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why is the crucified christ have a cut over his liver

 
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The Image of The Divine Mercy
In 1931, our Lord appeared to St. Faustina in a vision. She saw Jesus clothed in a white garment with His right hand raised in blessing. His left hand was touching His garment in the area of the Heart, from where two large rays came forth, one red and the other pale. She gazed intently at the Lord in silence, her soul filled with awe, but also with great joy. Jesus said to her:

Paint an image according to the pattern you see, with the signature: Jesus, I trust in You. I promise that the soul that will venerate this image will not perish. I also promise victory over [its] enemies already here on earth, especially at the hour of death. I Myself will defend it as My own glory (Diary, 47, 48). I am offering people a vessel with which they are to keep coming for graces to the fountain of mercy. That vessel is this image with the signature: Jesus, I trust in You (327). I desire that this image be venerated, first in your chapel, and [then] throughout the world (47).

At the request of her spiritual director, St. Faustina asked the Lord about the meaning of the rays in the image. She heard these words in reply:

The two rays denote Blood and Water. The pale ray stands for the Water which makes souls righteous. The red ray stands for the Blood which is the life of souls. These two rays issued forth from the depths of My tender mercy when My agonized Heart was opened by a lance on the Cross. Happy is the one who will dwell in their shelter, for the just hand of God shall not lay hold of him (299). By means of this image I shall grant many graces to souls. It is to be a reminder of the demands of My mercy, because even the strongest faith is of no avail without works (742).
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O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You. (187)

You Yourself, Jesus, surely out of love for us, underwent such a terrible Passion. Your Father's justice would have been propitiated with a single sigh from You, and all Your self abasement is solely the work of Your mercy and Your inconceivable love ...At the end of Your death on the Cross, You bestowed upon us eternal life; allowing Your most holy side to be opened, You opened an inexhaustible spring of mercy for us, giving us Your dearest possession, the Blood and Water from Your Heart. Such is the omnipotence of Your mercy. From it all grace flows to us. (1747)

You expired, Jesus, but the source of life gushed forth for souls and the ocean of mercy opened up for the whole world. O Fount of Life, unfathomable Divine Mercy, envelop the whole world and empty Yourself out Upon us. (1319)

See the Diary of Saint Faustina Kowalska:
[link to divinemercy.heavenboundministry.com]
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whats the interpretation of water?
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there are many references to the living water. here's one:

John Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman

4 Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John— 2 although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. 3 So he left Judea and went back once more to Galilee.

4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.

7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)

9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[a])

10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”

13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”

16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

17 “I have no husband,” she replied.

Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
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The Image of The Divine Mercy
In 1931, our Lord appeared to St. Faustina in a vision. She saw Jesus clothed in a white garment with His right hand raised in blessing. His left hand was touching His garment in the area of the Heart, from where two large rays came forth, one red and the other pale. She gazed intently at the Lord in silence, her soul filled with awe, but also with great joy. Jesus said to her:

Paint an image according to the pattern you see, with the signature: Jesus, I trust in You. I promise that the soul that will venerate this image will not perish. I also promise victory over [its] enemies already here on earth, especially at the hour of death. I Myself will defend it as My own glory (Diary, 47, 48). I am offering people a vessel with which they are to keep coming for graces to the fountain of mercy. That vessel is this image with the signature: Jesus, I trust in You (327). I desire that this image be venerated, first in your chapel, and [then] throughout the world (47).

