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Did Jesus ever say he was a God? Anywhere? In any book? No.

 
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We are ALL One with God. All of us humans. See what I'm saying? Not just Jesus.
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Fair enough cheers

Though you do realize that the hardcore zealots among us who want to exclude unbelieving heathen wicked evildoers from this status are the most onest-with-God of all, right?

;)
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Thus the reason for this thread.
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OP is a liar a child of the devil.

He does not want to understand. He does not have ears to hear.

I shake the dust from my feet.

OP your days are numbered. Use them carefully because your exercise in the liberty of faithlessness will be your eternal prison and you will hear my words ringing in you ears unless you change your mind.








Mr 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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no but He said that God and Him were one, which, if people understood what that meant


they would realize these self-divinity people are close, but still a million miles away
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We are ALL One with God. All of us humans. See what I'm saying? Not just Jesus.
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Cool, but you're missing the big idea. Let's erase Jesus and God and use another diety.

Zeus's half human son is a direct son of god. Unless your a son of a god you're not like him; tough shit OP.
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I shake the dust from my feet.
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Lol - I always love this

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John 14:9-14 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Mark 14:60-63 And the high priest stood up in the midst, and asked Jesus, saying, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses?
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Didn't you hear me? The book you are quoting from was written 300 years after he died!

I asked if Jesus ever said he was a God. He NEVER wrote a word of the bible. Get it? Listen!
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nope. the bible was written earlier, we only have copies from 300ad...

what do you think all them Christians got executed for and ate by lions and stuff? just cuz their hair was long or they thought they knew something?

naa likely...

more likely, the vatican has the earliest copies... but they couldn't hide all the copies so they codified and paganized what they could and only published in Latin...

then the reformers came along and called the Pope satanic and translated the bible and now you have copies and can read it whenever you like...

and freedom to do so because of this protestant movement and the freedoms that came with it...

:)
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Learn your own church history. The bible was created at the Council of Nicea by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Before that MANY "gospels" existed. Many rejected by the Christians.
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yup. you seem smart. but you also seem biased.

seems like old Constantine couldn't get rid of the pesky Christ followers and you can't run an empire on love for each other and God, now can ya?

nope. so old Constantine decided to co-opt the trend and paganize it... 'course he was probably a spirit-worshipper himself, but Christ followers can get in the way of that too... better to co-opt and corrupt... if you want to run a blood-thirsty empire and commune with spirits who are demonic, power-hungry and evil...

shows God's over-all control, to me... but you can choose to think what you like...

:)
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The Bible has been the number one selling book for 500 years! there must be a reason!
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Why the fuck are they *selling* it?
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If they want to produce a good from raw material they need too.
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eternal prison
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No such thing exists
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The Bible has been the number one selling book for 500 years! there must be a reason!
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Why the fuck are they *selling* it?
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If they want to produce a good from raw material they need too.
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You've never received anything for free? Bummer.

hmm
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The Bible has been the number one selling book for 500 years! there must be a reason!
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Why the fuck are they *selling* it?
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Because if he was a God, you can never reach to the level he was at! We will forever have to go to the church to be "taught" what he really was. We would never be advanced enough to understand a God.

In short. They become all powerful and VERY rich. And they want to keep this lie going. Guess why?
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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no but He said that God and Him were one, which, if people understood what that meant


they would realize these self-divinity people are close, but still a million miles away
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28335293


We are ALL One with God. All of us humans. See what I'm saying? Not just Jesus.
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Cool, but you're missing the big idea. Let's erase Jesus and God and use another diety.

Zeus's half human son is a direct son of god. Unless your a son of a god you're not like him; tough shit OP.
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I am the Son of God and so are you. And everyone else.
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OP is a liar a child of the devil.

He does not want to understand. He does not have ears to hear.

I shake the dust from my feet.

OP your days are numbered. Use them carefully because your exercise in the liberty of faithlessness will be your eternal prison and you will hear my words ringing in you ears unless you change your mind.

Mr 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
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I don't see where it says to judge anyone yourself... in fact there are passages that might say you should pray for OP...

it is this general tone that loses people... and NT also says we will be judged by how we treat others...

:)
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OP is a liar a child of the devil.

He does not want to understand. He does not have ears to hear.

I shake the dust from my feet.

OP your days are numbered. Use them carefully because your exercise in the liberty of faithlessness will be your eternal prison and you will hear my words ringing in you ears unless you change your mind.








Mr 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
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How many thousands of years has this been said. How many people have you burned at the stake for speaking the truth and disagreeing with the churches lies.

What a fool. Burn anyone that searches for the truth? I feel sorry for you!
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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Your problem is you don't know enough to know how fucking wrong you are...
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Learn your own church history. The bible was created at the Council of Nicea by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Before that MANY "gospels" existed. Many rejected by the Christians.
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yup. you seem smart. but you also seem biased.

seems like old Constantine couldn't get rid of the pesky Christ followers and you can't run an empire on love for each other and God, now can ya?

nope. so old Constantine decided to co-opt the trend and paganize it... 'course he was probably a spirit-worshipper himself, but Christ followers can get in the way of that too... better to co-opt and corrupt... if you want to run a blood-thirsty empire and commune with spirits who are demonic, power-hungry and evil...

shows God's over-all control, to me... but you can choose to think what you like...

:)


The Christian church has always been and still is about control. Power is the answer. The power over us! No other purpose exits for this Christian fakery.
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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Become mentally retarded like you? Sounds cool, Well on the bright side I will get excellent parking. grinning
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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Your problem is you don't know enough to know how fucking wrong you are...
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What a blessing!

=D
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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I don't want to be like you.
you are a fool.

have a nice day.
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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Your problem is you don't know enough to know how fucking wrong you are...
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Do you have some knowledge I don't? Well, share it! No, you only have a book written by men 325 years after Jesus' death to go by. He NEVER wrote a single word himself. At least none we have been allowed to see.

