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op User ID: 21979291 United States 11/29/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is wondering which college degree to major in. She has taken all the different aptitude tests. They were no help. School guidance counselors were no help either. Quoting: help 21775415 She gets straight As in all subjects. She is extremely talented in piano. She is leaning towards becoming ananesthesiologist. But is worried about how obamacare will affect the medical profession. Please only give positive replies. Thanks for he help. Assuming she's a soon-to-be or recent HS graduate? :-) Have her pursue a degree track that will keep her in school, funded, for the next 8-12 years (Bachelors to Masters to Dual Masters/Doctoral). Before that, she'll most likely have a hard time securing comfortable employment in just about anything. Besides, taking the potential effects of socializing medicine much further, the entire traditional power structure is in so much flux right now - both here and abroad - who the hell knows what the situation will be in 4 years, or 8, or 12! Better to stay in school than spin her tires in a broken world. Oh, and academics are usually protected from military drafts, should one occur ;-) Doesn't matter if all of her funding is in the form of federal loans, the more the better! Continue to roll them together year over year, most schools will figure something out if she's a qualified and determined candidate. As much as they'll give you. Within the next 12 years, SOMEONE is going to figure out how not to cripple our students - it's got to happen, and it will. Let her be the beneficiary of the future, not crushed by the present. Delay. Delay. Delay. Borrow. Borrow. Borrow. Learn. Learn. Learn. Use the university system as a protected harbor from the mountain of CRAP that is currently, seemingly, everywhere. Give the girl 12 years of education, research, and academia...if things aren't any better by then, well...you bought her as much time as you could :-) As for degree program, stay general, float. See what happens as the next few years unfold. Stay agile. Be ready to jump on new opportunities. The world's a changin'... And here's the million dollar tip (sssshhhhh) - if she's having trouble being accepted by the school of her choice, have her re-apply with a stated major of Jewish Studies. The 3 FREAKING PEOPLE that apply every year are basically rubber stamped with acceptance, from UoPhoenix to Uo-Harvard. Then, once she's in, she can change to whatever as the semesters progress and her track record as a student builds. Just like that you're in - poof, Houdini style ;-) [youtube] Is the Jewish thing true? I like most all of ur advice except the borrowing part. Why do u recommend that? Because it's not your money ;-) Federal grants. Scholarships. Federal Loans. Take them all. Whatever they'll give you. And the higher up you go in your studies, the more of these there'll be at her disposal - less competition, more specialization. If she can make it 12 years at a semi-top-tier university, your daughter's life will be a most pleasant one. And yes, the Jewish thing works, but it's just one example. Any degree program struggling to recruit students is the one you'll most likely get in with :-) Thank you so much. |
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op User ID: 21979291 United States 11/29/2012 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blow off college and go to a technical school. Auto mechanics, HVAC, plumbing, computer programming, etc. You can work for a company and also do side work for extra bucks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 992971 Yes, this is often overlooked and underappreciated by today's HS graduates, especially the ones who are pushed through the process :-( Parents want their kids to be doctors and lawyers and businessmen, when many are simply not right for the role. And it's not a bad thing, it's a human thing. They never should have removed votech training from high schools. I've seen kids who SUCK at math, and who SUCK at writing, and who were always viewed as poor students, walk into an electrical course and kick - it's - ass! Natural talent and thought process for the role. Those kids will make quite a bit of money doing what they do well. But you don't get all the other benefits of higher academia that I talked about above. It's a different life altogether. Again, not worse or better, different :-) Personally, I'd rather bet on the future, than the present. Agreed |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1184364 United States 11/29/2012 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anasthesiologists will always have jobs. Musicians can be some of the best in the world and barely make a dime. Obamacare will increase the number of insured which means more paying work. Quoting: Fred 1838479 More patients at 1/10 the pay...in other words 16 hour days x 7 days a week for the same pay as Shaquanda at the local Popeye's fried chicken restaurant. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28544505 Ireland 11/29/2012 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NONE it is a waste of time, money and life. they are no more than overpriced participation awards now anyway, with a side of socialist / communist indoctrination. have her go after and learn SKILLS.. many types of skills, even get a few certifications. These will be of far more use to her that a piece of paper that any inner city ghetto queen can get. seriously... skills, its whats for dinner. Foster an entrepreneurial streak as well. Teach her to be self reliant and NOT a part of the machine. |
