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Sooo..NYC Fast Food Workers Went On Strike. Want a Union.

 
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I don't understand people on this site. First there's bitching about how all these people are on welfare eating up your tax dollars and how they are so worthless and how they need to get jobs etc. Then, when the people do get jobs but are still living on welfare, and they try to better their lives, people STILL bitch about them. This site makes me hate the human race.
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clappa
+10000000000

And for a group of people who see a government conspiracy in everything that happens, you can't see the writing on the wall! Of course they want to keep wages low. Keep poor people poor and dependent on the Government. You so called "enlightened" people are blinded by your own hate, that you cannot see the obvious. You sit here and judge thinking you are some how better then fast food workers?? What because when you got out of high school you landed a great job, or you were able to go to college? Not everyone has that path set for them. Lets not give people a living wage. Lets let the CEO's and execs have all the money and lets keep us all poor. You wonder why America has gone to shit? Us little people don't deserve anything, we need to be the good little slaves and work for whatever the high & mighty tell us we are worth. What you morans don't understand is that it is the threat of unions that keep most Companies paying decent wages and benefits. Let go ahead and outlaw unions so all you " I am not in a union and my Company treats me great" people can watch your wages cut in half. So you benefit from Unions as much as union shops. Hell lets get rid of OSHA to. We could model our workforce after Mexico and China! Hell we don't need any worker protections at all. This site will make you hate the human race. I think 95% of the people posting here work for the Government, or they are the stupidest people on the planet.
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I don't understand people on this site. First there's bitching about how all these people are on welfare eating up your tax dollars and how they are so worthless and how they need to get jobs etc. Then, when the people do get jobs but are still living on welfare, and they try to better their lives, people STILL bitch about them. This site makes me hate the human race.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19025462


clappa
+10000000000

And for a group of people who see a government conspiracy in everything that happens, you can't see the writing on the wall! Of course they want to keep wages low. Keep poor people poor and dependent on the Government. You so called "enlightened" people are blinded by your own hate, that you cannot see the obvious. You sit here and judge thinking you are some how better then fast food workers?? What because when you got out of high school you landed a great job, or you were able to go to college? Not everyone has that path set for them. Lets not give people a living wage. Lets let the CEO's and execs have all the money and lets keep us all poor. You wonder why America has gone to shit? Us little people don't deserve anything, we need to be the good little slaves and work for whatever the high & mighty tell us we are worth. What you morans don't understand is that it is the threat of unions that keep most Companies paying decent wages and benefits. Let go ahead and outlaw unions so all you " I am not in a union and my Company treats me great" people can watch your wages cut in half. So you benefit from Unions as much as union shops. Hell lets get rid of OSHA to. We could model our workforce after Mexico and China! Hell we don't need any worker protections at all. This site will make you hate the human race. I think 95% of the people posting here work for the Government, or they are the stupidest people on the planet.
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Whatever. I used to work at pizza hut, Whataburger, and Sonic. During that time I was a drop out from the 9th grade living with a room mate at 16 because school sucked and I knew it all. I worked two of those crappy jobs at one time just to make it. That was just the start of the long line of crappy jobs I have had. I eventually wised the hell up and got my GED, then went to college while supporting myself. No one gave me $hit. While everyone else was partying, I was studying or working. Everything I have earned I did myself. I take no pity on anyone that complains about their current employment situation. You want a better job then make yourself more marketable. If have the skills then the company wants to keep you. If you dont like the job you have then go get another one.

