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Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?

 
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A persons faith is simply a by-product of ones surroundings, heritage, cultural upbringing, etc... If by chance a person had been raised in the jungle by a tribe that worships the sun, then his faith would be in the sun. How can there be only one true faith when this sun faith would be considered by him, to be the one true faith?
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These people are really rare, I mean really rare. 2000 years ago 1/70th of humanity was monotheistic. Today it is well over 80%. Your question is one of detachment and belongs to that time of 2000 years ago. Today, all the information has been given to you (don't worry about the few tribesmen) worry about yourself. My faith has very little to do with my culture. I grew up in an inactive Christian culture that now has very little to do to my faith.
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"thou shalt fear thy God: for I am the LORD your God."

- Leviticus 25:17


These religtards don't even know their own "faith".
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As it is written, fear is the beginning of wisdom. Where does that leave one who does not yet fear? Unwise.... According to scripture.
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Faith is a ridiculously dangerous concept.
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It is not for the fearfully Godless types. Faith is what built this nation to what it was, and it is the Godless and faithless that are destroying it now. Just sit back and watch, and remember, I told you so.
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Exactly what am I afraid of?

If I was afraid of eternal barbecues I would be a religitard like you.

As a matter of fact, your "god" demands that you FEAR him at all times.

You're the only one living in fear moron.
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Your the one who posted "dangerous" It equates to fear. And I do not believe in religion for they are all full of crap to varying degrees. I do not fear anything, including death.
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A persons faith is simply a by-product of ones surroundings, heritage, cultural upbringing, etc... If by chance a person had been raised in the jungle by a tribe that worships the sun, then his faith would be in the sun. How can there be only one true faith when this sun faith would be considered by him, to be the one true faith?
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These people are really rare, I mean really rare. 2000 years ago 1/70th of humanity was monotheistic. Today it is well over 80%. Your question is one of detachment and belongs to that time of 2000 years ago. Today, all the information has been given to you (don't worry about the few tribesmen) worry about yourself. My faith has very little to do with my culture. I grew up in an inactive Christian culture that now has very little to do to my faith.
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Translation: STOP USING YOUR BRAIN AND OBEY LIKE A GOOD MINDLESS SLAVE
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"thou shalt fear thy God: for I am the LORD your God."


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The translation of the bible is wrong.... purposely.
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Faith is defined as believing in something without any absolute proof.

Even you religious folk can admit that other false religions have millions of people tied to them based on this "virtue" of "faith".

Faith is a ridiculously dangerous concept.
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Nope that is a belief system. Faith is PERSONAL and growing in nature. Living Faith is LIVED, it is PRACTICED and it GROWS in spiritual meaning for the person. Blind Faith is what you are talking about, and that is "beliefs". beliefs are always conjecture, and never knowing.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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Faith is a ridiculously dangerous concept.
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It is not for the fearfully Godless types. Faith is what built this nation to what it was, and it is the Godless and faithless that are destroying it now. Just sit back and watch, and remember, I told you so.
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Exactly what am I afraid of?

If I was afraid of eternal barbecues I would be a religitard like you.

As a matter of fact, your "god" demands that you FEAR him at all times.

You're the only one living in fear moron.
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Your the one who posted "dangerous" It equates to fear. And I do not believe in religion for they are all full of crap to varying degrees. I do not fear anything, including death.
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Good point. I really shouldn't give a shit about these idiots.

I should attempt to appreciate the fact that without mindless slaves, there couldn't be free thinkers.

It's very little consolation though.
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Translation: STOP USING YOUR BRAIN AND OBEY LIKE A GOOD MINDLESS SLAVE
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How do you figure "mindless slave" when God gives you free will to live by the limited mind, or the limitless spirit. Are you 12?
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A persons faith is simply a by-product of ones surroundings, heritage, cultural upbringing, etc... If by chance a person had been raised in the jungle by a tribe that worships the sun, then his faith would be in the sun. How can there be only one true faith when this sun faith would be considered by him, to be the one true faith?
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These people are really rare, I mean really rare. 2000 years ago 1/70th of humanity was monotheistic. Today it is well over 80%. Your question is one of detachment and belongs to that time of 2000 years ago. Today, all the information has been given to you (don't worry about the few tribesmen) worry about yourself. My faith has very little to do with my culture. I grew up in an inactive Christian culture that now has very little to do to my faith.
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I believe you have missed the point of my post. The same would apply to ANY faith. Christian, muslim, hindu etc... All of these people in there respective faiths, believe that theirs is the one true faith.
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Faith is defined as believing in something without any absolute proof.

