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BREAKING!! Obama to bypass congress to ban semiautomatic firearms!!

 
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This is getting a little bit old.
I mean everyday you hear some bs article about Obama banning all weapons.

Why are people so afraid that Obama will take their guns? Is it really the black thing? "oh noes, a black person has power over me, he will surely ban guns so the blacks can finally take revenge on us for what we did to them for so many years".
 Quoting: Phill

Nothing to do with the color of his skin, I understand the libtards want you to buy into that, and you have. But really his politics are what are in question.
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You are stating that White Americans are racist against a Black president. Singling out a race is RACIST at the very core of its definition!!!
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It would be racist if I said white Americans are racist BECAUSE they are white. It has to be based on race. Singling out a race is NOT racist. So by your logic a poll concluding that Mexicans tend to vote for Obama is racist.
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the specs on interceptor armor are available online, if youre interested in learning a thing or two.
I'm unaware of any current military armor/flack vests being defeated by non firearm projectiles, so I'll turn it around and request YOU TELL ME HOW YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CLAIM IS EVEN TRUE, sparkles.
You do what every inexperience wannabe does, which is expect other to teach them or imagine that their limited, unrealistic scenario is all that there is.
Not gonna get that to work here.
I'll stick with the published stats compared to your allegations, anyday
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


Look, fucknut, I never proposed any scenario. Period. YOU said straight out that "neither a bow OR an arrow will penetrate milspec issue armor". I - quite nicely I believe - asked for a citation as many vests designed to stop bullets do NOT stop arrows or other piercing weapons. I even asked - again nicely - if you maybe meant they would stop an arrow if they had the trauma plates installed. Then you tried to be snarky prick.

I went to look up specs for interceptor armor, as apparently we're only talking about that specific armor here. I did not find anything indicating it would stop piercing weapons. I checked and did not find anything contradicting my statement, and you can't/won't provide any evidence otherwise, so I'll stick with my assertion that you are wrong about arrows not being able to penetrate it.

skull_fing
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hahaha. If you had some, as I do, and had some experience with it, you'd understand, but since you dont, it doesnt matter.
Believe what you want, the concern over penetrance of milspec vests by edged or icepick items is something left over from the early days of civilian ballistic protection, something you wont have to worry about when the boyz come to visit.
You seem to have forgotten the point, which is no personal weapon in civilian hands, save for a 50 bmg or and 88 magnum is going to concern any officially designated raiding parties or for that matter, slow them down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have the best body armor made and if I get hit with a FMJ 375 ruger I'm toast dont kid yourself about body armor protection. The rounds most prepper shoot from thier high power deer rifles are home grown nasty boys. 20 years in CJSOTF and I assure you even the mil spec won't stand up to the FAL FMJ it just won't happen. And even if you can manage to stop penetration of multiple FMJ hits I assure you that the receiver will not be on his feet anytime soon. I took a single 7.59 to the chicken plate and it was like getting kicked by a damm mule. Don't let Hollywood fool you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


there is no bullet 'proof', there is bullet 'resistant', and in soft armor that pertains to standard pistol and shotgun munitions. Rifle munitions require the proper hard plates, and that is that.
I'm not kidding anyone, I'm trying to stick to reality, and reality is that antique weapons are not worthy or reliable adversaries or defences against a modern military force.
Anything else is not the topic, no matter how hard effort is made by others to massage the topic in their favor.
The fantasy that a civilian resistance stands any chance against an official opposing force with no functional restrictions to amount of force used is just that, a fantasy.
If it has to get to that point, the 'people' have already lost.
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Look, fucknut, I never proposed any scenario. Period. YOU said straight out that "neither a bow OR an arrow will penetrate milspec issue armor". I - quite nicely I believe - asked for a citation as many vests designed to stop bullets do NOT stop arrows or other piercing weapons. I even asked - again nicely - if you maybe meant they would stop an arrow if they had the trauma plates installed. Then you tried to be snarky prick.