Holding the employer's business hostage by forming a union and threatening to strike because a person is too lazy to better themselves is sad. When you hire into a job you know what the pay scale is. You want a 15$ an hour job then go get a 15$ an hour job. Dont bring down another person's lively hood because of your lazy a$$ short comings as a human and your lack of ability to improve your marketability.
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My point exactly ... The ignorant uneducated employees of the fast food industry want the pay of skilled laborers and tradesmen.
They can go fuck themselvs for real they are settling for mediocrty in their lives and expect the rest of civilized society to say that's ok ... That fact is it's not ok , they dont deserve respect for as job that poisons our youth .. They had jobs years ago that became obeselete ... Remember the gas Station attendant .. Figure the dame thing for fast food workers. Honestly I'd feel more comfortable pushing a button for my burger fixings than having some inner city desease carrying ignorant fool touching or handling my food . So fast food owners go ahead save your money and invest in the more cost effective automated replacements ( think of the benefits of actually ordering from a Ronald McDonald clown ... That's not going to complain about wages or toxic chemicals they have to wear as make up)
The novelty of it alone would boost sale and generate revenues.
Plus you minimize the possible laws suits and insurance premiums by eliminating the human element from the equation. Also reduce losses from theft, and mistakes made on orders.
So here's the deal they aren't on strike they were all simultaneously fired. They may however be disgruntled but that as is their education and ability to comprehend is their problem not ours.
Note: if they wanted better pay they could have sought out better paying work or even easier .... Done a job worthy of better pay.( be honest when was the last time you walked into one of those places and got what you ordered? The item you get doesn't even resemble the picture of the item you ordered... So they cleary are incompetent of properly preparing even the simplest of tasks such as food prep... Not culinary artisty but simple prep)
If you let the ignorant remain ignorant they will spread the ignorance disguised as intelligence... But embarrass them with truth and knowledge .. Shining the light on their out right ignorant stupidity )
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fast food workers union?

they have that?

LOLZ!
Liberal Logic - Demanding that the government stay out of their bedrooms while insisting on taxpayer funded birth control.
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I would close the doors first.
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You'd probably have to, Fox!

How many hamburgers need to be sold at each location every hour at McD's just to pay for the people working there at the current rate of pay? Don't forget that this is on top of rent, electricity, food purchases, taxes (Federal, State, County, and City) and probably some other expenses which I haven't even thought of. 30? 50? That's at $9 an hour.

Now extrapolate that up to $15 an hour. Those places will be closing left and right, following a major price increase for their (already over-priced) products. Most Americans will be curtailing their "non-home-cooked meal" purchases quite soon (if they haven't begun already) when they see all of the tax increases they'll be required to pay come January 1, thanks to Obama.
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yup, moochi the wookie on the right.
derriers
I think Michelle Obama is behind this.

first hostess
than fast food
next sugary drinks

she's the food czar, isn't she?
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From THAT view, she looks like she should turn around and start hawking pancake mix and syrup!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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perfect recruits for the communist unions...
I'm not sure how many of you are from NYC, but I live here & at these fast food joints, it's nothing but a bunch of lazy, rude and idiotic minorities. I very seldom eat at McDonalds, but when I do my order is always wrong & I end up wasting an hour due to a moron who cannot count cheeseburgers.
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yup, moochi the wookie on the right.
derriers
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From THAT view, she looks like she should turn around and start hawking pancake mix and syrup!
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Bussed in UNION thugs.....AGAIN.


Just think....they want McDonalds to pay them $15.00 (up from the 7.50-9.50) they pay them now.


Guess what happens to McDonalds food prices?
....then guess what happens to their ENTIRE business as a result when people stop buying due to high prices?


F*cking Socialists.

uniontwink
 Quoting: Burt Gummer



I will guess. Price is where supply and demand curves intersect. Price is a function of supply and demand.

If unions drive wages up, how does that affect what someone is willing to pay for a cheeseburger or how many cheeseburgers there are to sell? It doesn't.

So how will franchise owners pay higher wages? Well, money comes in to the cash register. Some goes into buying more cheeseburgers and keeping the electric on. Some goes into the owners pocket. I guess any increase in cost means the owner takes less in profits. He gets less free money. So long as he gets more free money than he would get in another business, he will keep his fast food restaurant running.

Businesses can always adapt to rising costs of materials and supplies. Their hysteria at increased labor costs is FAKE.