Even you religious folk can admit that other false religions have millions of people tied to them based on this "virtue" of "faith".

Faith is a ridiculously dangerous concept.
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Nope that is a belief system. Faith is PERSONAL and growing in nature. Living Faith is LIVED, it is PRACTICED and it GROWS in spiritual meaning for the person. Blind Faith is what you are talking about, and that is "beliefs". beliefs are always conjecture, and never knowing.
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"Faith is belief in a god or gods or in the doctrines or teachings of the religion."

Taken straight from Wikipedia. Stop being a semantics Nazi.
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Let's spin the wheel of chance and find out which deity I will place my "faith" into!

Blind servitude is fun!
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blind setviture is not living Faith. The thugs are taking the word Faith and making it belief systems, which it can never be. Faith is a living knowing that is PERSONAL. It is between the person and the God within. And that is totally forgotten and unknown in these sad days. People were healed by then because of their FAITH, as there was no christian church then, it was from inner KNOWING that their faith made the whole. Modern churches are bastardizing the word.

True faith is liberating. These ones running around misusing the word faith, as meaning a church or system, are imprisoned in their worlds. Look at the meaning of these words " I have lost faith in xxxxx". This means that at one point the person HAD FAITH in something, whatever it might be. Sometimes a person says I have lost faith in my husband..... This means the person once had faith in their husband, does that help clarify?

Religious doctrines are not faith, and Jesus and other masters never start belief systems, which can never be anything of Faith.

I have faith, that the sun will rise tomorrow. I don't have a belief that it will rise tomorrow.

Today somebody said the straight and narrow road is the Catholic Church. No the straight and narrow road always comes about in personal Faith, and never a belief system.

Jesus NEVER EVER TAUGHT "BLIND FAITH". Faith comes from reason and experience. It is always PERSONAL. I also have faith that our party system will never be of god, as it is a dividing system. I have faith that once Man knows what faith is as to his relationship with God, in large numbers, this world will grow up. This world well never amount to anything, until person faith becomes the standard, as to anything worthy and it result from the work with the God within. God still lives in the sky to most people and is a loving bastard, Go figure.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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Translation: STOP USING YOUR BRAIN AND OBEY LIKE A GOOD MINDLESS SLAVE
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How do you figure "mindless slave" when God gives you free will to live by the limited mind, or the limitless spirit. Are you 12?
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Funny you mention that, because your GOD COMMANDS you to act like you're twelve.

"I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." - Matthew 18:3

Seems you're doing a pretty good job of it too.

How arrogant you are to claim to know what God will give and what He will take away.
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True faith is liberating.
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Spoken like a true cult member.
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True faith is liberating.
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Spoken like a true cult member.
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beloved go back and read the post, I added greatly to it. I am no cult member, I am a very liberated individual.

Cults are not faiths as to the meaning of the word, for faith is totally a personal experience. Blind faith is totally another animal and this cults members do engage in.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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True faith is liberating.
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Spoken like a true cult member.
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beloved go back and read the post, I added greatly to it. I am no cult member, I am a very liberated individual.
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You believe Jesus actually existed. Therefore you are in a cult of personality whether you realize it or not.
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A persons faith is simply a by-product of ones surroundings, heritage, cultural upbringing, etc... If by chance a person had been raised in the jungle by a tribe that worships the sun, then his faith would be in the sun. How can there be only one true faith when this sun faith would be considered by him, to be the one true faith?
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These people are really rare, I mean really rare. 2000 years ago 1/70th of humanity was monotheistic. Today it is well over 80%. Your question is one of detachment and belongs to that time of 2000 years ago. Today, all the information has been given to you (don't worry about the few tribesmen) worry about yourself. My faith has very little to do with my culture. I grew up in an inactive Christian culture that now has very little to do to my faith.
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I believe you have missed the point of my post. The same would apply to ANY faith. Christian, muslim, hindu etc... All of these people in there respective faiths, believe that theirs is the one true faith.
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Some 'faiths' like Buddhism aren't linked to faith because what they call God is not a person. Monotheistic faiths have grown from 1/70th of the Earth's population to over 80%. From whom have they taken over? From mostly polytheistic faiths like Hinduism and paganism. Slowly monotheism has filled the Earth & replaced polytheism. My point is that the message of the one true faith has come out and we will be accountable for what we did with that knowledge whether we decided to trash it or take it to heart. Personalize this (What is the one true faith? Show me God) instead of deflecting onto some poor tribesman who worships the sun like the majority of the world did 2000 years ago. I think God has always been aware of those exceptions. Worry about yourself, have a genuine self-interest.
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True faith is liberating.
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Spoken like a true cult member.
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beloved go back and read the post, I added greatly to it. I am no cult member, I am a very liberated individual.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