At the request of her spiritual director, St. Faustina asked the Lord about the meaning of the rays in the image. She heard these words in reply:

The two rays denote Blood and Water. The pale ray stands for the Water which makes souls righteous. The red ray stands for the Blood which is the life of souls. These two rays issued forth from the depths of My tender mercy when My agonized Heart was opened by a lance on the Cross. Happy is the one who will dwell in their shelter, for the just hand of God shall not lay hold of him (299). By means of this image I shall grant many graces to souls. It is to be a reminder of the demands of My mercy, because even the strongest faith is of no avail without works (742).
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happy is the one who will dwell in their shelter, for the just of god will not lay hold of him hand??
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O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You. (187)

You Yourself, Jesus, surely out of love for us, underwent such a terrible Passion. Your Father's justice would have been propitiated with a single sigh from You, and all Your self abasement is solely the work of Your mercy and Your inconceivable love ...At the end of Your death on the Cross, You bestowed upon us eternal life; allowing Your most holy side to be opened, You opened an inexhaustible spring of mercy for us, giving us Your dearest possession, the Blood and Water from Your Heart. Such is the omnipotence of Your mercy. From it all grace flows to us. (1747)

You expired, Jesus, but the source of life gushed forth for souls and the ocean of mercy opened up for the whole world. O Fount of Life, unfathomable Divine Mercy, envelop the whole world and empty Yourself out Upon us. (1319)

See the Diary of Saint Faustina Kowalska:
[link to divinemercy.heavenboundministry.com]
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whats the interpretation of water?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


there are many references to the living water. here's one:

John Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman

4 Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John— 2 although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. 3 So he left Judea and went back once more to Galilee.

4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.

7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)

9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[a])

10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”

13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”

16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

17 “I have no husband,” she replied.

Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
 Quoting: Salt

i know its a parable and metaphor...........but i feel theres a code in this
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does this confirm that jesus was a sacrafice by the jewish people?
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Yeshua sacrificed himself and the word of God shows the comparison between him and the passover lamb since he became the spotless lamb of God.
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We also see the comparison with the ram caught in the bush and the crown of thorns.

And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. Genesis 22:13

And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe, John 19:2
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interesting correlation
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Yep.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39

Scriptures refers to the Old Testament because that is all there was when Yeshua was here.
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
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Yeshua sacrificed himself and the word of God shows the comparison between him and the passover lamb since he became the spotless lamb of God.
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We also see the comparison with the ram caught in the bush and the crown of thorns.

And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. Genesis 22:13

And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe, John 19:2
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


interesting correlation
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Yep.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39

Scriptures refers to the Old Testament because that is all there was when Yeshua was here.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate

yea i read the old testament when i was a kid.......but i only took it at a literal level at the time
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We also see the comparison with the ram caught in the bush and the crown of thorns.

And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. Genesis 22:13

And the soldiers platted a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and they put on him a purple robe, John 19:2
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


interesting correlation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125



Yep.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39

Scriptures refers to the Old Testament because that is all there was when Yeshua was here.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate

yea i read the old testament when i was a kid.......but i only took it at a literal level at the time
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Yeah the old and the new testament are fully entwined.
The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready?

Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified.

Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches.

Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12

And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations)

Saul/Paul, the false Apostle.
[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]
[link to www.jesuswordsonly.com]

The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]
[link to www.giveshare.org]

The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found!
[link to stevenmcollins.com]

Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com]
[link to www.biblegateway.com] 777
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O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You. (187)

You Yourself, Jesus, surely out of love for us, underwent such a terrible Passion. Your Father's justice would have been propitiated with a single sigh from You, and all Your self abasement is solely the work of Your mercy and Your inconceivable love ...At the end of Your death on the Cross, You bestowed upon us eternal life; allowing Your most holy side to be opened, You opened an inexhaustible spring of mercy for us, giving us Your dearest possession, the Blood and Water from Your Heart. Such is the omnipotence of Your mercy. From it all grace flows to us. (1747)

You expired, Jesus, but the source of life gushed forth for souls and the ocean of mercy opened up for the whole world. O Fount of Life, unfathomable Divine Mercy, envelop the whole world and empty Yourself out Upon us. (1319)

See the Diary of Saint Faustina Kowalska:
[link to divinemercy.heavenboundministry.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25306699


whats the interpretation of water?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


there are many references to the living water. here's one:

John Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman

4 Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John— 2 although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. 3 So he left Judea and went back once more to Galilee.

4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.

7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)

9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[a])

10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”

13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”

16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

17 “I have no husband,” she replied.

Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
 Quoting: Salt

i know its a parable and metaphor...........but i feel theres a code in this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


parable, sort of.
Jesus could not reveal openly who He was for a variety of reasons.
timing issues, among other things.
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whats the interpretation of water?
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there are many references to the living water. here's one:

John Jesus Talks With a Samaritan Woman

4 Now Jesus learned that the Pharisees had heard that he was gaining and baptizing more disciples than John— 2 although in fact it was not Jesus who baptized, but his disciples. 3 So he left Judea and went back once more to Galilee.

4 Now he had to go through Samaria. 5 So he came to a town in Samaria called Sychar, near the plot of ground Jacob had given to his son Joseph. 6 Jacob’s well was there, and Jesus, tired as he was from the journey, sat down by the well. It was about noon.

7 When a Samaritan woman came to draw water, Jesus said to her, “Will you give me a drink?” 8 (His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.)

9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?” (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.[a])

10 Jesus answered her, “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.”

11 “Sir,” the woman said, “you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? 12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his livestock?”

13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, 14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

15 The woman said to him, “Sir, give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and have to keep coming here to draw water.”

16 He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.”

17 “I have no husband,” she replied.

Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”

19 “Sir,” the woman said, “I can see that you are a prophet. 20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”
 Quoting: Salt

i know its a parable and metaphor...........but i feel theres a code in this
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parable, sort of.
Jesus could not reveal openly who He was for a variety of reasons.
timing issues, among other things.
 Quoting: Salt


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dramatic effect.

it is widely said the cut is supposed to represent a vagina
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dramatic effect.

it is widely said the cut is supposed to represent a vagina
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rebirth?
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You now know he was stabbed in the side by a Roman soldier to make sure he was dead so now you can go out and look for the Spear Of Destiny,the spear used to stab Jesus.
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A very interesting book on that subject:

[link to www.amazon.com]

First Constatine, then Hitler had quite an obsession for that spear

I believe the US is now in possession of the thing

This discovery channel show answers some of your questions and a bit more:



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. When he did, water flowed from the wound.
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cruise
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Ok the poster obviously wrote water instead of using the correct medical term. No need to laugh.
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LIVER = LIFE = LIFE = JESUS LOVE
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SEE? ITS MATH.

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They used to stab the crucified in that area commonly to make sure thy were really dead before taking them down off the cross.

So, if he is depicted on the cross, it seems like he would be depicted as most people on the cross would have appeared..with a slice.
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A roman soldier stabbed JESUS in the THIGH< not the chest, so he would not be killed by the stab. He did NOT die on the cross, he was only in a coma and he lived and the bible says so, but people misinterpret it as a resurrection. It was not, there was no resurrection, its a church LIE.

He told his people he would come out on the 3rd day and only be in a coma. His last supper is also fraudulently reported. YOu can learn the truth here:

[link to webzoom.freewebs.com]
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

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They used to stab the crucified in that area commonly to make sure thy were really dead before taking them down off the cross.

So, if he is depicted on the cross, it seems like he would be depicted as most people on the cross would have appeared..with a slice.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


A roman soldier stabbed JESUS in the THIGH< not the chest, so he would not be killed by the stab. He did NOT die on the cross, he was only in a coma and he lived and the bible says so, but people misinterpret it as a resurrection. It was not, there was no resurrection, its a church LIE.

He told his people he would come out on the 3rd day and only be in a coma. His last supper is also fraudulently reported. YOu can learn the truth here:

[link to webzoom.freewebs.com]
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if you look at paintings of the crucifixion it usually shows a wound over the liver
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im baffled
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He had liver replacement surgery. All that wine at the wedding feast of Cana did it. Gave him cirosis of the liver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


what about the possibility that jesus took a poisonous drug to make it appear as though he had died..........this centurion was aware and pierced the liver to release the poison from the body
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125

oh lord

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Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

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St.Francis Of Assisi..

