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The stated goals of TPTB is to completely destroy the United States, and our government is doing everything they can to fulfill this wish. Watch what's happening, they are doing it while laughing in our faces that we can't stop them. And they are right. The people are so dumbed down that they accept it while laughing WITH the TPTB....
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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Since when are we at war with Benghazi? All of you arm chair Generals need to look at all the facts. There has been no declaration of war with Benghazi so political protocols still take precedent there. Yes our embassy was being attacked, yes he could have ordered an intervention. That being said, what else was going on that the public doesn't know about? People need to know the facts before making Judgement.

Though it does not sit well with me to leave people behind, much less leave people to die there are pieces of that puzzle that remain missing. An investigation needs to be done so that all the facts are known before passing judgement.
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obongo is a muzzie, he can't do anything against 'his own'
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” Barack Obongo, from his book, "The Audacity of Hope",
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And that's really all there is to it folks. This sums up everything you see happening.

What about the "No" vote at the UN yesterday then? Well obviously Obama knew the US could vote no, and the measure will still pass. That way he keeps the charade alive that he "supports" Israel, while smirking at the actual outcome.
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Hate to say this but don't you think that it is time for impeachment procedings??
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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yes

5stars and congrats on the pin OP.
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ohyeah

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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yes

5stars and congrats on the pin OP.
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ohyeah

coffee4

Oops, sorry about the double post.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

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When you have a systemic problem it is not the fault of one individual.These problems we are facing have been coming down the pike for years.I am not a supporter of obama ,personally I think Ron Paul would have been great or gary johnson.We need to put a stop to the military and prison industrial complex in america.It is not only destroying this nation,but destroying lives around the world.How sad that we didnt support massoud in afghanistan,or the kurdish rebels in iraq before hand when we had clear intelligence on who the (enemy) was.While bin ladin and his buddies were hiding out in pakistan with the I.S.I. Massoud successfully whipped the soviets and proceeded to kicking taliban ass as well,he was the george washington of afghanistan,he believed in womens rights and democracy and instead we supported the taliban how foolish.The true mujahadeen were the northern alliance not the taliban ,but they wont teach you this in text books or in the news because they dont want us the american people to really understand what has happened.
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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I for one am a professional analyst and can state unequivocally that dear leader is the epiotome of a pathologic narcissist, to the point of overt sociopathy, he has to hide truth and distort facts at every opportunity to have his way in virtually everything.
A man who must control the flow of facts is intending to proctect himself from the consequences of the truth being free
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Its interesting how this thread was presented.


Dustoff crews and such...

The Military folks people should take great care in listening to would be Eisenhower, and Smedly Butler.

I don't think it would hurt to listen to Jesse Ventura.

Military organizations hve spiraled into nothing more than Gangsters for Banksters.

Military Banksta Gangsta should tatoo Exon, Shell, or BP on their arm rather than the American Flag.

Where has our Military been while the Banksta Gangsta has ass raped the planet?

Groveling.
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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I for one am a professional analyst and can state unequivocally that dear leader is the epiotome of a pathologic narcissist, to the point of overt sociopathy, he has to hide truth and distort facts at every opportunity to have his way in virtually everything.
A man who must control the flow of facts is intending to proctect himself from the consequences of the truth being free
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in point of fact essentially all that strive for control over others are, to a degree narcissists that seek to force those they have power over to continually have to account for themselves so that those in power can be spared haveing to account for themselves. That's why rulers are almost never benign enough to allow their subjects to formulate unfavorable opinions and act on them, rather they are sent on endless chases over ever increasingly higher hurdles.
It never ends well, every organization of any importance or potential power is headed by a narcissist of some degree.
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Its interesting how this thread was presented.


Dustoff crews and such...

The Military folks people should take great care in listening to would be Eisenhower, and Smedly Butler.

I don't think it would hurt to listen to Jesse Ventura.

Military organizations hve spiraled into nothing more than Gangsters for Banksters.

Military Banksta Gangsta should tatoo Exon, Shell, or BP on their arm rather than the American Flag.

Where has our Military been while the Banksta Gangsta has ass raped the planet?

Groveling.
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When you work for a narcissist, you will be given nothing of value in return other than it being less or equal to the prevailing wage, and you will not be given any credit for it in public.
Those that honestly 'do' rarely ever get to be those that achieve control, rather those that can make OTHERS do, get to the top
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When Panetta was saying they couldn't send in anyone to help because they didn't know the conditions, I did question that at the time.

That's the purpose of a rapid response team. They always go in before the conditions on the ground are known.

Well, at least they used to do that. Maybe not any more.
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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5***** and bump
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Its interesting how this thread was presented.


Dustoff crews and such...

The Military folks people should take great care in listening to would be Eisenhower, and Smedly Butler.

