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Proof fire and brimstone fell on Sodom and Gomorrah!

 
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We're talking about the word aionios.

Again, it stated they will go away into eternal / aionios punishment.

Aionios, has 3 meanings.

Which of these three can it be?

It states, they will go away into eternal punishment. Meaning there will be a beginning. So we can rule out definitions 1 and 2.

That then leaves us with definition 3, that it'll be without end.
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And that's how long Paul told Philemon to receive brother Onesimus, in Philemon 1:15. Onesy must still be there studying ;)
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That thou shouldest receive him for ever - That is, in the higher relation of a Christian friend and brother; that he might be united to thee in eternal affection; that he might not only be with thee in a far more endearing relation during the present life than he was before, but in the bonds of love in a world that shall never end.

That thou shouldest receive him for ever; or during life, or to all eternity, since they were in the same spiritual relation, partakers of the same grace, and had a right to the same heavenly inheritance, and should be together with Christ for evermore.
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We're talking about the word aionios.

Again, it stated they will go away into eternal / aionios punishment.

Aionios, has 3 meanings.

Which of these three can it be?

It states, they will go away into eternal punishment. Meaning there will be a beginning. So we can rule out definitions 1 and 2.

That then leaves us with definition 3, that it'll be without end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


And that's how long Paul told Philemon to receive brother Onesimus, in Philemon 1:15. Onesy must still be there studying ;)
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That thou shouldest receive him for ever - That is, in the higher relation of a Christian friend and brother; that he might be united to thee in eternal affection; that he might not only be with thee in a far more endearing relation during the present life than he was before, but in the bonds of love in a world that shall never end.

That thou shouldest receive him for ever; or during life, or to all eternity, since they were in the same spiritual relation, partakers of the same grace, and had a right to the same heavenly inheritance, and should be together with Christ for evermore.
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Fair enough - I'll buy that. It's but a speck restored to the crumbling stronghold of the concept called Endless Torment.
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We're talking about the word aionios.

Again, it stated they will go away into eternal / aionios punishment.

Aionios, has 3 meanings.

Which of these three can it be?

It states, they will go away into eternal punishment. Meaning there will be a beginning. So we can rule out definitions 1 and 2.

That then leaves us with definition 3, that it'll be without end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


And that's how long Paul told Philemon to receive brother Onesimus, in Philemon 1:15. Onesy must still be there studying ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


That thou shouldest receive him for ever - That is, in the higher relation of a Christian friend and brother; that he might be united to thee in eternal affection; that he might not only be with thee in a far more endearing relation during the present life than he was before, but in the bonds of love in a world that shall never end.

That thou shouldest receive him for ever; or during life, or to all eternity, since they were in the same spiritual relation, partakers of the same grace, and had a right to the same heavenly inheritance, and should be together with Christ for evermore.
[link to bible.cc]
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Fair enough - I'll buy that. It's but a speck restored to the crumbling stronghold of the concept called Endless Torment.
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lol, I can present so much more.

All the evidence, I shown was only a speck.
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lol, I can present so much more.

All the evidence, I shown was only a speck.
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Please do - I appreciate the discussion
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lol, I can present so much more.

All the evidence, I shown was only a speck.
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Please do - I appreciate the discussion
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Have you seen both of these following vids?

It's showing evidence, that the fire mentioned in this verse is very literal

Exodus 19:18 All of Mount Sinai was covered with smoke because the LORD had descended on it in the form of fire. The smoke billowed into the sky like smoke from a brick kiln, and the whole mountain shook violently.


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So now, we have evidence that fire and brimstone / sulfur that fell on Sodom and Gommorah is literal.

We now, have further evidence, if you watch these two vids, that an aspect of God himself, is literally like fire. And this isn't merely symbolic, as most assume.

So this gives further weight, that in the scriptures, that state, they will be tormented with fire and sulfur, forever, is too literal.

After or if you even watch these two, there's still much much more evidence. It's up to you, if you want to know more.
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Tangent: The book of Jude calls it "eternal" fire, but it doesn't seem to still be burning. . .curious, no?
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Radiation?
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Videos? Really?

