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The Fact That You Graduated College Doesn't Mean That You're Smart.

 
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No ofcourse not. But on general people who did college might be a little more crisp. Not to say college people are always smarter and non-college people are always dumber, certainly not, many brilliant people were dropouts. But in general I do think someone who went through 4 more years of schooling has a more in depth approach to things, not all things and not to say non-college people can't approach things in depth, but in general. I mean not everybody who didn't went to college didn't went because they didn't needed it. Some tried and just weren't good enough.
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I have never heard of any brilliant person having been a high school dropout.
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There are, just maybe not in your field. There are multiple forms of intelligence. Just because they dont pass the empiric scientific validity construct that has been trained into your mind doesn't mean anything.

It is imposible for a single human to posses or even fathom all knowledge, but you obviously know that.
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24 yo highschool drop out Male here.

I tried to graduate 3 times. Never passed the test...because of ONE subject/course. "Accouting" Who the fuck even needs accounting, beside the sheeple working in fucking banks and I don't know where else. This shitty course ruined my life. I ruined my life because of one fucking subject.

The worse is: I'm not able anymore to pass highschool here in Europe, at least legally.

I don't know what I should do with my life. Sitting here in my parent's house. Having some time fun at weekends with some girls but that's it. I fucked everything up..
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Try a trade school, einstein. You can learn job skills in just a few months. Job skills that can help you earn a decent living and help you raise a family.
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What the fuck is a trade school? And what are those skills?
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Are you serious? You really don't know what a trade school is? I guess the reason why you didn't graduate is because you were too dumb to graduate.

A trade school is a school where people go to learn job skills. For example, a person who wants to learn to become an automotive technician would go to a trade school that specializes in training automotive technicians. If a person wants to become an electrician, that person would go to a trade school that specializes in training electricians. Get it?
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I see, but I'm not american, not familiar with "Trade schools" and tbh I don't know of many trade schools here.. Know One which specializes in Commercial activities and such. Bullshit for me.

I wouldn't know what to pick either.
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^They take 3 years to complete here. 3 FUCKING YEARS.. not months like you suggested.
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Of course going to college doesn't mean you're smart. Nor does not going to college make you dumb. Why all the vile anti-intellectualism?

College can have value. It really depends on the person doesn't it? Anything you can learn in college you can learn on-line, but the odds of actually exerting the effort to learn the same volume of information outside of college are remote.

College (this depends on your major of course) isn't so much about making you "smart." It is supposed to give you a broad base from which to work from. It is supposed to teach you to be a competent researcher capable of producing valid material.

Sneeze at that if you want, but 99% of the time the non-college graduate (and sadly 50% of the time even the college grad) simply is not capable of contributing to any research field.

I often see people claim that all the "real smart" people drop out of college. Then they'll offer a name or two of some famous people who did just that as evidence to support their claims. That is garbage. The fact is that there are exceptions to every rule and such people are exceptions. Additionally, the people cited are often from the early 20th century or before. That was a time when a smart person with a curious nature could actually make discoveries. We have mostly moved away from those days what with the depth of technical knowledge today.

Einstein went to college. So did Oppenheimer, Hawking, Sagan, Planck, Bergen, Johanson, and the vast majority of the thousands of others who have contributed knowledge and discoveries to humanity.

It would appear that those so quick to denigrate college are either jealous or else have been exposed to some intellectual snob.
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Reading something online is not the same as learning something in school. The reason for a professor is that the professor clarifies what is being studied. Two people can read the same passage in a textbook and have two completely different understandings of what the passage means. It is the job of the professor to clarify what the passage means. So no, you can not learn the same thing online as in school.

