the truth about pi

thank you good sir

yeah, thought about this also.

it is funny that 'geometry 'literally means measurement of the earth.

so many mathematicians going crazy trying to understand the nature of infinity or of pi

just because they started from the assumption that 'the point' is infinitely small, has no size.

and because of that pi is infinite of course

Last Edited by andreidita on 11/29/2012 07:33 PM

draw an equal sided cube on a sheet of paper.

All lines are the same length...

But when you measure the diagnals on the paper, they are longer. Why?

Because the diagnals on the paper represent the 3d lines of the cube. All the other lines are 2d...the same dimension as the paper itself.

Now...carry that over to Pi

If you draw a diameter (a line) it exists in 1d (left and right).

BUT if you draw a circle...it exists in 2d (left right and up down).

So ask yourself...if, when drawing the cube...we must adjust our perception of length when going from 2d to 3d...

Then why do we not also adust our measurement of length when going from 1d to 2d? i.e. from diameter to curve???

The reason Pi id wrong is because we are measuring it wrong. We make no adjustment for the increase in dimensionality.

If you want to compare apples to apples...envision the diameter as a dime on its side, looking at the thin part. Draw this on the 2d paper and it looks like a line.

Now we can measure it properly because we. like the cube, have adjusted all parts to the same dimension.

Apples to apples. Pi = 2.

Wrong op, just look at the string theory!
Pi exists on all levels!

Get an Avatar and sign up. Nice to read a post that is logical.

The shortest distance between two points is not a straight line. It is a curve. This is why electric current arcs, and why sattelites orbit...it is the path of least resistance.

To traverse a straight line requires acceleration...therefore it requires more effort than the natural shape of a dimension and if you must add acceleration and effort, you are not traveling the shortest path.

The true natural shape of a dimension is a curve.

Curved lines. Circular planes. And cubes.

Agreed.

I mean spheres. oops

+1

nice. so when we draw a line to express the shortest route we refer to a curve in reality.

and the shortest route between the 2 poles of a sphere is a curve on its surface, not the imaginary straight line connecting the poles on the inside

Last Edited by andreidita on 11/29/2012 07:54 PM

Yup. And this is where gravity comes from.

If you hold a long 2x4 in the center...the ends bend downward due to gravity. In reality, what is happening, is that the straight line of the board is accelerating against the curviture of space. The ends of the board violate the curve more than the middle.

Or think of it this way...

if this is a space ship traveling in a straight line:

--------------------->==@>

earth --> O

From Japans viewpoint the ship travelled almost straight down...From Moscow it was parallel overhead...and from New york it went straight up.

Therefore from the circle dimension of earth, the ship did not go in a straight line, it made a U.

It is the satelites that go in a straight line...because they go around the earth. Thats why they feel no affect of gravity in orbit...they never go outside the orbital plane!

classic thinking outside the box. simple and logic. :)

i love the part when all astronomy is based on a simple misunderstanding of the philosophical grounds of the principle of relativity.

that all is relative to the point of the observer.

and they go on and on about the speed of light being constant in the whole universe, when they calculated it just here. and then they go on and calculate the distance of the stars and so on.

and based only on photos they create an entire 'scientific' cosmogony. :)

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Last Edited by andreidita on 11/29/2012 08:26 PM

pi does go on forever.

there is no principle that says an irrational number cannot have an infinite amount of decimal places. pi is merely a ratio that evaluates to an irrational number.

there is no principle that says a function cannot result in an infinite amount of results. it can continue producing results forever. therefore a function may produce an infinitely long curve.

there probably is some geometric proof buried in a book saying that the ratio of circumference to diameter (pi) is a perfectly irrational number. that would have an infinite number of decimal places.

this is easy to understand. you are only making too much out of it.

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doom?

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pi, tell us more about pi.

one halloween we carved the pi symbol into the pumpkin -

pumpkin pi.


A few trick or treaters got it.

some call it GOD and make religions

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good one

I love your post.

I spent years studying Calculus and can calculate curves, but I clearly understand your point. We try to reduce a curve to an infinite number of triangles. Triangles are not curves.

You state this so clearly & simply.

Thank You.

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Clear logical thought is rare.

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