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Trying to express real truth here is like trying to wear a white suit in a pig sty.

 
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If you're able to sift through the various shillery this website can be extremely useful It is what it is
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Yes, I said those very words earlier. BUT, the threads with true knowledge and wisdom don't last very long before they are ridden into the ground with hate, ignorance and ugliness...
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It's deliberate and by design.
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Brief is the sage around here. It is all his fault. tounge
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Again. I find your "humor" sad and silly. But, you are right, Brief is a perfect example of someone that simply derides beautiful threads for no other reason than he doesn't agree with or understand them.

He'll show up soon and this thread will be lost also.
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He gave me a pleasant surprise today.

I pointed out that his divorce is as common as ignorance and his usual retort of 'ignorance can be fixed, but you can't fix stupid' came.

To which I gave my sympathy for his need to use mirroring to defend himself when his subconscious knows doing so is futile. Someday he might realize that his conscious judgments projected onto others are usually his subconscious judgments of himself.

The only true form of stupidity is placing oneself in a mindset that one has acquired all the knowledge needed for one's lifetime. There are always new perspectives to be acquired. It is sad when one such as Brief so vehemently defends a static perspective for so long.

My surprise came when he didn't reply to me a second time. Maybe he is starting to learn from his mistakes, and meanwhile learning from them without having to make them more than once. Or maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant to the depth of truth that Brief spews forth.
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Re: Trying to express real truth here is like trying to wear a white suit in a pig sty.
As I said, this place is what it is.
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Welcome to the first supper of the new millennium.

Here we all are sharing our lives as if pieces of bread.

It is an open invitation so you just don't know who is going to arrive.

I tried to be more selective, but those I selected didn't want to come.

So, enjoy the party.

It was planned for you from the beginning.
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11/28/2012 02:44 PM
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Re: Trying to express real truth here is like trying to wear a white suit in a pig sty.
If you're able to sift through the various shillery this website can be extremely useful It is what it is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276561


Yes, I said those very words earlier. BUT, the threads with true knowledge and wisdom don't last very long before they are ridden into the ground with hate, ignorance and ugliness...
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It's deliberate and by design.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1276561


I'm still trying to decide whether there really are disinformation agents here derailing threads that are getting too close to the truth or whether the threads are destroyed by suffering lost or just immature souls that have nothing better to do than destroy the beautiful and wise threads just like a spoiled child stomping on a beautiful flower.
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So...tell us OP...what is "the truth"?
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11/28/2012 02:46 PM
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Brief is the sage around here. It is all his fault. tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24068631


Again. I find your "humor" sad and silly. But, you are right, Brief is a perfect example of someone that simply derides beautiful threads for no other reason than he doesn't agree with or understand them.

He'll show up soon and this thread will be lost also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


He gave me a pleasant surprise today.

I pointed out that his divorce is as common as ignorance and his usual retort of 'ignorance can be fixed, but you can't fix stupid' came.

To which I gave my sympathy for his need to use mirroring to defend himself when his subconscious knows doing so is futile. Someday he might realize that his conscious judgments projected onto others are usually his subconscious judgments of himself.

The only true form of stupidity is placing oneself in a mindset that one has acquired all the knowledge needed for one's lifetime. There are always new perspectives to be acquired. It is sad when one such as Brief so vehemently defends a static perspective for so long.

My surprise came when he didn't reply to me a second time. Maybe he is starting to learn from his mistakes, and meanwhile learning from them without having to make them more than once. Or maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant to the depth of truth that Brief spews forth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1561325


He has destroyed or damaged so many beautiful and wise threads I hope you are right. I can tell that he is a very tortured and suffering soul. I feel sorry for him...
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Re: Trying to express real truth here is like trying to wear a white suit in a pig sty.
What is the real truth?
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My truth may not and probably is not anyone else's truth. That doesn't mean that others may not find it worth hearing.

My point is that once a wise and valuable truth is expressed, others cannot simply let the thread pass without the need to attack, degrade or insult the OP for their views.

Again, the issue is NOT with GLP. I find the sight very useful. My issue is with people that feel the need to attack threads that they know nothing about simply to kill or derail the discussion.

