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the u.s. Economy is in Full Recovery!!!!!

 
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From the page idiot OP linked:

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11/29/2012 07:24 PM
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Look at the mortage market you tool.
It is run by buy to let millionaires...jeeze some people are so financially illiterate.

Now think about the sovereign debt of the USA.

16 trill. Moving up fast.

How will this be paid back?


For this to be paid back the US would have to grow and an incredible rate, something like 12% a year for the next 20 years - nearly unheard of.


Tard.
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Look at the mortage market you tool.
It is run by buy to let millionaires...jeeze some people are so financially illiterate.

Now think about the sovereign debt of the USA.

16 trill. Moving up fast.

How will this be paid back?


For this to be paid back the US would have to grow and an incredible rate, something like 12% a year for the next 20 years - nearly unheard of.


Tard.
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THE RECOVERY IS STRONG BITCHES!!!!! screamscream
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11/29/2012 07:57 PM
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I said it before and i'll say it again. Theyre destroying what previous administrations and built in order to REBUILD something greater.

Its a new day and order so the slate must be cleared to make way for the new world vision that has been bestowed upon us in the form of a most angelic and godly man who is known as Barack Obama.
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Don't talk rubbish. If you were to suddenly join the ranks of "they" tomorrow after a Lotto win, you would quickly be doing what anyone with lots of wealth is doing at the moment...looking anywhere in the world for a better return. The fact that governments follow through certain policies in this climate has more to do with keeping as many happy till the next election. Poltics is a lucrative career and Obama, Romney, Bush are all career politicians!

As regards the economy, the OP is correct. A period of protracted post Bush adjustment will follow (Bush incidentally had to do what he did....Iraq oil, as far as the markets were concerned, was wasted in Saddam's hands), countries will have to adjust their electorate's expectations (whilst ensuring that they have the means to spend) and it will be back to business as usual.

How do you morons get through the day with so little of those brain cells used?
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Look at the mortage market you tool.
It is run by buy to let millionaires...jeeze some people are so financially illiterate.

Now think about the sovereign debt of the USA.

16 trill. Moving up fast.

How will this be paid back?


For this to be paid back the US would have to grow and an incredible rate, something like 12% a year for the next 20 years - nearly unheard of.


Tard.
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The US debt, like all government debt worldwide, is being funded by labour surplus worldwide, of which there is ample. Show me one person who is really prepared to forego consumerism in this day and age, and thats not counting the billions who wish to join those ranks.
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11/29/2012 08:03 PM
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BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11/29/2012 08:07 PM
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in 4 years obama will be the richest black man in the world. oh and he bought a new mansion for 15 million dollars in hawaii.
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11/29/2012 08:10 PM
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in 4 years obama will be the richest black man in the world. oh and he bought a new mansion for 15 million dollars in hawaii.
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I don't see the relevance of your point considering that self enrichment is a central plank of our economy.
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11/29/2012 08:15 PM
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Desperate Troll thread!!!


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11/29/2012 08:27 PM
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[link to money.cnn.com] Suck on it Bitches!!!!!!! 5a
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M2 money velocity and baltic dry are at or near all time lows. Which means consumer confidence is very low and the real consumers spending less than they ever have. Stock markets will always have activity because of the 401ks / superfunds.
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[link to money.cnn.com] Suck on it Bitches!!!!!!! 5a
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M2 money velocity and baltic dry are at or near all time lows. Which means consumer confidence is very low and the real consumers spending less than they ever have. Stock markets will always have activity because of the 401ks / superfunds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282


Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
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[link to money.cnn.com] Suck on it Bitches!!!!!!! 5a
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M2 money velocity and baltic dry are at or near all time lows. Which means consumer confidence is very low and the real consumers spending less than they ever have. Stock markets will always have activity because of the 401ks / superfunds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282


Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
 Quoting: Marxist


If we ever got to meet face to face, I'd leave you in a pool of tears and blood.

hf
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[link to money.cnn.com] Suck on it Bitches!!!!!!! 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26104768


M2 money velocity and baltic dry are at or near all time lows. Which means consumer confidence is very low and the real consumers spending less than they ever have. Stock markets will always have activity because of the 401ks / superfunds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282


Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
 Quoting: Marxist


If we ever got to meet face to face, I'd leave you in a pool of tears and blood.

hf
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Still will not alter the objective flow of this system.
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11/29/2012 08:48 PM
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Lets all smoke some of what the OP is smoking.
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11/29/2012 08:52 PM
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I will buy 5 grams of what ever you are smoking!

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I love these threads because then I come back in a week and laugh when the real numbers come out.

OP be smokin dat BAMA ROCK!

