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Civil Disobedience, Our government (civil servants) have become disobedient to all the laws of the land, perhaps it is our turn?

 
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Our government has legally defaulted on their obligations to uphold the law, therefore their laws if they don't apply to some, apply to no one.

They have forfeited their right to lead or dictate anything.
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Are you suggesting we shouldn\'t pay taxes?
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NO....how about just follow the law and you'll pay fewer taxes.....there is no law to tax your personal labor!! BUT MANY BELIEVE IT AND FALL PREY......
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5 stars OP for a very thought provoking thread. peace
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5 stars OP for a very thought provoking thread. peace
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Let's hope that is all it provokes....at least until Obama and his Marxist government is out of office.
They are just looking for an excuse to suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law.

Don't give it to them.


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This one:

"We watched as you exempted yourself from the health care law."

Really gets to me.
Who is John Galt?
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No, we have NOT done enough.
I fear now its too late.

We are trying to "save face" and make it look to other countries like we have done A LOT.WE HAVE NOT DONE CRAP, INCLUDING ME.
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

flatearth
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Our government has legally defaulted on their obligations to uphold the law, therefore their laws if they don't apply to some, apply to no one.

They have forfeited their right to lead or dictate anything.
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The social contract is now null and void.
Who is John Galt?

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Incredible "I will not comply" monologue from Glenn Beck last spring. Skip to the 18 minute mark if you are crunched for time.
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sheeplebahGreat theatre by "Z" puppet. Does "Order Out of Chaos" ring a bell? Better put, "Slavery Out of Chaos and Distraction."

"Z" Trojan Horse and "Z" Trojan Horse Media Soldiers landed, invaded America a long time ago.

Americans will do what they're best at, play their part in "Z" theatre; the box is a comfortable place for us. Oh! and of course warm the pews.

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5 stars OP for a very thought provoking thread. peace
 Quoting: MultiStrada


Let's hope that is all it provokes....at least until Obama and his Marxist government is out of office.
They are just looking for an excuse to suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law.

Don't give it to them.


:clues:
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What constitution fool?

I just pointed out to you that they have already shredded the constitution, and you think we will make it another 4 years to vote it back again in rigged elections?

WOW!
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5 stars OP for a very thought provoking thread. peace
 Quoting: MultiStrada


Let's hope that is all it provokes....at least until Obama and his Marxist government is out of office.
They are just looking for an excuse to suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law.

Don't give it to them.


clues
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What constitution fool?

I just pointed out to you that they have already shredded the constitution, and you think we will make it another 4 years to vote it back again in rigged elections?

WOW!
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1) The Constitution is not "shredded". thwak
(beat to hell yes....but not shredded or irreparable)

2) Yes we will make it another 4 years and people will be SOOOOO disillusioned with what Obama and Socialists have done to the USA and it's economy there is a SOLID chance of cleaning house.

3) Yes....this last election was certainly rigged.....but they won't be able to stop the anti-Socialist tsunami in 2016...even with voter fraud.

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5 stars OP for a very thought provoking thread. peace
 Quoting: MultiStrada


Let's hope that is all it provokes....at least until Obama and his Marxist government is out of office.
They are just looking for an excuse to suspend the Constitution and declare Martial Law.

Don't give it to them.


:clues:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


What constitution fool?

I just pointed out to you that they have already shredded the constitution, and you think we will make it another 4 years to vote it back again in rigged elections?

WOW!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12519180


1) The Constitution is not "shredded". thwak
(beat to hell yes....but not shredded or irreparable)

2) Yes we will make it another 4 years and people will be SOOOOO disillusioned with what Obama and Socialists have done to the USA and it's economy there is a SOLID chance of cleaning house.

3) Yes....this last election was certainly rigged.....but they won't be able to stop the anti-Socialist tsunami in 2016...even with voter fraud.

:rushbam:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


The anti-socialist tsunami was supposed to happen this election. Dream on.

My grandfather voted his entire life, My dad his entire life, and yes, unfortunately I foolishly believed voting would somehow solve the problem in my lifetime.

Each generation is more enslaved than the previous.

You will never vote your freedoms back at this point. Your Constitutional rights will not be restored with a Republican party. Bush created much of the illegal police state we already have right now, and the Republican party all seemed fine with what took place.

