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Tin foil hat and a sleep mask FTW.
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What are you going to do when the bees, butterflies and birds become extinct?

What will you eat? Twinkies? They are extinct. ;-)
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I'm going to start eating silver!
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As someone who has been studying radio waves to a great extent as I had hoped to work in this field. The more I began to study how these worked in class the more unsettled I was by the immense saturation we are undergoing.

One day my professor commented on my bluetooth headset. Now bluetooth is a PAN network with a relatively small range used many types of devices but the most common being headsets. She said she would never use them and does not trust something like this attached to her head for prolonged periods of time.

We got into a discussion on the validity of her efforts to avoid exposure. I told her, "but even though I am wearing them and the headset is receiving them directly next to my brain, doesn't mean that I am not exposure her and everyone in the classroom to the same levels of exposure." Sure for the brief moments when I use the headset to send a signal such as pause or volume increase yes for a brief moment I am transmitting directly next to my brain but that changes nothing about overall exposure for all of us.

It has put me at quite the moral dilemma as I had been planning on starting my own network and wireless installation business. It was to focus primarily on nursing homes, elderly community centers, and schools. If the saturation of these waves is indeed causing anxiety, depression, insomnia, and cancer....well it's clear where my moral dilemma lies.
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no wonder steve jobs died from cancer... cell phones
I look up at the sky, and wonder where I am on earth. Then I wonder where I am in the solar system. Then I wonder where I am in the galaxy. Then I wonder where I am in the universe. Then I wonder what universe am I in.
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Does the extinction of birds, butterflies and bees have any connection to your increased stress, headaches, lack of good sleep, and even cancer?

Your brain and your breasts are being bombarded.

[link to vimeo.com]
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As someone who has been studying radio waves to a great extent as I had hoped to work in this field. The more I began to study how these worked in class the more unsettled I was by the immense saturation we are undergoing.

One day my professor commented on my bluetooth headset. Now bluetooth is a PAN network with a relatively small range used many types of devices but the most common being headsets. She said she would never use them and does not trust something like this attached to her head for prolonged periods of time.

We got into a discussion on the validity of her efforts to avoid exposure. I told her, "but even though I am wearing them and the headset is receiving them directly next to my brain, doesn't mean that I am not exposure her and everyone in the classroom to the same levels of exposure." Sure for the brief moments when I use the headset to send a signal such as pause or volume increase yes for a brief moment I am transmitting directly next to my brain but that changes nothing about overall exposure for all of us.

It has put me at quite the moral dilemma as I had been planning on starting my own network and wireless installation business. It was to focus primarily on nursing homes, elderly community centers, and schools. If the saturation of these waves is indeed causing anxiety, depression, insomnia, and cancer....well it's clear where my moral dilemma lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15680976


AC, you can model your business with a conscientious effort to make your services as environmentally friendly as possible. That could stand your business apart from others and make you more competitive in a niche market.

Where some companies might adhere to government set limits you can set your limits well below that threshold. You can market RF shielding and include detection and promote RF hazard awareness as part of your service to your customers.

And if you make lots of money you can donate a percent to environmental charities and health services.

What these dicks at the mobile telecoms are doing is trying to bury the problem behind colluded studies and whitewashed organizations. You don't have to be a part of that.

Last Edited by Nexus-9 on 12/01/2012 05:18 PM
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

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"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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As someone who has been studying radio waves to a great extent as I had hoped to work in this field. The more I began to study how these worked in class the more unsettled I was by the immense saturation we are undergoing.

One day my professor commented on my bluetooth headset. Now bluetooth is a PAN network with a relatively small range used many types of devices but the most common being headsets. She said she would never use them and does not trust something like this attached to her head for prolonged periods of time.

We got into a discussion on the validity of her efforts to avoid exposure. I told her, "but even though I am wearing them and the headset is receiving them directly next to my brain, doesn't mean that I am not exposure her and everyone in the classroom to the same levels of exposure." Sure for the brief moments when I use the headset to send a signal such as pause or volume increase yes for a brief moment I am transmitting directly next to my brain but that changes nothing about overall exposure for all of us.