I don't think it would hurt to listen to Jesse Ventura.

Military organizations hve spiraled into nothing more than Gangsters for Banksters.

Military Banksta Gangsta should tatoo Exon, Shell, or BP on their arm rather than the American Flag.

Where has our Military been while the Banksta Gangsta has ass raped the planet?

Groveling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28779068


When you work for a narcissist, you will be given nothing of value in return other than it being less or equal to the prevailing wage, and you will not be given any credit for it in public.
Those that honestly 'do' rarely ever get to be those that achieve control, rather those that can make OTHERS do, get to the top
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when you get a collection of high function narcissists together, they inevitaable try to out narcissist one another, leading to an ever greater spiral of abuse, waste and eventual looting destrution of everything and all under them
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When Panetta was saying they couldn't send in anyone to help because they didn't know the conditions, I did question that at the time.

That's the purpose of a rapid response team. They always go in before the conditions on the ground are known.

Well, at least they used to do that. Maybe not any more.
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think about it, they had drones watching in real time, and seals on the ground in radio contact providing a sitrep in real time.
How much more information do you need?
Apparently the glitter and unicorn information was still being sought.

One thing you have to be aware of with liars is that if you accept their premises automatically, they can never lose against you
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The Whore= America of Babylon= The UN

Get it now?
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Obama is not an American. When Americans break the rules to have a forgiener run the country and the military they should not be suprized at the results.

Barry needs to go back to indonesia and puff peters.
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Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”;

I read this a couple weeks back and it struck me as the dumbest, most moronic, incomprehensible, idiotic, biggest load of crap, (insert adjective here), etc.

It is war! Of course there is harm waiting, go in with overwhelming power.

War is hell and should be absolute last resort. But if war is enacted it has to be all or nothing and the US doesn't operate this way, unfortunate for our soldiers & country.
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To make Panetta an even bigger liar, remember there was at least one drone overhead, and one with about a 130mph top speed.....so it took some time to get it there, in time for the show that was being watched from it.....

Something to ponder...
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Since when are we at war with Benghazi? All of you arm chair Generals need to look at all the facts. There has been no declaration of war with Benghazi so political protocols still take precedent there. Yes our embassy was being attacked, yes he could have ordered an intervention. That being said, what else was going on that the public doesn't know about? People need to know the facts before making Judgement.

Though it does not sit well with me to leave people behind, much less leave people to die there are pieces of that puzzle that remain missing. An investigation needs to be done so that all the facts are known before passing judgement.
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The attack was on American soil. Not Benghazi.

Do you know nothing about history?
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Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”;

I read this a couple weeks back and it struck me as the dumbest, most moronic, incomprehensible, idiotic, biggest load of crap, (insert adjective here), etc.

It is war! Of course there is harm waiting, go in with overwhelming power.

War is hell and should be absolute last resort. But if war is enacted it has to be all or nothing and the US doesn't operate this way, unfortunate for our soldiers & country.
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As a former Marine......OBAMA is simply a pussy......he can not make decisions quickly......would not him as my Commander!!!! Or to "lead" anyone I know and love!!!

AND HE LEADS THE ENTIRE COUNTRYwtfnorespect
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I also got word from a PA national guard contact that the military came to all PA national guard bases and took everything in their armories. Anyone hear of anything like this anywhere else?
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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This!!!

He's so far beyond "derelict," simple impeachment (allowing him to go on his merry way with no further accountability) is no longer an option in my mind.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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That's because Obama gave weapons to the same terrorists who attacked the US embassy.
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Just like he did to drug lords in Mexico.
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It’s a new world people we lost the election. Everything is on the table our military our tax rates, our country.
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It wasn't lost....it was stolen.
LOTS of info about that in the swing states related to voting fraud.

Google it.


You are now living in a defacto Dictatorship.
...and they are going to town in the next 4 years.

retread
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Good read and makes sense to me.

At the least, Dustoff needs to take 2 mins if not less, 15 mins is ridiculous.
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Exclusive: Gen. Patrick Brady explains why president abandoned Americans in Benghazi

By Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady , U.S. Army (ret.)

Now I understand! For years, many veterans and active military have been alarmed about the idiocy of the changes in battlefield aeromedical evacuation known as ‘Dustoff’. For reasons having nothing to do with patient care, Dustoff has been removed from the control of the professionals, the medics, and put under the control of amateurs, aviation staff officers, or ASOs. This is the first such change since the Civil War.

I document the unparalleled excellence of Dustoff, and the effects of the changes, in my book, “Dead Men Flying.”; Needless to say, it was the most outstanding battlefield operating system of that war – some one million souls saved and unprecedented survival rates. No warrior of Vietnam is more revered than the Dustoff crews.

