The Fact That You Graduated College Doesn't Mean That You're Smart.

There are, just maybe not in your field. There are multiple forms of intelligence. Just because they dont pass the empiric scientific validity construct that has been trained into your mind doesn't mean anything.

It is imposible for a single human to posses or even fathom all knowledge, but you obviously know that.

I see, but I'm not american, not familiar with "Trade schools" and tbh I don't know of many trade schools here.. Know One which specializes in Commercial activities and such. Bullshit for me.

I wouldn't know what to pick either.

^They take 3 years to complete here. 3 FUCKING YEARS.. not months like you suggested.

Reading something online is not the same as learning something in school. The reason for a professor is that the professor clarifies what is being studied. Two people can read the same passage in a textbook and have two completely different understandings of what the passage means. It is the job of the professor to clarify what the passage means. So no, you can not learn the same thing online as in school.

This is a conspiracy site and it is meant to uncover conspiracies. One conspiracy is the dumbing down of America. People like the OP will attempt to make people think that being educated is worthless. In other words, he wants you to be a nice and obedient sheep. That is also the reason why TPTB want drugs decriminalized. The more drugs people use, the less ability they have to think clearly. If you take away the ability of the populous to learn and think clearly, TPTB can do anything they want with impunity.

In the US, it takes about six months to train to become an automotive technician. I'm pretty sure that cars are no more complicated in your country than in the US. Maybe your people are just really slow learners so that's why it takes three years. Then again, maybe you are just full of shit and it doesn't take three years. It only takes two years to earn an Associate's Degree in college why would someone take three years to earn a trade school degree?

No, they're just jealous.

Dude, get off your ass, stop bitching, quit smoking weed, and get on with your life. You could train to be a commercial driver in something like three months. Commercial drivers in the US make a very good living and you could eventually parlay that into a lucrative business of your own.

I agree OP. Critical thinking is not taught in most programs. Besides intelligence is mostly determined by environmental factors before the age of 7.

It must really suck to be a tard constantly spouting non-sense and constantly being corrected by intelligent people who devoted extra years to their education.

You must be a pedophile because that is the calling card of pedos to say that people are fully developed at a young age. Fucking idiot.

Critical thinking is taught at all levels. It's called math. I don't know of any educational program whether that does not require math. Grammar school, junior high, high school, college/university all require some form of math before graduating.

+1000

The fact that I cancelled school doesn't mean I'm silly.

Okay what do you suggest picking then? I had in mind to try real estate agent and I just saw that I need to go to a "trading school" FOR 3 YEARS. Partly you're in school and partly you work in reallife practice situations.

I'm going to try it.. It's in berlin, sounds not bad.



Allright, thanks for the advice, gonna try it..

Critical thinking isn't so much taught as it is developed. Good students develop critical thinking as part of their education. They needn't have extraordinary IQ's, either. Mostly it's the students who are there to learn and who have genuine interest in their field. Assignments offer the opportunity for critical thinking. Tests just insure that a student learned some facts. Research papers are where critical thinking comes into play. Ask professors and they'll tell you that research papers are where the talented students stand out. Many students just go through the motions to get a decent passing grade. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

To be honest people of average IQ aren't ever going to be intellectuals. They may well be highly skilled, but they will not be great thinkers. The good news is that you don't have to be very far above average to get in the game and do some good science. 115-120 IQ is probably a good lower limit of what it takes to be a good researcher capable of truly contributing.

Not all majors are the same, however. I'm speaking more of the social, life, and physical sciences. I'll not venture to make any assertions for the other fields since I'm so unaffiliated with them.

You get on-the-job training to become a realtor. You also take courses as you work so that you can get your realtors license. It does not take three years and you start earning an income right away.

Whatever you pick, if you stick with it, I'm pretty sure it will take you a long way. You can become quite wealthy too in the real estate industry. Just look at Donald Trump.

I have always been a hands on learner. I graduated high school, and went straight into the work force.

I worked construction for a few years and picked up welding. I decided I wanted to weld for a living.

It treated me right for years. I built and welded for my company for many years. I learned my trade and rose to the top.

After a while I wanted more. I worked for years proving my worth to the company. I applied for the lead job and got it.

I was able to lead the new guys and teach them what I learned over the years. I broke my back for the men I led.