It has put me at quite the moral dilemma as I had been planning on starting my own network and wireless installation business. It was to focus primarily on nursing homes, elderly community centers, and schools. If the saturation of these waves is indeed causing anxiety, depression, insomnia, and cancer....well it's clear where my moral dilemma lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15680976


AC, you can model your business with a conscientious effort to make your services as environmentally friendly as possible. That could stand your business apart from others and make you more competitive in a niche market.

Where some companies might adhere to government set limits you can set your limits well below that threshold. You can market RF shielding and include detection and promote RF hazard awareness as part of your service to your customers.

And if you make lots of money you can donate a percent to environmental charities and health services.

What these dicks at the mobile telecoms are doing is trying to bury the problem behind colluded studies and whitewashed organizations. You don't have to be a part of that.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


That is an excellent idea but shielding would negate the effectiveness of the communication. If you lower the thresholds you lower your range and capacity. I have been pondering with the idea of reprogramming a wireless access point / router to help counteract this problem. I don't have enough experience and degrees yet to be considered to have a valid opinion in the subject yet I believe that if the brain is mimicking radio waves intercepted (and it is) then this is the cause for a lot of these negative effects. I also believe that we can figure out which waves promote happiness and overall well being. Currently routers are being shipped with power saving technology to stop transmitting between cycles to preserve power. I believe that if we transmit healthy frequencies in between cycles we can counteract the harm we are doing to the planet and ourselves.
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...and that is why a massive cme would not necessarily be the worst thing that could happen to us.

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As someone who has been studying radio waves to a great extent as I had hoped to work in this field. The more I began to study how these worked in class the more unsettled I was by the immense saturation we are undergoing.

One day my professor commented on my bluetooth headset. Now bluetooth is a PAN network with a relatively small range used many types of devices but the most common being headsets. She said she would never use them and does not trust something like this attached to her head for prolonged periods of time.

We got into a discussion on the validity of her efforts to avoid exposure. I told her, "but even though I am wearing them and the headset is receiving them directly next to my brain, doesn't mean that I am not exposure her and everyone in the classroom to the same levels of exposure." Sure for the brief moments when I use the headset to send a signal such as pause or volume increase yes for a brief moment I am transmitting directly next to my brain but that changes nothing about overall exposure for all of us.

It has put me at quite the moral dilemma as I had been planning on starting my own network and wireless installation business. It was to focus primarily on nursing homes, elderly community centers, and schools. If the saturation of these waves is indeed causing anxiety, depression, insomnia, and cancer....well it's clear where my moral dilemma lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15680976


AC, you can model your business with a conscientious effort to make your services as environmentally friendly as possible. That could stand your business apart from others and make you more competitive in a niche market.

Where some companies might adhere to government set limits you can set your limits well below that threshold. You can market RF shielding and include detection and promote RF hazard awareness as part of your service to your customers.

And if you make lots of money you can donate a percent to environmental charities and health services.

What these dicks at the mobile telecoms are doing is trying to bury the problem behind colluded studies and whitewashed organizations. You don't have to be a part of that.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


That is an excellent idea but shielding would negate the effectiveness of the communication. If you lower the thresholds you lower your range and capacity. I have been pondering with the idea of reprogramming a wireless access point / router to help counteract this problem. I don't have enough experience and degrees yet to be considered to have a valid opinion in the subject yet I believe that if the brain is mimicking radio waves intercepted (and it is) then this is the cause for a lot of these negative effects. I also believe that we can figure out which waves promote happiness and overall well being. Currently routers are being shipped with power saving technology to stop transmitting between cycles to preserve power. I believe that if we transmit healthy frequencies in between cycles we can counteract the harm we are doing to the planet and ourselves.
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AC, you stand on the precipice of ingenuity, the motherhood of all invention. You are aware of the problems, now find a solution; a balance between RF protection while still having effective wireless communication.

Go forth and follow your hunches
"Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd
Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy
(...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty)

"Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge"

"The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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...and that is why a massive cme would not necessarily be the worst thing that could happen to us.
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Some might even see a long-term benefit
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For later viewing...
Born of the Cosmos...

"Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves."

