**** don't do what they did...

DON'T STEAL

DON'T BE A SCUMBAG

AND YOU WON'T HAVE YOUR HEAD BLOWN OFF...

PRETTY.FUCKING.SIMPLE.
Disinformation Tards: F-OFF!
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11/28/2012 11:36 AM
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They were criminals... Don't break into other people's houses! Sorry but I don't feel bad for anybody killed when they break into another persons home.
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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11/28/2012 11:37 AM
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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
Does the media ever use the term

'COLD BLOOD'


when reporting about home invasions where the homeowner is killed?!?!?!?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787


No. because the liberal media still looks at the intruders as the victim.
"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it." -Morpheus
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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker!
 Quoting: strikeforce1


IF anyone tries to break into my house, THEN they will be lucky if all i do to them is blow their fucking head off.


**HEY KIDS**** don't do what they did...

DON'T STEAL

DON'T BE A SCUMBAG

AND YOU WON'T HAVE YOUR HEAD BLOWN OFF...

PRETTY.FUCKING.SIMPLE.
 Quoting: CaseLogic


well, you'll be locked up too. pretty.fucking.simple
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11/28/2012 11:38 AM
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Does the media ever use the term

'COLD BLOOD'


when reporting about home invasions where the homeowner is killed?!?!?!?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787


No. because the liberal media still looks at the intruders as the victim.
 Quoting: Hitokiri


how so? can you give me an example?
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11/28/2012 11:39 AM
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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
?? idk what to think.


given the limited information..guess i have to fall on the side of the property owner.
not guilty.

those kids put themselves into that position, not even saying they were bad kids- they just made a really bad choice.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


limited info? we know the kids were unarmed. we know the kids were shot in the legs and rendered immobile. we know the homeowner then executed these kids unnecessarily. he even admitted taking it too far. what else is there to find out about this case?
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well in that case my verdict stands..not guilty.

people sneaking around in my house will be fired upon until the threat is stopped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


no shit. he's not guilty in your eyes despite what logic, the law, and human compassion says
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lack of logic, disobeying the law & disregarding human compassion was in fact what caused the entire mess.
their choice to violate someone elses property.

the property owner- forced by the kids- to draw & shoot his weapon..
this traumatic experience caused a serious mental shock which led to the owners irrational behavior.
ozymandias

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11/28/2012 11:40 AM
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thumbs down for this mother fucker, hope he is taught the meaning of mercy when they send his sick ass to the big house, finnish shot, what a pc-o-shit. miserable bastard sounds to me like he just had a hankering to kill something.
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11/28/2012 11:45 AM
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No, not justified. His actions quite clearly went way beyond any conceivable measures of self-defense. He should and will go to prison for the rest of his life.
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I agree in this instance.
What he did was absolutely disgusting. They weren't even armed and one was a young girl...ffs....
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limited info? we know the kids were unarmed. we know the kids were shot in the legs and rendered immobile. we know the homeowner then executed these kids unnecessarily. he even admitted taking it too far. what else is there to find out about this case?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070

well in that case my verdict stands..not guilty.

people sneaking around in my house will be fired upon until the threat is stopped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


no shit. he's not guilty in your eyes despite what logic, the law, and human compassion says
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070



lack of logic, disobeying the law & disregarding human compassion was in fact what caused the entire mess.
their choice to violate someone elses property.

the property owner- forced by the kids- to draw & shoot his weapon..
this traumatic experience caused a serious mental shock which led to the owners irrational behavior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


so the unarmed, wounded teenage girl forced him to put a gun to her chin and pull the trigger? is that really what you're saying?
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11/28/2012 11:48 AM
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after researching some of Anonymous Coward User ID: 14207070 posts it appears he is only interested in trolling.
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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
If I am a juror:

As for unpremeditated murder in the 2nd degree of the male = Not Guilty.

As for the same charge with regard to the female = Guilty.

The situation had changed significantly between the two deaths, and the second person (female) was killed execution style, when no further fear for his life could be demonstrated.

He'll go to jail for killing the girl, and the lapse in judgement when he didn't call the cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15091083


I think if someone breaks into your home, your sanctuary, it should be legal to torture, rape, or do anything you damn well please to them...
 Quoting: BRIEF


you're a sick fuck
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Don't steal.
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If I am a juror:

As for unpremeditated murder in the 2nd degree of the male = Not Guilty.

As for the same charge with regard to the female = Guilty.

The situation had changed significantly between the two deaths, and the second person (female) was killed execution style, when no further fear for his life could be demonstrated.