Nine dollars an hour in NYC? Who can live on that? Homeless people? You want to eat a burger cooked by a guy sleeps in a city shelter? Or on a grate or in a condemned building? Bathing in the mens room sink? OMG.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28752316


In your bringing up the point that supply and demand drives the market and dictates what you can charge for an item before suffering loses but you must also consider that connivance food is just that a connivance and not a necessity.

If the prices on these marginal connivance food rises much more then they currently are then it would drive more people to eat at home or package meals for the road, which would be a good thing.

Since our economy is not stable and those left with expendable funds allocated for such trivial convince purchases would dwindle those left frequenting these fast food establishments would be those who fall under the government dependent class using their EBT cards for burgers and fries.

Your analogy of the owner pocketing less than a living wage for himself is ludicrous and I suspect the owner would rather lay off employees before going home with the dregs from the cash register.

We see an ever-increasing number of fast food restaurants closing due to customers choosing other options to save money.

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 Quoting: SilverPatriot



Fast food wages do not affect fast food prices. Wages can double and prices will stay the same. Never do wages affect prices.

But when fast food wages double, more fast food workers will be able to afford to buy a burger and a shake on their way home. Or movie tickets. Or things for the kids. And the whole economy gets better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28762252


Seriously do you believe that wages have no effect upon prices pray tell where does the magically money come from to pay employees wages. Further, consider any employee who works at a fast food establishment do you really believe after being around that stuff day in and day out wants to waste their money on a product that the smell alone sickens them.

If they are smart, they will be drawn to foods that are more nutritious and home cooked meals instead of chemically based fast food.
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How the hell can you survive on $9/hour or even $15/hour in NYC?

They should be asking for at least $25!!!
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A bargain basement price for a house in NYC is 350 large. That means an average income should be around 100k gross.
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I recall a guy from the truckers' union on the radio complaining about the Mexican trucks on the roads. "The safety is bad! You're all gonna die!"

When they opened up the phone lines, person after person called in and handed him his ass. It was funny.
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What was so funny about it? You think that giving jobs to noncitizens is a good thing? Those jobs should go to NON UNION AMERICAN CITIZENS.
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perfect recruits for the communist unions...
I'm not sure how many of you are from NYC, but I live here & at these fast food joints, it's nothing but a bunch of lazy, rude and idiotic minorities. I very seldom eat at McDonalds, but when I do my order is always wrong & I end up wasting an hour due to a moron who cannot count cheeseburgers.
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 Quoting: uscrusader1


I visited NYC, and the bus drivers, subways workers and "security" people at the public places were all the same as described as above.

Seriously, how do you people TAKE it living in NY???
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How the hell can you survive on $9/hour or even $15/hour in NYC?

They should be asking for at least $25!!!
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^^This. Has anybody seen the cost of living in NYC? So you are saying these people should have to work three jobs in order to be able to survive?

Lunatics.

cruise
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I wouldn't work three jobs (assuming I can get them). I'll just set up camp on a wooded area off of a parkway and spend my $150 weekly disposable income on booze. What else are you going to do with $150 in a place where cheap shelter costs a grand a month?
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More money should be a result of more productivity or more value

Just demanding more is wrong, esp if you are easily-replaceable
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The dollar menu is long gone where I'm at. Printing money to bail out people who deserve to be in jail right saw to that.
Get rid of the dollar menu and you union bitches are going out of business.
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How the hell can you survive on $9/hour or even $15/hour in NYC?

They should be asking for at least $25!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28219101


THEN THEY NEED TO FIND OTHER JOBS DONT THEY???


Idiot. thwak
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Wow. No wonder you people are in such a bad mess.

If you all keep sucking the dicks of big corporations, there's only going to be bigger winners and more losers.
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They don't care. In as much as the folks drinking the koolaid aren't rich, they are a place in their lives where they can't really be hurt by anything that happens with the economy. They have their houses paid off, they can easily get money for the taxes, at worst they would be worried about utilities.
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All the money in the world won't give Shaqueena a good attitude when I go in to place my order.
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Hope she spits in your McRib
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27801339


They're already doing that shit. In 2010, in a town about 40 miles east of here, they caught an employee at a Hardees MASTURBATING INTO THE GRAVY POT.....ON CAMERA. Don't kid yourself, that $9 per hour buys some nasty bastards.
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The you SHOULD go find other work.
McDonalds is not supposed to be a CAREER PATH you buffoon.
95% of them are TRANSIENT JOBS.