Non Nobis Domine, Non Nobis, Sed Nomini Tuo Da Gloriam...
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bees are dying because of mosanto gmo corn and chemitrails!

they use Bees to polianate the Weaponised crops and chemitrails kills everything else then Gmo weaponised crops!

the alluminium in the air clogs the brain receptors of bees!

Alluminium is known to block freqeuncy!
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No, not chemicals, most of the harmfull ones of them are banned. Besides if it were chemicals why would'nt this phenomena reveal it self earlier. Because if there were a cummulative effect it would have shown years ago.

Mass microwave exposure by masts (cell towers) and cell phones especialy the higher band width is only prevalent the last six years or so. And it si not only birds, butterfly and bees that are dying.


THE TREES ARE DING ALSO MASSIVELY.

Look at horsechestnut die back, sudden oak death, ash die back.
All bacteria and fungusses that normaly are not pathogenic suddenly become threating to a tree. This is secondary effect caused a deteriorating immune system.

Look at this site it's in dutch but also in english

[link to www.boomaantastingen.nl]

Microwave Towers have and their frequency have damaging resonating affect on cells.
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I watched the video OP, and found it VERY informative.

Just wish they could have made it more interesting to watch in places... why the authors typed stats on the extinct, near extinct, and lower numbers of birds, bees and butterflies rather than using visuals with someone stating the facts is beyond me ... It takes concentration to read each new sentence quickly enough to read the next sentence of information and when you’re done, the retention of that info is nowhere near what I'd like it to be... I know I could pause and start, but that takes away from the overall experience as well.

But I will maintain this video is worth the time it takes to watch it.

This video should be of special interest to those with small children in their lives.. as they stand the chance of having the worst effects of all, when it comes to the manmade, magnetic frequency, radio waves, soup, we walk through on a daily basis.
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Excellent vid thanks for the head's up. Just got done watching it. I rarely use my cell phone but now I feel like ditching it altogether anyhow. Yikes.
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Video is gone. New link?
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[link to vimeo.com]
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All the suffering from electro sensitivity seem to have green/hazel eyes.........
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Did anyone else see a salt lamp on the shelf of one of those guys being interviewed? Funny if so, I just ordered two. Will be definitely re-wiring / re-thinking my electrical (magnetic frequency) needs. Will also research melatonin supplementation and how to "frequency " proof your living spaces. FANTASTIC post and will certainly pass the info on! Thank you, and keep quenching the thirst for knowledge! hf
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As someone who has been studying radio waves to a great extent as I had hoped to work in this field. The more I began to study how these worked in class the more unsettled I was by the immense saturation we are undergoing.

One day my professor commented on my bluetooth headset. Now bluetooth is a PAN network with a relatively small range used many types of devices but the most common being headsets. She said she would never use them and does not trust something like this attached to her head for prolonged periods of time.

We got into a discussion on the validity of her efforts to avoid exposure. I told her, "but even though I am wearing them and the headset is receiving them directly next to my brain, doesn't mean that I am not exposure her and everyone in the classroom to the same levels of exposure." Sure for the brief moments when I use the headset to send a signal such as pause or volume increase yes for a brief moment I am transmitting directly next to my brain but that changes nothing about overall exposure for all of us.

It has put me at quite the moral dilemma as I had been planning on starting my own network and wireless installation business. It was to focus primarily on nursing homes, elderly community centers, and schools. If the saturation of these waves is indeed causing anxiety, depression, insomnia, and cancer....well it's clear where my moral dilemma lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15680976


AC, you can model your business with a conscientious effort to make your services as environmentally friendly as possible. That could stand your business apart from others and make you more competitive in a niche market.

Where some companies might adhere to government set limits you can set your limits well below that threshold. You can market RF shielding and include detection and promote RF hazard awareness as part of your service to your customers.

And if you make lots of money you can donate a percent to environmental charities and health services.

