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The earth is NOT 6000 years old.

 
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who fucking cares what the old fuck says,he is going to burn in hell
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go to a museum
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Been. Many mockup fictions about their theories. Not real science. Such as apes with human feet that were just created from someone's imagination.

What at the museum do you believe is older than 6000yo?

Creation Museums

[link to creationmuseums.com]
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funchrist
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I believe Jesus laughed.
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and will again:
"He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision." Psalm 2.4
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Satan did it. No wait, it must have been god testing your faith.


I find it funny that science is pushing human history back more and more while creationists are stuck at 6,000 firm, because they have a book that tells them so. Pagans. That's all you are.
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laugh
I'm terrified of anyone who doesn't want to read any book other than bible or a book written by a creationist.. like holy Shit. We are missing the point here. How long did man walk alongside dinosaurs before he forgot to paint them in caves adjacent to things that did exist at the time. I've never seen a credible scientist even mention creationism. I'd hate to see what the rest of these people's lives are like. I'm thinking trailer park.
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[link to www.genesispark.com]

^You mean like these? Or the fact that the Chinese have 11 "existing" animals in their Zodiac, and then a dragon?

Have you ever heard of Isaac Newton?
Francis Bacon?
Robert Boyle?
Michael Faraday?
Johann Kepler?
Gregor Mendel?
Louis Pasteur?
A.E. Wilder-Smith?

Nah, no scientist of any credibility believes in Creationism. The slight majority of modern-day scientists accept long ages, and molecule-to-man evolution, sure...but does that make it so? The world's best minds once believed the Earth was flat and that the planet's revolved around the Earth...were they stupid? Or was it just the accepted science of the day, so that is all they were taught, and everything in their studies was viewed through that world-view? The evidence for Creation is all around you. It is in the rocks, the trees, the animals, under microscopes, and clearly displayed in the heavens above. The evidence for Creation is not different evidence, it is the interpretation that is different, because we see through a different worldview.
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
Romans 1.21
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Of course I've heard of these men, some great scientisds in their own right. But it's unfortunate that they couldn't live to see a standardized way of dating take shape. It's also quite unfortunate that you reject RCD as the right way. You lost me when you started quoting that ridiculous book though. I simply don't have the energy to go on and on about how wrong you are. Science has come a long way, we can actually leave earth to see that it is round, and we can date things to see how old they are. That's a fact. And it's one you'll have to accept. I'm curious if creationists spend all of their time looking for the most illogical arguments to hold up their theories that simply won't be around in 50 years.
It's too much work trying to prove something that's already been falsified over and over. Just give it up. There's no truth in that book. Zero. Nada. Zilth. You'd have better luck proving another, more ancient holy book to be true.
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there is no other holy book...
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Sorry to break it to you, but it is.


Choose to believe what you will. I promise you that one day the truth will be revealed to you and to everyone. Whether you choose to see it before it's too late for you will be your decision.
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I'm not trying to be rude here at all. How can in possibly only be 6000 years old? Do you think dinosaurs were a hoax? What about the scientific proof that earths millions of years old?
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Satan did it. No wait, it must have been god testing your faith.


I find it funny that science is pushing human history back more and more while creationists are stuck at 6,000 firm, because they have a book that tells them so. Pagans. That's all you are.
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"24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it." Matthew 7.24-27

Yep, a rock foundation is rather firm.
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Well obviously its only 6000 years old. The dinosaurs died off exactly 6000 years ago. All modern day scientists and anthropologists are liars.
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Sorry to break it to you, but it is.


Choose to believe what you will. I promise you that one day the truth will be revealed to you and to everyone. Whether you choose to see it before it's too late for you will be your decision.
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I'm not trying to be rude here at all. How can in possibly only be 6000 years old? Do you think dinosaurs were a hoax? What about the scientific proof that earths millions of years old?
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Not rude at all, I used to be there too. The dinosaurs were created on Day 6, and most were killed off in the Flood. You have been lied to most of your life...until now:

[link to www.answersingenesis.org]

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Article in the Washington Post today:

Grand Canyon 70 million years old.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Did someone really just there are "no other holy books".
That kind of ignorance is being passed on to our children.
I would not want my children attending a school with people who reject all world religions because theirs is the only true one. That makes you an atheist, and an idiot.
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Anyone who honestly believes the bible is literal truth is seriously mislead. The similarities between the Jesus story in the new testament and the stories of a number of supposed deities that came before should be enough for you to question that. Chances are, Jesus didn't even an exist and he is yet another allegorical reference to the sun.

