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Did not belive in Chemtrails until I saw this in the sky

 
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Early November in Michigan. This is just not normal....
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Exactly.. This is what I consider evidence. Some see it as normal. I call that stupid. But it's all IMO.
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But, to those of us who actually understand what we see in the sky, you are stupid.


That's my opinion. And I'm just as entitled to post it here as you are
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NOT NORMAL. And, Noble, you are the "dolt" here, as usual.
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There's nothing about them that's normal, the only thing that's normal is the usual suspects who try to play them off that way. It's an uphill stream and chemtrails are in a boat without a paddle.
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There's nothing about them that's normal, the only thing that's normal is the usual suspects who try to play them off that way. It's an uphill stream and chemtrails are in a boat without a paddle.
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Thanks, aliensbro, for the clarity about the solar maximum/minimum. Really helps with what my understanding of the subject of chemtrails is. Also, not really buying into global warming. Wasn't the last serious solar maximum in 1859 or something when things got bad? Probably as far back as it goes for weather record keeping. Good job today. You had a great argument/debate going.
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So I guess these guys are lieing.I think not
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I've been reading this thread...I get the definite impression that the "chemtrail" folks are definitely way beyond the "theory" stage, what with all the "shill" stuff and all. There seems to be real hatred for those who object to the chemtrail assumption.

Bottom line...contrails have existed since planes have been able to fly at the higher, and colder, flight levels. With the increase in traffic (more small jetliners vs fewer larger jetliners), contrails will naturally increase in frequency. I don't know what effect the preponderance of the newer generation of high bypass turbofans might have in the formation of contrails.

Finally, can anyone tell me if there is any direct evidence that these trails are responsible for material found on the ground...aluminum etc? Are there not any possible terrestrial sources, like cars? (which have also ballooned in numbers around the world)

I don't "believe" in chemtrails. I can follow civil overflights on FlightAware.com, and can ID most military flights by type using binoculars.

If these trails were so deadly, where are the mass die-offs of the population? Seems this is the intent, judging by opinions here.

Nope, just contrails...being blown into a conspiracy by folks who think they have no control over their lives, blaming all their ills on some evil government entity....some sort of Occupy Contrails mentality...

Hang tough, Noble...
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So I guess these guys are lieing.I think not
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Watched the first minute...WHAT ties all this material/pollution with airplanes??? What about all the surface transport vehicles, which has grown enormously, and dwarfs the exhaust output vs jetliners. No mention of how the material is tied to jets...just assumed.

Still no study looking for any source for the pollution...just automatically blaming it on some unsubstantiated "chemtrail" thing.
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OMG...

Jets aren't the only type of engine to create contrails!!

You fucking idiot!

Persistent contrails were a huge problem for fighter pilots in ww2.


All hydrocarbon combustion creates water vapor...you absolute dolt!
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Boiling water creates water vapor too, but it doesn't spread out and form a storm system in your kitchen.
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Oh my fucking Jesus jumping jacked up Christ!!!!

You are an absolute fucking idiot!

If it were -40 and you put that boiling water into the air as a mist...it would look just like the trails. And as long as the humidity in respect to ice, and the temperature stayed that way, the created ice fog would remain. And no trail has ever created a storm, the approaching storm has often created the conditions for contrails.


I'm done for now....that was just THE most pathetic comment I have ever read from a chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


That was an obvious attempt at humor bro, get a personality.
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There are so many people that are trying to waste your energy. Noble was a fantastic example and he did a great job at derailing this thread for many pages. The key to winning at this game is to completely ignore the negativity...I mean that 100% ignore them. Read there vile crap and then let it go...NEVER REPLY TO THEM. Don't feed the animals or they will come back over and over until they have exhausted you.
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[link to i49.tinypic.com]


nearest airport is 100 miles away, kept watching they did another 5 more spins.

Even looked on iphone app plane finder, no commercial aircraft above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28740562


Another way to prove chemtrails is after you see them with your eyes, immediately get on the computer and confirm them on live weather satellite imaging.

They ALWAYS ahead of and behind fronts. It spreads their chemtrails hundreds of miles that way.

They are visible on radar satellite.

That's the reason they fired so many air traffic controllers for 'sleeping on the job'...because they refused to stay quiet.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25915094


They ALWAYS spray ahead of and behind fronts. It spreads their chemtrails hundreds of miles that way. They also use chemtrails to stitch fronts together.

Chemtrails are visible on radar satellite imaging but normal contrails are not. This is because chemtrails are composed of a radar refelective nano-aluminum formula.