This is a conspiracy site and it is meant to uncover conspiracies. One conspiracy is the dumbing down of America. People like the OP will attempt to make people think that being educated is worthless. In other words, he wants you to be a nice and obedient sheep. That is also the reason why TPTB want drugs decriminalized. The more drugs people use, the less ability they have to think clearly. If you take away the ability of the populous to learn and think clearly, TPTB can do anything they want with impunity.
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^They take 3 years to complete here. 3 FUCKING YEARS.. not months like you suggested.
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In the US, it takes about six months to train to become an automotive technician. I'm pretty sure that cars are no more complicated in your country than in the US. Maybe your people are just really slow learners so that's why it takes three years. Then again, maybe you are just full of shit and it doesn't take three years. It only takes two years to earn an Associate's Degree in college why would someone take three years to earn a trade school degree?
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Of course going to college doesn't mean you're smart. Nor does not going to college make you dumb. Why all the vile anti-intellectualism?

College can have value. It really depends on the person doesn't it? Anything you can learn in college you can learn on-line, but the odds of actually exerting the effort to learn the same volume of information outside of college are remote.

College (this depends on your major of course) isn't so much about making you "smart." It is supposed to give you a broad base from which to work from. It is supposed to teach you to be a competent researcher capable of producing valid material.

Sneeze at that if you want, but 99% of the time the non-college graduate (and sadly 50% of the time even the college grad) simply is not capable of contributing to any research field.

I often see people claim that all the "real smart" people drop out of college. Then they'll offer a name or two of some famous people who did just that as evidence to support their claims. That is garbage. The fact is that there are exceptions to every rule and such people are exceptions. Additionally, the people cited are often from the early 20th century or before. That was a time when a smart person with a curious nature could actually make discoveries. We have mostly moved away from those days what with the depth of technical knowledge today.

Einstein went to college. So did Oppenheimer, Hawking, Sagan, Planck, Bergen, Johanson, and the vast majority of the thousands of others who have contributed knowledge and discoveries to humanity.

It would appear that those so quick to denigrate college are either jealous or else have been exposed to some intellectual snob.
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Bingo
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No, they're just jealous.
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Try a trade school, einstein. You can learn job skills in just a few months. Job skills that can help you earn a decent living and help you raise a family.
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What the fuck is a trade school? And what are those skills?
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Are you serious? You really don't know what a trade school is? I guess the reason why you didn't graduate is because you were too dumb to graduate.

A trade school is a school where people go to learn job skills. For example, a person who wants to learn to become an automotive technician would go to a trade school that specializes in training automotive technicians. If a person wants to become an electrician, that person would go to a trade school that specializes in training electricians. Get it?
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I see, but I'm not american, not familiar with "Trade schools" and tbh I don't know of many trade schools here.. Know One which specializes in Commercial activities and such. Bullshit for me.

I wouldn't know what to pick either.
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Dude, get off your ass, stop bitching, quit smoking weed, and get on with your life. You could train to be a commercial driver in something like three months. Commercial drivers in the US make a very good living and you could eventually parlay that into a lucrative business of your own.
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I agree OP. Critical thinking is not taught in most programs. Besides intelligence is mostly determined by environmental factors before the age of 7.
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It must really suck to be a tard constantly spouting non-sense and constantly being corrected by intelligent people who devoted extra years to their education.
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I agree OP. Critical thinking is not taught in most programs. Besides intelligence is mostly determined by environmental factors before the age of 7.
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You must be a pedophile because that is the calling card of pedos to say that people are fully developed at a young age. Fucking idiot.

Critical thinking is taught at all levels. It's called math. I don't know of any educational program whether that does not require math. Grammar school, junior high, high school, college/university all require some form of math before graduating.
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It must really suck to be a tard constantly spouting non-sense and constantly being corrected by intelligent people who devoted extra years to their education.
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The fact that I cancelled school doesn't mean I'm silly.
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^They take 3 years to complete here. 3 FUCKING YEARS.. not months like you suggested.
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In the US, it takes about six months to train to become an automotive technician. I'm pretty sure that cars are no more complicated in your country than in the US. Maybe your people are just really slow learners so that's why it takes three years. Then again, maybe you are just full of shit and it doesn't take three years. It only takes two years to earn an Associate's Degree in college why would someone take three years to earn a trade school degree?
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Okay what do you suggest picking then? I had in mind to try real estate agent and I just saw that I need to go to a "trading school" FOR 3 YEARS. Partly you're in school and partly you work in reallife practice situations.

