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| No Dhimmi (OP) User ID: 1945985 11/30/2012 08:23 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the pin request! Proud Infidel !!! The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape. If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts. Bukhari:V4B52N268 "Allah's Apostle said, 'War is deceit.'" In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." ~ Founding Father, George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment. [link to www.faithfreedom.org] [link to thereligionofpeace.com] [link to prophetofdoom.net] [link to www.bibleprobe.com] [link to www.fatherzakaria.net] Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate. |
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| uscrusader1 User ID: 9491757 11/30/2012 08:33 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | obongo and panetta are communists, depleting the military is panetta's role in the US transition to communism. My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama. Quoting: No Dhimmi US Infidelis |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1723249 11/30/2012 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama is a great actor. By acting indecisive he accomplishes what he is put there to do. When America is attacked he will not order a stand down. He will equivocate, he will obfuscate, he will dither until it is too late, and he will accomplish the exact same results, the total destruction of America. He, and his communist cadre, despise America. He said it from the beginning. He wants to CHANGE America. He WILL change America. Into a radioactive wasteland, from sea to shining sea. That is why he is there, and he will accomplish his purpose when the time comes. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28084626 11/30/2012 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”; I read this a couple weeks back and it struck me as the dumbest, most moronic, incomprehensible, idiotic, biggest load of crap, (insert adjective here), etc. It is war! Of course there is harm waiting, go in with overwhelming power. War is hell and should be absolute last resort. But if war is enacted it has to be all or nothing and the US doesn't operate this way, unfortunate for our soldiers & country. |
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| DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith User ID: 1503533 11/30/2012 09:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would appreciate a link to the source. Otherwise, I'm chalking this up to another one of those bullshit emailers that turn out to be outright lies. "I'm a badass cowboy livin' on the west side---me and Artimus Clyde Frog gonna save Selma Hyak from a big metal spider." Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "It tells me, goose stepping morons like yourself should try reading books instead of burning them!" Henry Jones, JR. "Last Crusade." The CIA didn't kill Kennedy, a pissed off mob boss did! |
| DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith User ID: 1503533 11/30/2012 09:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wnd.com] I sourced it to WND. It appears Maj Gen Henry did write the commentary, however, since it is WND, I will not believe it until I see General Henry verify it from his office. "I'm a badass cowboy livin' on the west side---me and Artimus Clyde Frog gonna save Selma Hyak from a big metal spider." Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "It tells me, goose stepping morons like yourself should try reading books instead of burning them!" Henry Jones, JR. "Last Crusade." The CIA didn't kill Kennedy, a pissed off mob boss did! |
| LimaIndiaSierra User ID: 25607604 11/30/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.wnd.com] Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith I sourced it to WND. It appears Maj Gen Henry did write the commentary, however, since it is WND, I will not believe it until I see General Henry verify it from his office. It pretty much confirms what we already knew about Obama. |
| G. Patton User ID: 28084626 11/30/2012 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would appreciate a link to the source. Otherwise, I'm chalking this up to another one of those bullshit emailers that turn out to be outright lies. Quoting: DarthDickheadus:AmericanSith Here's one for Panetta's limp wristed response [link to www.washingtontimes.com] |
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| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 11/30/2012 09:20 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 * good thread. "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. |
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| G. Patton User ID: 28084626 11/30/2012 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the WP story: Mr. Panetta said the military had forces positioned to respond, but the situation was too uncertain to send them in. Read more: Panetta: Benghazi intelligence too sketchy to send troops - Washington Times [link to www.washingtontimes.com] Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter "Too uncertain" ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Uncertain? To damn bad! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23290196 11/30/2012 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama is a great actor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1723249 By acting indecisive he accomplishes what he is put there to do. When America is attacked he will not order a stand down. He will equivocate, he will obfuscate, he will dither until it is too late, and he will accomplish the exact same results, the total destruction of America. He, and his communist cadre, despise America. He said it from the beginning. He wants to CHANGE America. He WILL change America. Into a radioactive wasteland, from sea to shining sea. That is why he is there, and he will accomplish his purpose when the time comes. Unfortunately.. I have to agree with all said here. |
