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U.S. GENERAL: OBAMA PARALYZED BY FEAR ‘DISARMED FORCES’

 
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Exclusive: Gen. Patrick Brady explains why president abandoned Americans in Benghazi

By Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady , U.S. Army (ret.)

Now I understand! For years, many veterans and active military have been alarmed about the idiocy of the changes in battlefield aeromedical evacuation known as ‘Dustoff’. For reasons having nothing to do with patient care, Dustoff has been removed from the control of the professionals, the medics, and put under the control of amateurs, aviation staff officers, or ASOs. This is the first such change since the Civil War.

I document the unparalleled excellence of Dustoff, and the effects of the changes, in my book, “Dead Men Flying.”; Needless to say, it was the most outstanding battlefield operating system of that war – some one million souls saved and unprecedented survival rates. No warrior of Vietnam is more revered than the Dustoff crews.

In the words of Gen. Creighton Abrams, former U.S. Army chief of staff and former supreme commander in Vietnam: “A special word about the Dustoffs … Courage above and beyond the call of duty was sort of routine to them. It was a daily thing, part of the way they lived. That’s the great part, and it meant so much to every last man who served there. Whether he ever got hurt or not, he knew Dustoff was there. It was a great thing for our people.”;

Fast forward to current battlefields. We hear horror stories about patients waiting and dying because Dustoff didn’t launch or came too late. The launch standard in my unit in Vietnam was two minutes; today it is 15 minutes! Can anyone imagine a fire truck taking 15 minutes to get under way? I could go on and on, but one has to ask, why? Why the changes to an excellent, proven system? The answer is the Obama-Panetta Doctrine. In response to the horrible abandonment of dying Americans in Benghazi , Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”;
On its face, that is a remarkable, indeed incomprehensible, change from America ’s doctrine in past wars. By that standard, there would have been no Normandy or Inchon . In fact, I can’t think of a war we fought in which we didn’t go into harm’s way without real-time information or to save lives – something the president refused to do in Benghazi . Dustoff would never launch in Vietnam under that doctrine.

To fully understand the doctrinal change, one has to
understand President Obama. He has a dearth of understanding of our military and military matters. We hear he is uncomfortable in the presence of ranking military and seldom meets with them. He is not a person who can make decisions, and he takes an extraordinary amount of time to do so, leading to such unseemly labels for a commander in chief as “Ditherer-in-Chief.”;

President Obama may have set records for voting “present” on important issues. He cowers from crisis decisions.He is a politician who thinks only in terms of votes, and his own image. Although I was a psychology major back in the day (I’d love to hear a professional analyze risk and Obama), I won’t try to define his insides, but I believe he is risk-averse – fearful of risk – and that is the basis of the Obama-Panetta doctrine.
This aversion for risk dominates Dustoff rescue operations where, in addition to an unconscionable reaction time, risk assessment is the primary consideration for mission launch – not patient care. In two years flying Dustoff in Vietnam , I never heard that term, nor did any Dust pilot I know. The ASOs, remote from the battle, have developed time-consuming algorithms to analyze risk while the patient bleeds, something that’s impossible to do by anyone other than the pilot and the ground forces at the scene.

Obama’s aversion to risk contributed to the massacre of Americans by terrorists in Benghazi . We hear that the president did not even convene the Counterterrorism SecurityGroup while the Benghazi terrorist massacre was visually and verbally available in real time. That is like ignoring FEMA during Hurricane Sandy. But once you bring in a group labeled anti-terrorist, you have to acknowledge terror exists, something the president is loath to do.

My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama.

America needs to listen to these veterans. They understand leadership. They know how to deal with risk in war. They would not want this man with them in combat or crisis. They never left a needy comrade behind. Obama did.
Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady, retired from the U.S. Army, is a recipient of the United States military’s highest decoration, the Medal of Honor.