Sorry, but the scary volcano god story has evaporated like a bad dream. Any "god" who claims to be both almighty and Love Personified yet somehow has no recourse but to endlessly cook the souls of some 95+% of the defective humans he created is a hypocrite of cosmic proportions.

Fortunately it's not so. Jesus saves to the uttermost.
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Tangent: The book of Jude calls it "eternal" fire, but it doesn't seem to still be burning. . .curious, no?
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Radiation?
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Not out of the question, I suppose. Is there any word on whether they've taken rad readings there?
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Videos? Really?

Sorry, but the scary volcano god story has evaporated like a bad dream. Any "god" who claims to be both almighty and Love Personified yet somehow has no recourse but to endlessly cook the souls of some 95+% of the defective humans he created is a hypocrite of cosmic proportions.

Fortunately it's not so. Jesus saves to the uttermost.
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lol, we can also examine books.

But it appears you already made up your mind.
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Videos? Really?

Sorry, but the scary volcano god story has evaporated like a bad dream. Any "god" who claims to be both almighty and Love Personified yet somehow has no recourse but to endlessly cook the souls of some 95+% of the defective humans he created is a hypocrite of cosmic proportions.

Fortunately it's not so. Jesus saves to the uttermost.
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lol, we can also examine books.

But it appears you already made up your mind.
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Yeah, pretty much, as this is something I've been objectively assessing for several years
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Videos? Really?

Sorry, but the scary volcano god story has evaporated like a bad dream. Any "god" who claims to be both almighty and Love Personified yet somehow has no recourse but to endlessly cook the souls of some 95+% of the defective humans he created is a hypocrite of cosmic proportions.

Fortunately it's not so. Jesus saves to the uttermost.
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lol, we can also examine books.

But it appears you already made up your mind.
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Yeah, pretty much, as this is something I've been objectively assessing for several years
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lol, you ignore or more than likely clueless of the wealth of evidence.

You're already showing you won't even examine, what I have to share, so it'll be pointless for me to share other resources and evidence including books, by credible sources.

You make assumptions, based on what you believe to be right, but, I could evidence that completely destroys your worldview.
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lol, you ignore or more than likely clueless of the wealth of evidence.

You're already showing you won't even examine, what I have to share, so it'll be pointless for me to share other resources and evidence including books, by credible sources.

You make assumptions, based on what you believe to be right, but, I could evidence that completely destroys your worldview.
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If you have evidence that God tortures lost souls (endlessly, no less), I'm all ears, be it videos or otherwise. I'll go ahead and view the ones you've already presented, as well as anything else you care to post.

sigh
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Quick question: are you the guy who went around posting all those demon possession videos a while back as proof that hell is real?
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Quick question: are you the guy who went around posting all those demon possession videos a while back as proof that hell is real?
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Let me first ask, how do you know demon possession is real, or merely someone suffering from a mental illness?
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Quick question: are you the guy who went around posting all those demon possession videos a while back as proof that hell is real?
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Let me first ask, how do you know demon possession is real, or merely someone suffering from a mental illness?
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Clinically speaking, I don't
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Quick question: are you the guy who went around posting all those demon possession videos a while back as proof that hell is real?
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Let me first ask, how do you know demon possession is real, or merely someone suffering from a mental illness?
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Clinically speaking, I don't
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Let me share a test used by exorcists, to determine if the person is mentally ill, or if they are truly possessed.

This is only one, of multiple tests.

The exorcists, will began speaking in a language, that the demonically possessed person will not know.

For example, an exorcist, may say a prayer in Latin, while knowing full well, the person has never leaned Latin.

If it's a legit demonic possession, the person will began speaking back in fluent Latin, and will then often began cursing God and Jesus.

From a psychological perspective, this is impossible and there's no explanation.

This is only one sign.

Thoughts?
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Quick question: are you the guy who went around posting all those demon possession videos a while back as proof that hell is real?
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Let me first ask, how do you know demon possession is real, or merely someone suffering from a mental illness?
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Clinically speaking, I don't
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Let me share a test used by exorcists, to determine if the person is mentally ill, or if they are truly possessed.

