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Electricity... made from Dirt!!

 
onlyonenina
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Check out this article.. sweet!!

Is it not time for one of these ideas to come true... oh the money we would save...

Remember if you dont have dreams you have nothing..Yes I will continue to dream...


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here s a good one

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Yes you actually CAN get free electricity from dirt!

If you hook about fifteen thousand of them together you'd have almost enough to power a small light bulb. OK, maybe twenty thousand... I know it's a lot! Just not enough amps, forget about voltage... amps is where the power is at.
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Your body is electromagnetic to. Think about what happens when you walk bear foot on sand or dirt and You create friction on solar charged crystals/ minerals in the dirt.
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Yes you actually CAN get free electricity from dirt!

If you hook about fifteen thousand of them together you'd have almost enough to power a small light bulb. OK, maybe twenty thousand... I know it's a lot! Just not enough amps, forget about voltage... amps is where the power is at.
 Quoting: SuperManny


Power is A*V
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Thank you SeaPunk... was not aware of the info out there..

Checkinggrinning out the vids,
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So I guess my question would be, how do we increase electrical pressure to get more volts?

Any Electricians out there?
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I'll weigh in. I'm the guy doing the Last Minute Tips for Parents When the SHTF topic, and I've been researching this concept for preparedness and because the idea is interesting.

Earth batteries were used by the telegraph office a long time ago. It definitely can power something very small. The issue is any length of wire will add resistance to the amount of electricty generates, and of course the amount is minscule.

There's been a push to develop a battery to use in 3rd world nations from things like available scrap metals like alluminum cans, charcoal, wood ash and water to create the lye for an electrolyte, urine, etc.

As far as I can tell, the best metals are pure nickel and iron, the problem is sourcing it. That kind of battery doesn't degrade and there are many that are over 20 years old and older and still operating.

A lot of people are working on very low voltage batteries to power up LEDs since they use so little curent. If we could figure it out, then a good portion of the world could have some form of lighting after sundown and not have to rely upon candles.

If you know anything about dynamos, then you know that it creates a charge from a tiny generator, and then the charge is stored in a rechargeable battery OR the charge is stored in an ultracapacitor. The issue with the former is creatin a rechargeable battery that can be made with local materials that doesn't wear out quickly. The latter is a newer technology of sandwiching metal and a dielectric layer, and it stored the dc voltage generated by the generator.

This ultracapacitor is probably a better technology and I urge you to check that out.

A lot of people have been working on urine batteries. Basically they're looking at the best metals that react with urine to generate electron flow. You want some common metal or course, otherwise it's all about companies making special alloys.

In addition, there's people looking at John Hutchenson's crystal cell batteries. The ideal crystal cell uses no water, but works on an unknown process with salts and metals and often embedded in a rock. Since there's no water, there's no corrosion. There's lots of experimenters trying to see if there's some humidity at work and if in time corrosion is at play, and if so, then it's simply an unusual electrolytic battery.

The main point qualities that would make a useful battery would be:
1. Made from common materials
2. Electrolyte is used, may be found locally
3. Durability
4. Produces a useful electricity, not merely lighting one tiny LED.

Several are working on foot pump dynamos with ultracapacitors. Of course, the sticky widget is importing an LED.

Naturally for some time we've had solar cells that can power these, but they only work on sunny days when it can trickle charge up a rechargeable battery for some time. An ideal inexpensive light would probably use both a dynamo and a solar cell. The light won't last long or produce a lot of lumes without making it too expensive for most poor people.
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GLP: solving the world's problems one impractical method at a time.
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GLP: solving the world's problems one impractical method at a time.
 Quoting: Quagmire


lmao applause cheers
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GLP: solving the world's problems one impractical method at a time.
 Quoting: Quagmire


lmao applause cheers
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

Not precisely Burt Gummer and Quagmire, but I agree that there's a lot of oddball ideas to try to solve this issue.
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Here's one of the world's most reputable science magazines, Scientific American that's illustrating that 1/4 of the world has no electricity. It's simply not an option for them to just run miles and miles of cable and create more electric plants as they don't have the money to purchase coal.
[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

In many of these nations, while they have some trees and might use wood-gas generators (the charcoal emits a fume that is combustible and hence can power a generator), this would chop down their forests and harm the soil in the end by creating massive erosion. Regardless, they could hope for luxuries like light after 6 pm unless people attempt to figure out methods of creating electricity cheaply.