I went to look up specs for interceptor armor, as apparently we're only talking about that specific armor here. I did not find anything indicating it would stop piercing weapons. I checked and did not find anything contradicting my statement, and you can't/won't provide any evidence otherwise, so I'll stick with my assertion that you are wrong about arrows not being able to penetrate it.

skull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055574


hahaha. If you had some, as I do, and had some experience with it, you'd understand, but since you dont, it doesnt matter.
Believe what you want, the concern over penetrance of milspec vests by edged or icepick items is something left over from the early days of civilian ballistic protection, something you wont have to worry about when the boyz come to visit.
You seem to have forgotten the point, which is no personal weapon in civilian hands, save for a 50 bmg or and 88 magnum is going to concern any officially designated raiding parties or for that matter, slow them down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have the best body armor made and if I get hit with a FMJ 375 ruger I'm toast dont kid yourself about body armor protection. The rounds most prepper shoot from thier high power deer rifles are home grown nasty boys. 20 years in CJSOTF and I assure you even the mil spec won't stand up to the FAL FMJ it just won't happen. And even if you can manage to stop penetration of multiple FMJ hits I assure you that the receiver will not be on his feet anytime soon. I took a single 7.59 to the chicken plate and it was like getting kicked by a damm mule. Don't let Hollywood fool you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


there is no bullet 'proof', there is bullet 'resistant', and in soft armor that pertains to standard pistol and shotgun munitions. Rifle munitions require the proper hard plates, and that is that.
I'm not kidding anyone, I'm trying to stick to reality, and reality is that antique weapons are not worthy or reliable adversaries or defences against a modern military force.
Anything else is not the topic, no matter how hard effort is made by others to massage the topic in their favor.
The fantasy that a civilian resistance stands any chance against an official opposing force with no functional restrictions to amount of force used is just that, a fantasy.
If it has to get to that point, the 'people' have already lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have seen the warfighter simulations for a civil uprising in the US, these have been run at the Command General Staff College at Kansas and it is and I quote "An impossible battle to win, much less a war" -General Tommy Franks
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You are stating that White Americans are racist against a Black president. Singling out a race is RACIST at the very core of its definition!!!
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It would be racist if I said white Americans are racist BECAUSE they are white. It has to be based on race. Singling out a race is NOT racist. So by your logic a poll concluding that Mexicans tend to vote for Obama is racist.
 Quoting: Phill


You are clearly stating about a white Americans character. And the character you portray is that whites are racist. By your logic I can say that Obama is just screwing whites because he is racist... That wouldn't be offensive to an African American?!

Mexicans voting for Obama does not say anything negative towards any race. You make ZERO sense!!!
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This is getting a little bit old.
I mean everyday you hear some bs article about Obama banning all weapons.

Why are people so afraid that Obama will take their guns? Is it really the black thing? "oh noes, a black person has power over me, he will surely ban guns so the blacks can finally take revenge on us for what we did to them for so many years".
 Quoting: Phill

Notice how this person goes right back to race? Immediately trying to trigger "white guilt" reaction? Little does he know it may work on the average joe in day to day life...not here though don't know why people constantly try and peddle that bullshit here it never works.
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No guilt here.
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Why are people so afraid that Obama will take their guns? Is it really the black thing?
 Quoting: Phill


You've GOT to be kidding. You think people don't want to lose their defensive capabilities because of a racial thing?

I can't fathom how close-minded you must be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610727


Well when has Obama said he is going to take away all guns? I have never heard him say that hence why I said is it really the black thing a.i. I find this whole reaction so absurd that I can't think of any other reason than racial prejudice.
 Quoting: Phill


People were equally concerned when Clinton was POTUS and in fact he and Janet Reno did ban the import of many guns they deemed "scary looking" or whatever the criteria was. I think it was if something was called an assault weapon, they banned it regardless of what it was.