Years later the manager job opened. I applied, and for some strange reason I got the job.

I knew my shit, I knew the men, and I knew the company. I started at the bottom and worked my way up. No college. Just common sense and product knowledge.

I work shoulder to shoulder with educated engineers every day. Practical and applied knowledge is better than book taught knowledge any day.

I may be biased because I came up from the bottom, but the skills and knowledge that my 40 reports have (with no college) will trump the college engineers every time.

Doing it every day for 20-30 years is better than a 4 year piece of paper. My men prove it every day!

(And women)

That's amazing. I just saw what it's called: "Apprenticeship/instruction to get a licence as Estate Agent" I hope it doesn't take 3 years. Did you go to Tradeschool, too?

In a skilled trade nothing replaces experience. That is different from engineering, though. It isn't less, but just different. I wouldn't want a welder designing an airplane wing any more than I'd want the engineer welding it.

Most engineers aren't really engineers. For some odd reason a person can be a so called engineer with a bachelors degree. It's hack engineering, though. You won't see such people doing aerospace research or nuclear engineering. These are the guys making sure the bolts on the bridge are torqued to the right spec, or problem solving why the machine spits the chickens out in the floor when they should end up on the conveyor belt.

You sound like Bruce Willis in his role in ARMAGGEDON where he played this awesome EPIC contruction oil whatever work shit. They were just normal people, mostly school drop outs and did amazing things.

College is the period before you become a corporate slave.

This all the way.

When I was in high school I took Automotive Technology at the local adult school. Over the course of two semesters I learned enough to become a journeyman mechanic a month after graduating high school. After three years in the trade, I opened my own auto repair garage which I ran for two years. After that, I went to college, got a Bachelor's Degree in Business Admin and then went on to get an MBA after that. Now I run my own successful business software company. It all starts with education. Without education, all you are doing is spinning your wheels. Education is there to help make you a better person.

You are the hack. A Bachelor's Degree in Engineering is a professional degree. Research is done by physisists not engineers. Engineers don't check torque specs, technicians do. Get a clue and fuck off.

Wow, from owner of a auto repair garage to owning a software company. May I ask if you do a good living?

The commodification of education is the problem. Everybody has it so now it is worth nothing. This is the information age and many prestigious colleges like M.I.T. make their courses available online for free. No need to pay someone thousands of dollars to tell you what books to read. Another rampant problem is the focus on sports in college where complete retards are given scholarships. This is a waste of precious resources and also creates the imbalance where sports teams end up running the college instead of the other way around. Penn State is a perfect example. If these athletes are so talented our society already has avenues like the professional leagues and the Olympics for them to pursue. Companies want people who can give them results not people who need their hand held like the majority of college students who can't find their way out of a wet paper bag after they graduate. We need to bring back the manufacturing sector in America and create good paying jobs to people who are willing to contribute an honest days work for an honest days pay and stop encouraging pipe-dream intellectualism. This is what once made America strong, not a nation of college grads with no jobs. Too many "chiefs" and not enough indians. Most people just ain't cut out for the rigors of what a real higher education should really be. Look at all the law students out there who can't even pass their bar exam which is modeled after ancient Roman education where one had to be orally quizzed before being "graduated." Kids these days are used to regurgitating useless information on standardized multiple choice tests and cannot articulate one word to another about what they have been "educated" in. This is the real truth.

Smarter in some areas, maybe not in others.

The doctor doesnt always know how to fix an auto, although i've seen some that can swing a hammer.

THANK YOU.
Couldn't agree more.

Funny , I just heard some MCworkers saying the same thing while flipping burgers. They had such a laugh. Hell no, they will never be a slave to the "man" doing things like owning Homes and having cars and Retirement and other silly things.

Hell no. They have that good life of freedom (unlike us slaves) where they never own shit and eat with foot stamps.

...Anyhow.

BTW- Since we are essentially ALL CORPORATE SLAVES (except for a few very lucky or crazy individuals who own their own business- In which case they are a Slave to the market and their consumers and Employees)wouldnt you rather be the "Uncle Tom" than the "Tyreece"? Sleeping indoors beats the hell out of the barn, does it not? And usually (in my experience) the higher up on the food chain,the better treated, less work and more money are the rewards.