But if you want to believe that the bible is true, and that Jesus did exist on this planet 2000 years ago and that he died for our sins and was the son of god, that's fine. That is your choice.

But to reason that the earth is only 6000 years old by extrapolating dates and peoples ages in the bible and so on is ludicrous. You'd have to believe that ALL science, geology, astronomy, and so on is 100% wrong. all the technology we have today, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of brilliant people and their research is wrong, carbon dating and fossil records are wrong (which is impossible). Really? I once heard on a religious radio show that God put the ancient carbon and fossils on this planet to test our faith. He placed organic material that can easily be tested with today's technology to be 100s of thousands of years old to test us. There isn't really anything else I can say regarding how absurd that is.

Everything about this "6000 year old" claim is such incredible fallacy and every intelligent christian I know, even those that are fundamentalists, are embarrassed that people who preach to them encourage this nonsense. I can't even imagine the life-long brainwashing that it must take for an adult to truly believe this to be true.
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Did someone really just there are "no other holy books".
That kind of ignorance is being passed on to our children.
I would not want my children attending a school with people who reject all world religions because theirs is the only true one. That makes you an atheist, and an idiot.
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Not as big of an idiot as putting your children in Marxist schools.
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Anyone who honestly believes the bible is literal truth is seriously mislead. The similarities between the Jesus story in the new testament and the stories of a number of supposed deities that came before should be enough for you to question that. Chances are, Jesus didn't even an exist and he is yet another allegorical reference to the sun.

But if you want to believe that the bible is true, and that Jesus did exist on this planet 2000 years ago and that he died for our sins and was the son of god, that's fine. That is your choice.

But to reason that the earth is only 6000 years old by extrapolating dates and peoples ages in the bible and so on is ludicrous. You'd have to believe that ALL science, geology, astronomy, and so on is 100% wrong. all the technology we have today, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of brilliant people and their research is wrong, carbon dating and fossil records are wrong (which is impossible). Really? I once heard on a religious radio show that God put the ancient carbon and fossils on this planet to test our faith. He placed organic material that can easily be tested with today's technology to be 100s of thousands of years old to test us. There isn't really anything else I can say regarding how absurd that is.

Everything about this "6000 year old" claim is such incredible fallacy and every intelligent christian I know, even those that are fundamentalists, are embarrassed that people who preach to them encourage this nonsense. I can't even imagine the life-long brainwashing that it must take for an adult to truly believe this to be true.
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I was an atheist and accepted the theory of molecules-to-man evolution my whole life. I converted to Christianity when I was 19 and realized the theory and the Book could not both be right. Starting doing a lot of research of my own and realizing all of the lies and propaganda I had been fed my whole life by Marxist public school education and stumbled upon the truth. The Bible is about 6,000 years old and the evidence for it is overwhelming, it just isn't allowed to be taught in schools. This 18-hour video series helped me out a lot, for the "scientific" evidence of a Young Earth, skip to part B(1:13). The whole series should be viewed though, to get the big picture. Enjoy!
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Article in the Washington Post today:

Grand Canyon 70 million years old.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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The MSM propaganda comes out every week with such claims.

The Grand Canyon formed during the global flood just 4500 years ago.

Hydroplate Theory: The global flood explained
with Dr. Walt Brown
[link to www.youtube.com]
(illustrated)
[link to www.tasc-creationscience.org]
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I'm not trying to be rude here at all. How can in possibly only be 6000 years old? Do you think dinosaurs were a hoax? What about the scientific proof that earths millions of years old?
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The global fossil record is a result of a global flood. Were the fossils actually the given ages claimed they would have eroded away long ago at given erosion rates.

Eroding ages
[link to creation.com]

Fossils: Millions of years?
[link to www.johnpratt.com]
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Sorry to break it to you, but it is.