Now I know Clinton calls himself the first black POTUS but he isn't really. Just white treash from Arkansas.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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hahaha. If you had some, as I do, and had some experience with it, you'd understand, but since you dont, it doesnt matter.
Believe what you want, the concern over penetrance of milspec vests by edged or icepick items is something left over from the early days of civilian ballistic protection, something you wont have to worry about when the boyz come to visit.
You seem to have forgotten the point, which is no personal weapon in civilian hands, save for a 50 bmg or and 88 magnum is going to concern any officially designated raiding parties or for that matter, slow them down.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have the best body armor made and if I get hit with a FMJ 375 ruger I'm toast dont kid yourself about body armor protection. The rounds most prepper shoot from thier high power deer rifles are home grown nasty boys. 20 years in CJSOTF and I assure you even the mil spec won't stand up to the FAL FMJ it just won't happen. And even if you can manage to stop penetration of multiple FMJ hits I assure you that the receiver will not be on his feet anytime soon. I took a single 7.59 to the chicken plate and it was like getting kicked by a damm mule. Don't let Hollywood fool you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


there is no bullet 'proof', there is bullet 'resistant', and in soft armor that pertains to standard pistol and shotgun munitions. Rifle munitions require the proper hard plates, and that is that.
I'm not kidding anyone, I'm trying to stick to reality, and reality is that antique weapons are not worthy or reliable adversaries or defences against a modern military force.
Anything else is not the topic, no matter how hard effort is made by others to massage the topic in their favor.
The fantasy that a civilian resistance stands any chance against an official opposing force with no functional restrictions to amount of force used is just that, a fantasy.
If it has to get to that point, the 'people' have already lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have seen the warfighter simulations for a civil uprising in the US, these have been run at the Command General Staff College at Kansas and it is and I quote "An impossible battle to win, much less a war" -General Tommy Franks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


WEll now, that's interesting.
Did they shut off power and utilities?
Did they shut down transportation grids and delivery of food and supplies?
Did they blast pockets of 'resistance with arty and air assets and run over them with tracks and armor?
Did the shut down netflix and youpron?
I'd think if the gloves were really off, scorched earth and unrestrained violence against civilians would do the trick to a population more suited for dancing with the stars instead of shooting at them.
Personally I think that when any pretext of civility towards so called rebels is removed by the mocha messiah, no quarter will be given until the wite debbil is all but exterminated
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You are stating that White Americans are racist against a Black president. Singling out a race is RACIST at the very core of its definition!!!
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It would be racist if I said white Americans are racist BECAUSE they are white. It has to be based on race. Singling out a race is NOT racist. So by your logic a poll concluding that Mexicans tend to vote for Obama is racist.
 Quoting: Phill


You are clearly stating about a white Americans character. And the character you portray is that whites are racist. By your logic I can say that Obama is just screwing whites because he is racist... That wouldn't be offensive to an African American?!

Mexicans voting for Obama does not say anything negative towards any race. You make ZERO sense!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13310174


Quite frankly, I am a white American, and I find it highly offensive that because I don't agree with what someone is doing, I am singled out as being Racist! That is racist towards me! ... I deal with racism day in and day out. You just talk about it.
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I have the best body armor made and if I get hit with a FMJ 375 ruger I'm toast dont kid yourself about body armor protection. The rounds most prepper shoot from thier high power deer rifles are home grown nasty boys. 20 years in CJSOTF and I assure you even the mil spec won't stand up to the FAL FMJ it just won't happen. And even if you can manage to stop penetration of multiple FMJ hits I assure you that the receiver will not be on his feet anytime soon. I took a single 7.59 to the chicken plate and it was like getting kicked by a damm mule. Don't let Hollywood fool you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


there is no bullet 'proof', there is bullet 'resistant', and in soft armor that pertains to standard pistol and shotgun munitions. Rifle munitions require the proper hard plates, and that is that.
I'm not kidding anyone, I'm trying to stick to reality, and reality is that antique weapons are not worthy or reliable adversaries or defences against a modern military force.
Anything else is not the topic, no matter how hard effort is made by others to massage the topic in their favor.
The fantasy that a civilian resistance stands any chance against an official opposing force with no functional restrictions to amount of force used is just that, a fantasy.
If it has to get to that point, the 'people' have already lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have seen the warfighter simulations for a civil uprising in the US, these have been run at the Command General Staff College at Kansas and it is and I quote "An impossible battle to win, much less a war" -General Tommy Franks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