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im baffled
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He had liver replacement surgery. All that wine at the wedding feast of Cana did it. Gave him cirosis of the liver
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what about the possibility that jesus took a poisonous drug to make it appear as though he had died..........this centurion was aware and pierced the liver to release the poison from the body
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


:facepalm:
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pretty judgemental ............have a bee in your bonnet honey pot??
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Don't mean to sound gross, but did drink the blood of christ?


Some believed that by drinking the blood of a victim the conqueror absorbed the additional strength of the conquered.


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He had liver replacement surgery. All that wine at the wedding feast of Cana did it. Gave him cirosis of the liver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


what about the possibility that jesus took a poisonous drug to make it appear as though he had died..........this centurion was aware and pierced the liver to release the poison from the body
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


facepalm
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pretty judgemental ............have a bee in your bonnet honey pot??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


nope but Ive got ants in my pants
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Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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I wanted the other face palm emoticon btw..dont like the above one :(
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

[link to www.google.ca]

Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


oh and PLEASE STOP SENDING ME SPAM FROM AFRICA..thank you :)
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im baffled
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He had liver replacement surgery. All that wine at the wedding feast of Cana did it. Gave him cirosis of the liver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


what about the possibility that jesus took a poisonous drug to make it appear as though he had died..........this centurion was aware and pierced the liver to release the poison from the body
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125

oh lord
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ohlord yes and please go read my post above and also you can read an on going collection of my posts which are the WHAT IS here:

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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They used to stab the crucified in that area commonly to make sure thy were really dead before taking them down off the cross.

So, if he is depicted on the cross, it seems like he would be depicted as most people on the cross would have appeared..with a slice.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


A roman soldier stabbed JESUS in the THIGH< not the chest, so he would not be killed by the stab. He did NOT die on the cross, he was only in a coma and he lived and the bible says so, but people misinterpret it as a resurrection. It was not, there was no resurrection, its a church LIE.

He told his people he would come out on the 3rd day and only be in a coma. His last supper is also fraudulently reported. YOu can learn the truth here:

[link to webzoom.freewebs.com]
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


if you look at paintings of the crucifixion it usually shows a wound over the liver
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the painting are NOT of those times,, the paintings, are based only on statements in the bible which are not fully truth. I guess I did not add, that there was another who was also crucified, from the same planet as Esu (Jesus), and that person was confused as being Jesus. That person was pierced according to custom, in the chest. I posted a link to the thread with that detail in it.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/28/2012 11:35 AM
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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Don't mean to sound gross, but did drink the blood of christ?


Some believed that by drinking the blood of a victim the conqueror absorbed the additional strength of the conquered.


[link to www.answers.com]
 Quoting: pool


under the oxford companion to the body in the article it says that the body is composed of foue elements ........blood,phlegm,yellow bile and black bile.hmmm
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They used to stab the crucified in that area commonly to make sure thy were really dead before taking them down off the cross.

So, if he is depicted on the cross, it seems like he would be depicted as most people on the cross would have appeared..with a slice.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


A roman soldier stabbed JESUS in the THIGH< not the chest, so he would not be killed by the stab. He did NOT die on the cross, he was only in a coma and he lived and the bible says so, but people misinterpret it as a resurrection. It was not, there was no resurrection, its a church LIE.

He told his people he would come out on the 3rd day and only be in a coma. His last supper is also fraudulently reported. YOu can learn the truth here:

[link to webzoom.freewebs.com]
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


if you look at paintings of the crucifixion it usually shows a wound over the liver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


the painting are NOT of those times,, the paintings, are based only on statements in the bible which are not fully truth. I guess I did not add, that there was another who was also crucified, from the same planet as Esu (Jesus), and that person was confused as being Jesus. That person was pierced according to custom, in the chest. I posted a link to the thread with that detail in it.
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all right ill checkemout
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Don't mean to sound gross, but did drink the blood of christ?


Some believed that by drinking the blood of a victim the conqueror absorbed the additional strength of the conquered.