Come on. Tell me what you know that I don't. And don't quote that stupid book of fiction you call a bible.
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


Your problem is you don't know enough to know how fucking wrong you are...
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Do you have some knowledge I don't? Well, share it! No, you only have a book written by men 325 years after Jesus' death to go by. He NEVER wrote a single word himself. At least none we have been allowed to see.

Come on. Tell me what you know that I don't. And don't quote that stupid book of fiction you call a bible.
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You are also ignorant.
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OP, I think you are on the right track... you just might want to research the luciferian deception and the testimonies of people who have been part of it...

I compiled a little list with some descriptors, here:

Thread: John Lear is wrong about Christ (much as I like him) :)

ask yourself why there is a deception, who is involved and why...

the way it appears to me is we get two basic choices: service and love for others and God or service and love for self and lucifer--this latter one comes in many flavors and appearances, but feels the same, by degrees and includes "alien abductions" and "ascended masters"...

:)
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You're missing the big idea. Let's erase Jesus and God and use another diety.

Zeus's half human son is a direct son of god. Unless you're a son of a god you're not like him; tough shit OP.

Respond or get the fuck out of here OP. You're not even setting a cohesive argument that we're all spiritual beings. Which is true. You waste time by comparing humans to demigods like Jesus.
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You are also ignorant.
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(Was that not implicit when you called him a "fool"?)
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22577422


Your problem is you don't know enough to know how fucking wrong you are...
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Do you have some knowledge I don't? Well, share it! No, you only have a book written by men 325 years after Jesus' death to go by. He NEVER wrote a single word himself. At least none we have been allowed to see.

Come on. Tell me what you know that I don't. And don't quote that stupid book of fiction you call a bible.
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You are also ignorant.
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Yeah, and you are ugly.

Come on. Calling me names does not change the truth. Why are you afraid to look at what you have been told? God gave you a brain and a heart to understand your world!

You are being kept a slave because of your fear and your ignorance.

Think for yourself!
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bump
What I knew as tangible and real was nothing more than a flimsy, thin sheet of a reality.
I come to know that the real "me" is a supersoul that is my true reality that resides in the spirit world.
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Christians turned this wise and advanced being into a God because they did not understand his true message.

He message was when you understand what I understand, you can become like me.

But no Christian will even consider that they have it wrong...
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I don't want to be like you.
you are a fool.

have a nice day.
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But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.


It's funny how you can see the speck in his eyes but you can't see the log in your own.

Jesus had a word for people like you Hypocrites!!!
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You're missing the big idea. Let's erase Jesus and God and use another diety.

Zeus's half human son is a direct son of god. Unless you're a son of a god you're not like him; tough shit OP.

Respond or get the fuck out of here OP. You're not even setting a cohesive argument that we're all spiritual beings. Which is true. You waste time by comparing humans to demigods like Jesus.
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Perhaps I'm being a bit brazen but seriously, come on.
When we deceive ourselves it only hurts us in the long run.
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Learn your own church history. The bible was created at the Council of Nicea by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Before that MANY "gospels" existed. Many rejected by the Christians.
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yup. you seem smart. but you also seem biased.

seems like old Constantine couldn't get rid of the pesky Christ followers and you can't run an empire on love for each other and God, now can ya?

nope. so old Constantine decided to co-opt the trend and paganize it... 'course he was probably a spirit-worshipper himself, but Christ followers can get in the way of that too... better to co-opt and corrupt... if you want to run a blood-thirsty empire and commune with spirits who are demonic, power-hungry and evil...

shows God's over-all control, to me... but you can choose to think what you like...

:)
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The Christian church has always been and still is about control. Power is the answer. The power over us! No other purpose exits for this Christian fakery.



this "power" you speak of is service to self oriented...

the churches are corrupted, no doubt about it... Ezekiel says the church is a whore, and a dumb whore at that who pays for being one...

Read the New Testament and use your free will to ask God to reveal Himself... this is a pretty tried and true method...

or you could just keep searching, like me, and come to the same conclusion God would have shown you anyway...

if you are sincere and seek truth, you will find it... one of the more profound aspects of this reality...

:)
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I'm not sure if your asking the question but I will answer it anyway. Jesus did not say he was God as he was not God. He was God's Son and God sacrificed his Son for our Sin.
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Nope. Fail. He was one of the first and most convenient Martyr of his time. He was simply the first "televangelist" of his time. That is why the Christians decided to use him. He was the first known symbol of his time. Then it was Paul I believe that went on to write biblical scripture and promote the recruiting of the Christian faith. Funny how the Romans HATED the idea of Christianity because it put a dark shadow on the Roman GODS theory. Today the Papal Society is based on Conversion because of submission due to popular belief and war, not on TRUE faith.
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You're missing the big idea. Let's erase Jesus and God and use another diety.

Zeus's half human son is a direct son of god. Unless you're a son of a god you're not like him; tough shit OP.

Respond or get the fuck out of here OP. You're not even setting a cohesive argument that we're all spiritual beings. Which is true. You waste time by comparing humans to demigods like Jesus.
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I answered your question earlier. I am the Son of God! And so are you and every other human on this planet. We are just as capable of becoming as an advanced being as Jesus was if we follow his example. We can become another Jesus in time.

Again, he was just a man. A wise man, but a man.
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OP is a liar a child of the devil.

He does not want to understand. He does not have ears to hear.

I shake the dust from my feet.

OP your days are numbered. Use them carefully because your exercise in the liberty of faithlessness will be your eternal prison and you will hear my words ringing in you ears unless you change your mind.








Mr 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
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will there be conjugal visits in this prison?

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