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BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.

 
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BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
This is a huge win for the Constitution and Bill of Rights for all Americans!!

Last night, the U.S. Senate voted on Amendment No. 3018 to the National Defense Authorization Act sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Mike Lee (R-Utah), and co-sponsored by Sen. Rand Paul, which protects the rights prescribed to Americans in the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution with regard to indefinite detention and the right to a trial by jury.

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Although Rand lacks the wisdom and charm of his father, I would still for him in 2016.
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Liberty is on the March!

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Rand lost all the support I once had for him. Just another person who got paid off or blackmailed.
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Although Rand lacks the wisdom and charm of his father, I would still for him in 2016.
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Rand is the trojan horse being sent into the Republican party to take it back from the neocons. That is why he endorsed Romney. Go Rand Go!!!
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Re: BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
In order to override any veto from the WH, Congress will have to pass this measure by a 2/3 majority vote. Do we have that many votes in Congress?
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Re: BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
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STAGED NWO THEATRE
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Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
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You are retarded. Dem & Reps are NWO controlled.

THEY ARE ON THE SAME TEAM.
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So what, Obama still got his secret kill list.
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Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: GLOCKFORAKAL


You are retarded. Dem & Reps are NWO controlled.

THEY ARE ON THE SAME TEAM.
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Nah Ron Paul was NOT NWO controlled, shill.
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Re: BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: GLOCKFORAKAL


You are retarded. Dem & Reps are NWO controlled.

THEY ARE ON THE SAME TEAM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246336


as a whole, I agree, but, maybe, enlightenment IS coming (it's really common-sense!!).... so, if my brethren will be controlled by these pieces of paper... yahoo!!!!!!

Should be pinned!!!
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Re: BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: GLOCKFORAKAL


I agree with you 110%
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Rand lost all the support I once had for him. Just another person who got paid off or blackmailed.
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YOU ARE WRONG. Rand Paul is still pro-liberty, anti-socialist, anti-NWO, pro-Constitution and always has been/always will be. You need to use your brain. Ron Paul's whole career was against the grain and it got him nowhere. Rand will play the game until he is POTUS, at which time he will destroy their oppressive government and reinstate the Constitution. I cannot say I have insider information, or have any links for you, just look at what he says with a discerning heart, from several years ago, up until present day. He is our last and only hope in 2016.
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Re: BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
If Ron was blackballed by the elite what makes you think Rand will have a different outcome? Joining the enemy who will only use Rand but never allow him to be President is meaningless. All its going to accomplish is to have us pin our hopes on a sure loser in 2016.

We have no choice, its time to completely break away from the entrenched system of Republicans versus Democrats. We have to start of 3rd party and stay with it no matter what the outcome in 2016. We have to take a Strategic view for the long term. The short term is lost no matter what we do. Also, We cannot allow rank and file Republicans to infiltrate the new party. We have to have a strictly stated platform of Freedom and not deviate from that path. Lest we fall into the same mistakes the tea party experienced the last few years.

The illusion of us infiltrating the Republican party and arresting control is hogwash. This is an entrenched system that's been around for many many years and its not going to give up the ghost no matter what the cost. Even if it involves openly cheating like they did to Ron. I hate to say it but its probably going to take 15-20 years to reverse the course. The damage has already been done and we can't stop the current path. But we do have the power to make big changes in the future if we stick to our beliefs.
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Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: GLOCKFORAKAL


I agree with you 110%
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Thank you! At least I know someone in here has common sense.
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Rand lost all the support I once had for him. Just another person who got paid off or blackmailed.
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YOU ARE WRONG. Rand Paul is still pro-liberty, anti-socialist, anti-NWO, pro-Constitution and always has been/always will be. You need to use your brain. Ron Paul's whole career was against the grain and it got him nowhere. Rand will play the game until he is POTUS, at which time he will destroy their oppressive government and reinstate the Constitution. I cannot say I have insider information, or have any links for you, just look at what he says with a discerning heart, from several years ago, up until present day. He is our last and only hope in 2016.
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clappa
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Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: GLOCKFORAKAL


You are retarded. Dem & Reps are NWO controlled.

THEY ARE ON THE SAME TEAM.
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Nah Ron Paul was NOT NWO controlled, shill.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot

Ron Paul is a 9/11 cover up traitor. Ron Paul supports globalism and "free trade". Ron Paul does nothing about the poisons in our food, air and water. This is NWO agenda. Best of the worst is still bad.
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Re: BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
'The heart of the Feinstein amendment:

"An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, UNLESS AN ACT OF CONGRESS EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZES SUCH DETENTION."

Well, that Act of Congress is the 2012 NDAA, which renders the rest of the Feinstein amendment meaningless.'

