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Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.

 
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Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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To be truthful, Jesus never wrote down ANYTHING...

The bible was written about 300 years after he died!
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John 14:9-14 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Mark 14:60-63 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
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I'm not sure if your asking the question but I will answer it anyway. Jesus did not say he was God as he was not God. He was God's Son and God sacrificed his Son for our Sin.
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John 14:9-14 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Mark 14:60-63 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
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Didn't you hear me? The book you are quoting from was written 300 years after he died!

I asked if Jesus ever said he was a God. He NEVER wrote a word of the bible. Get it? Listen!
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I'm not sure if your asking the question but I will answer it anyway. Jesus did not say he was God as he was not God. He was God's Son and God sacrificed his Son for our Sin.
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You mean like we are all Sons and Daughters of God also? That's true. Just as he was.
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To be truthful, Jesus never wrote down ANYTHING...

The bible was written about 300 years after he died!
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It was written by some of the disciples, doctors, etc of the time who witnessed Jesus Parables etc. Also Jesus is written about in other literature in cultures like India etc.
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But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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Some do and have, and subsequently reconfigure along with abandoning the Harlot ;)
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he meant follow me in a literal way not religious!

he wants us to be as he was...not put him on a pedestal to be worshiped

silly humans tricks are for kids
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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise.
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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
To be truthful, Jesus never wrote down ANYTHING...

The bible was written about 300 years after he died!
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It was written by some of the disciples, doctors, etc of the time who witnessed Jesus Parables etc. Also Jesus is written about in other literature in cultures like India etc.
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Could they have not misunderstood that he was a wise and advanced being, but just a man? Just...like...all...of...us...

We are just not as wise as he was.....yet.
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I'm not sure if your asking the question but I will answer it anyway. Jesus did not say he was God as he was not God. He was God's Son and God sacrificed his Son for our Sin.
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You mean like we are all Sons and Daughters of God also? That's true. Just as he was.
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No. Mary was impregnated by God.
Where as, your human mom was impregnated by your human dad.
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John 14:9-14 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Mark 14:60-63 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1838356


Didn't you hear me? The book you are quoting from was written 300 years after he died!

I asked if Jesus ever said he was a God. He NEVER wrote a word of the bible. Get it? Listen!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


nope. the bible was written earlier, we only have copies from 300ad...

what do you think all them Christians got executed for and ate by lions and stuff? just cuz their hair was long or they thought they knew something?

naa likely...

more likely, the vatican has the earliest copies... but they couldn't hide all the copies so they codified and paganized what they could and only published in Latin...

then the reformers came along and called the Pope satanic and translated the bible and now you have copies and can read it whenever you like...

and freedom to do so because of this protestant movement and the freedoms that came with it...

:)
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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise.
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Again. He did not write this.
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I'm not sure if your asking the question but I will answer it anyway. Jesus did not say he was God as he was not God. He was God's Son and God sacrificed his Son for our Sin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28168604


You mean like we are all Sons and Daughters of God also? That's true. Just as he was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


No. Mary was impregnated by God.

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He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise.
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Again. He did not write this.
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That's fine, but if we're going there, then the whole ball of wax probably needs to be re-assessed. How are *any* of the writings reliable? Etc.
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I'm not sure if your asking the question but I will answer it anyway. Jesus did not say he was God as he was not God. He was God's Son and God sacrificed his Son for our Sin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28168604


You mean like we are all Sons and Daughters of God also? That's true. Just as he was.
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No. Mary was impregnated by God.
Where as, your human mom was impregnated by your human dad.
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PICS?
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John 14:9-14 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Mark 14:60-63 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1838356


Didn't you hear me? The book you are quoting from was written 300 years after he died!

I asked if Jesus ever said he was a God. He NEVER wrote a word of the bible. Get it? Listen!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


nope. the bible was written earlier, we only have copies from 300ad...

what do you think all them Christians got executed for and ate by lions and stuff? just cuz their hair was long or they thought they knew something?

naa likely...

more likely, the vatican has the earliest copies... but they couldn't hide all the copies so they codified and paganized what they could and only published in Latin...

then the reformers came along and called the Pope satanic and translated the bible and now you have copies and can read it whenever you like...

and freedom to do so because of this protestant movement and the freedoms that came with it...

:)
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Learn your own church history. The bible was created at the Council of Nicea by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Before that MANY "gospels" existed. Many rejected by the Christians.
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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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no but He said that God and Him were one, which, if people understood what that meant


they would realize these self-divinity people are close, but still a million miles away
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I'm not sure if your asking the question but I will answer it anyway. Jesus did not say he was God as he was not God. He was God's Son and God sacrificed his Son for our Sin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28168604


You mean like we are all Sons and Daughters of God also? That's true. Just as he was.
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No. Mary was impregnated by God.

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1rof1cruiselmaolol
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Cool images bro. You're so fucking clever and original.
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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
He did say "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father" and "My Father and I are one". Elsewhere, scripture says that in Him dwelt the fullness of God bodily, and Hebrews 1 calls Him the "express image" (Greek charakter) of God. That's good enough for me to subscribe to a Jesus = God premise.
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Again. He did not write this.
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That's fine, but if we're going there, then the whole ball of wax probably needs to be re-assessed. How are *any* of the writings reliable? Etc.
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My point exactly...
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OP I used to think like you that Christianity and beleiving in Jesus was very difficult to believe. However, I looked at how his disciples (who died horrific deaths as marters) 10 out of 11 of them. Must have believed that he was God's Son otherwise why would they die for a lie???
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Council of Nicea, FTW!

They just made it all up as they went along, like a Scandinavian buffet!

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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
he didn't need to
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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no but He said that God and Him were one, which, if people understood what that meant


they would realize these self-divinity people are close, but still a million miles away
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28335293


We are ALL One with God. All of us humans. See what I'm saying? Not just Jesus.
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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
he didn't need to
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You just guess what he meant then, right?
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OP I used to think like you that Christianity and beleiving in Jesus was very difficult to believe. However, I looked at how his disciples (who died horrific deaths as marters) 10 out of 11 of them. Must have believed that he was God's Son otherwise why would they die for a lie???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28168604


I believe the things that he may have been a very wise and advanced being. I can understand how people would follow him. They just were wrong in seeing him as more than a man...
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Re: Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.
The Bible has been the number one selling book for 500 years! there must be a reason!
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We are ALL One with God. All of us humans. See what I'm saying? Not just Jesus.
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Fair enough cheers

Though you do realize that the hardcore zealots among us who want to exclude unbelieving heathen wicked evildoers from this status are the most onest-with-God of all, right?

;)
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The Bible has been the number one selling book for 500 years! there must be a reason!
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Yes. A great fiction story.
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The Bible has been the number one selling book for 500 years! there must be a reason!
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Why the fuck are they *selling* it?

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