Choose to believe what you will. I promise you that one day the truth will be revealed to you and to everyone. Whether you choose to see it before it's too late for you will be your decision.
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I'm not trying to be rude here at all. How can in possibly only be 6000 years old? Do you think dinosaurs were a hoax? What about the scientific proof that earths millions of years old?
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You can't argue with religious zealots. Let them believe what they want.
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My question would be, what else are Christians wrong about?
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Lots of things, obviously.
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The Grand Canyon formed during the global flood just 4500 years ago.

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The earth is NOT 6000 years old
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Take a trip to the grand canyon and realize the portion of the Colorada River that exits sits higher then the place it enters. Proof of massive water erosion, i.e. the great flood.



If the earth was millions of years old we could walk across the gulf of mexico because it would be full of silt from the dumping of the mississipi.



If the earth was millions of years old then the niagra falls wouldnt exist since its erosion is very fast, something on the order of 14 miles from where it was first recoorded.
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Creationists are actually living proof that people who have had a prefontal lobotomy can still type (albeit incoherently) on a computer.

Truly amazing (although the vast majority of them still suffer tremendous degrees of incontinence-mainly from their mouths).
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As a Christian, I feel like arguing over this issue is kind of like straining gnats while swallowing camels.

I believe that GOD cleared this issue through His Son, Jesus Christ. And that there are other issues of greater importance to be concerned with. Rather than argue about how old the earth is.
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My question would be, what else are Christians wrong about?
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You haven't even established that they are wrong about the earth being 6,000 years old. So your comment is moot. And your source (Huffpo) is a sewer pipe of distortions, Canucktard.
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LMFAO
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Sorry to break it to you, but it is.


Choose to believe what you will. I promise you that one day the truth will be revealed to you and to everyone. Whether you choose to see it before it's too late for you will be your decision.
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I'm not trying to be rude here at all. How can in possibly only be 6000 years old? Do you think dinosaurs were a hoax? What about the scientific proof that earths millions of years old?
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Not rude at all, I used to be there too. The dinosaurs were created on Day 6, and most were killed off in the Flood. You have been lied to most of your life...until now:

[link to www.answersingenesis.org]


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you are a fucktard.

on day 6 eh, LOL LOL
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Thread: Age of the earth

Biological evidence for a young age of the earth
Image: Dr Mary Schweitzer


The finding of pliable blood vessels, blood cells and proteins in dinosaur bone is consistent with an age of thousands of years for the fossils, not the 65+ million years claimed by the paleontologists.
DNA in “ancient” fossils. DNA extracted from bacteria that are supposed to be 425 million years old brings into question that age, because DNA could not last more than thousands of years.
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Thread: VIDEO: Dinosaur Soft Tissue Destroys Millions of Years Ideas - Do you think Dinosaurs where the Dragons the old timers talk about?

Mary Schweitzer has discovered dinosaur soft tissue numerous times during the last 10 years. This video shows the strongest cases and debunks the evolutionary rebuttals. It also includes amazing video interviews from Schweitzer herself.

I think it pretty silly that people claim "the tissue wasn't soft until chemically treated". I would wonder what they mean by 'soft' but it is completely beside the point! The fact is - the tissue survived. It's condition is irrelevant.

 Quoting: TripleH

Analysis of Dinosaur Bone Cells Confirms Ancient Protein Preservation
[link to www.nsf.gov] 10/23/2012
A team of researchers from North Carolina State University and the Palo Alto Research Center has found more evidence for the preservation of ancient dinosaur proteins, including reactivity to antibodies that target specific proteins normally found in bone cells of vertebrates. These results further rule out sample contamination, and help solidify the case for preservation of cells--and possibly DNA--in ancient remains.



Thread: Dinosaur Blood Extracted From Bone
[link to www.wnd.com] 4/30/2009
Collagen, hemoglobin, elastin, laminin and cell-like structures resembling blood and bone cells have been found in a dinosaur bone scientists still claim is 80 million years old, according to a report in Science magazine today.

Paleontologist Mary Schweitzer of North Carolina State University first claimed to have isolated soft tissues and collagen from a Tyrannosaurus rex leg bone several years ago.

But because the leg was broken during excavation, the evidence was damaged and could never be independently confirmed.

Schweitzer then examined a more pristine leg of a plant-eating hadrosaur excavated from sandstone and found even better samples of soft tissue, according to the report.