You believe Jesus actually existed. Therefore you are in a cult of personality whether you realize it or not.
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Beloved, I chat with him every day. I also visit his ship often. I sit often in his presence, we share at a table. He is very real. And returned. and he never taught the shit that is in the churches nor did he start a church. He and together founded the 2nd Coming Organization AbundantHope. We are not a belief system, we are the group that is going to govern this planet into the stage of LIght and Life. I have a large global embodied crew/team and we all are involved in making the plans upcoming for this world. Religion has nothing to do with it.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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Worry about yourself, have a genuine self-interest.
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Apparently religitards are only serving their master because they desire the riches of heaven, or they're scared of being tossed into an eternal barbecue.

I'm sure your god will look favorably on your obsession with "self-interest" and "worrying about yourself".
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Spoken like a true cult member.
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beloved go back and read the post, I added greatly to it. I am no cult member, I am a very liberated individual.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


You believe Jesus actually existed. Therefore you are in a cult of personality whether you realize it or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


Beloved, I chat with him every day. I also visit his ship often. I sit often in his presence, we share at a table. He is very real. And returned. and he never taught the shit that is in the churches nor did he start a church. He and together founded the 2nd Coming Organization AbundantHope. We are not a belief system, we are the group that is going to govern this planet into the stage of LIght and Life. I have a large global embodied crew/team and we all are involved in making the plans upcoming for this world. Religion has nothing to do with it.
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I actually respect your delusions more than normal religious folk, because at least your mind believes it has experienced proof firsthand.

Good on you. Tell your Jesus to burn all the Bibles in existence. Take out the Koran and Torah while your at it.
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beloved go back and read the post, I added greatly to it. I am no cult member, I am a very liberated individual.
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You believe Jesus actually existed. Therefore you are in a cult of personality whether you realize it or not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


Beloved, I chat with him every day. I also visit his ship often. I sit often in his presence, we share at a table. He is very real. And returned. and he never taught the shit that is in the churches nor did he start a church. He and together founded the 2nd Coming Organization AbundantHope. We are not a belief system, we are the group that is going to govern this planet into the stage of LIght and Life. I have a large global embodied crew/team and we all are involved in making the plans upcoming for this world. Religion has nothing to do with it.
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I actually respect your delusions more than normal religious folk, because at least your mind believes it has experienced proof firsthand.

Good on you. Tell your Jesus to burn all the Bibles in existence. Take out the Koran and Torah while your at it.
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I think people may do that themselves who understand the upcoming teaching period after the 3 Days of Darkness, during which the thugs will removed and that is going to include a lot of the false ministry We are going live on TV at that point, when the 3 days are over.

If they don't toss those books in the trash, they might read and see the parts where they were bamboozled by the lies inserted and the lies taught around the parts of truth in it. There will be much wailing, I promise you.

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The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
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“Faith is not needed where certainty exists.” Betty Brogaard

"Faith is often the boast of the man who is too lazy to investigate." F.M. Knowles.

“Faith is to the Christian what sand is to the ostrich.” Anon

"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence." --Richard Dawkins
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We hope UNTO salvation.

Hope is our helmet of our armor pieces.

Our armor is lights count the pieces there are 6 one is not unto us.

The 7th is the cloak of zeal and this we have not unto our selves. It is the Lord's only we judge not nor execute judgment. The Lord is King of His Kingdom we are His possessions He created us even a new He makes and fashions us He possess. We always know this is the Potter and we love Him and are hooked on Him bound heart unto Him and Mind unto...Who loved us first.

So basically to cut to the chase Faith is the substance of things Hoped for.

Faith comes as we seek those things we are hoping unto or for...

We are to seek the things of the kingdom before all other things ...first and foremost.....Because The Lord Jesus Christ told us to.

We are given a measure of Faith it is not of our selves or we would be talking the talk like you and many others....of unbelief and even disgust and annoyance at others belief.

Faith is a gift unto those who were dead blind dead the ears were opened and the heart was fallowed by the Lord to deliver us the His seed of Faith.

This first gift comes only by His Grace His favor His choice He chooses to show mercy to whom he shows mercy.

This first gift is the Light of Life that Word of God the Gospel we received by hearing it.

We continue on new born from here with out hardly any knowledge any greater than that One Pearl of Great Price and Seed it is...but like a pearl it must be built open.