[link to www.answers.com]
 Quoting: pool


under the oxford companion to the body in the article it says that the body is composed of foue elements ........blood,phlegm,yellow bile and black bile.hmmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


There's more stuff there too.

Pagan charges concerning the eucharist embarrassed the early Christians, who found themselves accused of consuming human flesh and blood. By a grim irony, such baseless accusations were later directed against the Jews of medieval Europe. Malicious preachers, ignorant rabble-rousers, and vindictive Jewish apostates exploited popular fear and superstition, alleging that the blood of a Christian child was an essential ingredient in certain Jewish rites. Furthermore, the periodic coincidence of Easter with Passover led to "ritual murder" charges that pursued Jews down the ages. It was thus alleged that Christian blood was used in the preparation of unleavened bread and wine for the Passover Seder. Despite the efforts made by popes, emperors, and enlightened scholars to refute these lies, agitators down to the 20th century utilized the disappearance or unsolved murder of a Christian child for the propagation of miracle tales, the torture, execution, or wholesale massacre of innocent Jews, and the confiscation of their property.

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Don't mean to sound gross, but did drink the blood of christ?


Some believed that by drinking the blood of a victim the conqueror absorbed the additional strength of the conquered.


[link to www.answers.com]
 Quoting: pool


under the oxford companion to the body in the article it says that the body is composed of foue elements ........blood,phlegm,yellow bile and black bile.hmmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


There's more stuff there too.

Pagan charges concerning the eucharist embarrassed the early Christians, who found themselves accused of consuming human flesh and blood. By a grim irony, such baseless accusations were later directed against the Jews of medieval Europe. Malicious preachers, ignorant rabble-rousers, and vindictive Jewish apostates exploited popular fear and superstition, alleging that the blood of a Christian child was an essential ingredient in certain Jewish rites. Furthermore, the periodic coincidence of Easter with Passover led to "ritual murder" charges that pursued Jews down the ages. It was thus alleged that Christian blood was used in the preparation of unleavened bread and wine for the Passover Seder. Despite the efforts made by popes, emperors, and enlightened scholars to refute these lies, agitators down to the 20th century utilized the disappearance or unsolved murder of a Christian child for the propagation of miracle tales, the torture, execution, or wholesale massacre of innocent Jews, and the confiscation of their property.

Read more: [link to www.answers.com]
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yeah ive read this before.............curious
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im baffled
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He had liver replacement surgery. All that wine at the wedding feast of Cana did it. Gave him cirosis of the liver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


what about the possibility that jesus took a poisonous drug to make it appear as though he had died..........this centurion was aware and pierced the liver to release the poison from the body
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


I'm not wiht you, but you have a genuine doubt.
It could be also not a poison but a drug similar to morphine.
Then your theory have more sense.
The centurion discovered it and want to drain it from the liver. Just saying.
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im baffled
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He had liver replacement surgery. All that wine at the wedding feast of Cana did it. Gave him cirosis of the liver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


what about the possibility that jesus took a poisonous drug to make it appear as though he had died..........this centurion was aware and pierced the liver to release the poison from the body
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


I'm not wiht you, but you have a genuine doubt.
It could be also not a poison but a drug similar to morphine.
Then your theory have more sense.
The centurion discovered it and want to drain it from the liver. Just saying.
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i think it would be tetrodotoxin derived from the pufferfish.........you should look it uphf
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He had liver replacement surgery. All that wine at the wedding feast of Cana did it. Gave him cirosis of the liver
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16674316


what about the possibility that jesus took a poisonous drug to make it appear as though he had died..........this centurion was aware and pierced the liver to release the poison from the body
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23952125


I'm not wiht you, but you have a genuine doubt.
It could be also not a poison but a drug similar to morphine.
Then your theory have more sense.
The centurion discovered it and want to drain it from the liver. Just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18814915


i think it would be tetrodotoxin derived from the pufferfish.........you should look it uphf
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And people that get offended by this theory are not christian at all but fanatics. I'm a true christian and I can see your point. I'm not offended because I'm not a fucking Muslim!

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