If Jesus is God why did he say man must live by Jehovah's word?

Because that was added to the New World Translation to support Jehovah's Witness' doctrine. No where does it say Jehovah in the original Greek text. It isn't anywhere in the New Testament, but Jehovah's Witnesses added to to support their beliefs.

NewsFlash! Jesus isn't god. He's your brother. He was never meant to be deified and he damn sure wouldn't approve. He wasn't a Christian either, btw.

Jesus IS God.

Colossians 2:9: For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,

To deny this is to prove that you do not know Him.

No need for that. Fact is bible translators deleted Jehovah's name from the original Hebrew scrolls 7,000 times. Why do you think you don't know God's name?

I used to be a JW and swallow all the lies you are currently dishing out.

For over 30 years in fact.

Then one day something happenned.

It was something called TRUTH.

So I had a good hard and long look into these original Greek and hebrew and into the backgrounds of the actual translators who created the NWTOTHS.

DID you know that most of them were MEDIUMS and into calling up the dead and seances?

NO..of course you wouldnt.

DID you know that RUSSEL was a Mason 33rd degree?

OF COURSE you wouldnt.

But enough..when the time comes you will see HOW MUCH you have been lied to.

Its a real shock too..especially to the PRIDE.

6For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9.6

Do you really need anything more than that?

why didn't Jesus just make the devil disappear? Or why didn't he just make himself disappear so the devil couldn't see him?

Who killed Goliath in your Bible? Check to find out in 2 Samuel 21:19. Do you think if God truly blessed the NWT, He would allow that error to be in there? The AKJV is God's preserved Word...you can bet your life on it :)

It was really funny when I showed some JW's a whole stack of verses from their OWN twisted bible that clearly referred to Jesus as God.

They either run away like the good obedient robots they are programmed to be...or they hang around and LEARN..and throw their false faith away.

I used to be a JW so I know exactly how to handle them and what they are taught and how they think.

For every five pairs of JW's who come to my door...three always leave the JW's on the spot.

You see..they CANT ARGUE with their OWN BIBLE now can they?

Good for you bro, I have never had one come to my door, or LDS for that matter. I guess all those prayers for God's protection pays off :)

Dear, kind, Ms. DGN: RUN don't walk to the nearest BIBLE bookstore and buy the King James Version of the Bible to get the truth!

Jesus never once said in the Bible the NAME of his father. He called him ABBA, FATHER!

And at the end of his life Jesus does finally admit he IS God.

Last Edited by Who is Blue Fairy on 11/29/2012 02:01 AM

Go to a library or used book store, find an old KJV, look up Ps83:18.

The Greek text (the Received Text compilation from 1560) is the most accurate; too many mistake in the English. Check it out for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to guide you.

Now how on earth does anybody who wasn't there to hear jesus speak know EXACTLY what He said?

Your are putting to much faith into one man's translation of a translation of a translation of a translation.

Don't get too caught up in what the bible says. It's been perverted by man and will mislead you to be just the opposite of what Jesus taught which was to LOVE ... not hate.

which version of the bible are YOU using for this, because since Esu Immanuel is FROM Jehovah, the planet, he would never have said such a thing. this is deliberate manipulation. Jehovah is a planet as I have said often to you before. The creator of the creation in fact is not a "person" with a name and creator would never demand to be called by any name. I am so tired of witnesses showing up at my door thinking they are special because they have the correct name of the Lord. Do you mean some big boss or Creator by that word Jehovah?

the big bosses are the hierarchy, the angelic sons of god.

And he didn't say MOUTH either, he taught meditation and the listening to the mental communication from CREATOR. get real DGN you are part of the problem.

the PEOPLE from the planet Jehovah have had a role and continue to have a role in assisting the spiritual heirarchy with earth. They helped moses, gave 20 commandments, fed Moses band of hebrews from craft, and fried sodom and Gomorrah and in fact numerous other cities on this world that were filled with evil. A planet is not the Creator of the whole creation. Lets get out of being dumb here.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/29/2012 11:26 AM

Jesus is like God, but they are two different beings, so to speak. After all, we read, which is fitting for us here on this forum:

[Jesus speaking here in this verse]

Mark 13:

32 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33 Be on guard! Be alert[e]! You do not know when that time will come.

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
KJV Psalms 83:18


John 18:36

Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Got to love God

If teaching is hating why did Jesus say this?
"18 And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19

God forgives sin = Jesus forgives sin

God judges all men = Jesus judges all men

God determines who's name is written in the book of life = Jesus determines who's name is written in the book of life.

God receives worship = Jesus receives worship

I and my Father are one = Before Abraham was, I AM = God

he didn't say that

he said 'it is written'

So it must not be true?

I am not with the JWs, but I wonder how it is that you would think that he was a member of the Mason's organization at all. I have been studying Russell's works for more than fifty years; I can definitely say beyond any shadow of a doubt that Russell was not a Mason. No one has presented any real evidence that he was; we have tens of thousands of pages of Russell's lifetime works that overwhelminly testify that Russell never was a Mason at all.

Nor was Russell involved in any kind of spiritism or heathen occultism.

Russell and the Freemasons:
[link to ctr.reslight.net]

Russell and Occultism:
[link to ctr.reslight.net]

Russell and Spiritism:
[link to ctr.reslight.net]

Psalm 107:8 American Standard Version
Oh that men would praise Jehovah for his lovingkindness, And for his wonderful works to the children of men!

Ephesians 1:3 King James Version
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Last Edited by BibleLight on 11/30/2012 03:41 PM

Maybe Jesus was a mason..... oh my mistake that's right he has a carpenter, ...bricks wood, I get them all mixed up.

No contradiction there dude...1 Sam 17:23 and 1 Sam 21:19 are not impossible to explain. One such reason is that it is entirely possible that "Goliath" was a title or popular reference given to these "giant" individuals. Therefore there may have been 2 or more Goliath's.

DGN you shouldn't even be on this site as a JW so why should we listen to your absolute crap.

Jesus is the Word He is the living Word.

You do not understand because you do no realize he was God in flesh LIVING AS A MAN to be the our Savior. If God was living as God in a man's body how could we possibly think we could live as He did....

HOWEVER, if God in the flesh put aside his divine powers and relied on faith in the Father God THEN we have an example we can follow. Because the man Yeshua did what he saw the Father do......

Until you believe that He (Yeshua) IS I AM you will die in your sins.

"And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Mt28:19