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For Christians: The scriptural basis for the pre-tribulational Rapture
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Anyone can repent at anytime before they either die or are changed at the end when Christ returns at the 7th trump. Will many? Likely not as God has plans to redeem many during the millineum as it it is written in the later chapters of Ezekiel.
The purpose of Gods witnesses is to bring truth and also provide that little help that Gods election will require in thier trials when each is thrown in prison 10 days.
There will no longer be corruptible flesh bodies upon the earth after Christ returns and the change occurs. All will be in incorruptible bodies but this clearly is not immortality as many will still refuse to Love God and each other after being taught the difference between the holy and profane for 1000 years. These same souls will follow satan into the lake of fire which is destruction not torment.
One really needs to look close with understanding the rest of what is written in the book to understand what is meant in Revelation 14:11. God is not like satan to torment souls for ever and ever. This is something other than the smoke of the soul rising up.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32165033 Corruption and incorruption are opposites, just as mortal and immortal are opposites. To be immortal is to be incorruptible. As Paul said, 42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. ... 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.
50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”
Quoting: 1 Cor. 15There must be mortal (corruptible) bodies on the earth to repopulate it during the Millennium. Otherwise there would be no one for Satan to deceive at the end, when all of the rebels are killed by Jesus and thrown into the Lake of Fire. I will not debate Universalism in this thread. This is about the timing of the Rapture. This is on topic of the pretrib rapture as the theory use these topics to build its foundation. There a two places for souls right now in the kingdom of God. Righteous in Christ go one place and the unrighteous another. There is a gulf that separates them. Although the scripture you quoted may sound like immortality it is not. It's talking about glory and power of the spiritual body which has nothing to do with the righteousness of ones soul in Christ. But where is it written that there must be corruptable bodies on the earth to repopulate it? If that is the case then how is the lion going to lay with the lamb if it still needs to eat flesh to sustain itself? There will be no more sun for light in the eternity to sustain this world as we know it today. God has much more grand plans in store for the eternity. To clarify. Verses above 50 you have quoted speak to incorruptable bodies. It is only below 50 that immortality is brought into the discussion and this has reference to the 1st resurrection. Which are those, specifically Gods election, that remain true to Christ and do not apostacise to satan up until all are changed and the mystery of God is revealed to all. The rest also in incorruptable bodies, can participate in the 2nd resurrection after being tested by satan once more at the end of the millennium. All that are still alive when Christ returns are changed to bodies that no longer age. Some are graced with immortality right there on the spot, but not the majority. God is a consuming fire. After the great white throne of judgment any in incorruptable bodies that still cling to evil rudiments are going to burnt up and perish forever as of they never existed. Just gone. Incorruption is not immortality.
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