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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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Thanks for the pin request!
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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obongo is a muzzie, he can't do anything against 'his own'
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Barack Obongo, from his book, "The Audacity of Hope",
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obongo and panetta are communists, depleting the military is panetta's role in the US transition to communism.
My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama.
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Obama is a great actor.
By acting indecisive he accomplishes what he
is put there to do.
When America is attacked he will not order
a stand down.
He will equivocate, he will obfuscate,
he will dither until it is too late,
and he will accomplish the exact same results,
the total destruction of America.

He, and his communist cadre, despise America.
He said it from the beginning.
He wants to CHANGE America.

He WILL change America.
Into a radioactive wasteland,
from sea to shining sea.

That is why he is there,
and he will accomplish his purpose when
the time comes.
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Thanks for posting. All he is good at is campaigning.
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yeah obama was paralyzed with fear and 9/11 happened because bush took too many vacations....


GTFO.
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Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”;

I read this a couple weeks back and it struck me as the dumbest, most moronic, incomprehensible, idiotic, biggest load of crap, (insert adjective here), etc.

It is war! Of course there is harm waiting, go in with overwhelming power.

War is hell and should be absolute last resort. But if war is enacted it has to be all or nothing and the US doesn't operate this way, unfortunate for our soldiers & country.
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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5stars and congrats on the pin OP.
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I would appreciate a link to the source. Otherwise, I'm chalking this up to another one of those bullshit emailers that turn out to be outright lies.
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I sourced it to WND. It appears Maj Gen Henry did write the commentary, however, since it is WND, I will not believe it until I see General Henry verify it from his office.
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[link to www.wnd.com]

I sourced it to WND. It appears Maj Gen Henry did write the commentary, however, since it is WND, I will not believe it until I see General Henry verify it from his office.
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It pretty much confirms what we already knew about Obama.
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I would appreciate a link to the source. Otherwise, I'm chalking this up to another one of those bullshit emailers that turn out to be outright lies.
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Here's one for Panetta's limp wristed response

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It is all planned.

They all just play their part.

Stand in defiance, get thee behind me BAAL!!!!
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It's NOT his fault !

There are days when he can handle emergencies WITHOUT his morning BJ from his 'physical trainer' ! He does have trouble with a 'woody' when stressed.
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5 * good thread. thumbs
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5 stars OP!
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D. Dickhead ..... Go BACK to your backup job of assistant BJ for Bammy !
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From the WP story:

Mr. Panetta said the military had forces positioned to respond, but the situation was too uncertain to send them in.

Read more: Panetta: Benghazi intelligence too sketchy to send troops - Washington Times [link to www.washingtontimes.com]
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"Too uncertain" ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Uncertain? To damn bad!
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Excellent thread OP.bump
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Obama is a great actor.
By acting indecisive he accomplishes what he
is put there to do.
When America is attacked he will not order
a stand down.
He will equivocate, he will obfuscate,
he will dither until it is too late,
and he will accomplish the exact same results,
the total destruction of America.

He, and his communist cadre, despise America.
He said it from the beginning.
He wants to CHANGE America.

He WILL change America.
Into a radioactive wasteland,
from sea to shining sea.

That is why he is there,
and he will accomplish his purpose when
the time comes.
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Unfortunately.. I have to agree with all said here.
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obongo and panetta are communists, depleting the military is panetta's role in the US transition to communism.
My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi

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Did you see how Obama and Democrat Party are stalling progress on tax income ? If they don't pass anything, massive cutting for military...
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Exclusive: Gen. Patrick Brady explains why president abandoned Americans in Benghazi

By Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady , U.S. Army (ret.)

Now I understand! For years, many veterans and active military have been alarmed about the idiocy of the changes in battlefield aeromedical evacuation known as ‘Dustoff’. For reasons having nothing to do with patient care, Dustoff has been removed from the control of the professionals, the medics, and put under the control of amateurs, aviation staff officers, or ASOs. This is the first such change since the Civil War.

