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How Power is Obtained, The Nobody, the Possession, and the Indwelt Host..

 
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what does the SM stand for?
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My guess would be 'Mercy' and 'Severity'... related to Jachin and Boaz.

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heres a good question he may have already answered....whats the big deal about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

why get him to taste it, and then all the work to...untaste it?

lol, such a strange thing, dont you think?
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I don't agree to the way this sounds, 'possession' and 'indwelt host', hmm
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I don't think it will be like a possession, that you think of, horror movies tend to exagerate :)

maybe if you think of it as that voice within, the inner compas that we all have, perhaps the host just controls that and not everything else in the body.
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Perhaps more of an inflow of information/knowledge, rather than the inflow of a personality.
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That´s how it works.
You, as a human have to take care of your jar, so that spirit can find its way (in)to you.
What we call inspiration is nothing else; It´s the spirit that comes alive through us.
You can call this posession, but this has a bad reputation, as we then only think of the negative examples of this.

I don't agree to the way this sounds, 'possession' and 'indwelt host', hmm
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Born of Spirit,Born again with the Spirit of Christ, as in what some call The Mystical Marriage.
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yes, to cleanse your jar on the inside and out. The temple must be purified and tried fully holding out for a long period of time before the indwelling of the Holy Spirit Wisdom and Christ to indwell us.
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You guys get me wrong, I explained it on the other post. I'm completely ok with being 'possessed' by my own above tounge

I don't agree to the way this sounds, 'possession' and 'indwelt host', hmm
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Probably because when you feel threatened you tend to beat up ur bab/bi-ble.

Don't worry though you are amongst friends
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I don't agree to the way this sounds, 'possession' and 'indwelt host', hmm
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I don't think it will be like a possession, that you think of, horror movies tend to exagerate :)

maybe if you think of it as that voice within, the inner compas that we all have, perhaps the host just controls that and not everything else in the body.
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An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A battle is raging inside of me," he said to the boy.

"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves.

One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued,

"The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed.
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Hey, I did a slide with that Hanged Man Tarot...

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An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A battle is raging inside of me," he said to the boy.

"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves.

One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued,

"The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed.
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Haha ! Good one, spot on !

This is the meaning of the Lords Evening meal in Christianity..

Im still a few pages back btw.. Still want to reply to the post about the midheaven..
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Can we get an ETA? Like when is this going down?
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Can we get an ETA? Like when is this going down?
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no..
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Can we get an ETA? Like when is this going down?
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It depends on the Ascendant, the Midheaven or Medium Coeli (M.C.), the Descendant, and the Imum Coeli ( I.C.). of the host chart
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Can we get an ETA? Like when is this going down?
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The moshiach(Adam) doesn't come forth til he has gone through the furnace of affliction and drank from the cup his father(Jesus) drank....the cup for the moshiach is a 42 month destruction of the united states and a concentration camp prior to the 7 year tribulation. He is thrown in a well just as Joseph was before the 7 year famine of food, but this 7 year famine will be of the Word of God. After that he is the man-child that is caught up in revelation, comes back down and leads the people during the 7 year trib.
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hakol kosmos ahav
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You guys get me wrong, I explained it on the other post. I'm completely ok with being 'possessed' by my own above tounge
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ah I see, it's the theory itself, well there's plenty of nobody theories out there, who can tell what is right and wrong.
though I have to say that I see similarities in the theory of being someone "important" being re-incarnated at birth and this spirit incarnating withing you.

It's just a matter of detail and timing of the spirit it seems ;)
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Hi Apollo,

I would like to hear a short summary of the Medium Coeli from you, if you don´t mind.
Mine is Taurus and I haven´t figured out yet, how this would come to play out in terms of social appointments. I know you´re very keen in astrology. Me too, but not so much in technical terms, rather in abstract and intuitive figuring.

What I find interesting, the hanged man seems to represent the Algiz Rune turned around.
Actually, that which we hold for the peace sign, is actually a sign of death, but then when we do the peace sign with the fingers, we do it the right way round.