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There's nothing about them that's normal, the only thing that's normal is the usual suspects who try to play them off that way. It's an uphill stream and chemtrails are in a boat without a paddle.
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Thanks, aliensbro, for the clarity about the solar maximum/minimum. Really helps with what my understanding of the subject of chemtrails is. Also, not really buying into global warming. Wasn't the last serious solar maximum in 1859 or something when things got bad? Probably as far back as it goes for weather record keeping. Good job today. You had a great argument/debate going.
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Glad to hear praise in atleast one form or another. Solar maximum really isn't all that big of a deal, the sun is just hotter, and produces more and bigger CME's. It's just a period of increased energy in our solar system.
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I've been reading this thread...I get the definite impression that the "chemtrail" folks are definitely way beyond the "theory" stage, what with all the "shill" stuff and all. There seems to be real hatred for those who object to the chemtrail assumption.

Bottom line...contrails have existed since planes have been able to fly at the higher, and colder, flight levels. With the increase in traffic (more small jetliners vs fewer larger jetliners), contrails will naturally increase in frequency. I don't know what effect the preponderance of the newer generation of high bypass turbofans might have in the formation of contrails.

Finally, can anyone tell me if there is any direct evidence that these trails are responsible for material found on the ground...aluminum etc? Are there not any possible terrestrial sources, like cars? (which have also ballooned in numbers around the world)

I don't "believe" in chemtrails. I can follow civil overflights on FlightAware.com, and can ID most military flights by type using binoculars.

If these trails were so deadly, where are the mass die-offs of the population? Seems this is the intent, judging by opinions here.

Nope, just contrails...being blown into a conspiracy by folks who think they have no control over their lives, blaming all their ills on some evil government entity....some sort of Occupy Contrails mentality...

Hang tough, Noble...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28466908


Well they're clearly not deadly. As in cyanide or something along those lines. The idea is that they're harmful. I draw that conclusion because it is very easy for me to find major differences in real clouds and clouds that came from a chemtrail. Therefore, if this happens in front of my eyes, but i'm left with no explanation as to why, I just assume the worst. Especially from government, after 9/11 nothing surprises me.
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Boiling water creates water vapor too, but it doesn't spread out and form a storm system in your kitchen.
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Oh my fucking Jesus jumping jacked up Christ!!!!

You are an absolute fucking idiot!

If it were -40 and you put that boiling water into the air as a mist...it would look just like the trails. And as long as the humidity in respect to ice, and the temperature stayed that way, the created ice fog would remain. And no trail has ever created a storm, the approaching storm has often created the conditions for contrails.


I'm done for now....that was just THE most pathetic comment I have ever read from a chemtard.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


That was an obvious attempt at humor bro, get a personality.
 Quoting: aliensbro


There are so many people that are trying to waste your energy. Noble was a fantastic example and he did a great job at derailing this thread for many pages. The key to winning at this game is to completely ignore the negativity...I mean that 100% ignore them. Read there vile crap and then let it go...NEVER REPLY TO THEM. Don't feed the animals or they will come back over and over until they have exhausted you.
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Yeah and I can't understand WHY! People really hate the idea of chemtrails, but I feel it is very important to spread awareness of them. I can't bring myself to stop trying simply because someone doesn't believe. If anything at all, my intention is to make them think. Someone's gotta be the martyr.
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I remember seeing persistant contrails when I was a kid... that's 40-50 years ago. Mind you, air traffic was notably lighter back then unlike today where everyone seems to fly...could this massive increase in air traffic, with more efficient aircraft flying at higher flightlevels be a possible cause of folks suddenly being aware of them?

Or have chemtrails been a reality for that long?
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I remember seeing persistant contrails when I was a kid... that's 40-50 years ago. Mind you, air traffic was notably lighter back then unlike today where everyone seems to fly...could this massive increase in air traffic, with more efficient aircraft flying at higher flightlevels be a possible cause of folks suddenly being aware of them?

Or have chemtrails been a reality for that long?
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For any crusader of the chemtrail movement, it is blatantly obvious the differences between chemtrails/contrails. No doubt that some trails are just contrails, and those are very easy to point out. I think they've been in place for so long, that people actually believe they're normal. It's all about conditioning.
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I remember seeing persistant contrails when I was a kid... that's 40-50 years ago. Mind you, air traffic was notably lighter back then unlike today where everyone seems to fly...could this massive increase in air traffic, with more efficient aircraft flying at higher flightlevels be a possible cause of folks suddenly being aware of them?

Or have chemtrails been a reality for that long?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28466908


For any crusader of the chemtrail movement, it is blatantly obvious the differences between chemtrails/contrails. No doubt that some trails are just contrails, and those are very easy to point out. I think they've been in place for so long, that people actually believe they're normal. It's all about conditioning.
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please watch this vid

SO IMPORTANT
thanks op for this thread

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: Did not belive in Chemtrails until I saw this in the sky
vid's I just posted are from this thread

thanks to this op

Thread: Chemtrails contain Strontium Barium Niobate, which is used for HOLOGRAPHIC technology. The sky is one big movie screen--GET THE POPCORN!