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Lives are going to change and are changing, but if you think that this globalising system will collapse any time soon, you people will be sadly disappointed. Change is not for our generation. We can only but try to understand this system and make the most of our lives in these times of turmoil. Thats about as good as it will get.
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[link to money.cnn.com] Suck on it Bitches!!!!!!! 5a
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26104768


M2 money velocity and baltic dry are at or near all time lows. Which means consumer confidence is very low and the real consumers spending less than they ever have. Stock markets will always have activity because of the 401ks / superfunds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282


Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
 Quoting: Marxist


If we ever got to meet face to face, I'd leave you in a pool of tears and blood.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Im not to sure what you mean but consumerism is a reward of growth not the cause of it. The USA thought they get send all the hard manufacturing jobs offshore in become a service based economy. Look how that lazy idea turned out for them. Sadly Australia is much the same. Manufacturing is a good idea. It also brings a sense of healthy sentiment when making things with your lands own resources.
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M2 money velocity and baltic dry are at or near all time lows. Which means consumer confidence is very low and the real consumers spending less than they ever have. Stock markets will always have activity because of the 401ks / superfunds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282


Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
 Quoting: Marxist


If we ever got to meet face to face, I'd leave you in a pool of tears and blood.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Im not to sure what you mean but consumerism is a reward of growth not the cause of it. The USA thought they get send all the hard manufacturing jobs offshore in become a service based economy. Look how that lazy idea turned out for them. Sadly Australia is much the same. Manufacturing is a good idea. It also brings a sense of healthy sentiment when making things with your lands own resources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282

As an example. Australia currently mines a lot of iron ore and ships to china for processing into steel beams etc. We then reimport the steel from china which was made with our own iron ore. The accounting side probably makes sense but surely Australia would be better off in the long run processing its own steel products.
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Oddball: We see our role as essentially defensive in nature. While our armies are advancing so fast and everyone's knocking themselves out to be heroes, we are holding ourselves in reserve in case the Krauts mount a counteroffensive which threatens Paris... or maybe even New York. Then we can move in and stop them. But for 1.6 million dollars, we could become heroes for three days.
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M2 money velocity and baltic dry are at or near all time lows. Which means consumer confidence is very low and the real consumers spending less than they ever have. Stock markets will always have activity because of the 401ks / superfunds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282


Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
 Quoting: Marxist


If we ever got to meet face to face, I'd leave you in a pool of tears and blood.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Still will not alter the objective flow of this system.
 Quoting: Marxist


Perhaps not, but I'd feel a whole fucking lot better, seeing you gasp your last, confused, worthless breath.

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Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
 Quoting: Marxist


If we ever got to meet face to face, I'd leave you in a pool of tears and blood.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Im not to sure what you mean but consumerism is a reward of growth not the cause of it. The USA thought they get send all the hard manufacturing jobs offshore in become a service based economy. Look how that lazy idea turned out for them. Sadly Australia is much the same. Manufacturing is a good idea. It also brings a sense of healthy sentiment when making things with your lands own resources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28747282

As an example. Australia currently mines a lot of iron ore and ships to china for processing into steel beams etc. We then reimport the steel from china which was made with our own iron ore. The accounting side probably makes sense but surely Australia would be better off in the long run processing its own steel products.
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I absolutely agree that creating as in manufacturing is good for a person. But that is from an emotional perspective. When you look at capital objectively, despite what any politician may promise you, when the chips are down, those with the capital to create manufacturing businesses at home will instead look for fatter profits overseas. And if a country tries to introduce protectionism, the markets will make it conform to free market rules.

Despite all Romney said, had he been elected, the liberalisation of investment would have speeded up. Obama is not quite as free to liberalise as he is perhaps being asked as he knows that he also has to keep his electorate happy. Romney on the other hand was not hamstrung as his working electorate (the mass of his voters) are by and large dumb. You would have to be to vote for a man who wants to ship your job offshore and is openly in favour of lesser regulation as a consequence.

The best that we can get these days in protectionism is the weak variant social democrats worldwide are offering. Its not much but its about as good as it will get.
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This is the worst kind of doom!!!! No Doom at all!!!
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Deflation will underpin consumerism as manufacturing continues to move to Asia.

Long term, tomorrow's Aussie employees will for example, be teaching English in Asia and of course, be chasing jobs worldwide as the job market internationalises.

Capitalism must eventually collapse but for the moment, with three billion and more potential consumers and confusion reigning as to how much remains in commodities, this American and European blip is just that, a blip.
 Quoting: Marxist


If we ever got to meet face to face, I'd leave you in a pool of tears and blood.

hf
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Still will not alter the objective flow of this system.
 Quoting: Marxist


Perhaps not, but I'd feel a whole fucking lot better, seeing you gasp your last, confused, worthless breath.

dance
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Yeah I know, the truth hurts. How do you think I feel as a Marxist. But hey, like I said, 6 billion eager consumers aren't gonna make for change anytime soon. Understand the system and live accordingly. Thats the best you can do.
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