What's your solution?

Truthfully, any science that creates a useful battery ends up helping the entire world. Rechargeables use heavy metals, and hence it gets into the groundwater (lead, cadmium, mercury, etc.) Nickel is a heavy metal, but it's not used up in the process of a nickel/iron battery using an electrolyte. Therefore the creation of a better battery is eminently useful since it lessens the waste stream, doesn't poison well water or back to rivers, is cheaper in the long run, and probably facilitates wind and solar power.

WHat part of this is oddball?
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Ultra capacitors have a long way to go still.. They have leakage, and are limited by way of Vmax, unless you put them in series. Putting them in series creates a few problems; they are not very tolerant to overcharging, and when charging and discharging them (in series) those processes need to be very accurately balanced (easier said than done) under variable loads and states of charge. We won't be able to use them for practical purposes until we can get the Vmax up significantly without huge expense.

I'm working on a solution to this, but still need investors..
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Great start of a thread.

Hope it generates some interest and ideas.

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Ask a child how to power things with junk or things we wouldn't think of. LOL.

There's are potato clocks (they last a long, long, time), lemon clocks, lemon light, lemon calculator power, etc.

Just google " fruits and vegetables to power lightbulb."

Or, check out how simple a couple are:

[link to www.kidzworld.com]

[link to www.ehow.com]
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Wow, cool OP. Yes, it is electric all over!

Brings new meaning though to:

"Dirt cheap"!
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Dirt is a bunch of decomposing organic matter with ground up rock and small crystals.
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Think about this:

Gaining power from lightning and find a way to store it.

If you find out, please let me know and we'll be rich :)
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dirt is galvanic + crystal resonance?


non galvanic is what ya need
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bsflag

This is another pseudo-scientific pipe dream sold to the media to generate press to win multi-million dollar guberment research grants to keep a bunch of unproductive scientists and engineers employed and to pad the coffers of companies that can't and shouldn't be attempting to prooduce anything of value.

Yes, you can build a battery out of many dissimilar materials that generate a voltage and current at UNUSUABLE LEVELS. In fact, each one of you reading this have experienced the wonder of static electricity on cold, dry days, or simply by rubbing a balloon on your hair. The voltages can reach into the tens of thousands of volts. But try to light even an LED with that charge, and you'll be sorely disappointing. Just because you have voltage and or current doesn't mean you can power a useful load with it (e.g. light bulb).

The problem with this so-called breakthrough and most of the "green" energy solutions is that they're not practical -- either in terms of usability, capacity, or economy. I'm sorry, but until something revolutionary comes along with a power generation capability that surpasses nuclear, you're chasing a pipe dream.

Cold fusion, you're our only hope. NOT! lol
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Think about this:

Gaining power from lightning and find a way to store it.

If you find out, please let me know and we'll be rich :)
 Quoting: Electrodude 11438554


I've thought about this, and have pseudo designs. It's been done before on a small scale. I.e. the wine bottle lighting experiments..
One strike could power a building for a year with the right transfer and storage capability.
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Tesla even went so far as to break down the vertical dielectric of the atmosphere at a resonant frequency and pulled the energy from the electrosphere...
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Tesla even went so far as to break down the vertical dielectric of the atmosphere at a resonant frequency and pulled the energy from the electrosphere...
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44:50 mins [link to youtu.be]

10 - 20 kilovolts
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The key concept people should take home from this is that the earth is a spinning conductor!
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Just don't pee into your urine battery to top it up......
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Tesla even went so far as to break down the vertical dielectric of the atmosphere at a resonant frequency and pulled the energy from the electrosphere...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28692290




44:50 mins [link to youtu.be]

10 - 20 kilovolts
 Quoting: BuggedOut


The electrosphere is approximately 300Kv relative to ground, and stores a lot more charge, and doesn't include water. Atmospheric water vapor does influence the dielectric though. And static electricity is a complimentary part of the equation.
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Money made from Rothschild turds
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Everything on this Planet come's from dirt.. I once was hit on the head with a rock.. Hurt like hell.. Har dirt.. But that sweet peach cobbler was all dirt too.

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