| AlcoholicRunner I run and drink at the same time. User ID: 23182389 11/30/2012 09:27 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | obongo and panetta are communists, depleting the military is panetta's role in the US transition to communism. Quoting: uscrusader1 My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama. Quoting: No Dhimmi Did you see how Obama and Democrat Party are stalling progress on tax income ? If they don't pass anything, massive cutting for military... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28744097 11/30/2012 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exclusive: Gen. Patrick Brady explains why president abandoned Americans in Benghazi Quoting: No Dhimmi By Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady , U.S. Army (ret.) Now I understand! For years, many veterans and active military have been alarmed about the idiocy of the changes in battlefield aeromedical evacuation known as ‘Dustoff’. For reasons having nothing to do with patient care, Dustoff has been removed from the control of the professionals, the medics, and put under the control of amateurs, aviation staff officers, or ASOs. This is the first such change since the Civil War. I document the unparalleled excellence of Dustoff, and the effects of the changes, in my book, “Dead Men Flying.”; Needless to say, it was the most outstanding battlefield operating system of that war – some one million souls saved and unprecedented survival rates. No warrior of Vietnam is more revered than the Dustoff crews. In the words of Gen. Creighton Abrams, former U.S. Army chief of staff and former supreme commander in Vietnam: “A special word about the Dustoffs … Courage above and beyond the call of duty was sort of routine to them. It was a daily thing, part of the way they lived. That’s the great part, and it meant so much to every last man who served there. Whether he ever got hurt or not, he knew Dustoff was there. It was a great thing for our people.”; Fast forward to current battlefields. We hear horror stories about patients waiting and dying because Dustoff didn’t launch or came too late. The launch standard in my unit in Vietnam was two minutes; today it is 15 minutes! Can anyone imagine a fire truck taking 15 minutes to get under way? I could go on and on, but one has to ask, why? Why the changes to an excellent, proven system? The answer is the Obama-Panetta Doctrine. In response to the horrible abandonment of dying Americans in Benghazi , Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”; On its face, that is a remarkable, indeed incomprehensible, change from America ’s doctrine in past wars. By that standard, there would have been no Normandy or Inchon . In fact, I can’t think of a war we fought in which we didn’t go into harm’s way without real-time information or to save lives – something the president refused to do in Benghazi . Dustoff would never launch in Vietnam under that doctrine. To fully understand the doctrinal change, one has to understand President Obama. He has a dearth of understanding of our military and military matters. We hear he is uncomfortable in the presence of ranking military and seldom meets with them. He is not a person who can make decisions, and he takes an extraordinary amount of time to do so, leading to such unseemly labels for a commander in chief as “Ditherer-in-Chief.”; President Obama may have set records for voting “present” on important issues. He cowers from crisis decisions.He is a politician who thinks only in terms of votes, and his own image. Although I was a psychology major back in the day (I’d love to hear a professional analyze risk and Obama), I won’t try to define his insides, but I believe he is risk-averse – fearful of risk – and that is the basis of the Obama-Panetta doctrine. This aversion for risk dominates Dustoff rescue operations where, in addition to an unconscionable reaction time, risk assessment is the primary consideration for mission launch – not patient care. In two years flying Dustoff in Vietnam , I never heard that term, nor did any Dust pilot I know. The ASOs, remote from the battle, have developed time-consuming algorithms to analyze risk while the patient bleeds, something that’s impossible to do by anyone other than the pilot and the ground forces at the scene. Obama’s aversion to risk contributed to the massacre of Americans by terrorists in Benghazi . We hear that the president did not even convene the Counterterrorism SecurityGroup while the Benghazi terrorist massacre was visually and verbally available in real time. That is like ignoring FEMA during Hurricane Sandy. But once you bring in a group labeled anti-terrorist, you have to acknowledge terror exists, something the president is loath to do. My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama. America needs to listen to these veterans. They understand leadership. They know how to deal with risk in war. They would not want this man with them in combat or crisis. They never left a needy comrade behind. Obama did. Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady, retired from the U.S. Army, is a recipient of the United States military’s highest decoration, the Medal of Honor. When will you people understand how you're being used? |
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| ANNONYMOUS User ID: 8415236 11/30/2012 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() Sorry D I can't agree with you on this one. How quickly we forget Custer and Black Hawk Down. Nobody has even touched on why in Benghazi there was a 2 hour lag between the initial attack/the movement of the Ambassador/the final assault. I would proffer that they were waiting for just such a rescue attempt. Add to this an URBAN situation not the bush mainly as in Vietnam. This was the perfect situation to wipe out the rescue forces ala Mogadishu and make a horrific situation far worse. |