But hey, as I said, it is what it is. It's just sad that all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


For someone who just asked this question again, here is how I answered it earlier.
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So...tell us OP...what is "the truth"?
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Please see below.
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So...tell us OP...what is "the truth"?
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Please see below.
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I mean above... *smile*
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11/28/2012 02:55 PM
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As I said, this place is what it is.
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Welcome to the first supper of the new millennium.

Here we all are sharing our lives as if pieces of bread.

It is an open invitation so you just don't know who is going to arrive.

I tried to be more selective, but those I selected didn't want to come.

So, enjoy the party.

It was planned for you from the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13843864


Instead of eating my bread, must they stomp on it or call it tasteless? Cannot they simply leave quietly and respectfully?
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11/28/2012 02:56 PM
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Re: Trying to express real truth here is like trying to wear a white suit in a pig sty.
Nobody here knows the truth. The ones who insist they do are the delusional ones.

Not sure why they have trouble admitting that they only have their opinion of what the "truth" is.
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11/28/2012 02:58 PM
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Re: Trying to express real truth here is like trying to wear a white suit in a pig sty.
GLP's for entertainment only and that it does quite well.

If you think it's for anything else other than that then you truly ARE delusional.
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11/28/2012 02:59 PM
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Nobody here knows the truth. The ones who insist they do are the delusional ones.

Not sure why they have trouble admitting that they only have their opinion of what the "truth" is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25247644


Or are willing to let others express their views. Are their views so tenuous that other views cannot be considered?
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11/28/2012 03:01 PM
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Brief is the sage around here. It is all his fault. tounge
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24068631


Again. I find your "humor" sad and silly. But, you are right, Brief is a perfect example of someone that simply derides beautiful threads for no other reason than he doesn't agree with or understand them.

He'll show up soon and this thread will be lost also.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


He gave me a pleasant surprise today.

I pointed out that his divorce is as common as ignorance and his usual retort of 'ignorance can be fixed, but you can't fix stupid' came.

To which I gave my sympathy for his need to use mirroring to defend himself when his subconscious knows doing so is futile. Someday he might realize that his conscious judgments projected onto others are usually his subconscious judgments of himself.

The only true form of stupidity is placing oneself in a mindset that one has acquired all the knowledge needed for one's lifetime. There are always new perspectives to be acquired. It is sad when one such as Brief so vehemently defends a static perspective for so long.

My surprise came when he didn't reply to me a second time. Maybe he is starting to learn from his mistakes, and meanwhile learning from them without having to make them more than once. Or maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant to the depth of truth that Brief spews forth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1561325


If that dudes not a paid shill I feel really bad for him! I was trying to explain why it isn't fair to fine NJ residents $2,000 a week, since it is gonna take forever for the insurance to pay out.

He says he would stay on top of them and get it taken care of. LOL

So after some back and forth, I used calling 911 as an example. I get a red karma for comparing the two. Not signed, so could be anybody... But I'm guessing its him.
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GLP's for entertainment only and that it does quite well.

If you think it's for anything else other than that then you truly ARE delusional.
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So many people say this, but it simply isn't true. There are some VERY deep and wise threads posted here. To call everything posted here as open entertainment is not only foolish, but ignorant.

I gather knowledge and truth where I find it.
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Nobody here knows the truth. The ones who insist they do are the delusional ones.

Not sure why they have trouble admitting that they only have their opinion of what the "truth" is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25247644


I come on for different angles, since I'm only seeing it my way.

But it does get very hard to deal with.
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11/28/2012 03:07 PM
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Nobody here knows the truth. The ones who insist they do are the delusional ones.

Not sure why they have trouble admitting that they only have their opinion of what the "truth" is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25247644


I come on for different angles, since I'm only seeing it my way.

But it does get very hard to deal with.
 Quoting: andawg221


SO much valuable knowledge gets destroyed here by ignorant and suffering fools.

Because GLP is so large and so many people visit here, there are people that really could help others, but their threads get derailed within minutes of being posted in many cases.