I'm going to try it.. It's in berlin, sounds not bad.

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What the fuck is a trade school? And what are those skills?
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Are you serious? You really don't know what a trade school is? I guess the reason why you didn't graduate is because you were too dumb to graduate.

A trade school is a school where people go to learn job skills. For example, a person who wants to learn to become an automotive technician would go to a trade school that specializes in training automotive technicians. If a person wants to become an electrician, that person would go to a trade school that specializes in training electricians. Get it?
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I see, but I'm not american, not familiar with "Trade schools" and tbh I don't know of many trade schools here.. Know One which specializes in Commercial activities and such. Bullshit for me.

I wouldn't know what to pick either.
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Dude, get off your ass, stop bitching, quit smoking weed, and get on with your life. You could train to be a commercial driver in something like three months. Commercial drivers in the US make a very good living and you could eventually parlay that into a lucrative business of your own.
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Allright, thanks for the advice, gonna try it..
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I agree OP. Critical thinking is not taught in most programs. Besides intelligence is mostly determined by environmental factors before the age of 7.
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Critical thinking isn't so much taught as it is developed. Good students develop critical thinking as part of their education. They needn't have extraordinary IQ's, either. Mostly it's the students who are there to learn and who have genuine interest in their field. Assignments offer the opportunity for critical thinking. Tests just insure that a student learned some facts. Research papers are where critical thinking comes into play. Ask professors and they'll tell you that research papers are where the talented students stand out. Many students just go through the motions to get a decent passing grade. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

To be honest people of average IQ aren't ever going to be intellectuals. They may well be highly skilled, but they will not be great thinkers. The good news is that you don't have to be very far above average to get in the game and do some good science. 115-120 IQ is probably a good lower limit of what it takes to be a good researcher capable of truly contributing.

Not all majors are the same, however. I'm speaking more of the social, life, and physical sciences. I'll not venture to make any assertions for the other fields since I'm so unaffiliated with them.
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^They take 3 years to complete here. 3 FUCKING YEARS.. not months like you suggested.
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In the US, it takes about six months to train to become an automotive technician. I'm pretty sure that cars are no more complicated in your country than in the US. Maybe your people are just really slow learners so that's why it takes three years. Then again, maybe you are just full of shit and it doesn't take three years. It only takes two years to earn an Associate's Degree in college why would someone take three years to earn a trade school degree?
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Okay what do you suggest picking then? I had in mind to try real estate agent and I just saw that I need to go to a "trading school" FOR 3 YEARS. Partly you're in school and partly you work in reallife practice situations.

I'm going to try it.. It's in berlin, sounds not bad.

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Are you serious? You really don't know what a trade school is? I guess the reason why you didn't graduate is because you were too dumb to graduate.

A trade school is a school where people go to learn job skills. For example, a person who wants to learn to become an automotive technician would go to a trade school that specializes in training automotive technicians. If a person wants to become an electrician, that person would go to a trade school that specializes in training electricians. Get it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28667343


I see, but I'm not american, not familiar with "Trade schools" and tbh I don't know of many trade schools here.. Know One which specializes in Commercial activities and such. Bullshit for me.

I wouldn't know what to pick either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28629593


Dude, get off your ass, stop bitching, quit smoking weed, and get on with your life. You could train to be a commercial driver in something like three months. Commercial drivers in the US make a very good living and you could eventually parlay that into a lucrative business of your own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28667343


Allright, thanks for the advice, gonna try it..
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You get on-the-job training to become a realtor. You also take courses as you work so that you can get your realtors license. It does not take three years and you start earning an income right away.

Whatever you pick, if you stick with it, I'm pretty sure it will take you a long way. You can become quite wealthy too in the real estate industry. Just look at Donald Trump.
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I have always been a hands on learner. I graduated high school, and went straight into the work force.