:clues:
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

sure man..maybe 15 years ago that was true..before millions of fair wage jobs went bye-bye permanently.

these days those jobs are vital to families everywhere.
show a little respect for them.
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:Suck a D:
 Quoting: Hitokiri

your offer of a free blow job is tempting, but i will have to respectfully decline.

y'all gonna act like nafta didnt happen?..like the industrial base of America wasnt systematically sold-out from underneath us?

newsflash: there is a new reality.
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Like I said earlier, those folks are likely well into their 50's, have a paid off house, and nothing that will ever happen will hurt them. They come to sites like this one to get their kicks by kicking people when they are down and out. They're sadistic.
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The sad thing about slavery is at least the slave didn't have to worry about shelter costs.
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I'm reposting this for you since you seem to not be able to read. lol rolleyes

If you want MORE....then go to SCHOOL learn a TRADE or get a useful DEGREE and make more money with an actual CAREER.
If you stay at McDonalds making low wages your whole life it's your own LACK OF AMBITION and/or LAZINESS to blame.



Oh...and if you cant afford NYC on 9 bucks an hour?....guess what? YOU HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE CITY.
...or find a better paying job.

Derp! tard
 Quoting: Burt Gummer

absolutely- people that put in the extra effort for school or learning a trade are worth more.

how does that excuse a company from not paying a living wage?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27851254


Burger flipping is not a CAREER PATH JOB or living wage job....it's a TRANSIENT JOB.

You want a living wage job...then GO FIND ONE.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer


Doing what? many jobs for the common man have been outsourced. That borders treason in my mind. Oh, but it was legal... Who facilitated that? Slavery used to be legal.
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I recall a guy from the truckers' union on the radio complaining about the Mexican trucks on the roads. "The safety is bad! You're all gonna die!"

When they opened up the phone lines, person after person called in and handed him his ass. It was funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28256524


What was so funny about it? You think that giving jobs to noncitizens is a good thing? Those jobs should go to NON UNION AMERICAN CITIZENS.
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I recall a guy from the truckers' union on the radio complaining about the Mexican trucks on the roads. "The safety is bad! You're all gonna die!"

When they opened up the phone lines, person after person called in and handed him his ass. It was funny.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28256524


What was so funny about it? You think that giving jobs to noncitizens is a good thing? Those jobs should go to NON UNION AMERICAN CITIZENS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25867801

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25867801


They were pissed he was a union pig using typical scare tactics on people. that's what was absolutely hilarious.


trucks been on the road a while, I'm not hearing about all these crashes. The union dope had been saying how "oh those trucks have tread hanging off the tires!" and crap like that.
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This thread is very indicative of the growth economy in general.

Oh, pay them more money because the cost of living is high and they'll spend that excess money into the economy and they'll buy movies and shit they don't need at Walgreen's.

Fuck all of this. As has been pointed out, in the NYC greater metro area, all these fast food workers are brain dead subhuman trash. Instead of figuring out how to put more money in their pocket, we ought to be focusing on how to get rid of them.

Stop patronizing fast food restaurants. Stop paying someone to serve you shit food you can just as easily make yourself. Stop supporting the service economy. "Oh but these people will lose their jobs and they have kids." Good. "Oh but all of those businesses will close up and shop and what will we replace the economic activity with?" How about nothing?

Seriously.. who fucking cares how many jobs the new Rite Aid or Hampton Inn in town created? I liked it better when it was just empty space.

A new, different future is possible. But it is going to take sacrifice, sustained rejection of presently nurtured economic inclinations, and unparalleled devotion to seeing the job through.

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