WEll now, that's interesting.
Did they shut off power and utilities?
Did they shut down transportation grids and delivery of food and supplies?
Did they blast pockets of 'resistance with arty and air assets and run over them with tracks and armor?
Did the shut down netflix and youpron?
I'd think if the gloves were really off, scorched earth and unrestrained violence against civilians would do the trick to a population more suited for dancing with the stars instead of shooting at them.
Personally I think that when any pretext of civility towards so called rebels is removed by the mocha messiah, no quarter will be given until the wite debbil is all but exterminated
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OBTW how many bow'narrow casualties did they determine?
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You are clearly stating about a white Americans character. And the character you portray is that whites are racist. By your logic I can say that Obama is just screwing whites because he is racist... That wouldn't be offensive to an African American?!


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Infact I was talking about the people who go crazy about this fear mongering about Obama taking away guns.

It would have been racist if I had said "all people who go crazy over this are white so therefor they are racist"

If you said Obama is screwing whites because he is racist you are making a claim about an individual. How does that relate to race? And it might be offensive to an African American, being offense towards a person of a particular race is NOT racist.
Racism is when you refuse to hire a person simply because of his race and not based on his qualities or lack thereof.
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bullshit Obama legalized firearms in our friggin National Parks for heavens sake! His grandfather was a gun collector! Who's shoe did ya'll scrape this bullshit from?
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I have the best body armor made and if I get hit with a FMJ 375 ruger I'm toast dont kid yourself about body armor protection. The rounds most prepper shoot from thier high power deer rifles are home grown nasty boys. 20 years in CJSOTF and I assure you even the mil spec won't stand up to the FAL FMJ it just won't happen. And even if you can manage to stop penetration of multiple FMJ hits I assure you that the receiver will not be on his feet anytime soon. I took a single 7.59 to the chicken plate and it was like getting kicked by a damm mule. Don't let Hollywood fool you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


there is no bullet 'proof', there is bullet 'resistant', and in soft armor that pertains to standard pistol and shotgun munitions. Rifle munitions require the proper hard plates, and that is that.
I'm not kidding anyone, I'm trying to stick to reality, and reality is that antique weapons are not worthy or reliable adversaries or defences against a modern military force.
Anything else is not the topic, no matter how hard effort is made by others to massage the topic in their favor.
The fantasy that a civilian resistance stands any chance against an official opposing force with no functional restrictions to amount of force used is just that, a fantasy.
If it has to get to that point, the 'people' have already lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have seen the warfighter simulations for a civil uprising in the US, these have been run at the Command General Staff College at Kansas and it is and I quote "An impossible battle to win, much less a war" -General Tommy Franks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


WEll now, that's interesting.
Did they shut off power and utilities?
Did they shut down transportation grids and delivery of food and supplies?
Did they blast pockets of 'resistance with arty and air assets and run over them with tracks and armor?
Did the shut down netflix and youpron?
I'd think if the gloves were really off, scorched earth and unrestrained violence against civilians would do the trick to a population more suited for dancing with the stars instead of shooting at them.
Personally I think that when any pretext of civility towards so called rebels is removed by the mocha messiah, no quarter will be given until the wite debbil is all but exterminated
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