I worked construction for a few years and picked up welding. I decided I wanted to weld for a living.

It treated me right for years. I built and welded for my company for many years. I learned my trade and rose to the top.

After a while I wanted more. I worked for years proving my worth to the company. I applied for the lead job and got it.

I was able to lead the new guys and teach them what I learned over the years. I broke my back for the men I led.

Years later the manager job opened. I applied, and for some strange reason I got the job.

I knew my shit, I knew the men, and I knew the company. I started at the bottom and worked my way up. No college. Just common sense and product knowledge.

I work shoulder to shoulder with educated engineers every day. Practical and applied knowledge is better than book taught knowledge any day.

I may be biased because I came up from the bottom, but the skills and knowledge that my 40 reports have (with no college) will trump the college engineers every time.

Doing it every day for 20-30 years is better than a 4 year piece of paper. My men prove it every day!
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^They take 3 years to complete here. 3 FUCKING YEARS.. not months like you suggested.
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In the US, it takes about six months to train to become an automotive technician. I'm pretty sure that cars are no more complicated in your country than in the US. Maybe your people are just really slow learners so that's why it takes three years. Then again, maybe you are just full of shit and it doesn't take three years. It only takes two years to earn an Associate's Degree in college why would someone take three years to earn a trade school degree?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28667343


Okay what do you suggest picking then? I had in mind to try real estate agent and I just saw that I need to go to a "trading school" FOR 3 YEARS. Partly you're in school and partly you work in reallife practice situations.

I'm going to try it.. It's in berlin, sounds not bad.

...


I see, but I'm not american, not familiar with "Trade schools" and tbh I don't know of many trade schools here.. Know One which specializes in Commercial activities and such. Bullshit for me.

I wouldn't know what to pick either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28629593


Dude, get off your ass, stop bitching, quit smoking weed, and get on with your life. You could train to be a commercial driver in something like three months. Commercial drivers in the US make a very good living and you could eventually parlay that into a lucrative business of your own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28667343


Allright, thanks for the advice, gonna try it..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28629593


You get on-the-job training to become a realtor. You also take courses as you work so that you can get your realtors license. It does not take three years and you start earning an income right away.

Whatever you pick, if you stick with it, I'm pretty sure it will take you a long way. You can become quite wealthy too in the real estate industry. Just look at Donald Trump.
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That's amazing. I just saw what it's called: "Apprenticeship/instruction to get a licence as Estate Agent" I hope it doesn't take 3 years. Did you go to Tradeschool, too?
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I have always been a hands on learner. I graduated high school, and went straight into the work force.

I worked construction for a few years and picked up welding. I decided I wanted to weld for a living.

It treated me right for years. I built and welded for my company for many years. I learned my trade and rose to the top.

After a while I wanted more. I worked for years proving my worth to the company. I applied for the lead job and got it.

I was able to lead the new guys and teach them what I learned over the years. I broke my back for the men I led.

Years later the manager job opened. I applied, and for some strange reason I got the job.

I knew my shit, I knew the men, and I knew the company. I started at the bottom and worked my way up. No college. Just common sense and product knowledge.

I work shoulder to shoulder with educated engineers every day. Practical and applied knowledge is better than book taught knowledge any day.

I may be biased because I came up from the bottom, but the skills and knowledge that my 40 reports have (with no college) will trump the college engineers every time.

Doing it every day for 20-30 years is better than a 4 year piece of paper. My men prove it every day!
 Quoting: j994k


In a skilled trade nothing replaces experience. That is different from engineering, though. It isn't less, but just different. I wouldn't want a welder designing an airplane wing any more than I'd want the engineer welding it.

Most engineers aren't really engineers. For some odd reason a person can be a so called engineer with a bachelors degree. It's hack engineering, though. You won't see such people doing aerospace research or nuclear engineering. These are the guys making sure the bolts on the bridge are torqued to the right spec, or problem solving why the machine spits the chickens out in the floor when they should end up on the conveyor belt.
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I have always been a hands on learner. I graduated high school, and went straight into the work force.

