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closing eyes User ID: 24721119 United States 11/28/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deuteronomy 22:23-29 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27046534 New International Version (NIV) 23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you. 25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her. 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. @bible verses the bible is a lie this is bullshit ^^^ Here is the King James Version 23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; 24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. That would be terrible to live with your rapist for the rest of your life, who probably wouldnt treat you the best. If you woke up breathing, you have another chance! |
Sabali User ID: 28644176 Finland 11/28/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are voidness, but not in the sense of nothing, in negative sense, but in the sense of Ultimate consciousness, cause you are part of this The Universe like we all are. That's why there is saying: Universe plays hides and seek with itself, but it always comes back to itself. This literally means that no matter where our road takes us, it is going to lead us to same conclusion. That there is nothing but emptiness and we are voidness, in the sense of Ultimate Consciousness. Simply speaking we all are One. You are your own creator, center of your own Universe, giver of your own life, you are and you are not, and that is all what counts. We do not "come into" this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean "waves," the universe "peoples." Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated "egos" inside bags of skin. Along with love, compassion is the face of altruism. It is a feeling from deep in the heart that you cannot bear others’ suffering without acting to relieve it. As compassion grows stronger, so does your willingness to commit yourself to the welfare of all beings, even if you have to do it alone. You will be unbiased in your service to all beings, no matter how they respond to you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28633337 Brazil 11/28/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God is everything, all the matter is energy, and all energy vibrates, this vibrations have a "seed" which is simbolized by the OM mantra. This vibration is infinite, either up or down, fractalizing in consciences, and giving shape to everything. So basicaly in some level, the matter of you hand and keyboard, the empty space betwen them, are the same energy, the divinity. In other words, you are god, or better god are you, and you dont lose your individuality because of that. This is a such complex subject, i really dont want engage in discussion with Christians, i have no pacience and is worthless, I m just trying help the OP, whit an rapid and short explanation. Also i ' m out of my mother tongue, and is hard to me. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14518082 United States 11/28/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now why would you want to be a douche like that?? Does it make you feel good? Comfy in the "fact" that Christianity is going to save your soul after one measly life? The ugliest, smelliest, fattest person living in the gutter could be Christ for all you know as you drive by in your new car sneering in derision as you climb down a couple more rungs of the ladder. The glory of the most beautiful souls rarely is clothed in a "beautiful" exterior.....because being physically beautiful is a big ego trap that does way more harm than good spiritually..... It's hard to climb that ladder in high heels and a tight skirt! Or with all your precious "posessions" weighing you down. Many homeless are way higher up the ladder than you I'm afraid. But you have forever to figure it out and we all will eventually! So have a great day anyway! Namaste That was one of the most beautiful things I read, on this forum in a long time. You are definitely connected to your heart. Thank You AC. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4547295 United States 11/28/2012 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are pure positive energy, a piece of Source Energy, here in the physical body, out here on the leading edge of thought creating and doing a very good job. Source Energy is extremely pleased to interact with you in all ways. There is GREAT LOVE here for you. Contrast is required or there would be nothing to experience. |
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Starknight User ID: 26058371 Venezuela 11/28/2012 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People just won't get it... Quoting: balthuuu "Wow, if i'm god, then i'm doing a terrible job!" Alright folks, this is it: We are living in an experiment we created for ourselves. The point of the experiment(called life) is to gain as much experience(good AND bad). We knew this before we came here, we've just forgotten about it. Because what good is a game if you know the outcome beforehand? Just enjoy the ride/dream while it lasts. You'll remember when you wake up.(Yes dying, but it isn't end to anything). If we forgot all of "it", how come you do remember all of "it"? Contradictory. Then again, because that's the very same lie the serpent of old told Eve. 1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. @Starknight921 |
