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Message Subject what are the advantages and disadvantages of declaring personal sovereignty???
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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See, I believe in Property rights... Currently I live in a City without even a real yard but my last home had some land and I would have been pissed if people just decided to pitch a tent on my land. I would have called the Police. They would have removed them. That IS reality.

In the early 1800s I probably would have had to get in a gunfight to get them off my land- That was the reality then (not wanting to go back to that...)

Nope, I enjoy property rights and wouldn't want someone trespassing in MY land because I am not currently occupying the space.
-Not sure if I am understanding you right though- is that what you are saying, that if nobody is physically present anyone else should have the right to that space?
 Quoting: Goodmen 16778386

Hope you don't mind if I shrink these quotes to save some space.

I think you understand what I'm saying, but there's more to it than just being able to occupy an empty space. Contrary to popular belief this world is big enough for the two of us. Simply because a person can pitch a tent in what you consider your yard doesn't mean they will. Believe it or not I'm sure most people don't want to live in your yard and if they were able to pitch a tent or house in any empty space on Earth then I'm sure they would prefer to pitch it in an area where they have plenty of space too rather than in your yard.

So even though a person can pitch a tent in your yard, they probably wont because, like you, neither do they want you living in their backyard. There's plenty of space and although they can they have no need to enter your personal space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19588417

No, I had Land (like nearly 88 acres) in the foothills of the Mountains in kentucky (close to the TN Border) which I bought so I could have the Privacy I wanted- So my wife and I could stroll around on our property and enjoy it in peace, so my kids could run off and play without needing constant supervision.

Sure there is room for us both- But not on my property (unless I allowed it which I sometimes did- Hell some strangers asked if they could hunt one day and I allowed it)- Would you not mind someone pitching a tent in your yard and just living there?

I guess its a philosophical difference since I am very , very keen on Property rights. Whats mine is mine.

Now, I also know that I really do not "own" land (back to the Indians) as I have taxes and will die. BUT I temporarily "own" the land, build equity and have the right to use it- But others do not absent of my permission.

That sounds almost Communistic (the ideal of no real property rights)
 Quoting: Goodmen 16778386

I have family in Kentucky, beautiful land there.

I wouldn't call it communistic, but more of a natural ideal. The law of nature prevails, a bird can build a nest anywhere he wants, if his neighbors express their displeasure then he may leave. Honestly who really wants to live by someone that is not happy with their presence?

Personally I think that if we were to return to a more natural rule then people would be far less irritable. They wouldn't be getting kicked out of their houses, wouldn't be getting jerked around by wealthy banks and their fees and schemes, wouldn't be forced to follow someone else's idea of right and wrong. So it wouldn't be necessary to have a lot of land to keep your children safe from others because they others wouldn't be dangerous, they wouldn't hate their fellow man for jerking them around.

As for people pitching a tent in my yard, I really wouldn't care, but I understand that people are different. I'm not saying you should be like me and let people live next to your front door, if that's not your cup of tea then that's part of who you are and I respect that. I feel there are those who are comfortable living near others and those who prefer more privacy. If people were less irritable I think they'd be more willing to respect a persons desire for privacy and simply not crowd him out of respect rather than fear.
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