[link to www.economicpolicyjournal.com]
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Rand lost all the support I once had for him. Just another person who got paid off or blackmailed.
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YOU ARE WRONG. Rand Paul is still pro-liberty, anti-socialist, anti-NWO, pro-Constitution and always has been/always will be. You need to use your brain. Ron Paul's whole career was against the grain and it got him nowhere. Rand will play the game until he is POTUS, at which time he will destroy their oppressive government and reinstate the Constitution. I cannot say I have insider information, or have any links for you, just look at what he says with a discerning heart, from several years ago, up until present day. He is our last and only hope in 2016.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot

that what was said about ron paul. and how did that work out?

any politician that does not support 9/11 truth is a traitor.
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Although Rand lacks the wisdom and charm of his father, I would still for him in 2016.
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He isn't running.
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Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: GLOCKFORAKAL


No.

They will put up Jeb Bush.

And you all will love it.
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'The heart of the Feinstein amendment:

"An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, UNLESS AN ACT OF CONGRESS EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZES SUCH DETENTION."

Well, that Act of Congress is the 2012 NDAA, which renders the rest of the Feinstein amendment meaningless.'

[link to www.economicpolicyjournal.com]
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The amendment passed, 67-29. Wonder who voted against it?

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The amendment passed, 67-29. Wonder who voted against it?
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Alphabetical by Senator Name
Akaka (D-HI), Yea
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Ayotte (R-NH), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Yea
Begich (D-AK), Yea
Bennet (D-CO), Yea
Bingaman (D-NM), Yea
Blumenthal (D-CT), Yea
Blunt (R-MO), Yea
Boozman (R-AR), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Brown (D-OH), Yea
Brown (R-MA), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Nay
Cantwell (D-WA), Yea
Cardin (D-MD), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Casey (D-PA), Yea
Chambliss (R-GA), Nay
Coats (R-IN), Nay
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Nay
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Coons (D-DE), Yea
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Nay
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
DeMint (R-SC), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Yea
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Franken (D-MN), Yea
Gillibrand (D-NY), Yea
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Nay
Hagan (D-NC), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Yea
Hatch (R-UT), Nay
Heller (R-NV), Not Voting
Hoeven (R-ND), Yea
Hutchison (R-TX), Nay
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Nay
Johanns (R-NE), Nay
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Johnson (R-WI), Nay
Kerry (D-MA), Yea
Kirk (R-IL), Not Voting
Klobuchar (D-MN), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Kyl (R-AZ), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
Leahy (D-VT), Yea
Lee (R-UT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Yea
Lieberman (ID-CT), Nay
Lugar (R-IN), Nay
Manchin (D-WV), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Yea
McConnell (R-KY), Nay
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Merkley (D-OR), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Moran (R-KS), Yea
Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murray (D-WA), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
Paul (R-KY), Yea
Portman (R-OH), Nay
Pryor (D-AR), Nay
Reed (D-RI), Yea
Reid (D-NV), Yea
Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Nay
Rockefeller (D-WV), Not Voting
Rubio (R-FL), Nay
Sanders (I-VT), Yea
Schumer (D-NY), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Nay
Shaheen (D-NH), Yea
Shelby (R-AL), Nay
Snowe (R-ME), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea
Tester (D-MT), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Nay
Toomey (R-PA), Nay
Udall (D-CO), Yea
Udall (D-NM), Yea
Vitter (R-LA), Nay
Warner (D-VA), Yea
Webb (D-VA), Yea
Whitehouse (D-RI), Yea
Wicker (R-MS), Nay
Wyden (D-OR), Not Voting
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Re: BREAKING: Sen. Rand Paul declares victory over NDAA for Americans' right to trial by jury.
Ask yourself this question.

Why did Rand Paul support Romney?

Then think about it this way in a military strategy. Rand Paul has been raised, taught, and influenced for 49 years by his father Ron Paul who is known as the father of the modern liberty movement. Right? Right! His father is incredibly smart and knows what he is doing in regards to spreading the message of Liberty.

Now. What is the best way to take your enemy down besides blowing them to pieces? From within the inside.

I beleive Ron is using Rand as a trojan horse to gain a broader respect of most if not everyone who voted for Romney in order to secure Rand as the republican presidential candidate for 2016.

Thoughts?
 Quoting: GLOCKFORAKAL


You are retarded. Dem & Reps are NWO controlled.

THEY ARE ON THE SAME TEAM.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246336



Nah Ron Paul was NOT NWO controlled, shill.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Very much so. He was never NWO controlled.
How many of us remember his newsletters and campaign for liberty.
Anyway; that's above some people's heads that you can actually infiltrate the system as an outsider and still win at their game.
It is very possible.
Rand Paul needs to look like a nwo stooge sometimes to fool opposition ; enough said.
If you were in his position it would be impossible to do otherwise.
Get a grip guys.

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