This is only one, of multiple tests.

The exorcists, will began speaking in a language, that the demonically possessed person will not know.

For example, an exorcist, may say a prayer in Latin, while knowing full well, the person has never leaned Latin.

If it's a legit demonic possession, the person will began speaking back in fluent Latin, and will then often began cursing God and Jesus.

From a psychological perspective, this is impossible and there's no explanation.

This is only one sign.

Thoughts?
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omg. I'm pretty sure we went over all of this kind of stuff back in August. . .

Thread: Hell is real....... (Page 4)
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the video reminds me of all the 'artifacts' found on mars. People see what they want to see, even though there is nothing there.
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Let me first ask, how do you know demon possession is real, or merely someone suffering from a mental illness?
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Clinically speaking, I don't
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Let me share a test used by exorcists, to determine if the person is mentally ill, or if they are truly possessed.

This is only one, of multiple tests.

The exorcists, will began speaking in a language, that the demonically possessed person will not know.

For example, an exorcist, may say a prayer in Latin, while knowing full well, the person has never leaned Latin.

If it's a legit demonic possession, the person will began speaking back in fluent Latin, and will then often began cursing God and Jesus.

From a psychological perspective, this is impossible and there's no explanation.

This is only one sign.

Thoughts?
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omg. I'm pretty sure we went over all of this kind of stuff back in August. . .

Thread: Hell is real....... (Page 4)
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lol

1) A secular reason, was never provided for this.

2) Once again, you jump to conclusions, assuming, I already presented everything.

So if you're done, that's fine. I won't present any more.
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Greetings:

Both Cities Were Removed By Placed Atomic Charges !!

These Charges Were Set By Abram ... Your Called "Abraham" ... A Trusted S(h)umerian Merchant ... Of Which Was Able To Sneak These Into To Cities ... As His Wagons (Being One Of Absolute Trust) ... Were Not Searched !!

Abram Was Requested Of This Task ... In A Meeting With Lord Anu ... In His Palace Ship !! ... In Exchange He Would Be Granted Via Enki ... That His Progency ... His Descendants Would Be Known Throughout The Stars !!

The Atomic Blasts Were Extremely Destructive !! ... Those That Did Not Die Right Away ... Were Horribly Burned By The Blasts !! ... They Received More Then A Fatal Dose Of Radiation ... & Just Waited To Die ... Their Skin Charred Beyond Recognition ... Their Nails & Hair Falling Out ... Their Eyes Blinded To Seeing !!

These Areas Were Now "Dead Zones" Due To Their High Radioactivity !! ... Of This The Trade Routes Were Moved/Re-Routed (Which Is Why These Cities ... These Beings Were Destroyed !! ... It Was Not Their "Sexual Persuasion" Which Was Cause For Action ... But Their Desire To "Attack/Molest" & Want To Have Sex ... With Anything & Anybody That Came Into/Near The Cities !!

Lord Anu (Head Of The Council of Worlds) ... Cared Not Of Their "Sexual Persuasion" ... However They Were Preventing The Merchants/Trades People From Getting Through !!

The Merchants/Trades People Fearing For Their Very Lives ... Of Which They Would Not Go Through These Cities ... Thus Denying The Essential Goods & Services Needed There & Outlying Communities !! ... Something Had To Be Done !! ... Drastic Measures Needed To Be Taken ... To Ensure Those That Relyed On The Merchants/Tradespeople For Their Goods/Services ... To Survive !!

There Were (2) Groups That Survived !! ... One Being Of Lot's Party/People ... Who's Descendants Wandered The Globe Looking For A New Home !! ... Noone Wanted Them ... Noone Wanted To Ttake The In ... & They Tended To "Take Over" & Run Things ... Such As It Is With Certain Other "Refugees" Of Your Day !! ... These People Of Your Day Are Called Those Of Israel ... & Are Believed To Be "The Chosen People" ... Of Which This Was Only True In The Case Of Lot & His Family !!

The Other Group Stayed Near To Their Lands ... Developing A More Nomadic Existence !! ... Living In Tents & Off Of The Land !! ... These Of Your Day Are Palestinians !!