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K. Trout User ID: 4135559 United States 11/29/2012 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NONE Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28544505 it is a waste of time, money and life. they are no more than overpriced participation awards now anyway, with a side of socialist / communist indoctrination. have her go after and learn SKILLS.. many types of skills, even get a few certifications. These will be of far more use to her that a piece of paper that any inner city ghetto queen can get. seriously... skills, its whats for dinner. Foster an entrepreneurial streak as well. Teach her to be self reliant and NOT a part of the machine. Way too broad a generalization For some things you're right. For others your wrong. I agree with the skilled trade argument, though...will always be a need, past present and future...natural aptitude, creativity, and hard work can provide just as strong a financial base in these fields as in any other. When you're good, you're good. - Me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 97102 United States 11/29/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree math, science or medicine..nursing is very lucrative right now; except lower paid assistants are slowly pushing them out. hmmmm...definitely NOT law. So many people I know hate their degree and are now stuck. math, or BETTER YET accounting!!! CPA - makes a killing and if you only do taxes you can work 6 months of the year ONLY! good life choice for time |
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Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 11/29/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My daughter is wondering which college degree to major in. She has taken all the different aptitude tests. They were no help. School guidance counselors were no help either. Quoting: help 21775415 She gets straight As in all subjects. She is extremely talented in piano. She is leaning towards becoming ananesthesiologist. But is worried about how obamacare will affect the medical profession. Please only give positive replies. Thanks for he help. Agri-Science. Community Farming is going to get much bigger than it is now when Obama's economics, for the coming decade or longer, force people to have to buy local goods. Scaling these food production sources for the future will take some engineering and expertise. [link to www.american-school-search.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28544505 Ireland 11/29/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: K. Trout Assuming she's a soon-to-be or recent HS graduate? :-) Have her pursue a degree track that will keep her in school, funded, for the next 8-12 years (Bachelors to Masters to Dual Masters/Doctoral). Before that, she'll most likely have a hard time securing comfortable employment in just about anything. Besides, taking the potential effects of socializing medicine much further, the entire traditional power structure is in so much flux right now - both here and abroad - who the hell knows what the situation will be in 4 years, or 8, or 12! Better to stay in school than spin her tires in a broken world. Oh, and academics are usually protected from military drafts, should one occur ;-) Doesn't matter if all of her funding is in the form of federal loans, the more the better! Continue to roll them together year over year, most schools will figure something out if she's a qualified and determined candidate. As much as they'll give you. Within the next 12 years, SOMEONE is going to figure out how not to cripple our students - it's got to happen, and it will. Let her be the beneficiary of the future, not crushed by the present. Delay. Delay. Delay. Borrow. Borrow. Borrow. Learn. Learn. Learn. Use the university system as a protected harbor from the mountain of CRAP that is currently, seemingly, everywhere. Give the girl 12 years of education, research, and academia...if things aren't any better by then, well...you bought her as much time as you could :-) As for degree program, stay general, float. See what happens as the next few years unfold. Stay agile. Be ready to jump on new opportunities. The world's a changin'... And here's the million dollar tip (sssshhhhh) - if she's having trouble being accepted by the school of her choice, have her re-apply with a stated major of Jewish Studies. The 3 FREAKING PEOPLE that apply every year are basically rubber stamped with acceptance, from UoPhoenix to Uo-Harvard. Then, once she's in, she can change to whatever as the semesters progress and her track record as a student builds. Just like that you're in - poof, Houdini style ;-) [youtube] Is the Jewish thing true? I like most all of ur advice except the borrowing part. Why do u recommend that? Because it's not your money ;-) Federal grants. Scholarships. Federal Loans. Take them all. Whatever they'll give you. And the higher up you go in your studies, the more of these there'll be at her disposal - less competition, more specialization. If she can make it 12 years at a semi-top-tier university, your daughter's life will be a most pleasant one. And yes, the Jewish thing works, but it's just one example. Any degree program struggling to recruit students is the one you'll most likely get in with :-) what a joke.. not only that after 12 years in acadaemia she will come out further left than fidel castro. What a fuckin joke. foolishness. Look around.. how many degrees are flipping burgers. it is a dead end now, every welfare queen has a "masters degree" in minority womens studies and 100K in debt with not a speck of real knowledge between them all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1184364 United States 11/29/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately OP, and you won't like hearing this (the truth sometimes stings), but it really doesn't matter what she goes to school for since the country is broke and with the continued unrestrained spending and borrowing (money that can never be re-paid) our children have inherited the bleakest future this country has ever faced. Jobs are being outsourced overseas at a record pace, the wealthy business owners are demonized by the press (who ironically and hypocritically are wealthy themselves) and are fleeing this country for safe havens. Spread the Wealth really translates to Spread the Poverty. In the coming turbulent times, practical skills will be the most valuable. One poster said "they'll" figure it out in 12 years, so just keep borrowing and stay a "professional student". I wish I had that kind of optimism, but I honestly see it getting worse not better (a lot worse). |
mayhem User ID: 18769413 United States 11/29/2012 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong answer, do not have your daughter go into law. My cousin is an attorney (ambulance chaser), he said the labor pool is being flooded by the wave of people coming out w/ law degrees and there aren't enough jobs. He has several young attorneys on his payroll not even making 40k. Not law, I mean unless you want her to be able to pay back her loans and not live in the room where her bassinet was until she's 40. [link to articles.chicagotribune.com] [link to www.thebestdegrees.org] |