I worked construction for a few years and picked up welding. I decided I wanted to weld for a living.

It treated me right for years. I built and welded for my company for many years. I learned my trade and rose to the top.

After a while I wanted more. I worked for years proving my worth to the company. I applied for the lead job and got it.

I was able to lead the new guys and teach them what I learned over the years. I broke my back for the men I led.

Years later the manager job opened. I applied, and for some strange reason I got the job.

I knew my shit, I knew the men, and I knew the company. I started at the bottom and worked my way up. No college. Just common sense and product knowledge.

I work shoulder to shoulder with educated engineers every day. Practical and applied knowledge is better than book taught knowledge any day.

I may be biased because I came up from the bottom, but the skills and knowledge that my 40 reports have (with no college) will trump the college engineers every time.

Doing it every day for 20-30 years is better than a 4 year piece of paper. My men prove it every day!
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You sound like Bruce Willis in his role in ARMAGGEDON where he played this awesome EPIC contruction oil whatever work shit. They were just normal people, mostly school drop outs and did amazing things.
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College is the period before you become a corporate slave.
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A degree is documentation that you are playing the game.
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This all the way.
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In the US, it takes about six months to train to become an automotive technician. I'm pretty sure that cars are no more complicated in your country than in the US. Maybe your people are just really slow learners so that's why it takes three years. Then again, maybe you are just full of shit and it doesn't take three years. It only takes two years to earn an Associate's Degree in college why would someone take three years to earn a trade school degree?
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Okay what do you suggest picking then? I had in mind to try real estate agent and I just saw that I need to go to a "trading school" FOR 3 YEARS. Partly you're in school and partly you work in reallife practice situations.

I'm going to try it.. It's in berlin, sounds not bad.

...


Dude, get off your ass, stop bitching, quit smoking weed, and get on with your life. You could train to be a commercial driver in something like three months. Commercial drivers in the US make a very good living and you could eventually parlay that into a lucrative business of your own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28667343


Allright, thanks for the advice, gonna try it..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28629593


You get on-the-job training to become a realtor. You also take courses as you work so that you can get your realtors license. It does not take three years and you start earning an income right away.

Whatever you pick, if you stick with it, I'm pretty sure it will take you a long way. You can become quite wealthy too in the real estate industry. Just look at Donald Trump.
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That's amazing. I just saw what it's called: "Apprenticeship/instruction to get a licence as Estate Agent" I hope it doesn't take 3 years. Did you go to Tradeschool, too?
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When I was in high school I took Automotive Technology at the local adult school. Over the course of two semesters I learned enough to become a journeyman mechanic a month after graduating high school. After three years in the trade, I opened my own auto repair garage which I ran for two years. After that, I went to college, got a Bachelor's Degree in Business Admin and then went on to get an MBA after that. Now I run my own successful business software company. It all starts with education. Without education, all you are doing is spinning your wheels. Education is there to help make you a better person.
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I have always been a hands on learner. I graduated high school, and went straight into the work force.

I worked construction for a few years and picked up welding. I decided I wanted to weld for a living.

It treated me right for years. I built and welded for my company for many years. I learned my trade and rose to the top.

After a while I wanted more. I worked for years proving my worth to the company. I applied for the lead job and got it.

I was able to lead the new guys and teach them what I learned over the years. I broke my back for the men I led.

Years later the manager job opened. I applied, and for some strange reason I got the job.

I knew my shit, I knew the men, and I knew the company. I started at the bottom and worked my way up. No college. Just common sense and product knowledge.

I work shoulder to shoulder with educated engineers every day. Practical and applied knowledge is better than book taught knowledge any day.

I may be biased because I came up from the bottom, but the skills and knowledge that my 40 reports have (with no college) will trump the college engineers every time.

Doing it every day for 20-30 years is better than a 4 year piece of paper. My men prove it every day!
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In a skilled trade nothing replaces experience. That is different from engineering, though. It isn't less, but just different. I wouldn't want a welder designing an airplane wing any more than I'd want the engineer welding it.