**It Is Noteworthy To State ... That It Was An Ancestor ... A Woman Descendant Who Volunteered To Be The Birthmother ... Artifically Inseminated With Mixed ET Genes/Genetics ... To Birth The Hybrid Child Who's Mission It Was ... To Unite All Of Terra/Earth's People !!

**The Actual Birth Of The Hybrid Child ... Was In A Tent ... Along The Banks Of The Conjunction Of ... The Tigrus-Euprhates River !! ... NOT In The City Of Bethleham In A Manger With Animals !! ... (More Created/Invented Fiction !!

**No !! ... This Was NOT "Christ/Christ Child" ... It Was Not Yahweh Or Any Other Invented Names ... Of Which Were Created On Paper ... Years Later !! ... This Person Of One Of His Names/Identities Was Called ... Apollonius Of Tyana ... & Is The Basis/Foundation Of The "Created Paper Figure" That Was "Fictionally Born" ... 7 Years Later Then The Original Being !! ... **In Other Words ... The Beings On Terra/Earth Have Been Living/Existing A Lie ... That Has Been Created For Them ... To Control/Enslave & Steal/Theft ... To Control Their Very Lives !!

So Forget Your "Created After The Fact" "Bible" ... Which Is One Of Many That Stole Information/Ideas ... From Many Sources ... Living & Mythological !!

The Very "King James" Bible Was Comissioned By: King James ... & Given As A Project (With The Individual Who Penned "Shakesphere" (Francis Bacon) (Along With The Villagers) ... & Who Was Responsible For The Beginnings/Start Of Free Masonary !! ... So You Might Say ... The Very Creation Of What Is Known As "The (King James Version) Bible ... Is Masonic ... & Has Been Used To Brainwash, Control, Manipulate, Steal Monies & Goods ... & Many Other Nasty Things Besides !!

**It Is Interesting To Note ... That Of The True Illuminati ... The "Enlighted Ones" ... True Thinkers & Scholars ... Their Lodges/Meeting Places Were Infiltrated ... Taken Over ... & A Bait & Switch Was Instituted Of Which The "False Enlightened Ones" Were Now The New Masters Of The House & Manor !! ... Still To Your Day These Are More A "Secret Club" Of Which World Decisions Are Made ... Behind The Scenes ... With Care Only For Their Interests ... & Not As It Was ... With The True Illuminati ... The True Thinkers & Scholars ... Who Cared For The Entire Planet & All Of Life There !!

Farewell For Now !!

ST In BG
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Clinically speaking, I don't
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Let me share a test used by exorcists, to determine if the person is mentally ill, or if they are truly possessed.

This is only one, of multiple tests.

The exorcists, will began speaking in a language, that the demonically possessed person will not know.

For example, an exorcist, may say a prayer in Latin, while knowing full well, the person has never leaned Latin.

If it's a legit demonic possession, the person will began speaking back in fluent Latin, and will then often began cursing God and Jesus.

From a psychological perspective, this is impossible and there's no explanation.

This is only one sign.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


omg. I'm pretty sure we went over all of this kind of stuff back in August. . .

Thread: Hell is real....... (Page 4)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


lol

1) A secular reason, was never provided for this.

2) Once again, you jump to conclusions, assuming, I already presented everything.

So if you're done, that's fine. I won't present any more.
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That's a good deal, because documenting demon possession has zilch to do with God roasting people after they die. I understand that your "deep understanding of demonology" along with knowing what devils smell like all has concrete validity in your mind, but I'm just not interested. No longer a fan of "spiritual porn", nor of following every subjective vision or dream down a hole.
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Let me share a test used by exorcists, to determine if the person is mentally ill, or if they are truly possessed.

This is only one, of multiple tests.

The exorcists, will began speaking in a language, that the demonically possessed person will not know.

For example, an exorcist, may say a prayer in Latin, while knowing full well, the person has never leaned Latin.

If it's a legit demonic possession, the person will began speaking back in fluent Latin, and will then often began cursing God and Jesus.