You have alot to learn about war, it's not like the video game were you just send in the troops and artillery. The number one cause of failure in battle is not loss of life it is loss of morale and drive. These are two things that are impossible to over come because our volunteer military is diverse and from all 50 states with moral ties far deeper than any oath. Then you have the established 45-60% that are in the military for the check. When a warfighter like Tommy Franks says it can't be done.... It can't be done. This is real world not video games or some half ass third world country... You really have no clue.
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I have the best body armor made and if I get hit with a FMJ 375 ruger I'm toast dont kid yourself about body armor protection. The rounds most prepper shoot from thier high power deer rifles are home grown nasty boys. 20 years in CJSOTF and I assure you even the mil spec won't stand up to the FAL FMJ it just won't happen. And even if you can manage to stop penetration of multiple FMJ hits I assure you that the receiver will not be on his feet anytime soon. I took a single 7.59 to the chicken plate and it was like getting kicked by a damm mule. Don't let Hollywood fool you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


there is no bullet 'proof', there is bullet 'resistant', and in soft armor that pertains to standard pistol and shotgun munitions. Rifle munitions require the proper hard plates, and that is that.
I'm not kidding anyone, I'm trying to stick to reality, and reality is that antique weapons are not worthy or reliable adversaries or defences against a modern military force.
Anything else is not the topic, no matter how hard effort is made by others to massage the topic in their favor.
The fantasy that a civilian resistance stands any chance against an official opposing force with no functional restrictions to amount of force used is just that, a fantasy.
If it has to get to that point, the 'people' have already lost.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have seen the warfighter simulations for a civil uprising in the US, these have been run at the Command General Staff College at Kansas and it is and I quote "An impossible battle to win, much less a war" -General Tommy Franks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28614102


WEll now, that's interesting.
Did they shut off power and utilities?
Did they shut down transportation grids and delivery of food and supplies?
Did they blast pockets of 'resistance with arty and air assets and run over them with tracks and armor?
Did the shut down netflix and youpron?
I'd think if the gloves were really off, scorched earth and unrestrained violence against civilians would do the trick to a population more suited for dancing with the stars instead of shooting at them.
Personally I think that when any pretext of civility towards so called rebels is removed by the mocha messiah, no quarter will be given until the wite debbil is all but exterminated
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


You assume in this scenario that the members of the armed forces will be convinced to attack their fellow citizens. I don't share that assumption. In fact, I have just the opposite assumption.

TPTB need people to fly those planes and drive those tanks. They need minions to kill fellow citizens. I don't believe that they will have the needed forces that are willing to turn on their own fellow citizens.

I may be wrong, but I have faith that many if not most military members would join the fight against the government if it got to that point.



Additionally, just so you know, terms like "mocha messiah" and "wite debbil" might be paint you as racist if someone doesn't know you very well.
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Why are people so afraid that Obama will take their guns? Is it really the black thing?
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You've GOT to be kidding. You think people don't want to lose their defensive capabilities because of a racial thing?

I can't fathom how close-minded you must be.
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Well when has Obama said he is going to take away all guns? I have never heard him say that hence why I said is it really the black thing a.i. I find this whole reaction so absurd that I can't think of any other reason than racial prejudice.
 Quoting: Phill


Exactly, you don't understand something, therefore it's racist.

CLASSIC!!
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September 9, 1996
Obama supports Ban on Manufacture, Sale & Possession of Handguns

January 1, 1998
Obama sits on Board of Directors for Anti-Gun Joyce Foundation

July 2, 1998
Endorses a Ban on Sale or Transfer of All Semi-Auto Guns

December 13, 1999
Supports Ban on Resale of Police-Issued Firearms

December 13, 1999
Proposes Banning Gun Stores Within 5 mi. of Schools & Parks - in other words shut down most gun stores

December 13, 1999
Supports 500% Tax Increase on Guns & Ammo

January 1, 2000
Co-sponsors Bill to Limit Firearm Purchases to One Gun a Month

February 20, 2001
Says "No reason why anybody should need an assault weapon."

March 13, 2003
Votes to Ban Hundreds of Common Rifles & Shotguns

March 25, 2004
Votes to Uphold Local Gun Bans

March 25, 2004
Votes to Uphold Prosecution of People Using Guns in Self-Defense

April 27, 2004
Says He Continues to Oppose Concealed Carry

July 30, 2005
Votes to Ban Common Rifle Ammunition

October 17, 2006
Says "I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities."