He'll go to jail for killing the girl, and the lapse in judgement when he didn't call the cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15091083


I think if someone breaks into your home, your sanctuary, it should be legal to torture, rape, or do anything you damn well please to them...
 Quoting: BRIEF


you're a sick fuck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Don't steal.
 Quoting: BRIEF


don't murder, torture and rape because you think it's ok
BRIEF
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11/28/2012 11:59 AM

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That's a tuff call. Wounding someone in your house then killing them while there down,guess you have emotions and possessions that control you in those high stress situations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Doug


Like I tell my kids: My home, my rules, don't like it then leave.
With freedom comes responsibility.

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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
If someone breaks into your house, you need to comply with them, show them where all the expensive jewelry and cash is. Give it to them.

Offer them dinner.

Tell them when you get paid next so they can do it again.

DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.

If your house is getting robbed, you deserve it and need to let it happen.

AGAIN, DO NOT DEFEND YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16457740


LOL! Don't forget to suck their dick too!!

Karma is the reason you got robbed!!
With freedom comes responsibility.

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11/28/2012 12:01 PM
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don't break into somebody els's house.
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clappa

It's too bad he had to kill the chick, she was a hottie. He could have made her his slave.


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11/28/2012 12:02 PM
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That's a tuff call. Wounding someone in your house then killing them while there down,guess you have emotions and possessions that control you in those high stress situations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Doug


Like I tell my kids: My home, my rules, don't like it then leave.
 Quoting: BRIEF


so if your kids were trespassing, and the homeowner raped them, you would be ok with that?
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11/28/2012 12:03 PM

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I think if someone breaks into your home, your sanctuary, it should be legal to torture, rape, or do anything you damn well please to them...
 Quoting: BRIEF


you're a sick fuck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Don't steal.
 Quoting: BRIEF


don't murder, torture and rape because you think it's ok
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


If you don't try to steal from me you have nothing to worry about.
With freedom comes responsibility.

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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
That's a tuff call. Wounding someone in your house then killing them while there down,guess you have emotions and possessions that control you in those high stress situations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Doug


Like I tell my kids: My home, my rules, don't like it then leave.
 Quoting: BRIEF


so if your kids were trespassing, and the homeowner raped them, you would be ok with that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Taught my kids better than that...didn't really need to teach them that specifically because they aren't stupid like you are...
With freedom comes responsibility.

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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
Yeah that's pretty fucked up. Why the fuck didn't she run away? If you break into someones house, you take the risk of being shot, but this goes beyond self defense. The guy is insane.
 Quoting: Munsoned


Yep, you mess with the bulls and you get the horns. It's a good thing he used a .22 for the kill shots. I don't want to see those get banned.

More people die from .22 cal than any other round. Mainly because it's supersonic and penetrates further than larger calibers.
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11/28/2012 12:10 PM
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Re: Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in
If I am a juror:

As for unpremeditated murder in the 2nd degree of the male = Not Guilty.

As for the same charge with regard to the female = Guilty.

The situation had changed significantly between the two deaths, and the second person (female) was killed execution style, when no further fear for his life could be demonstrated.

He'll go to jail for killing the girl, and the lapse in judgement when he didn't call the cops.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15091083


He will get hero status in the prison system and will be treated like a king. They love killers and he'll fit right in.

I was in prison for 5 years and we all used to watch COPS on Saturday night to laugh at all the criminals. Go figure.
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11/28/2012 12:18 PM
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That's a tuff call. Wounding someone in your house then killing them while there down,guess you have emotions and possessions that control you in those high stress situations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Doug


Like I tell my kids: My home, my rules, don't like it then leave.
 Quoting: BRIEF


so if your kids were trespassing, and the homeowner raped them, you would be ok with that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


I would be ok with that...as long as he kept a video diary.
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11/28/2012 12:27 PM
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Trained killer kills.
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That's a tuff call. Wounding someone in your house then killing them while there down,guess you have emotions and possessions that control you in those high stress situations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Doug


Like I tell my kids: My home, my rules, don't like it then leave.
 Quoting: BRIEF


so if your kids were trespassing, and the homeowner raped them, you would be ok with that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14207070


Taught my kids better than that...didn't really need to teach them that specifically because they aren't stupid like you are...
 Quoting: BRIEF


it's called a hypothetical smart guy. i'm not surprised you can't grasp the concept. anyone that condones torture and rape should be eliminated from the gene pool
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rockon
BHO is a SAUDI Agent.
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11/28/2012 12:54 PM
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why the Fck did the girl not Ran away after hear the first gun shoot???

something just dont fit in the story..
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why the Fck did the girl not Ran away after hear the first gun shoot???

something just dont fit in the story..
 Quoting: red/mx


good question
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why the Fck did the girl not Ran away after hear the first gun shoot???

something just dont fit in the story..
 Quoting: red/mx


Sounds like she might not have been in the house yet when her cousin got shot. The shooter said he heard glass break after the first was down.
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