Most engineers aren't really engineers. For some odd reason a person can be a so called engineer with a bachelors degree. It's hack engineering, though. You won't see such people doing aerospace research or nuclear engineering. These are the guys making sure the bolts on the bridge are torqued to the right spec, or problem solving why the machine spits the chickens out in the floor when they should end up on the conveyor belt.
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You are the hack. A Bachelor's Degree in Engineering is a professional degree. Research is done by physisists not engineers. Engineers don't check torque specs, technicians do. Get a clue and fuck off.
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Okay what do you suggest picking then? I had in mind to try real estate agent and I just saw that I need to go to a "trading school" FOR 3 YEARS. Partly you're in school and partly you work in reallife practice situations.

I'm going to try it.. It's in berlin, sounds not bad.

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Allright, thanks for the advice, gonna try it..
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You get on-the-job training to become a realtor. You also take courses as you work so that you can get your realtors license. It does not take three years and you start earning an income right away.

Whatever you pick, if you stick with it, I'm pretty sure it will take you a long way. You can become quite wealthy too in the real estate industry. Just look at Donald Trump.
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That's amazing. I just saw what it's called: "Apprenticeship/instruction to get a licence as Estate Agent" I hope it doesn't take 3 years. Did you go to Tradeschool, too?
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When I was in high school I took Automotive Technology at the local adult school. Over the course of two semesters I learned enough to become a journeyman mechanic a month after graduating high school. After three years in the trade, I opened my own auto repair garage which I ran for two years. After that, I went to college, got a Bachelor's Degree in Business Admin and then went on to get an MBA after that. Now I run my own successful business software company. It all starts with education. Without education, all you are doing is spinning your wheels. Education is there to help make you a better person.
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Wow, from owner of a auto repair garage to owning a software company. May I ask if you do a good living?
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The commodification of education is the problem. Everybody has it so now it is worth nothing. This is the information age and many prestigious colleges like M.I.T. make their courses available online for free. No need to pay someone thousands of dollars to tell you what books to read. Another rampant problem is the focus on sports in college where complete retards are given scholarships. This is a waste of precious resources and also creates the imbalance where sports teams end up running the college instead of the other way around. Penn State is a perfect example. If these athletes are so talented our society already has avenues like the professional leagues and the Olympics for them to pursue. Companies want people who can give them results not people who need their hand held like the majority of college students who can't find their way out of a wet paper bag after they graduate. We need to bring back the manufacturing sector in America and create good paying jobs to people who are willing to contribute an honest days work for an honest days pay and stop encouraging pipe-dream intellectualism. This is what once made America strong, not a nation of college grads with no jobs. Too many "chiefs" and not enough indians. Most people just ain't cut out for the rigors of what a real higher education should really be. Look at all the law students out there who can't even pass their bar exam which is modeled after ancient Roman education where one had to be orally quizzed before being "graduated." Kids these days are used to regurgitating useless information on standardized multiple choice tests and cannot articulate one word to another about what they have been "educated" in. This is the real truth.
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Smarter in some areas, maybe not in others.

The doctor doesnt always know how to fix an auto, although i've seen some that can swing a hammer.
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THANK YOU.
Couldn't agree more.
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College is the period before you become a corporate slave.
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Funny , I just heard some MCworkers saying the same thing while flipping burgers. They had such a laugh. Hell no, they will never be a slave to the "man" doing things like owning Homes and having cars and Retirement and other silly things.

Hell no. They have that good life of freedom (unlike us slaves) where they never own shit and eat with foot stamps.

...Anyhow.

BTW- Since we are essentially ALL CORPORATE SLAVES (except for a few very lucky or crazy individuals who own their own business- In which case they are a Slave to the market and their consumers and Employees)wouldnt you rather be the "Uncle Tom" than the "Tyreece"? Sleeping indoors beats the hell out of the barn, does it not? And usually (in my experience) the higher up on the food chain,the better treated, less work and more money are the rewards.

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