The two man with the Arieshorns remind me significantly of one dream I had recently.
I was flying through the universe with a spaceship, a seemingly eternal journey.
As I arrived at the end of it, I found two gods there, like they were castaways and I saw that one had the intention to kill the other and I felt like I wanted to warn the other and at the same time thinking „great, I came all the way, to see the gods want to kill each other“.
Anyway, I thought that dream had some deeper meaning.

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Hi Artaius !

Ill work on this reply next cause I have something that will demonstrate the meaning of the Medium Coeli...

brb...

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Hi ! a Midheaven Taurus, nice !


Qoute..The midheaven (MC) is a point of definition in the ecliptic coordinate system. It aims to find the part of the ecliptic that corresponds to the highest point in a celestial object's apparent daily traverse of the visible sky, midway between its ascension on the eastern horizon and descension on the western horizon.

so basically its the halfway point where the AS ABOVE, SO BELOW MERGES..

Here is a video that was about the MC..Med Coeli.

About it relating to the two Gods, it can mean one merges with the other, One must step into the trine and the other the cube anniliating all former dross and ego...

Notice hes wearing his Lattice work glasses, This is about the Anima and Animus merger...

Your upside down Algiz Rune I would assume is the higher self descending..

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i think the host has always been with him, but hidden from his awareness until timing and experience fulfills their expression within so that the host can be expressed appropriately.
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or, what if the man is constantly misunderstood, because no one will approach him?
they might think they know him when actually they dont, and not knowing him very well causes them to dislike him, if their personal beliefs are clouding judgement.

basically, i think he is on his own and might have no choice except to go on alone.
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Misunderstood by those he cared about most as he came into himself.. hence the fool becoming the hermit.. those watching him since he was born had to step back and watch as he came to for his sake. The only way to gain true understanding is to figure things out on your own. They remained close. Just watching from a little farther back in the stands.

Basically what apollo is trying to say is.. remember that kid in the camo pants? Well, he's about to let go of his moms titty and if you are lucky he will let you latch on to his...

And we're off to see the wizard.......




Glad you are back to these threads apollo!!
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Tha Wizard of OZ???


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the white horse and the rider go hand in hand, share it all as one.
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I think, I know what you mean.
I didn´t understand that to the full as well, but now I have a better picture of this.
It´s really quite simple.
We´re still the ones who decide, which energy (spirits) we want to work with. But most people are unconscious of taking care of your mental health. They just take everything in passively, like most are used to, when they´re watching TV. This society is trained that way, that´s why subliminals even work. We are not aware of the influences, that we´re faced with everyday and when we don´t take care and give in to negative emotions, when we become greedy or selfish and don´t see the others around us anymore, that´s when we´re attracting the negative spirits.
If they just come to us or if we really bring them into live doesn´t matter. We´re then working with them hand in hand. May it be, that we didn´t do this on purpose, but it´s like that. Most people don´t deliberate themselves to this point. Nobody teached it to them. Lifestyle these days teaches you "It´s ok, if you only care for yourself".
But when you´re aware, you know you want to do else. You want to chose, which "force" you use. And this is taking responsibility. It´s not that any spirit can indwell into you, if you are aware and if you don´t want that. It is an agreement. It´s all about will in fact, the Aries-principle, first archetype, the "I want" or the "No, I don´t want to!". The defiant child, who says "No! Leave me alone!" That is the power of Aries. And you, who are aware, you are one who can chose. Most people don´t have power over their own will. That´s why they can be mislead so easily.

Yes I'm aware, but when reading I had the impression that the so called 'Ibbur' is waiting for someone who will be ready to 'channel' it. Which would mean that we, as human jars, can be 'filled' by any spirit.
I had this impression and I've had it before in other posts by Apollo. Still I gotta say I don't agree with it, I'm sorry if I'm getting it wrong.
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Twinkle, Twinkle Little Ko-Chav..=)
The Mazzoroth will lead his way..
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the white horse and the rider go hand in hand, share it all as one.
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He will wage this spiritual battle..

This New Testament Revelation verse is about him

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or, what if the man is constantly misunderstood, because no one will approach him?
they might think they know him when actually they dont, and not knowing him very well causes them to dislike him, if their personal beliefs are clouding judgement.

basically, i think he is on his own and might have no choice except to go on alone.
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Misunderstood by those he cared about most as he came into himself.. hence the fool becoming the hermit.. those watching him since he was born had to step back and watch as he came to for his sake. The only way to gain true understanding is to figure things out on your own. They remained close. Just watching from a little farther back in the stands.

