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Message Subject what are the advantages and disadvantages of declaring personal sovereignty???
Poster Handle Goodmen
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Native Americans were proposed to buy land.

How can land be bought?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14667725


It can't. Property and ownership are concepts of the imagination. If you physically occupy a piece of land than it is yours for it is physically impossible for two people to occupy the exact same space at the same time. If the space is empty than it is free to be occupied by anyone or anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19588417


Again, its a Philosophy. That is what the Indians thought when they sold Manhattan Island for beads and trinkets. Our superior firepower taught them what trespassing means within a week.

My Property is mine because the "Law" will back me up- That (honestly) is the only reason. he who has the might and Power makes the rules.
Those Indians may have been "correct" but they still got room temperature quickly and could do nothing about it.

-Again, not saying its right- but it is reality.
 Quoting: Goodmen 16778386


I don't really consider what I say about property to be solely philosophy because it's based upon physical properties. In reality no two people can physically occupy the same space, but anyone can occupy an empty space.

While it is true that a person can be forced off of the land they occupy, it is only because it is widely agreed upon that people contribute to the forcing of those off of property that they physically own. If you want a return to reality, a return to what's physically true rather than what is agreed to be true then you simply start living your life based upon physical reality and forget about all the imagined reality.

True there will be those that try to hurt you for disagreeing with their made up reality, but the life of a revolutionary is not without its perils. If we are going to return to reality, a life based upon physically existent rules, then we must start somewhere. Big things have small beginnings.

If you do not want a return to a life based upon physical reality then by all means continue living in a system that is, in my own personal opinion, based upon imaginary rules. So really if you want it do it, if you don't then don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19588417


See, I believe in Property rights... Currently I live in a City without even a real yard but my last home had some land and I would have been pissed if people just decided to pitch a tent on my land. I would have called the Police. They would have removed them. That IS reality.

In the early 1800s I probably would have had to get in a gunfight to get them off my land- That was the reality then (not wanting to go back to that...)

Nope, I enjoy property rights and wouldn't want someone trespassing in MY land because I am not currently occupying the space.
-Not sure if I am understanding you right though- is that what you are saying, that if nobody is physically present anyone else should have the right to that space?
 
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