Justified or not? Homeowner shoots in cold blood, kills two teens in home break-in | |
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strikeforce1 (OP) User ID: 1362297 Canada 11/28/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker! •*¨¨*•-:¦ Mahamedus erat porcus agricola ¦:-•*¨¨*• |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 11/28/2012 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker! Quoting: strikeforce1 If you only injure them they will sue and take your house...but he screwed up in many ways...he should have killed them and called the cops and claimed self defense... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Munsoned User ID: 27143553 United States 11/28/2012 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah that's pretty fucked up. Why the fuck didn't she run away? If you break into someones house, you take the risk of being shot, but this goes beyond self defense. The guy is insane. Freedom requires breathing room, the Constitution presupposes that there will be some crazies among us so that the rest of us can enjoy freedom. - Judge Andrew Napolitano A huge shit cloud is coming! |
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Apocalypse Troll Trollicus Apocalyptus User ID: 4316 United States 11/28/2012 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I see two figures in my house that don't belong there, I have every right to assume they are there to kill me and therefore I will shoot them in the face. "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." [link to www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us] |
Simple_Man User ID: 15977994 United States 11/28/2012 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe in a home owners right to defend himself , family and his property by lethal force but.... This guy went way to far ..... He's going to have to pay for his actions....no excuses for what He did Last Edited by Simple_Man on 11/28/2012 09:56 AM |
bridak User ID: 12435395 Canada 11/28/2012 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you break in someones house you must assume that you will get shot and might die because people will be afraid and will probably over react. When the burglars are down and you realize what is going on, if you decide to shoot them in the head at repetition then you must go to jail because you're a little wacko :) He is going to jail for sure and for a very long time i would say. “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20889314 Canada 11/28/2012 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He didn't call the cops right away so he could get rid of his grow op, the reason the teenagers broke in in the first place! My theory anyway! And yes, it was very excessive what he did. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1305582 Yes, there is more to this than the tidbits in the MSM news release. You can bank on it. However, any way you slice it, he went beyond the 'reasonable man' test. |
ZeuZ User ID: 3389928 United States 11/28/2012 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOT YOUR FUCKING PROPERTY! This story is great if the gun powder residue, blood splatter, and the bullet holes all line up with his story. Those .223 rounds are gonna go through a few walls. I'm all for .22lr as a self defense round, but if you are going to use it, get the right ammo. If he would of had a 10/22 with a BX-25 and some CCI Stinger rounds, do you think he would be in jail? Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow, you may die. |
Big Richard User ID: 811101 United States 11/28/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solution....don't enter someone's house without an invitation and you won't be shot or killed. Break into my house and you will be killed, not wounded. That way the criminal will never do it again and taxpayers will save a fortune in prosecution and imprisonment costs. |
ZeuZ User ID: 3389928 United States 11/28/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOT YOUR FUCKING PROPERTY! Quoting: ZeuZ This story is great if the gun powder residue, blood splatter, and the bullet holes all line up with his story. Those .223 rounds are gonna go through a few walls. I'm all for .22lr as a self defense round, but if you are going to use it, get the right ammo and be accurate. If he would of had a 10/22 with a BX-25 and some CCI Stinger rounds, do you think he would be in jail? Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow, you may die. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18308887 United Kingdom 11/28/2012 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker! Quoting: strikeforce1 If you only injure them they will sue and take your house...but he screwed up in many ways...he should have killed them and called the cops and claimed self defense... +1 |
FFS User ID: 2043243 United Kingdom 11/28/2012 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd do the same over here, although i'd have to use a crossbow as our last bunch of useless law makers decided we weren't allowed to defend our homes, against scum who try and take what they cant be arsed to earn. Funny as how does the saying go...An Englishmans home is his castle. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213727 United States 11/28/2012 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What say you? Justified self-defense, or cold blooded murder? I don't consider a "nice, clean finishing shot" to an incapacitated teenage girl's head to be "self defense". This fucker I think should get what's coming to him with the murder 2 charge. Sure the teens shouldn't have broken into the guy's house but one shot, fall down the stairs, and call the fucking cops, don't blow their fucking heads off motherfucker! Quoting: strikeforce1 I'm with you on that^^^...The dumbass also waited till Sat. to report it.... he gets whats coming to him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1516308 Netherlands 11/28/2012 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sickening. Gun down a teenage girl and then put the gun underneath her chin and kill her? Dirty scumbag needs to rot away. I am all for self defence but self defence is NOT a licence to kill. This guy sounds like a psycho who thought he had an opportunity to clench his sadistic desire to kill people. No sane person wants to kill a person, ever. You might fire at them out of fear but it takes a special kind of mentally disabled person to then walk up to a gunned down kid and shoot him in the face. This was not the Mexican drug cartel we are talking about. Just 2 kids doing some stupid shit. Yeah if you break into someone's house you take the risk of being shot but again, self defence is NOT a licence to kill. |
Ralph--a house dog User ID: 25802009 United States 11/28/2012 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah that's pretty fucked up. Why the fuck didn't she run away? If you break into someones house, you take the risk of being shot, but this goes beyond self defense. The guy is insane. Quoting: Munsoned I think a Post Traumatic Stress defense is likely by his attorney. Read in one article that he had been burglarized, robbed or whatever 8 times. Could have been many odd thoughts going through his head during the whole incident. "Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas HIS NAME IS SETH RICH [link to biblicalselfdefense.com] [link to forum.1111ers.blog] Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU. "Who decides?" ---Robert A. Heinlein -'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin [link to www.westcoasttruth.com] The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose. You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do. |