In the words of Gen. Creighton Abrams, former U.S. Army chief of staff and former supreme commander in Vietnam: “A special word about the Dustoffs … Courage above and beyond the call of duty was sort of routine to them. It was a daily thing, part of the way they lived. That’s the great part, and it meant so much to every last man who served there. Whether he ever got hurt or not, he knew Dustoff was there. It was a great thing for our people.”;

Fast forward to current battlefields. We hear horror stories about patients waiting and dying because Dustoff didn’t launch or came too late. The launch standard in my unit in Vietnam was two minutes; today it is 15 minutes! Can anyone imagine a fire truck taking 15 minutes to get under way? I could go on and on, but one has to ask, why? Why the changes to an excellent, proven system? The answer is the Obama-Panetta Doctrine. In response to the horrible abandonment of dying Americans in Benghazi , Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”;
On its face, that is a remarkable, indeed incomprehensible, change from America ’s doctrine in past wars. By that standard, there would have been no Normandy or Inchon . In fact, I can’t think of a war we fought in which we didn’t go into harm’s way without real-time information or to save lives – something the president refused to do in Benghazi . Dustoff would never launch in Vietnam under that doctrine.

To fully understand the doctrinal change, one has to
understand President Obama. He has a dearth of understanding of our military and military matters. We hear he is uncomfortable in the presence of ranking military and seldom meets with them. He is not a person who can make decisions, and he takes an extraordinary amount of time to do so, leading to such unseemly labels for a commander in chief as “Ditherer-in-Chief.”;

President Obama may have set records for voting “present” on important issues. He cowers from crisis decisions.He is a politician who thinks only in terms of votes, and his own image. Although I was a psychology major back in the day (I’d love to hear a professional analyze risk and Obama), I won’t try to define his insides, but I believe he is risk-averse – fearful of risk – and that is the basis of the Obama-Panetta doctrine.
This aversion for risk dominates Dustoff rescue operations where, in addition to an unconscionable reaction time, risk assessment is the primary consideration for mission launch – not patient care. In two years flying Dustoff in Vietnam , I never heard that term, nor did any Dust pilot I know. The ASOs, remote from the battle, have developed time-consuming algorithms to analyze risk while the patient bleeds, something that’s impossible to do by anyone other than the pilot and the ground forces at the scene.

Obama’s aversion to risk contributed to the massacre of Americans by terrorists in Benghazi . We hear that the president did not even convene the Counterterrorism SecurityGroup while the Benghazi terrorist massacre was visually and verbally available in real time. That is like ignoring FEMA during Hurricane Sandy. But once you bring in a group labeled anti-terrorist, you have to acknowledge terror exists, something the president is loath to do.

My veteran friends are horrified by the Obama-Panetta doctrine. At least 359 retired flag officers supported Mitt Romney – only five that I know of supported Obama. Some 150 former prisoners of war also supported Romney; I know of none who supported Obama.

America needs to listen to these veterans. They understand leadership. They know how to deal with risk in war. They would not want this man with them in combat or crisis. They never left a needy comrade behind. Obama did.
Maj. Gen. Patrick Brady, retired from the U.S. Army, is a recipient of the United States military’s highest decoration, the Medal of Honor.
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Since when are we at war with Benghazi? All of you arm chair Generals need to look at all the facts. There has been no declaration of war with Benghazi so political protocols still take precedent there. Yes our embassy was being attacked, yes he could have ordered an intervention. That being said, what else was going on that the public doesn't know about? People need to know the facts before making Judgement.

Though it does not sit well with me to leave people behind, much less leave people to die there are pieces of that puzzle that remain missing. An investigation needs to be done so that all the facts are known before passing judgement.
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those who dont defend their property or their rights will in short order have them taken away by their competitors

You seem to think any of this will stop if simply nothing is done, and that doesnt work with muzzies, they take until those they take from disappear
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Defense Secretary Panetta said: “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.”;

I read this a couple weeks back and it struck me as the dumbest, most moronic, incomprehensible, idiotic, biggest load of crap, (insert adjective here), etc.

It is war! Of course there is harm waiting, go in with overwhelming power.

War is hell and should be absolute last resort. But if war is enacted it has to be all or nothing and the US doesn't operate this way, unfortunate for our soldiers & country.
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As a former Marine......OBAMA is simply a pussy......he can not make decisions quickly......would not him as my Commander!!!! Or to "lead" anyone I know and love!!!

AND HE LEADS THE ENTIRE COUNTRYwtfnorespect
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and, as a former marine, you know what happens to those that are unlucky enough to be assigned to a leader that cant make a fit decision for any reason.
Leaders that lie make their followers die, because they cannot, or will not respond to reality, preferring some alternate perception instead.
Bad commanders get their folks killed, for no good reason and for no good outcome
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yes but when are one of these generals going to have enough balls to do something about him....

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