April 22, 2007
Favors a Ban On Standard-Capacity Ammunition Magazines

February 16, 2008
Says Right To Bear Arms "Subject To Common-Sense Regulation"

April 2, 2008
Says "I am not in favor of concealed weapons"

November 13, 2008
Weeds Out Gun Owners From His White House Staff

April 16, 2009
Says "90% of guns recovered in Mexico come from U.S."

April 16, 2009
Assures He Hasn't "Backed Off At All" on Pledge To Restore Gun Ban

October 14, 2009
Reverses Stance on Treaty to Regulate Arm Trade

July 12, 2010
At the U.N.: Arms Treaty to Include All Conventional Weapons

February 8, 2011
At the U.N.: Agreement Signed with Anti-Gun Group IANSA (International Action Network on Small Arms)

February 28, 2011
At the U.N.: Debate Over Scope of Global Gun Restrictions

March 13, 2011
Calls for Gun Reforms Following Tucson Tragedy

March 15, 2011
Looks For Ways Around Congress on Gun Policy

March 30, 2011
Says We're Working On Gun Control "Under The Radar"

July 7, 2011
Obama Aide Says Gun Legislation in "Near Future"

July 11, 2011
At the U.N.: Final Arms Trade Treaty Talks Under Way

July 11, 2011
Authorizes Administration's First Major Gun Regulation

December 23, 2011
Says He Won't Be Bound by Gun-Control Ban in Omnibus

February 13, 2012
Cuts Funds in Half for Armed Pilot Counter-Terrorism Program

February 17, 2012
Sneaks Anti-Gun Measures Into 2013 Budget Proposal

May 10, 2012
Threatens to Veto DOJ Bill Because It Blocks Gun Control Law

August 6, 2012
Affirms Support For Renewing Semi-automatic Rifle and Magazine Ban

October 16, 2012:
Obama calls for semi-auto firearm ban

November 7th, 2012: Hours after U.S. President Barack Obama was re-elected, the United States backed a U.N. committee's call on Wednesday to renew debate over a draft international treaty to regulate the $70 billion global conventional arms trade.


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This is getting a little bit old.
I mean everyday you hear some bs article about Obama banning all weapons.

Why are people so afraid that Obama will take their guns? Is it really the black thing? "oh noes, a black person has power over me, he will surely ban guns so the blacks can finally take revenge on us for what we did to them for so many years".
 Quoting: Phill


Hey dipshit, it's not about race! You haven't figured that out yet? And who are you to pipe in about our country and our Constitution anyway? You ticked because we've had weapons and you don't??? STFU
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American hunters make up the largest army in the world period.
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Hey dipshit, it's not about race! You haven't figured that out yet? And who are you to pipe in about our country and our Constitution anyway? You ticked because we've had weapons and you don't??? STFU
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If you are so distraught by my comment you are free to not read it.
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You are stating that White Americans are racist against a Black president. Singling out a race is RACIST at the very core of its definition!!!
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It would be racist if I said white Americans are racist BECAUSE they are white. It has to be based on race. Singling out a race is NOT racist. So by your logic a poll concluding that Mexicans tend to vote for Obama is racist.
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YOU are a racists for pointing out color and accusing people of voting against it. There is no proof of that. No one sees color but YOU.

Mexicans tending to vote for Obama is a fact. Blacks voting for Obama is a fact. No one is racists just because they know facts.
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You are stating that White Americans are racist against a Black president. Singling out a race is RACIST at the very core of its definition!!!
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It would be racist if I said white Americans are racist BECAUSE they are white. It has to be based on race. Singling out a race is NOT racist. So by your logic a poll concluding that Mexicans tend to vote for Obama is racist.
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You are clearly stating about a white Americans character. And the character you portray is that whites are racist. By your logic I can say that Obama is just screwing whites because he is racist... That wouldn't be offensive to an African American?!