What these dicks at the mobile telecoms are doing is trying to bury the problem behind colluded studies and whitewashed organizations. You don't have to be a part of that.
 Quoting: Nexus-9


That is an excellent idea but shielding would negate the effectiveness of the communication. If you lower the thresholds you lower your range and capacity. I have been pondering with the idea of reprogramming a wireless access point / router to help counteract this problem. I don't have enough experience and degrees yet to be considered to have a valid opinion in the subject yet I believe that if the brain is mimicking radio waves intercepted (and it is) then this is the cause for a lot of these negative effects. I also believe that we can figure out which waves promote happiness and overall well being. Currently routers are being shipped with power saving technology to stop transmitting between cycles to preserve power. I believe that if we transmit healthy frequencies in between cycles we can counteract the harm we are doing to the planet and ourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15680976


AC, you stand on the precipice of ingenuity, the motherhood of all invention. You are aware of the problems, now find a solution; a balance between RF protection while still having effective wireless communication.

Go forth and follow your hunches
 Quoting: Nexus-9


PowerFX (holographic disc) wrist bracelets could be a partial solution at least for people. But are you going to put one on every bee, bird and butterfly?

Answer: No. So it means wildlife having massive die offs, which could mean mosquitoes and other insects up the ying yang but no tasty food.

So sometimes the question isn't, "How can I fool mother nature?" It's, "How can I obey her?"
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Best solution is to sleep in a faraday cage or a room acting as one. metallic EM shielding paint, curtains, etc.

Or, use a metallic cloth draped over the bed like a mosquito net.

Either method, be sure to ground the shields.


This will allow us the "dark" sleep we need. We can face these EM fields during the day, but we need to avoid them at night.
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After watching this yesterday, I had a dream last night that really spooked me. My husband says its because of this.

Now normally I can realize I'm dreaming and change the dream, or wake myself up, but in this one I was stuck....I really thought it was real life. It was set in my room, but I could hear others talking. Then my tv, which was turned off both in the dream and in real life starting broadcasting a signal. It was coming out of the back of the tv. Sounded like a radio when you're in between stations, but there was someone talking in the transmission. I tried to move, but couldn't. Tried to wake my husband up, but couldn't talk, and the whole time the front of the tv is black and the back of it it flashing and has voices coming out of it.

I used to hear what sounded like a radio station transmission all the time while I was trying to sleep(worked midnights at the time), this was NOT the same. I have always had the ability to manipulate my dreams and realize I was dreaming, but this sucker was real. Or at least it felt real.

Just had to put it out there. Now I don't feel so nuts, lol!!
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We are doomed. Everyone stop using our cell phones!
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It's been pretty much proven that the dying of all the bees was due to a certain pesticide. the places that were isolated from the bee die-offs happened to be places without any farms spraying this pesticide. When the pesticide was stopped in certain areas, the bees came back. I'm an organic farmer, and every beekeeper I know is certain that the bee die-offs are due to this specific pesticide. I forget the name of the pesticide, but it causes bees to lose their bearings. There's no problem with bees dying in my area, and I live in the most densely populated part of the most densely populated state in the country, with cell phone towers and satellite dishes everywhere.

Not saying all this radiation isn't bad, obviously it is, but misinformation doesn't help anyone.
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Best solution is to sleep in a faraday cage or a room acting as one. metallic EM shielding paint, curtains, etc.

Or, use a metallic cloth draped over the bed like a mosquito net.

Either method, be sure to ground the shields.


This will allow us the "dark" sleep we need. We can face these EM fields during the day, but we need to avoid them at night.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


This is a good start to protect yourself. From there more needs to be done.

The sad fact is that cell phones need to be no more because we can't afford for the bees, the butterflies and the birds to die.

If they are dying off even though they don't have cell phones, it means we are, too.
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It's been pretty much proven that the dying of all the bees was due to a certain pesticide. the places that were isolated from the bee die-offs happened to be places without any farms spraying this pesticide. When the pesticide was stopped in certain areas, the bees came back. I'm an organic farmer, and every beekeeper I know is certain that the bee die-offs are due to this specific pesticide. I forget the name of the pesticide, but it causes bees to lose their bearings. There's no problem with bees dying in my area, and I live in the most densely populated part of the most densely populated state in the country, with cell phone towers and satellite dishes everywhere.

Not saying all this radiation isn't bad, obviously it is, but misinformation doesn't help anyone.
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No doubt Round Up is another big cause of the problem with bees.
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So many of you have been so grateful to discover this documentary, it deserves a bump.

If you feel like green pinning it to enable more people to also discover it, I'd be much obliged.
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