Chemtrails contain Strontium Barium Niobate, which is used for HOLOGRAPHIC technology. The skys one big movie screen-

keep your eyes open for project blue beam
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^^ Thank you for a source.
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Yep contrails from a plane in a holding pattern. You chemtards are some seriously defective idiots.
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please watch this vid

SO IMPORTANT
thanks op for this thread

[link to www.youtube.com]

[link to www.youtube.com]
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This first video is amazing and is an absolute testiment to our holographic abilities.
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Yep contrails from a plane in a holding pattern. You chemtards are some seriously defective idiots.
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And the twin towers came down from a jetliner crash. Lol.
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Yep contrails from a plane in a holding pattern. You chemtards are some seriously defective idiots.
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And the twin towers came down from a jetliner crash. Lol.
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Yep.
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Yep contrails from a plane in a holding pattern. You chemtards are some seriously defective idiots.
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And the twin towers came down from a jetliner crash. Lol.
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Yep.
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I really hope this is sarcasm. Please do not tell me there are people that are actually that stupid.
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If these trails were so deadly, where are the mass die-offs of the population?
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Oh you fucking stupid retard.
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Early November in Michigan. This is just not normal....
[link to www.flickr.com]
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Exactly.. This is what I consider evidence. Some see it as normal. I call that stupid. But it's all IMO.
 Quoting: aliensbro


But, to those of us who actually understand what we see in the sky, you are stupid.


That's my opinion. And I'm just as entitled to post it here as you are
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NOT NORMAL. And, Noble, you are the "dolt" here, as usual.
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But the problem is, you're just a chemtard, you are in no position to recognize the ignorance of others...you can't recognize your own.
Favorite Karma:


12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Yep contrails from a plane in a holding pattern. You chemtards are some seriously defective idiots.
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And the twin towers came down from a jetliner crash. Lol.
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Yep.
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I really hope this is sarcasm. Please do not tell me there are people that are actually that stupid.
 Quoting: aliensbro


More evidence of your paranoid stupidity and desire to force it onto others.

You don't understand what contrails are...nor do you understand what a progressive collapse is.

There is no evidence that the towers were taken down by anything other than the impact of the planes and resulting fires.

It's you who are stupid for accepting paranoid bullshit as truth...simply because you want to.
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Exactly.. This is what I consider evidence. Some see it as normal. I call that stupid. But it's all IMO.
 Quoting: aliensbro


But, to those of us who actually understand what we see in the sky, you are stupid.


That's my opinion. And I'm just as entitled to post it here as you are
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25792038


NOT NORMAL. And, Noble, you are the "dolt" here, as usual.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


But the problem is, you're just a chemtard, you are in no position to recognize the ignorance of others...you can't recognize your own.
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potkettle
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nearest airport is 100 miles away, kept watching they did another 5 more spins.

Even looked on iphone app plane finder, no commercial aircraft above.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28740562


Another way to prove chemtrails is after you see them with your eyes, immediately get on the computer and confirm them on live weather satellite imaging.

They ALWAYS ahead of and behind fronts. It spreads their chemtrails hundreds of miles that way.

They are visible on radar satellite.

That's the reason they fired so many air traffic controllers for 'sleeping on the job'...because they refused to stay quiet.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25915094


They ALWAYS spray ahead of and behind fronts. It spreads their chemtrails hundreds of miles that way. They also use chemtrails to stitch fronts together.

Chemtrails are visible on radar satellite imaging but normal contrails are not. This is because chemtrails are composed of a radar refelective nano-aluminum formula.

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But, to those of us who actually understand what we see in the sky, you are stupid.


That's my opinion. And I'm just as entitled to post it here as you are
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NOT NORMAL. And, Noble, you are the "dolt" here, as usual.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


But the problem is, you're just a chemtard, you are in no position to recognize the ignorance of others...you can't recognize your own.
 Quoting: Noble


potkettle
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Sorry, this doesn't actually apply considering the fact that I have actually studied the subjects that you obviously (it couldn't be more obvious) have not. I have EVERY scientist who as studied atmospheric science in my side, while you have paranoid losers on your side.

I win.
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Another way to prove chemtrails is after you see them with your eyes, immediately get on the computer and confirm them on live weather satellite imaging.

They ALWAYS ahead of and behind fronts. It spreads their chemtrails hundreds of miles that way.

They are visible on radar satellite.

That's the reason they fired so many air traffic controllers for 'sleeping on the job'...because they refused to stay quiet.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25915094


They ALWAYS spray ahead of and behind fronts. It spreads their chemtrails hundreds of miles that way. They also use chemtrails to stitch fronts together.

Chemtrails are visible on radar satellite imaging but normal contrails are not. This is because chemtrails are composed of a radar refelective nano-aluminum formula.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25915094


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It's funny when morons bump posts of that caliber of stupidity.

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