Basically what apollo is trying to say is.. remember that kid in the camo pants? Well, he's about to let go of his moms titty and if you are lucky he will let you latch on to his...

And we're off to see the wizard.......




Glad you are back to these threads apollo!!
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Tha Wizard of OZ???



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hakol kosmos ahav
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Twinkle, Twinkle Little Ko-Chav..=)
The Mazzoroth will lead his way..
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if you want to start a religion about the jewish moshiach you might as well use shimon bar chochva who was a far better candiate than jesus.

but even the great bar chochva was not moshiach
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I think, I know what you mean.
I didn´t understand that to the full as well, but now I have a better picture of this.
It´s really quite simple.
We´re still the ones who decide, which energy (spirits) we want to work with. But most people are unconscious of taking care of your mental health. They just take everything in passively, like most are used to, when they´re watching TV. This society is trained that way, that´s why subliminals even work. We are not aware of the influences, that we´re faced with everyday and when we don´t take care and give in to negative emotions, when we become greedy or selfish and don´t see the others around us anymore, that´s when we´re attracting the negative spirits.
If they just come to us or if we really bring them into live doesn´t matter. We´re then working with them hand in hand. May it be, that we didn´t do this on purpose, but it´s like that. Most people don´t deliberate themselves to this point. Nobody teached it to them. Lifestyle these days teaches you "It´s ok, if you only care for yourself".
But when you´re aware, you know you want to do else. You want to chose, which "force" you use. And this is taking responsibility. It´s not that any spirit can indwell into you, if you are aware and if you don´t want that. It is an agreement. It´s all about will in fact, the Aries-principle, first archetype, the "I want" or the "No, I don´t want to!". The defiant child, who says "No! Leave me alone!" That is the power of Aries. And you, who are aware, you are one who can chose. Most people don´t have power over their own will. That´s why they can be mislead so easily.

Yes I'm aware, but when reading I had the impression that the so called 'Ibbur' is waiting for someone who will be ready to 'channel' it. Which would mean that we, as human jars, can be 'filled' by any spirit.
I had this impression and I've had it before in other posts by Apollo. Still I gotta say I don't agree with it, I'm sorry if I'm getting it wrong.
 Quoting: 1908247

 Quoting: Artaius


Nothing to see here...Don't pay attention to this No-bodied individual.
It's all in the reflexes.
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I don't agree to the way this sounds, 'possession' and 'indwelt host', hmm
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I don't think it will be like a possession, that you think of, horror movies tend to exagerate :)

maybe if you think of it as that voice within, the inner compas that we all have, perhaps the host just controls that and not everything else in the body.
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The Compass, yes...


Exploring the Meaning of : The MASONIC Compass "G" and the Star of David. by Apollo

Written by Apollo Illuminaughty,
With qoutes/credits.

I would like to lead you all into a sample of the Grand Mysteries to which every Secret Society held sacred. It has to be experienced to be believed and within the initiations there is the key to immortal life

I wish you well on this voyage unto your own blissful union, and may you discover yourself whole and unblemished before the finality and wonder we call "God"

-Apollo


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The Masonic Compass "G" and the Star of David. by Apollo


The familiar symbol of Freemasonry is the letter "G:" in the interlocked compass and square that is put upon the altar of the Temple in the first three degrees.

The compass and square used by architect workers and builders. Freemasons learn to "square their actions" and learn to "circumscribe and keep us within due bounds toward all mankind":

The Compass and Square, usually called Sun compass and Moon square are easy to understand, but how about the letter G? Its been assumed to mean both God and Geometry. It also closely resembles the spiral symbol of the Mayan Sky god and healer, Hunab Ku.

:hunabku:

Let us look at the Ark of the Covenant for clues since the study of Solomons Temple is center in Freemasonry


What did the 2 cherubim on the ark of the covenant represent?

The answer which it gives is: "The mystery of the Golden Altar" (Dumfries Ms., ca. 1799).