From a psychological perspective, this is impossible and there's no explanation.

This is only one sign.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


omg. I'm pretty sure we went over all of this kind of stuff back in August. . .

Thread: Hell is real....... (Page 4)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


lol

1) A secular reason, was never provided for this.

2) Once again, you jump to conclusions, assuming, I already presented everything.

So if you're done, that's fine. I won't present any more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


That's a good deal, because documenting demon possession has zilch to do with God roasting people after they die. I understand that your "deep understanding of demonology" along with knowing what devils smell like all has concrete validity in your mind, but I'm just not interested. No longer a fan of "spiritual porn", nor of following every subjective vision or dream down a hole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Again you jump to conclusions.

You assume this is the extent of the information, and the extent of the subjects that will be covered.

So one, you ignore evidence.

And also refuse to look at other evidences, while claiming to know the answer.
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omg. I'm pretty sure we went over all of this kind of stuff back in August. . .

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lol

1) A secular reason, was never provided for this.

2) Once again, you jump to conclusions, assuming, I already presented everything.

So if you're done, that's fine. I won't present any more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


That's a good deal, because documenting demon possession has zilch to do with God roasting people after they die. I understand that your "deep understanding of demonology" along with knowing what devils smell like all has concrete validity in your mind, but I'm just not interested. No longer a fan of "spiritual porn", nor of following every subjective vision or dream down a hole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Again you jump to conclusions.

You assume this is the extent of the information, and the extent of the subjects that will be covered.

So one, you ignore evidence.

And also refuse to look at other evidences, while claiming to know the answer.
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That's fine - no sweat
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The thing I find so strange about Christians is the fact that they are so incredibly gullible. They never question anything. As long as a Christian tells them something...it just HAS to be true.

Dinosaurs walked on earth with people and they nod their silly little heads. Pat Robertson sits in a chair and talks to God directly and they get teary eyed. Some other charlatan knocks people over by his touch and they believe these people are miraculously healed. The earth is 6,000 years old and they could not care less what age the earth REALLY is. They tell them that they found Noah's ark and they get all excited...and now this crap about Sodom and Gomorrah.

I am quite sure that a NON-Christian would examine this evidence and come to a completely different conclusion. Maybe the area was hit by a meteor? Maybe the Christian archeologist made up all this evidence? Add to that the fact that absolutely no one really knows where Sodom and Gomorrah were, let alone if they ever existed.

So while the Christians try to tell you that a big star, way up in the sky, led some men to a stable or some donkey had a long conversation with his master on some dusty road or how demons invaded a herd of pigs and they jumped off a cliff or how a man lived in a fish for three days or how another man walked out of the grave while smelling of death or how the sun stood still so some man could win a battle, I, personally, just wish they all could grow up. They are like little children...still clinging to Santa Claus.
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lol

1) A secular reason, was never provided for this.

2) Once again, you jump to conclusions, assuming, I already presented everything.

So if you're done, that's fine. I won't present any more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


That's a good deal, because documenting demon possession has zilch to do with God roasting people after they die. I understand that your "deep understanding of demonology" along with knowing what devils smell like all has concrete validity in your mind, but I'm just not interested. No longer a fan of "spiritual porn", nor of following every subjective vision or dream down a hole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578


Again you jump to conclusions.

You assume this is the extent of the information, and the extent of the subjects that will be covered.

So one, you ignore evidence.

And also refuse to look at other evidences, while claiming to know the answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28791621


That's fine - no sweat
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I'll share one more, you can read the book 'Revealing Heaven' by Kerr.

Or here's an interview, by her that touches on a subject from the vid.

In this vid, she was taken out of the body to heaven.

Here she met a deceased girl while in heaven.

She learned of information about this girl, that was impossible to know about.

After returning to her body, she went to the girl's family. And shared this information with them.

They were shocked, since she shared things, about this girl down to the exact details. And it was all proven to be correct.

This shows, the experience was not imagined, or a product of her subconscious.

This now shows, that her experience while in heaven, was not imagined.

Now while in heaven, she was also taken to hell, and shown people being tormented there. She confirmed that the torment, is forever.