zi50 User ID: 25869708 United States 11/28/2012 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all the Christ Tards.......Jesus himself said the "The Kingdom of Heaven is within You" If the kingdom is within....don't you think the King (God) might be there too?? Saul had an "enlightenment" on the way to Damascus. I had a similar enlightenment using those "hokey New Age" methods. In both cases we were on our knees- AWESTRUCK by the glory of what GOD REALLY IS....mouth hanging open...tears streaming down in STUNNED AWE!! THAT is what knowing God is like. How many of your priests/rabbis have actually had a REAL spiritual experience like that? Not many. So why in hell do you put your soul in their hands? It's UP TO YOU to find God in your heart and ALL AROUND YOU! God is not some guy in the sky! God is EVERYTHING! God is REALITY ITSELF! THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. All of us are fragments of this God-Reality.....and the more we tune-in to this truth the more God-like we become. The fact is we are all slowly "becoming God".....some more slowly than others....but that makes no difference. We are ALL THE SAME THING. There are no races or religions when it comes to our TRUE SELVES.....only different rungs on the ladder that has God at the top. We have been "alive" for eternity.....but at least on this Earth plane we are cursed with a veil of forget when we come here. Some are lucky enough to pierce that veil while still in the physical - and to REMEMBER that they are powerful eternal spiritual beings that never "die". Why doesn't the Church teach this???? Because it's hard to fleece the flock once the flock KNOWS that the Church is full of crap- and are mostly after the $$$. Namaste- Beautifully put!! I agree 100%!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28624338 Brazil 11/28/2012 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People just won't get it... Quoting: balthuuu "Wow, if i'm god, then i'm doing a terrible job!" Alright folks, this is it: We are living in an experiment we created for ourselves. The point of the experiment(called life) is to gain as much experience(good AND bad). We knew this before we came here, we've just forgotten about it. Because what good is a game if you know the outcome beforehand? Just enjoy the ride/dream while it lasts. You'll remember when you wake up.(Yes dying, but it isn't end to anything). "Let me take this moment to state again that there are no devils or demons, except as you create them out of your belief...good and evil effects are basically illusions. In your terms all acts, regardless of their seeming nature, are a part of a greater good. I am not saying that a good end justifies what you would consider an evil action. While you still accept the effects of good and evil, then you had better choose the good. I am saying this as simply as possible. There are profound complications beneath my words, however." - Seth - Jane Roberts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19320175 United States 11/28/2012 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all the Christ Tards.......Jesus himself said the "The Kingdom of Heaven is within You" If the kingdom is within....don't you think the King (God) might be there too?? Saul had an "enlightenment" on the way to Damascus. I had a similar enlightenment using those "hokey New Age" methods. In both cases we were on our knees- AWESTRUCK by the glory of what GOD REALLY IS....mouth hanging open...tears streaming down in STUNNED AWE!! THAT is what knowing God is like. How many of your priests/rabbis have actually had a REAL spiritual experience like that? Not many. So why in hell do you put your soul in their hands? It's UP TO YOU to find God in your heart and ALL AROUND YOU! God is not some guy in the sky! God is EVERYTHING! God is REALITY ITSELF! THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. All of us are fragments of this God-Reality.....and the more we tune-in to this truth the more God-like we become. The fact is we are all slowly "becoming God".....some more slowly than others....but that makes no difference. We are ALL THE SAME THING. There are no races or religions when it comes to our TRUE SELVES.....only different rungs on the ladder that has God at the top. We have been "alive" for eternity.....but at least on this Earth plane we are cursed with a veil of forget when we come here. Some are lucky enough to pierce that veil while still in the physical - and to REMEMBER that they are powerful eternal spiritual beings that never "die". Why doesn't the Church teach this???? Because it's hard to fleece the flock once the flock KNOWS that the Church is full of crap- and are mostly after the $$$. Namaste- Beautifully put!! I agree 100%!!!! Bow before the all-powerful Zeus! |
closing eyes User ID: 24721119 United States 11/28/2012 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we are fragments of God, I believe. meaning, we have the same power, but we are so closed off to the limitless possibilities God gave his seedlings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27896466 Maybe God have given bits of himself to 7 billion people, only to be reunited on a later date. WHEN WILL YOU MORTALS GET THE POINT Since. You. Say. Your God please. Just exxplain. It for us. I dont know whyy my computter is typing. Like this. If you woke up breathing, you have another chance! |
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714 User ID: 26063685 United States 11/28/2012 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | same ol lie from the beginning "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God. |
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DesignLov3 User ID: 27755618 United States 11/28/2012 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^ Amen. Sad to see those who are deceived and know not Jesus Christ, the way, the truth. If anyone wants to know how to be saved, or more about Christianity you may email me [email protected] -Steve |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28646641 Canada 11/28/2012 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See why there is no godS : Thread: Parents , the Ultimate Criminals ?? ... and Their Direct Consequence : Religion , the Ultimate Proof of Stupidity ! No Wonder ! Judge one by its Creations ?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28645434 United Kingdom 11/28/2012 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are all of the same source. Our bodies are mere extensions between the lower dimensions, realities, frequencies or whatever you want to call them. We are all one being experiencing itself trough infinite vessels. Quoting: balthuuu Enjoying the ride yet? Of course there is God, but he/she works through us if we let him/her! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6139196 United States 11/28/2012 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was probably a better way of wording your title to avoid offending people. But, I think I see what you're tying to say. There is no God as anything/one that can be conceived or labeled by our mind. God (Source) exists as the ALL (omnipresent) and as we are included in that all, then God is us, too. He does not exist separate or apart from us and never could... else He would not be omnipresent. He'd only be partially present. |