Alexander User ID: 15635858 United States 11/29/2012 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | medicine.. RN makes around $35 an hour and with overtime time and half... meaning they can easily make up to $100,000 a year. In addition they get full medical, dental (in most places), vacation, etc benefits worth about another 30% of their salary. RNs can work anywhere - meaning the job is mobile and flexible. Traveling contract nurses make much more and can live in an RV to cut overhead. Ananesthesiologist is good too and the hours are generally day during the week. Is she a people person? This particular profession puts people out. Not to much interaction with patients and lots of time in the Operating Room. The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill Daily Updates Thread: ASS IS IN THE WRINGER - Rolling Updates from 11/16/20 to present (Page 235) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28544505 Ireland 11/29/2012 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NONE Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28544505 it is a waste of time, money and life. they are no more than overpriced participation awards now anyway, with a side of socialist / communist indoctrination. have her go after and learn SKILLS.. many types of skills, even get a few certifications. These will be of far more use to her that a piece of paper that any inner city ghetto queen can get. seriously... skills, its whats for dinner. Foster an entrepreneurial streak as well. Teach her to be self reliant and NOT a part of the machine. Way too broad a generalization For some things you're right. For others your wrong. I agree with the skilled trade argument, though...will always be a need, past present and future...natural aptitude, creativity, and hard work can provide just as strong a financial base in these fields as in any other. When you're good, you're good. No i am not wrong.. I am 45 years old, I have plenty of friends and acquaintances with degrees.. from BAs to doctorates in law, justice and medicine. I am the only one who can consistently find good paying work. I have real skills and they are desperately needed now due to the lack of real skills because a piece of paper was substituted for them. I consistently make more in compensation than they do and keep it coming in. I am not wrong... there is the issue of the communist indoctrination as well. I have a 20 year old daughter that I taght these thing to all her life. She has been on her own for 3 years and doing very well.. has saved tens of thousands and is looking for a home of her own soon.. not a room in mine. How many here can say that??? skills, real skills.. solid useful skills will feed her. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28544505 Ireland 11/29/2012 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately OP, and you won't like hearing this (the truth sometimes stings), but it really doesn't matter what she goes to school for since the country is broke and with the continued unrestrained spending and borrowing (money that can never be re-paid) our children have inherited the bleakest future this country has ever faced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184364 Jobs are being outsourced overseas at a record pace, the wealthy business owners are demonized by the press (who ironically and hypocritically are wealthy themselves) and are fleeing this country for safe havens. Spread the Wealth really translates to Spread the Poverty. In the coming turbulent times, practical skills will be the most valuable. One poster said "they'll" figure it out in 12 years, so just keep borrowing and stay a "professional student". I wish I had that kind of optimism, but I honestly see it getting worse not better (a lot worse). ^^^^^^^^ sense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13148801 United States 11/29/2012 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately OP, and you won't like hearing this (the truth sometimes stings), but it really doesn't matter what she goes to school for since the country is broke and with the continued unrestrained spending and borrowing (money that can never be re-paid) our children have inherited the bleakest future this country has ever faced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184364 Jobs are being outsourced overseas at a record pace, the wealthy business owners are demonized by the press (who ironically and hypocritically are wealthy themselves) and are fleeing this country for safe havens. Spread the Wealth really translates to Spread the Poverty. In the coming turbulent times, practical skills will be the most valuable. One poster said "they'll" figure it out in 12 years, so just keep borrowing and stay a "professional student". I wish I had that kind of optimism, but I honestly see it getting worse not better (a lot worse). The bank I work for hires on average 6 new people every single Monday. Go to Indeed.com, put in BNP Paribas and New York. Its only hick ass towns like the one you live in that have no jobs. Were only one bank of hundreds on one small island too. |
Anonymous 1342725 User ID: 1342725 United States 11/29/2012 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wrong answer, do not have your daughter go into law. My cousin is an attorney (ambulance chaser), he said the labor pool is being flooded by the wave of people coming out w/ law degrees and there aren't enough jobs. He has several young attorneys on his payroll not even making 40k. Not law, I mean unless you want her to be able to pay back her loans and not live in the room where her bassinet was unt a il she's 40. [link to articles.chicagotribune.com] [link to www.thebestdegrees.org] Yeah, okay. Your cousin got into a career he isn't made for. Anonymous 1342725 |
