QUESTION: Why are LEFTISTS so accepting of AUTHORITARIANISM?

That's a nice narrative. The problem with Republicans is they believe their own narratives, even though they're demonstrably false. If you spent any time in a major city you would realize that a significant proportion of successful, hard-working people hold liberal views, while many of those on welfare vote GOP.

I have always avoided large cities. But I do NOT believe your narrative on the welfare people voting Republican. Case in point. NO large city voted for Romney. NONE! All voted overwhelmingly for Obama, unless you are conceeding that there was massive voter fraud.

I was thinking the same thing. All the left want to do is tell us how to run our lives and control everything. The right expect you to stand up for yourself

Large cities is where liberalism works best. If you don't get liberalism, it's because you also don't get urbanism. The rural conservative mentality of "me, my family, and my guns against the world" simply doesn't work in a city. In fact, it seems completely absurd to an urbanite. Also, you are mistaken in thinking the welfare recipients are all in large cities. Some are, but many others are in low-density trailer parks far from any major city. Such people are mostly white, dirt poor, and vote Republican, and they number in the millions.

Fluoride hasn't helped their mental clarity either, nor has their dumbed down socialist-programed educational curriculum.

At the local level, I think these pukes believe that they will be in positions of authority...of honor, in the NWO.

In my world also! Think ACLU and Amnesty International. Think artists and musicians. Think parenting practices that support reason and self-esteem instead of "because I said so" ...

I sense that you are talking about your particular state. Where I am from, most of the larger cities still vote in a more democratic party mode, with the outlying areas voting republican. Your so-called "trailer park" voters usually don't vote. They may accept government handouts, but seldom vote as a block, but if they do, I have yet to see any impact upon the voting results. It still comes down to where most of the people that accept government handouts are the ones that will overwhelmingly vote democratic party. This does not include those accepting social security, as most do not see that as an entitlement, but as a reward that they have paid into for many years of labor.

It is right that people that have done what is expected from them to be rewarded with what they justly deserve, but I will never accept the right of those that do NOT add to the country to be the ones that decides who should receive and who shall not.

When you live in a city, you mostly encounter city government, and it mostly does good things. When you live in the country, you mostly see county, state and federal government, and mostly in the form of telling you that you can't do something. Therefore, urbanites have a very different relationship with government than rural people. It isn't that one political ideology is better overall, but that an urban environment requires a different mindset than the country. That's why most conservatives avoid big cities: their mindset and ideology simply don't work there.

You are simply restating the false narrative that conservatives are hard working and responsible while liberals are lazy whiners who want handouts. That is a Republican myth, not reality. It isn't that liberalism doesn't work, it's that you fail to understand how it works within it's proper context.

Leftists aren't accepting of authoritarianism.

We just don't spend half our lives fantasizing and obsessing about it. 'Rightists' on the other hand tend to have their entire identity linked to this fantasy where the gubmint comes to take your guns, or try to make your kids gay or take away your bibles or whatever, and you hold your ground in a 48 hour standoff where thousands of rounds are exchanged and you teach the gubmint why they shouldn't mess with a real 'murican.

You yearn for it. You're desperate to see it everywhere you look, and on some level you're probably disappointed when you don't find it.

Libertarian conservatives did not stand up and cheer. The patriot Act was one area of common ground between libertarian conservatives and many in the political left. But, instead of joining together to fight TPTB and preserve our liberties, we were easily separated and conquered by those same people via the two party system. I'm always hearing from the gay community, abortionists and other left wing activist groups about how they want government out of their lives but then they go ahead and support people that want to ban soft drinks, cigarettes, expand domestic spying and database every citizen's medical records. Well, either you are for government being out of your life or you're not. You cannot parse out and support only the parts that you like because you are eroding every citizen's liberty in the process. I'm sorry that so many don't see that.

I do truly understand liberalism, I happen to be married to one. I have yet to understand the reasoning behind the ideations of most liberals. I do not understand why everyone HAS to be a winner, why everyone shall have a RIGHT to something that requires time, effort, and money. I will never understand why some should NOT have to work, earn, or put forth the effort that others do in order to have the same things. I am NOT rich, I worked my ass off for over thirty years, unknowingly destroying my lungs in the process, and when I started receiving disability, having half of it taken away to support those that would rather sit on their ass and do nothing and actually receive more handouts from the government that I have a right to collect!

It's this leftist conceit, again, that says "If you're not a Commie-Pinko Fag, like me and my wife, who both drive hybrids and sniff our own farts, then you MUST be a Rightist-Fascist!"

You have just proven that you do not understand liberalism. Liberalism is not about handouts, laziness, or dependence on government; that is merely a deliberate mischaracterization made by pundits on the right.

You are obviously a shill working for the liberals. You never hear a Republican talk about free handouts from the government as an entitlement. You never hear about republicans talking about increasing taxes, creating more government, protecting more and more people by giving out more and more free crap that they have no right to collect. No, you never hear a republican say such things, but that is all you will hear a liberal say.

A liberla is not for less government, less taxes, less handouts given to those that have no right to collect. No, a liberal is in favor of as much government as other people's money can afford. As long as it is other people's money. A liberal want more and more laws to protect the enviroment against loggers that cut the trees to build the houses that the government wants to give to illegals. A liberal wants more and more laws to protect an area because an owl was spotted there fifty years ago. They want more and more laws to keep America from drilling for the lifeblood oil that the country needs, because it would be better to have to buy it from some other courty than allow America to support themselves. Only a liberal will say that people should be given a free ride instead of having to earn their way!

Don't tell me that I am confused about what liberals want and stand for, I have been seeing it in action for sixty years and it still doesn't work. Don't sell your children and grand-children's future just because you will NOT have to pay for it.

I take it you are unfamiliar with George W Bush?

Because that guy turned your country into a pseudo-police state, created unprecedented government expansion, and mailed everyone in the country a check for a couple hundred bucks.

Totalitarian governments are universally despised by people who can think. I had several IMPEACH BUSH T shirts and I'm looking for an Obama one. Can't stand that little twat SOB.

Classical liberalism - what the U.S. is founded on. Learn your history.

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Because they love their father, Hitler!

i have completely given up on the left.

i find the vast majority of these people so hypocritical they're repugnant.

i have basically shunned then from every aspect of my life. i will not do business with them, or any company that promotes a liberal agenda.

i don't watch their television shows or listen to their music or propaganda.

i even have a number of far-left family member who i now refuse to talk to.

as far as i'm concerned, they ARE the enemy and i want as little to do with them as possible.

but i do enjoy mocking them here, on glp.

Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 12/27/2012 01:23 AM

What a stupid thread.
your a very stupid man.

leftist?

what is that? EXACTLY ???

do you know?

no, you cannot know.

why?

Because it is just a made up buzz word

right wing, leftist, liberal,republican, democrat..

they all mean NOTHING

Stupidity runs deep in you

I`m pro choice
anti-government
pro-gun
pro legalized pot
anti- corporate
anti- AUTHORITARIANISM

so

what buzzword do I fit into to??

wait....
i`m also anti-war ( in a big way)

And the proper context of course is collectivism with a supreme leader, right?

The free forces side. Or the resistance.

nicely said Ralph.

I am leftist and am extremely anti authoritarian. In fact I think the baby conservatises are children who worship strong figures, ripe for authoritarian father figures.

the typical libertarian sheep is way too subservient of an authoritarian and unable to think for themselves as an individual.