Thus, the union of "the two Cherubim" in the Jerusalem Temple would appear to be the ultimate source of the "mystery of the Golden Altar" in the Masonic Temple.

QOUTE:
The letter "G" (signifying God's secret Name) appears between the intertwining compass and square and is paralleled by Philo's explanation that the union of the statues in the Jewish Temple represented God's "consorting" with the soul, and his "divinizing" of the recipient. Thus the compass and square are exact symbolic equivalents of the ancient Cherubim, i.e. the ancient "Male" and "Female," whose union was the central feature of the Wisdom mystery, and which brought about the candidate's deification. But we should also compare this unique symbolism with the Divine Image itself (Gen. 1:27), which teaches that God is male and female united; hence the sacred "G" appears only when the male compass and the female square are intertwined. " (shields research. /End Qoute)


In the Mysteries, the Symbolic union of male and female being a symbol of the Great Work is both in Mystic Israel and Gnostic tradition. and European Alchemy.



Heaven and Earth is also symbolic of God and his Bride, the Yod, heh, Vav Heh of the Tetragrammaton combining the Holy Family. It is also known as As Above, So Below.


Above, the celestial things, below, the terrestrial; by the male and the female the work is accomplished. Join the male and the female and you will find what you are seeking (Aphorisms of Zosimus)

QOUTE: But before they can complete this all-important work, both must die and pass through the "nigredo" state, i.e. the death and dissolution of the body. Zosimus appropriately characterized this stage of the mystery with the image of the "priest" who is torn to pieces and mutilated before he can be resurrected and discover the "Stone of the Nile." (Shields research/End Qoute)

The Two in One is also the Star of David , its center hexagram being the nara narayana or perfect state between man and God, or God and his Bride, this reflects the superius/inferius and externis/interius,from the Gospel of Thomas ("You shall enter the Kingdom when the upper is as the lower and the outside is as the inside.")

The Rebis and the letter G being the union of the Hermaphrodite God, The Union so complete that two become ONE and Inseperable.

:alchemy1:

Squaring the circle or the G is described in I Ching.

(ca. 720-474 B.C.) the heavens is round ( the compass delineates the horizon), and the earth is square (with its "four corners").

Yahweh says in the Old Testament verses, "I will set a plumb line in the midst of my people, Israel" (Amos 7:8). . . "Judgment will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet" (Isa. 28:17). . ."And thou shalt make an altar...(that) shall be foursquare" (Ex. 27:1). . . "When he prepared the heavens, I was there; when he set a compass upon the face of the depth." (Prov. 8:27) . . . "He has described a circle upon the face of the waters" (Job 26:10)

The Letter G is the perfect Symbol of the Divine Builder mastering both the Intellect of the Above with the Wisdom Below, The Sun and the Moon in perfect Harmony, In Santa Croce Cathedral in Florence, Jesus is above the main portal holding a workers square..

The Letter G in finality is the symbol of the Great Work pictured in the Universe card of the Tarot Major. In the Evolution of the Soul, Man unites his whole self in its original immortal ovoid and finds himself complete.

-Apollo Illuminaughty.


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Think of it like that:
You´re at home, al cozy and warm etc.
But somewhen you get the cabin fever, you think to yourself: Man, I see something of the world, been here for too, long. And then think of a world, where there isn´t anything to experience besides this home. You have to create the world, you want to discover. And when you´re finished creating, you need to forget, otherwise, there´d be nothing new.

heres a good question he may have already answered....whats the big deal about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?

why get him to taste it, and then all the work to...untaste it?

lol, such a strange thing, dont you think?
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How could you become divided when you live in david.
you think the difference between you and god is a devide.
What a ride
It's all in the reflexes.
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now lets cut the crap, everyone knows that glp was designed to track him down.

why would both glp and the rabbis be looking for him.
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And They Wonder Why He Paranoid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4019795


LOL ! I hope this isnt disrespectful

But question why the character dances in his underwear? Cause King David did..


 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Im Not Jewish Lol. Catholic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4019795


The wafer is the radiant sun, his body...

:waferhost::popesun::sunrise23::sacredheart:


:wingedsundisk:

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