Again, I don't know if this is disinfo agents or just stupidity and hate...
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11/28/2012 03:12 PM
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As I said, this place is what it is.
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Welcome to the first supper of the new millennium.

Here we all are sharing our lives as if pieces of bread.

It is an open invitation so you just don't know who is going to arrive.

I tried to be more selective, but those I selected didn't want to come.

So, enjoy the party.

It was planned for you from the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13843864


Instead of eating my bread, must they stomp on it or call it tasteless? Cannot they simply leave quietly and respectfully?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


I do not want any to leave.

Some are drunk on the old wine.

Keep offering them water until they sober up.

They would not be here if not for this very purpose.

Is it yours to decide?
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11/28/2012 03:16 PM
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As I said, this place is what it is.
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Welcome to the first supper of the new millennium.

Here we all are sharing our lives as if pieces of bread.

It is an open invitation so you just don't know who is going to arrive.

I tried to be more selective, but those I selected didn't want to come.

So, enjoy the party.

It was planned for you from the beginning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13843864


Instead of eating my bread, must they stomp on it or call it tasteless? Cannot they simply leave quietly and respectfully?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


I do not want any to leave.

Some are drunk on the old wine.

Keep offering them water until they sober up.

They would not be here if not for this very purpose.

Is it yours to decide?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13843864


In my view, disrespect, ugliness and disruption serve no purpose, but to cause pain to others. The ones doing it certainly don't gain from such behavior. In truth, they cause themselves deep damage.
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11/28/2012 03:29 PM
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Real truth must by it's own definition be limited to empirical evidence, universally attainable through repetition of procedure or method.

Anything else is based on belief, personal or collective.
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If I knew that the trolls were simply young kids looking to cause trouble or even disinformation agents assigned to disrupt any threads that got too close to the truth, in a way I would feel less sad. Because if the reason that important and useful knowledge does not get shared is really because of angry, suffering and lost souls, that would be very sad indeed...
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Real truth must by it's own definition be limited to empirical evidence, universally attainable through repetition of procedure or method.

Anything else is based on belief, personal or collective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17938575


I have not found that to be the case, but I may be wrong. But, in any case, truth based on belief is worth pursuing.
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"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it -- always."

-- Mahatma Gandhi
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And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

<< John 8:32 >>
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And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

<< John 8:32 >>
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Yes
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Truth is Hate to Those Who Hate the Truth!
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Real truth must by it's own definition be limited to empirical evidence, universally attainable through repetition of procedure or method.

Anything else is based on belief, personal or collective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17938575


I have not found that to be the case, but I may be wrong. But, in any case, truth based on belief is worth pursuing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422

Any truth based on belief is not provable and therefore is not real truth. It may satisfy one's individual criteria for evidence and thus become a personal truth.
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Real truth must by it's own definition be limited to empirical evidence, universally attainable through repetition of procedure or method.

Anything else is based on belief, personal or collective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17938575


I have not found that to be the case, but I may be wrong. But, in any case, truth based on belief is worth pursuing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422

Any truth based on belief is not provable and therefore is not real truth. It may satisfy one's individual criteria for evidence and thus become a personal truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17938575


Where did you get the idea that truth must be provable? The kinds of ideas and understandings I am talking about can never be proven in this physical reality. I never feel the need to prove anything to anyone, but myself.

That is where Science has taken us completely off course. God, who we are and why we are here will never be proved by modern science and therefore is useless to me.

The only proof you will EVER find is to look into your heart and listen to whether it feel right...

I know, most will not understand that logic and that's ok with me.
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Truth is Hate to Those Who Hate the Truth!
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Yes
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11/28/2012 04:28 PM
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It's not an issue with GLP, it's just the nature of the place. It is what it is.

With so many ugly, lost and damaged souls here, trying to present real truth is not easy. As soon as someone speaks with truth and wisdom, some fool feels the need to try and post some clever retort even though they have no clue what they are saying.

I'm not angry or attacking anyone. As I said, this place is what it is.

There are some very deep and wise threads posted here, but they don't last long before they are soiled by fools...

Peace
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Whilst I too would question "What is real truth" and sometimes learn things from many who post angry replies, I generally agree with you OP.

hf

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