Layer upon layer we continue on in the Word of God seeking Him to know Him and to know and understand the things of the kingdom ....we are Hoping unto such as this to come to receive this that we have not as of yet received but still are striving unto and for it in the Word.

That is why We Hope unto Salvation glory to glory renewing and building up our Most Holy Faith.....and this is the Seed we first were sowed in our hearts our Pearl of Great Cost.

This is The Faith of Christ not the faith of me the believer but the measure given unto me was Light of Life Himself His quickening His entering inside our hearts and from there our minds through His by Him who is Spirit into us our body is a vessel for Him to enter into.
Which gives us spirit newness of life in newness of spirit I was dead before but now I live I was lost but now found blind but now see.

Yet I see like into a dark glass dimly because my seed is light but must be added unto or it will grow dim and out.
I add and abound in and unto what I was given in which was that first measure of The faith of Jesus Christ.

Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by The Word of God and these words are spirit and life. So I eat my bread daily and wait upon the Lord patiently. The Lord ministers all our needs unto us by His Will and His Way or time and methods.


So we do what the Lord told us to do we pray...
Our Father who are in heaven hallowed by Thy Name thy Kingdom come Thy Will be done in earth as it is in heaven...give us this day our daily bread.
The Name The Father gives unto us is Jesus Christ we ask all things in Him His name.

And all our Light comes from the father of lights all 6 points of light comes from Him. These are the pieces of growing and abounding in maturity to fullness of...light all 6 points of light.

We have no head of our self....Christ is our head our authority He is the 7th Light He is the Lord even the Lord of Hosts all His host He creates and fashions and names us .

He is the light of our head the God of Hope sowed in our hearts is the Light that girds and garlands our heads with His faith we entrust all into.

Like the candle stick it has 3 candles fed oil like a vine on the R and 3 on the L....but that 7Th Light is Him who lives in us...He abides in us the fullness of the godhead is He our Faith.

We can read the Word of God until our eyes pop out...but with out the Oil in our lamps our body we shall not see God....nor see the path we follow and walk.
We will search out all things for to make us wise and just become as fools. Mans understanding is foolishness unto God.
They are as fools not seeing not knowing not understanding God nor the power of Him in those scriptures His Word.

I would be a devil straight out of the pits of hell if it was not for the Lord....if He had not of Give me Him own self and this mercy unto me which became my faith.

I probably would have already been incarcerated for brutal acts because I was evil...not sexually but barbarically Rage Wrath and Vengeance ...was my ways of mind and heart.

This is Spirit not flesh and visible so there for flesh and natural can not enter into such things nor can they obtain such things..

That is Why we must be born again by and through the Gospel..so we can be quickened to life and continue abiding in that life by remaining in Him our Vine.

Any one who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved...they will have a breast plate of gold...His gold tired in the fire proved True and Faithful to never leave us or allow any one or things to take us out of His hand.
Our hearts are purified like gold....by the Truth the Word of God that Spirit of Truth in our hearts renewing our minds.
We sell it not we do not ever sell our Master....ever He is our most precious One our darling our life.

Only the pure in heart shall see God but no eyes of flesh shall look upon Him or behold His glory.

The Lord if God and there is none other like Him for He is Pure Love the Father of Light is He who is the Light of Life eternal father is He who we love.
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Worry about yourself, have a genuine self-interest.
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Apparently religitards are only serving their master because they desire the riches of heaven, or they're scared of being tossed into an eternal barbecue.

I'm sure your god will look favorably on your obsession with "self-interest" and "worrying about yourself".
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If you serve the right Master, you will serve others.
'When did I see you in prison and visited you - when you visited the least of my brothers.

Self-interest is the commonality that binds all men (don't pretend you don't have it when it's a part of all of our natures). We come to God out of self-interest, He transforms us slowly through faith and we become useful to others.

People who think they are selfless very often get discouraged with good works when they realize that their values (no God, no rewards, no Eternity, faith in humanity) don't line up with the thanklessness and utter godlessness that they may encounter. They may encounter occasional encouragement and then shut themselves up quicker than you can say Ebenezer Scrooge.

Discourage faith in others and you are discouraging good works for years to come. Is it worth it? Especially if a friend or relative of yours might come on this receiving end of faith?
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11/29/2012 09:06 PM
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Re: Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?
Worry about yourself, have a genuine self-interest.
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Apparently religitards are only serving their master because they desire the riches of heaven, or they're scared of being tossed into an eternal barbecue.