Mexicans voting for Obama does not say anything negative towards any race. You make ZERO sense!!!
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ZERO sense! Agreed!
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Buy now so u can ignore their crap....
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YOU are a racists for pointing out color and accusing people of voting against it.
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No that is not racist. By your logic you wouldn't be able to accuse anyone of racism since you point out people of a certain colour and accuse other people of being against them simply because of colour.
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Hey dipshit, it's not about race! You haven't figured that out yet? And who are you to pipe in about our country and our Constitution anyway? You ticked because we've had weapons and you don't??? STFU
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If you are so distraught by my comment you are free to not read it.
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Distraught? LOL, that's good. By the comments everyone has made to you so far, we all pretty much agree you are just causing trouble here. Stay in your own country, please. We're fine without you. I don't get 'distraught' unless one of my grandchildren is hurt or a family crisis, certainly not from anything a stranger says. Got it BOZO??
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Saying ... "oh noes, a black person has power over me, he will surely ban guns so the blacks can finally take revenge on us for what we did to them for so many years" is so racist its pathetic. I'm high offended. Over 85% of Americans do not have ancestors that owned slaves. Just stop
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By the comments everyone has made to you so far, we all pretty much agree you are just causing trouble here.
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Really? Shit, I thought everybody here was agreeing with me. Damn, now I have to find a different circle-jerk group cause I can't stand people disagreeing with me.
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there is no bullet 'proof', there is bullet 'resistant', and in soft armor that pertains to standard pistol and shotgun munitions. Rifle munitions require the proper hard plates, and that is that.
I'm not kidding anyone, I'm trying to stick to reality, and reality is that antique weapons are not worthy or reliable adversaries or defences against a modern military force.
Anything else is not the topic, no matter how hard effort is made by others to massage the topic in their favor.
The fantasy that a civilian resistance stands any chance against an official opposing force with no functional restrictions to amount of force used is just that, a fantasy.
If it has to get to that point, the 'people' have already lost.
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I have seen the warfighter simulations for a civil uprising in the US, these have been run at the Command General Staff College at Kansas and it is and I quote "An impossible battle to win, much less a war" -General Tommy Franks
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WEll now, that's interesting.
Did they shut off power and utilities?
Did they shut down transportation grids and delivery of food and supplies?
Did they blast pockets of 'resistance with arty and air assets and run over them with tracks and armor?
Did the shut down netflix and youpron?
I'd think if the gloves were really off, scorched earth and unrestrained violence against civilians would do the trick to a population more suited for dancing with the stars instead of shooting at them.
Personally I think that when any pretext of civility towards so called rebels is removed by the mocha messiah, no quarter will be given until the wite debbil is all but exterminated
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You assume in this scenario that the members of the armed forces will be convinced to attack their fellow citizens. I don't share that assumption. In fact, I have just the opposite assumption.

TPTB need people to fly those planes and drive those tanks. They need minions to kill fellow citizens. I don't believe that they will have the needed forces that are willing to turn on their own fellow citizens.

I may be wrong, but I have faith that many if not most military members would join the fight against the government if it got to that point.



Additionally, just so you know, terms like "mocha messiah" and "wite debbil" might be paint you as racist if someone doesn't know you very well.
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fear of hunger and holding families hostage can be effective motivators to loot and murder, throughout history.
You dont need that many to do the deed, you simply need enough manpower to cut off access to power and supplies. After a week or two all resistance will effectively be over.
Somehow someone helped kill off millions of their neighbors in russia, china, cambodia, vietnam, etc etc. Who were those people and what were they promised?
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Saying ... "oh noes, a black person has power over me, he will surely ban guns so the blacks can finally take revenge on us for what we did to them for so many years" is so racist its pathetic. I'm high offended. Over 85% of Americans do not have ancestors that owned slaves. Just stop
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^^^THIS^^^
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I'm high offended. Over 85% of Americans do not have ancestors that owned slaves.
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Well then, don't take it personally then.
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I'm high offended. Over 85% of Americans do not have ancestors that owned slaves.
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Well then, don't take it personally then.
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Hey Phil, your signature says you are the Party Poopah....I just realized you are the POOP at the party. lmao

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Hey Phil, your signature says you are the Party Poopah....I just realized you are the POOP at the party.
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I am indeed. I am here to wreck your little echo chamber.

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