If Romney had won, it wouldn't have saved your butt. What part of rigged, and planned do you not understand? What part of they control both parties do you not comprehend? THe exact same policies Bush had for all the large corporations and war, Obama had. Bush created Socialist programs like the prescription drug shit that he passed, but Bush did it, so you were OK with it.

You will not ever vote it back. Ever, not in four years, not in a million years.

What part of the corrupt media who is owned is going to even show a constitution backing candidate?
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Our government has legally defaulted on their obligations to uphold the law, therefore their laws if they don't apply to some, apply to no one.

They have forfeited their right to lead or dictate anything.
 Quoting: GodFrequency


THIS
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Satyagraha - The policy of nonviolent resistance developed by Mahatma Gandhi as a means of pressing for political reform in South Africa and India.

Satyagraha is a weapon of the strong; it admits of no violence under any circumstance whatsoever; and it ever insists upon truth.
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GREAT POST OP!!

It is my legal opinion that since the govt. does not follow the constitution, i.e. they believe the Constitution does not apply to them, they have therefore waived their legal authority too, since that is derived from that constitution.


The Army, or anybody else, does not have to follow any govt. orders, rules or regulations, as they are null and void.

So you are right.
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Dear GOvernment, if you feel you have the power to shred the
1st amendment
2nd amendment
3rd amendment &
the 4th amendments
of the constitution

We decided to shred the 16th!

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SHRED THE 16th!!!!!!!
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GREAT POST OP!!

It is my legal opinion that since the govt. does not follow the constitution, i.e. they believe the Constitution does not apply to them, they have therefore waived their legal authority too, since that is derived from that constitution.


The Army, or anybody else, does not have to follow any govt. orders, rules or regulations, as they are null and void.

So you are right.
 Quoting: Kevin 13459791


Wow! what are the repercussions of that.

Military and police have all taken oaths to defend the constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic, and now it is clear that the constitution has been violated, and our government has no more constitutional legitimacy to rule.

I think a military coup could be very dangerous indeed but how much more dangerous than what is going on right now?

"The Army, or anybody else, does not have to follow any govt. orders, rules or regulations, as they are null and void."
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Here's the thing about these civil disobiefence threads ... Most of the ones that would write it are far to pussy to do it... How's this if you've never protested marched or faught for yours .. Politely take you punk
Ass. Back in the house and shut the fuck up
Simply put the ones that should be revolting and walking out and causing civil disobedience are the ones that would seem to responsible to do that, but those in management ownership etc need to strike by shutting businesses and closing doors. It's them that have to continue to pay for the slackers of society ... Think of it those that work how much of your day is "busy" work ? Exactly and the owners are still paying .. So they should strike and show the employee who's really incharge ... If you're not a business owner management or in position of power shut it... Meaning if you are an employee a laborer a worker etc and upset about your pay ... Shut the fuck up you ungrateful piece of shit.
So are you of influence and able or a whining lil bitch!
resist
Punk ass talkers seldom are the ones wAlking ... Ya get it
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Yeah, where ARE the people that will take a stand? Take me for instance...I have two dependants...if anything happens to me, they are finished. I could go protest somewhere, but I'm in New York State, and try to gather any anti-Obama protesters - virtually impossible, it's been tried. Say I protest by myself. Who the hell cares? Will the news media cover it? Nope. They didn't cover it when there were 30 protesters. Besides, the media here is all ultra-Progressives. We have a medium sized city and ONE super-liberal newspaper that refuses to print ANY of my letters.

I've got two Senators, Gillibrand and Chuck U Schumer that don't give rat's ass what any of their constituents thinks.

So..back to protesting..The most likely thing that would happen is I would get injured or worse. Probably jumped by one of the many black gangs that rules the city. Personally, am I willing to do something where I could get injured or arrested for civil disobedience? I might take that chance, if I only had to think about me. But I can't do that, I've got others to consider.

I thought, when the country got this bad, people would come out of the woodwork to protect people like me. They haven't.
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Protesting is pointless.
Over 1 million Tea Party members marched on DC in 2010.
See how much good that did.

The only peaceful option left is a tax boycott.