So you may now say, she only imagined this, but, this was impossible, since she came across several deceased people while in heaven. And learned of things about them that was impossible to know about, but was later researched to be true down to the exact details. This shows the experience was not imagined.

There's more cases like this.

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That's a good deal, because documenting demon possession has zilch to do with God roasting people after they die. I understand that your "deep understanding of demonology" along with knowing what devils smell like all has concrete validity in your mind, but I'm just not interested. No longer a fan of "spiritual porn", nor of following every subjective vision or dream down a hole.
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Again you jump to conclusions.

You assume this is the extent of the information, and the extent of the subjects that will be covered.

So one, you ignore evidence.

And also refuse to look at other evidences, while claiming to know the answer.
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That's fine - no sweat
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I'll share one more, you can read the book 'Revealing Heaven' by Kerr.

Or here's an interview, by her that touches on a subject from the vid.

In this vid, she was taken out of the body to heaven.

Here she met a deceased girl while in heaven.

She learned of information about this girl, that was impossible to know about.

After returning to her body, she went to the girl's family. And shared this information with them.

They were shocked, since she shared things, about this girl down to the exact details. And it was all proven to be correct.

This shows, the experience was not imagined, or a product of her subconscious.

This now shows, that her experience while in heaven, was not imagined.

Now while in heaven, she was also taken to hell, and shown people being tormented there. She confirmed that the torment, is forever.

So you may now say, she only imagined this, but, this was impossible, since she came across several deceased people while in heaven. And learned of things about them that was impossible to know about, but was later researched to be true down to the exact details. This shows the experience was not imagined.

There's more cases like this.


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And you believe this why? Oh, I know. Because it was on YOU TUBE. People on YOU TUBE never lie. Now the Long Island Medium who talks to dead people, I'm sure you think she is just pulling everyone's leg. But this lady, YOU KNOW she is telling the truth. Grow up. Please.
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Again you jump to conclusions.

You assume this is the extent of the information, and the extent of the subjects that will be covered.

So one, you ignore evidence.

And also refuse to look at other evidences, while claiming to know the answer.
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That's fine - no sweat
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I'll share one more, you can read the book 'Revealing Heaven' by Kerr.

Or here's an interview, by her that touches on a subject from the vid.

In this vid, she was taken out of the body to heaven.

Here she met a deceased girl while in heaven.

She learned of information about this girl, that was impossible to know about.

After returning to her body, she went to the girl's family. And shared this information with them.

They were shocked, since she shared things, about this girl down to the exact details. And it was all proven to be correct.

This shows, the experience was not imagined, or a product of her subconscious.

This now shows, that her experience while in heaven, was not imagined.

Now while in heaven, she was also taken to hell, and shown people being tormented there. She confirmed that the torment, is forever.

So you may now say, she only imagined this, but, this was impossible, since she came across several deceased people while in heaven. And learned of things about them that was impossible to know about, but was later researched to be true down to the exact details. This shows the experience was not imagined.

There's more cases like this.


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And you believe this why? Oh, I know. Because it was on YOU TUBE. People on YOU TUBE never lie. Now the Long Island Medium who talks to dead people, I'm sure you think she is just pulling everyone's leg. But this lady, YOU KNOW she is telling the truth. Grow up. Please.
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1) I said, the information is also in the book. Since you apparently believe books are more credible.

2) The families of the girl, can be personally contacted. To verify her case.

3) She met several more, and all their families can be personally contacted as well, to verify her information.

4) I saw the Long Island Medium live, without any cuts. Which showed, you was a fraud, or either that, guessing at answers, or she certainly did make a lot of misses / mistakes.

5) You already blindly reject without doing any research.

6) There's multiple other cases, that verifies what the woman saw while in heaven.

7) There's a wealth of other evidences, that further verifies the woman's account.

To blindly accept info without evidence, is just as unwise, to blindly reject without evidence.
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The thing I find so strange about Christians is the fact that they are so incredibly gullible. They never question anything. As long as a Christian tells them something...it just HAS to be true.