Mr. Predictor Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1032780 United States 11/29/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | worst advice ever !!!! plan on supporting yourself with your degree try engineering "If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28544505 Ireland 11/29/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately OP, and you won't like hearing this (the truth sometimes stings), but it really doesn't matter what she goes to school for since the country is broke and with the continued unrestrained spending and borrowing (money that can never be re-paid) our children have inherited the bleakest future this country has ever faced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184364 Jobs are being outsourced overseas at a record pace, the wealthy business owners are demonized by the press (who ironically and hypocritically are wealthy themselves) and are fleeing this country for safe havens. Spread the Wealth really translates to Spread the Poverty. In the coming turbulent times, practical skills will be the most valuable. One poster said "they'll" figure it out in 12 years, so just keep borrowing and stay a "professional student". I wish I had that kind of optimism, but I honestly see it getting worse not better (a lot worse). The bank I work for hires on average 6 new people every single Monday. Go to Indeed.com, put in BNP Paribas and New York. Its only hick ass towns like the one you live in that have no jobs. Were only one bank of hundreds on one small island too. Yeah.. but who the fuck wants to live in that stinkin commie cesspool?.. no one with any sense. |
K. Trout User ID: 4135559 United States 11/29/2012 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: op 21667013 [youtube] Is the Jewish thing true? I like most all of ur advice except the borrowing part. Why do u recommend that? Because it's not your money ;-) Federal grants. Scholarships. Federal Loans. Take them all. Whatever they'll give you. And the higher up you go in your studies, the more of these there'll be at her disposal - less competition, more specialization. If she can make it 12 years at a semi-top-tier university, your daughter's life will be a most pleasant one. And yes, the Jewish thing works, but it's just one example. Any degree program struggling to recruit students is the one you'll most likely get in with :-) what a joke.. not only that after 12 years in acadaemia she will come out further left than fidel castro. What a fuckin joke. foolishness. Look around.. how many degrees are flipping burgers. it is a dead end now, every welfare queen has a "masters degree" in minority womens studies and 100K in debt with not a speck of real knowledge between them all. Not the case, and curiously bitter. For some people, in some situations, an immediate career and cash flow is the goal. They need to go one way. And there IS a very right way to do that, even considering the current shitty state of affairs. For others, however, life can go a different way. Higher education isn't picking from a menu of available professions. It's for creating new professions. - Me |
Burt Gummer User ID: 7702124 United States 11/29/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately OP, and you won't like hearing this (the truth sometimes stings), but it really doesn't matter what she goes to school for since the country is broke and with the continued unrestrained spending and borrowing (money that can never be re-paid) our children have inherited the bleakest future this country has ever faced. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1184364 Jobs are being outsourced overseas at a record pace, the wealthy business owners are demonized by the press (who ironically and hypocritically are wealthy themselves) and are fleeing this country for safe havens. Spread the Wealth really translates to Spread the Poverty. In the coming turbulent times, practical skills will be the most valuable. One poster said "they'll" figure it out in 12 years, so just keep borrowing and stay a "professional student". I wish I had that kind of optimism, but I honestly see it getting worse not better (a lot worse). MUCH MUCH MUCH truth to that post above. Hence why stated I this....which I am repeating. Agri-Science. Community Farming is going to get much bigger than it is now when Obama's economics, for the coming decade or longer, force people to have to buy local goods. Scaling these food production sources for the future will take some engineering and expertise. [link to www.american-school-search.com] Coming soon....... Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 11/29/2012 10:07 PM |
K. Trout User ID: 4135559 United States 11/29/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NONE Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28544505 it is a waste of time, money and life. they are no more than overpriced participation awards now anyway, with a side of socialist / communist indoctrination. have her go after and learn SKILLS.. many types of skills, even get a few certifications. These will be of far more use to her that a piece of paper that any inner city ghetto queen can get. seriously... skills, its whats for dinner. Foster an entrepreneurial streak as well. Teach her to be self reliant and NOT a part of the machine. Way too broad a generalization For some things you're right. For others your wrong. I agree with the skilled trade argument, though...will always be a need, past present and future...natural aptitude, creativity, and hard work can provide just as strong a financial base in these fields as in any other. When you're good, you're good. No i am not wrong.. I am 45 years old, I have plenty of friends and acquaintances with degrees.. from BAs to doctorates in law, justice and medicine. I am the only one who can consistently find good paying work. I have real skills and they are desperately needed now due to the lack of real skills because a piece of paper was substituted for them. I consistently make more in compensation than they do and keep it coming in. I am not wrong... there is the issue of the communist indoctrination as well. I have a 20 year old daughter that I taght these thing to all her life. She has been on her own for 3 years and doing very well.. has saved tens of thousands and is looking for a home of her own soon.. not a room in mine. How many here can say that??? skills, real skills.. solid useful skills will feed her. First off, congrats on your age. Not sure how it's relevant, but ok, 45. Not arguing that your route is quickest to an immediate paycheck and stability. If that's what one is looking for. - Me |
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