“Our findings demonstrated that it did contain basement membrane matrix,” said Lewis Cantley, chief of the division of signal transduction at Beth Israel Deaconess, and a co-author on the Science study. Basement membranes, which degrade and regenerate during development and wound repair, comprise a continuous extracellular matrix that links endothelial, epithelial, muscle, or neuronal cells and their adjacent stroma.

In situ mass spectrometery independently verified amino acids in dinosaur tissues, including the collagen signature amino acid, hydroxylated proline.

While scientists previously questioned the possibility that soft tissue could survive tens of millions of years of fossilization, few seem to be questioning their assumptions that dinosaurs actually went extinct 65 million years ago.

Young earth proponents see something entirely different in the findings. As one creationist noted: “There’s no way this blood could be 80 million years old. The evolutionists are just saying so because they cannot bear the thought of recent dinosaurs causing their millions of years scenario to come crashing down. Without the millions of years, Darwinism is dead, dead, dead.”
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Thread: There are living dinosaurs today wipes out darwins theory

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Cryptozoological Realms

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Artwork by Bill Rebsamen

Mokele-mbembe: The Living Dinosaur!



Introduction
In the jungles of central Africa countries of Congo, Cameroon, and Gabon are reports of animal an animal with a long neck, a long tail, and rounded shape tracks with three claws. The closest known animal that has these characteristics is a sauropod dinosaur.

When some of the local people of the Likouala region would draw in the dirt or sand a representation of Mokele-mbembe they drew the shape of a sauropod dinosaur. Then when they were shown a picture of a sauropod dinosaur they said that picture is Mokele-mbembe.
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MonsterQuest Season 3: Episode 18 - The Last Dinosaur

[link to www.history.com] 6/24/2009
In the jungles of central Africa there may be a living relic of a dinosaur that stalks the rivers and frightens the local inhabitants. The feared creature, known as Mokele-mbembe, or "the one who stops the flow of rivers," is said to closely resemble the enormous long necked and four legged saurpod - a dinosaur that science claims went extinct 65 million years ago.
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To those that believe every word of the King James version...

Take a trip to somewhere like the Grand Canyon, where you can clearly see, with your own eyes, millions of years of sediment layers in the rock walls.
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Hydrological sorting...from the Flood "look it up"
While you are at it, look up "poly strata fossils"
Your religion is based upon fraud, the geologic column only exists in textbooks, not in real life.
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Flume tank research with sediment of different particle sizes show that layered rock strata that were thought to have formed over huge periods of time in lake beds actually formed very quickly. Even the precise layer thicknesses of rocks were duplicated after they were ground into their sedimentary particles and run through the flume. See Experiments in stratification of heterogeneous sand mixtures, Sedimentation Experiments: Nature finally catches up! and Sandy Stripes Do many layers mean many years?
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You guys do realize that the 'bible' is just a rewriting of all of the holy books that came before it, right? Why would anyone look for truth in a book that is not even original in its ideas? Perhaps you should check out the books that inspired it, or wait, you wouldn't read that either?
I love how you guys just turn a cheek to anything that might change your mind. If the truth stared you in the face, I have a feeling you'd just tturn away and act like children. Well, there's the truth, the earth is older than what you'd like.. so what? It doesn't disprove the bible, there are a million other things that do that just fine. Would you like some examples?
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^^^Truth.


Christians are people who've build a cathedral of a belief system on a foundation of fiction. A total waste of effort and lifetime.
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You think the Grand Canyon was formed by a Flood? Okay, whatever. I have another question for young earth theorists. What creates impact craters?

There are impact craters that are over 100 Kilometers wide. Any impact that would create such a crater would be many hundreds of megatons of TNT in destructive power. It would wipe out all life on earth, and leave it uninhabitable for at least centuries, most likely more.

And it's not the only one. There are dozens of impact craters all over the earth, and the MOON! It has hundreds! But we barely ever see anything hit it bigger then a grapefruit. It'd be hard to acquire all those craters in a scant 6000 years.
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My question would be, what else are Christians wrong about?
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You haven't even established that they are wrong about the earth being 6,000 years old. So your comment is moot. And your source (Huffpo) is a sewer pipe of distortions, Canucktard.
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Regardless of the irrefutable evidence thrown the way of creationists you lot just stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to accept it and continue with your child-like beliefs.

Actually, I've done a disservice to children there.
There a hell of a lot more open to new ideas than you lot.

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