Dinosaurs walked on earth with people and they nod their silly little heads. Pat Robertson sits in a chair and talks to God directly and they get teary eyed. Some other charlatan knocks people over by his touch and they believe these people are miraculously healed. The earth is 6,000 years old and they could not care less what age the earth REALLY is. They tell them that they found Noah's ark and they get all excited...and now this crap about Sodom and Gomorrah.

I am quite sure that a NON-Christian would examine this evidence and come to a completely different conclusion. Maybe the area was hit by a meteor? Maybe the Christian archeologist made up all this evidence? Add to that the fact that absolutely no one really knows where Sodom and Gomorrah were, let alone if they ever existed.

So while the Christians try to tell you that a big star, way up in the sky, led some men to a stable or some donkey had a long conversation with his master on some dusty road or how demons invaded a herd of pigs and they jumped off a cliff or how a man lived in a fish for three days or how another man walked out of the grave while smelling of death or how the sun stood still so some man could win a battle, I, personally, just wish they all could grow up. They are like little children...still clinging to Santa Claus.
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well said. and still clinging to satan claws
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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That's fine - no sweat
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I'll share one more, you can read the book 'Revealing Heaven' by Kerr.

Or here's an interview, by her that touches on a subject from the vid.

In this vid, she was taken out of the body to heaven.

Here she met a deceased girl while in heaven.

She learned of information about this girl, that was impossible to know about.

After returning to her body, she went to the girl's family. And shared this information with them.

They were shocked, since she shared things, about this girl down to the exact details. And it was all proven to be correct.

This shows, the experience was not imagined, or a product of her subconscious.

This now shows, that her experience while in heaven, was not imagined.

Now while in heaven, she was also taken to hell, and shown people being tormented there. She confirmed that the torment, is forever.

So you may now say, she only imagined this, but, this was impossible, since she came across several deceased people while in heaven. And learned of things about them that was impossible to know about, but was later researched to be true down to the exact details. This shows the experience was not imagined.

There's more cases like this.


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And you believe this why? Oh, I know. Because it was on YOU TUBE. People on YOU TUBE never lie. Now the Long Island Medium who talks to dead people, I'm sure you think she is just pulling everyone's leg. But this lady, YOU KNOW she is telling the truth. Grow up. Please.
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1) I said, the information is also in the book. Since you apparently believe books are more credible.

2) The families of the girl, can be personally contacted. To verify her case.

3) She met several more, and all their families can be personally contacted as well, to verify her information.

4) I saw the Long Island Medium live, without any cuts. Which showed, you was a fraud, or either that, guessing at answers, or she certainly did make a lot of misses / mistakes.

5) You already blindly reject without doing any research.

6) There's multiple other cases, that verifies what the woman saw while in heaven.

7) There's a wealth of other evidences, that further verifies the woman's account.

To blindly accept info without evidence, is just as unwise, to blindly reject without evidence.
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1. I never said I believe a book is more credible than anything else. You must be trying to read between the lines (PARDON the pun). Actually, I believe the book to be more evidence that this lady is pulling your leg. She is trying to sell books, just like that little kid who said he went to heaven and sat on Jesus' lap in a book his parents wrote for him. Nope, I don't buy that book either. People will do anything to make money, including selling bogus books. It is a good lesson to learn. Learn it, okay.

2. I doubt I could personally contact the families for verification. But if I could, maybe they agreed to lie for her, in exchange for some cash. It is amazing what people will do for money. This applies to number 3 as well. Maybe this lady researched their families through the internet? Maybe she made all this up and they believed her because she knew so much about them? You can find ALL KINDS of info about people on the internet. Give me your name and I will come back with some amazing facts about you.

Bottom line, I am not gullible. I don't trust many people in this world. I especially don't trust people who write BOOKS to explain what happened to them. That is a dead give away that they are trying to pull something over on someone. There is absolutely no proof for life after death. Once the brain dies, you better be prepared to say bye-bye sweet earth. Things that are invisible, like the soul, for instance, or God, or demons, or gremlins, or ghosts are not proven. If you can't prove something, don't believe in it. It is as simple as that.

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