"Sure... just read the words "the wrath of the Lamb". Does even the first seal happen without the Lamb of God opening it? Show me in scripture where it says that the first 5 seals happen without God instigating them. Scripture itself is the proof."


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I agree that Christ opens all the 7 Seals.......but I do not see the word wrath mentionned at all in Chapter 5. Can you show it to me???


Wrath is not mentionned until the 6th Seal......when the great ones hide in fear in caves and declare that God's wrath is about to begin.



I looked when he opened the sixth seal, and hehold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.

And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, hid themsleves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,

and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!

For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"



The 144,000 of Israel are then sealed from harm. They will remain on earth.

Then a great number from all the nations which no one could number is seen standing in heaven. They are clothed in robes and have palm branches in their hands. These are the Christians caught up by the angels......just prior to God's wrath.


The above position is not well known......but is referred to as Pre-Wrath........the Pre-Wrath Rapture of the church.