Vankman1 User ID: 3158856 United States 11/28/2012 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I love so much about Western, Christian philosophy and Christian mysticism (and I'm going to, yet again, borrow from and paraphrase Chesterton here) is the stark contrast in ideology from Eastern religions. In Eastern religions, just as the OP suggests, God is in everything and everything is God, whereas in Western religions there is a stark contrast to this belief. The West explicitly denies that idea. In the East, there is ecstasy in unity, but in Christian mysticism there is an ecstasy of creation. Christianity is on the side of humanity, liberty, and love. Love desires personality, therefore love desires division. It is the instinct of Christianity to be glad that God broke the universe into little pieces (like our souls), because they are living pieces. This is the great intellectual gap between eastern religions and Christianity. Ancient Eastern and more modern philosophies (new age type) are like chains that connect and fetter, whereas Christianity is a sword that separates and sets free. No other philosophy makes God actually rejoice in the separation of the universe into living souls. And, this separation is sacred, because it is eternal. Furthermore, Christianity has the audacity to go on to claim that our creator (whoever or whatever he is), visited us at a point in time, in the flesh. Quite fascinating, to say the least. These are all reasons why I've been drawn more and more to Western religious philosophies and to Christ in recent years, and away from a lot of the Eastern philosophies. I've just found more personal fulfillment there, as I look up and try to contemplate this reality with a finite meat brain and five limited senses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26645260 United States 11/28/2012 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I love so much about Western, Christian philosophy and Christian mysticism (and I'm going to, yet again, borrow from and paraphrase Chesterton here) is the stark contrast in ideology from Eastern religions. In Eastern religions, just as the OP suggests, God is in everything and everything is God, whereas in Western religions there is a stark contrast to this belief. The West explicitly denies that idea. In the East, there is ecstasy in unity, but in Christian mysticism there is an ecstasy of creation. Christianity is on the side of humanity, liberty, and love. Love desires personality, therefore love desires division. It is the instinct of Christianity to be glad that God broke the universe into little pieces (like our souls), because they are living pieces. This is the great intellectual gap between eastern religions and Christianity. Ancient Eastern and more modern philosophies (new age type) are like chains that connect and fetter, whereas Christianity is a sword that separates and sets free. No other philosophy makes God actually rejoice in the separation of the universe into living souls. And, this separation is sacred, because it is eternal. Furthermore, Christianity has the audacity to go on to claim that our creator (whoever or whatever he is), visited us at a point in time, in the flesh. Quite fascinating, to say the least. These are all reasons why I've been drawn more and more to Western religious philosophies and to Christ in recent years, and away from a lot of the Eastern philosophies. I've just found more personal fulfillment there, as I look up and try to contemplate this reality with a finite meat brain and five limited senses. Quoting: Vankman1 Good post |
422 User ID: 28650193 United States 11/28/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Deuteronomy 22:23-29 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27046534 New International Version (NIV) 23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you. 25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her. 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives. @bible verses the bible is a lie this is bullshit ^^^ Here is the King James Version 23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; 24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. 25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die. 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her. 28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days. LOL the exact same message, just different wording of it. “You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe.” John Adams, Second President of the United States |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28639446 United States 11/28/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The base of the ancestral wisdom is labeled as new age, very clever! Quoting: Dan_lkd Just wait for your savior, but why dont sit yourself and meditate while he not arrives! Meditation is the DEVIL!!!! But don't blame me, I'm just a mindless christian that condemns everything that's not in the book that I think was written by God.However, for some reason I still don't believe in any other fairytales. |
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I'm a bit of god too User ID: 28652221 United Kingdom 11/28/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post OP, what I find amazing is the amount of hostility to your suggestion that we are all part of one conciousness (the all). Supporters of organised religion feel very threatened it would seem. Fact is none of us know the truth till we get there but your version of reality sounds a lot more plausible than the pope's if you know what I mean. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6139196 United States 11/28/2012 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The base of the ancestral wisdom is labeled as new age, very clever! Quoting: Dan_lkd Just wait for your savior, but why dont sit yourself and meditate while he not arrives! Meditation is the DEVIL!!!! But don't blame me, I'm just a mindless christian that condemns everything that's not in the book that I think was written by God.However, for some reason I still don't believe in any other fairytales. |