I'm sure your god will look favorably on your obsession with "self-interest" and "worrying about yourself".
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If you serve the right Master, you will serve others.
'When did I see you in prison and visited you - when you visited the least of my brothers.

Self-interest is the commonality that binds all men (don't pretend you don't have it when it's a part of all of our natures). We come to God out of self-interest, He transforms us slowly through faith and we become useful to others.

People who think they are selfless very often get discouraged with good works when they realize that their values (no God, no rewards, no Eternity, faith in humanity) don't line up with the thanklessness and utter godlessness that they may encounter. They may encounter occasional encouragement and then shut themselves up quicker than you can say Ebenezer Scrooge.

Discourage faith in others and you are discouraging good works for years to come. Is it worth it? Especially if a friend or relative of yours might come on this receiving end of faith?
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11/29/2012 09:15 PM
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Re: Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?
A persons faith is simply a by-product of ones surroundings, heritage, cultural upbringing, etc... If by chance a person had been raised in the jungle by a tribe that worships the sun, then his faith would be in the sun. How can there be only one true faith when this sun faith would be considered by him, to be the one true faith?
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WRONG. SEE VERY FEW PEOPLE KNOW WHAT FAITH ACTUALLY IS... IT'S NOT CHURCH ON SUNDAY OR GROWING UP IN A CERTAIN ENVIRONMENT. FAITH IS WHAT VERY VERY FEW HAVE. YOU CAN'T EVEN TRULY EXPLAIN IT. LOOK AT WHAT JESUS SAID FAITH IS...
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11/29/2012 09:17 PM
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Re: Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?
Why do religious people consider faith a virtue? It's what God is looking for in us in regard to Him.
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Did God personally come down from on high and tell you that?

Or did you read it in a man-made book that CLAIMS to be the voice of your god?
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IF HE DID I AM SURE YOU'D BE THE FIRST TO CALL THE COPS TO HAVE ME COMMITTED. THAT IS QUITE ALRIGHT THOUGH... I MEAN I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE THE POINT IN ARGUING WITH A CRAZY PERSON ON THE STREET CORNER SPEWING NONSENSE TO A TRASH CAN. I WOULD NOT ARGUE WITH THEM OR TRY TO CONVINCE THEM HOW INSANE THEY WERE BECAUSE WELL THEY ARE INSANE IT IS A WASTE OF TIME
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Re: Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?
Worry about yourself, have a genuine self-interest.
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Apparently religitards are only serving their master because they desire the riches of heaven, or they're scared of being tossed into an eternal barbecue.

I'm sure your god will look favorably on your obsession with "self-interest" and "worrying about yourself".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9788321


If you serve the right Master, you will serve others.
'When did I see you in prison and visited you - when you visited the least of my brothers.

Self-interest is the commonality that binds all men (don't pretend you don't have it when it's a part of all of our natures). We come to God out of self-interest, He transforms us slowly through faith and we become useful to others.

People who think they are selfless very often get discouraged with good works when they realize that their values (no God, no rewards, no Eternity, faith in humanity) don't line up with the thanklessness and utter godlessness that they may encounter. They may encounter occasional encouragement and then shut themselves up quicker than you can say Ebenezer Scrooge.

Discourage faith in others and you are discouraging good works for years to come. Is it worth it? Especially if a friend or relative of yours might come on this receiving end of faith?
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I rather mankind be as it was created to be. Imperfect, but ever striving to understand his universe through the cerebral cortex he's been blessed with.

After all, Christian demands that we become "childlike" or "animal-like" and asks us to ignore the logic and reasoning we've been allowed to possess, in favor of mindless "faith" in a Hebrew god who proves himself violent and capricious in the Old Testament.
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11/29/2012 09:18 PM
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Re: Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?
"Faith" is a poor English translation.

The term is better defined as "Knowledge of the unseen but obvious".

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11/29/2012 09:19 PM
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Re: Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?
I rather mankind be as it was created to be. Imperfect, but ever striving to understand his universe through the cerebral cortex he's been blessed with.

After all, Christian demands that we become "childlike" or "animal-like" and asks us to ignore the logic and reasoning we've been allowed to possess, in favor of mindless "faith" in a Hebrew god who proves himself violent and capricious in the Old Testament.
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You are hilariously ignorant of both Jewish and Christian spirituality.
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11/29/2012 09:20 PM
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Re: Why do religious people consider "faith" a virtue?
"Faith" is a poor English translation.

The term is better defined as "Knowledge of the unseen but obvious".

You're welcome.
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Why don't you write into Wikipedia and tell them they're wrong then. You're welcome, asshole.

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