Shrug.
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Here's the thing about these civil disobiefence threads ... Most of the ones that would write it are far to pussy to do it... How's this if you've never protested marched or faught for yours .. Politely take you punk
Ass. Back in the house and shut the fuck up
Simply put the ones that should be revolting and walking out and causing civil disobedience are the ones that would seem to responsible to do that, but those in management ownership etc need to strike by shutting businesses and closing doors. It's them that have to continue to pay for the slackers of society ... Think of it those that work how much of your day is "busy" work ? Exactly and the owners are still paying .. So they should strike and show the employee who's really incharge ... If you're not a business owner management or in position of power shut it... Meaning if you are an employee a laborer a worker etc and upset about your pay ... Shut the fuck up you ungrateful piece of shit.
So are you of influence and able or a whining lil bitch!
resist
Punk ass talkers seldom are the ones wAlking ... Ya get it
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Yeah, where ARE the people that will take a stand? Take me for instance...I have two dependants...if anything happens to me, they are finished. I could go protest somewhere, but I'm in New York State, and try to gather any anti-Obama protesters - virtually impossible, it's been tried. Say I protest by myself. Who the hell cares? Will the news media cover it? Nope. They didn't cover it when there were 30 protesters. Besides, the media here is all ultra-Progressives. We have a medium sized city and ONE super-liberal newspaper that refuses to print ANY of my letters.

I've got two Senators, Gillibrand and Chuck U Schumer that don't give rat's ass what any of their constituents thinks.

So..back to protesting..The most likely thing that would happen is I would get injured or worse. Probably jumped by one of the many black gangs that rules the city. Personally, am I willing to do something where I could get injured or arrested for civil disobedience? I might take that chance, if I only had to think about me. But I can't do that, I've got others to consider.

I thought, when the country got this bad, people would come out of the woodwork to protect people like me. They haven't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29186860


Protesting is pointless.
Over 1 million Tea Party members marched on DC in 2010.
See how much good that did.

The only peaceful option left is a tax boycott.

Shrug.
 Quoting: Carshy McCarsh


Yes, protesting has been proven to be non effective. It's been done already with little to no results.
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Great work, Great Thoughts...

Hopefully great actions.

SOLIDARITY For ALL when the SHTF
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Great work, Great Thoughts...

Hopefully great actions.

SOLIDARITY For ALL when the SHTF
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I agree with the solidarity part, if we don't stop letting them devide us among race, religion, gender, age, or places on a map and all come together for freedom, we're done.

Just my humble opinion.
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The five criteria of slavery

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This is what they want. Eventually the are going to get the reaction they are looking for due to their continual prodding and provoking, and then it'll be martial law time.
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This is what they want. Eventually the are going to get the reaction they are looking for due to their continual prodding and provoking, and then it'll be martial law time.
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THen stop playing the game.

you have choices.

1. do nothing, and watch as the country is destroyed and they take everything and kill us all..

2. do something, fight back, at which time like you said they declare martial law. There is a chance however that they lose all power and control at this point. The first choice offers no hope, because you never took a chance, never did anything, and they control the voting, the media, the money, the banks, the governments, the police, the military and everything else. The only way the police and the military are ever going to question as to weather they want to go along or not, is if you stand up and give them the opportunity to make that decision. Otherwise, they will pick who they believe to be the winners, and rightfully so they will look down on all the pansy ass peons and decide that they would rather guard the prisoners than become dead or one of them, because they are week, have no backbone, and will never fight back.

Other than those 2 choices, and I think the one that the intellectuals here at GLP are clinging to is the idea that some catastrophic event will set you free.
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"AMERIKA" was the name of a made-for-TV mini-series which aired on ABC in 1987... 25 years ago.

It was the Illuminati's in-joke. It presents the true blueprint for today, and just a few years from now.

Massive poverty.

Destroyed industry.

Condemned infrastructure.

Phony elections.

Foreign Takeover

-- Now funny, isn't it, that we have the Department of "Homeland" Security?

In this 1987 flick, "Homeland" is used everywhere.

But the term "homeland" was never used by Americans about America until the Obama reign.

Why? Because, obviously, "Fatherland" in Nazi Germany, and "Homeland" today, are identical.

Link to mini-series, Part I:

[link to www.youtube.com]

GUESS WHO TODAY'S PUPPET REALLY WORKS FOR...


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Great thread

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If anyone has a solution, I'm all ears, but it looks like the options are running out.

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