I document the unparalleled excellence of Dustoff, and the effects of the changes, in my book, “Dead Men Flying.”; Needless to say, it was the most outstanding battlefield operating system of that war – some one million souls saved and unprecedented survival rates. No warrior of Vietnam is more revered than the Dustoff crews.

In the words of Gen. Creighton Abrams, former U.S. Army chief of staff and former supreme commander in Vietnam: “A special word about the Dustoffs … Courage above and beyond the call of duty was sort of routine to them. It was a daily thing, part of the way they lived. That’s the great part, and it meant so much to every last man who served there. Whether he ever got hurt or not, he knew Dustoff was there. It was a great thing for our people.”;

Fast forward to current battlefields. We hear horror stories about patients waiting and dying because Dustoff didn’t launch or came too late. The launch standard in my unit in Vietnam was two minutes; today it is 15 minutes! Can anyone imagine a fire truck taking 15 minutes to get under way? I could go on and on, but one has to ask, why? Why the changes to an excellent, proven system? The answer is the Obama-Panetta Doctrine. In response to the horrible abandonment of dying Americans in Benghazi , Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”;
On its face, that is a remarkable, indeed incomprehensible, change from America ’s doctrine in past wars. By that standard, there would have been no Normandy or Inchon . In fact, I can’t think of a war we fought in which we didn’t go into harm’s way without real-time information or to save lives – something the president refused to do in Benghazi . Dustoff would never launch in Vietnam under that doctrine.

To fully understand the doctrinal change, one has to
understand President Obama. He has a dearth of understanding of our military and military matters. We hear he is uncomfortable in the presence of ranking military and seldom meets with them. He is not a person who can make decisions, and he takes an extraordinary amount of time to do so, leading to such unseemly labels for a commander in chief as “Ditherer-in-Chief.”;

President Obama may have set records for voting “present” on important issues. He cowers from crisis decisions.He is a politician who thinks only in terms of votes, and his own image. Although I was a psychology major back in the day (I’d love to hear a professional analyze risk and Obama), I won’t try to define his insides, but I believe he is risk-averse – fearful of risk – and that is the basis of the Obama-Panetta doctrine.
This aversion for risk dominates Dustoff rescue operations where, in addition to an unconscionable reaction time, risk assessment is the primary consideration for mission launch – not patient care. In two years flying Dustoff in Vietnam , I never heard that term, nor did any Dust pilot I know. The ASOs, remote from the battle, have developed time-consuming algorithms to analyze risk while the patient bleeds, something that’s impossible to do by anyone other than the pilot and the ground forces at the scene.

Obama’s aversion to risk contributed to the massacre of Americans by terrorists in Benghazi . We hear that the president did not even convene the Counterterrorism SecurityGroup while the Benghazi terrorist massacre was visually and verbally available in real time. That is like ignoring FEMA during Hurricane Sandy. But once you bring in a group labeled anti-terrorist, you have to acknowledge terror exists, something the president is loath to do.

My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama.

America needs to listen to these veterans. They understand leadership. They know how to deal with risk in war. They would not want this man with them in combat or crisis. They never left a needy comrade behind. Obama did.
Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady, retired from the U.S. Army, is a recipient of the United States military’s highest decoration, the Medal of Honor.
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Obama dug his own grave by siding with the Shadow Government. Most likely lots of blackmail is going on.
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5 * good thread. thumbs
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Half this needs to go.....
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It’s a new world people we lost the election. Everything is on the table our military our tax rates, our country.
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Sorry D I can't agree with you on this one. How quickly we forget Custer and Black Hawk Down. Nobody has even touched on why in Benghazi there was a 2 hour lag between the initial attack/the movement of the Ambassador/the final assault. I would proffer that they were waiting for just such a rescue attempt. Add to this an URBAN situation not the bush mainly as in Vietnam. This was the perfect situation to wipe out the rescue forces ala Mogadishu and make a horrific situation far worse.

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