Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 1,993 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 127,193
Pageviews Today: 174,343Threads Today: 46Posts Today: 688
01:12 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?

 
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1077796
Canada
11/30/2012 07:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Where did the aliens come from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28801734


Put very simply, Chemistry! No god needed!
 Quoting: The Scientist


What created chemistry? Or are you saying God is chemistry?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1647785
United States
11/30/2012 07:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Lets face it, considering the facts we know and the scale of the universe, god is most likely just a visiting alien race conducting a genetic experiment or interplanetary propagation just like we envisage humans doing on Mars.

God is a fallacy dreamt up to control the masses by the elite.

Religion needs to be banned.

Disagree? Then state your case!
 Quoting: The Scientist


But, but.... What about the Promised land?.....






hiding
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1372987
United States
11/30/2012 07:02 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
What if there is a creator for every galaxy? What if every creator is one of us and we all decided on a planet in each galaxy to see how we can perfect intelligence in life forms, be it carbon based or whatever? Maybe we have to make it through each galaxy and their "God's" creation before we vote on who is the leader of all galaxies?

I don't know the answer just as you don't know the answer, that's why I'll stay agnostic until I have proof on either side.

That's probably why I'm agnostic. You can pretty much make up anything, but we'll probably never know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25494099


times and dimensions must also be considered
it's really too much to grab onto..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24516408
Canada
11/30/2012 07:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
AGREE 100%..........NO religion.

Whether there is a 'god' or not I do not know. But there's no way that dusty old book is god's written word. Every war and every tear can be traced to religion.

Life without religion would be awesome. Let's see what we're really made of and leave off the guilt and manipulation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545733



'dusty old book' ? try picking it up and reading it.

Every tear and every war is traced to human EGO. Period.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 17929989
Australia
11/30/2012 07:03 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
So you believe DNA came about by chance?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28801734


I dont believe it, I know it!

Everything came about by chance, thats why humans can create totally new chemistry that has never existed (at least not on this planet) simply by manipulating the raw materials around us, nature does likewise.

The big bang theory is as insane as the god theory, religion is a delusion on a grand scale.

Why not just accept that spirituality is good, religion is evil.
 Quoting: The Scientist


"Simply by manipulating"..which requires a MANIPULATOR.

BANG goes your logic..

It takes BRAINS and SCIENCE to manipulate anything.

Also your logic flies right in the face of the second law of thermodynamics.

But if you are so convinced..lets see how many years you would have to study to take a pile of raw ore and pertrochemical products and turn them into an f22 stealthfighter...

After all..its just SIMPLE manipulation that..according to you..would happen all by itself eventually anyway.

BTW..a simple basic cell is thousands of times more complex than the most advanced fighter jets.

So..get manipulating..oh thats right..you are NOT allowed to TOUCH that pile of raw ore..you have to let NATURE make that jet fighter quite by accident.

PLUS it must be fuelled and ready to fly..armed to the teeth..

OK NATURE..GO FOR IT.

How long do you think it will take..WITHOUT you laying a single finger on the project?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17929989


Keep ignoring the truth OP.

Perhaps given enough bumps it might evolve quite by accident into a complec intricate theory proving you are in fact correct.

Lets keep bumping it and see what happens.
SIR GC(NEW AGE SCHOLAR)

User ID: 8145820
United States
11/30/2012 07:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Hate to break it to you but the god, the creator as i call it is very real. You referred to him in religion, but you havent cited the critical differences between misleading religions and spirituality. Science only has the answers to this realm, this dimension.
You can only deceive
For as long as,
The people choose to believe
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24028110
United States
11/30/2012 07:08 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
...


I'm not talking about our laws I'm talking about Universal Laws. Our Scientific "Laws" are simply an observation of Universal Laws THAT CANNOT BE BROKEN.

You cannot disprove this statement therefor every other argument is irrelevant.

There are Laws in this Universe that cannot be broken:
Nothing can come from Nothing, for something to exist it must first be created.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28802277


Sorry but universal laws are as you say observations which unfortunately are susceptible to new observations which means they are not infallible, they are only correct until the next observation changes it, what may be universal on earth is unlikely to be universal somewhere else, we can only make presumptions based on observations and human experience, doesn't make what we presume are universal laws correct though.
 Quoting: The Scientist


Wrong again. Our understanding of the Universal Laws are the only thing that changes NOT the Laws themselves.

Scientifically speaking, Universal Laws are Laws that cannot be broken. If a "Law" can be broken then it is not a "Law" at all.
You obviously are not a scientist or able to look at the subject in a scientific frame of mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28802277


Universal laws are framed by humans, universal laws have been proven to be wrong, universal laws as far as humans understand them are based on human observations, universal laws cannot be universal laws unless you have visited every outpost of the universe to check they are universal, if anyone cannot think scientifically its you as you obviously cannot grasp that humans are invariably wrong about pretty much everything, religion is a prime example of our illogical thought processes.
 Quoting: The Scientist


I'll ask again; who outside of the human race has realized these laws are breakable? What scientific method did you use to come to this conclusion? If true, the whole scientific community will be turned on its head a lose a lot of credibility (yourself included).
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28806711
United States
11/30/2012 07:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
God is an energy that is infinite, and intelligent. It manifests throughout the heavens all forms and abilities.
It has nothing to do with religion, that is a fantasy thought up by the spiritually ignorant mind out of fear and desire to be with like minded manifestations.
rickky

User ID: 27848641
United States
11/30/2012 07:09 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
That only makes up 5% of the universe Liquids,Gases solids and plasma, do you know what makes up the other 95% because our scientist don't.
[link to science.nasa.gov]

Last Edited by rickky on 11/30/2012 07:10 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24516408
Canada
11/30/2012 07:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
OP doesn't believe in God because OP likes to BREAK LAWS.


If you do not turn from SIN, you will DIE in your SIN.


Jesus Christ conquered SIN.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1372987
United States
11/30/2012 07:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
OP doesn't believe in God because OP likes to BREAK LAWS.


If you do not turn from SIN, you will DIE in your SIN.


Jesus Christ conquered SIN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24516408


Jesus and his buddies on a trip! that's laughable lol
The Scientist (OP)
Time flies but aeroplanes crash

User ID: 23788152
United Kingdom
11/30/2012 07:22 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
...


Sorry but universal laws are as you say observations which unfortunately are susceptible to new observations which means they are not infallible, they are only correct until the next observation changes it, what may be universal on earth is unlikely to be universal somewhere else, we can only make presumptions based on observations and human experience, doesn't make what we presume are universal laws correct though.
 Quoting: The Scientist


Wrong again. Our understanding of the Universal Laws are the only thing that changes NOT the Laws themselves.

Scientifically speaking, Universal Laws are Laws that cannot be broken. If a "Law" can be broken then it is not a "Law" at all.
You obviously are not a scientist or able to look at the subject in a scientific frame of mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28802277


Universal laws are framed by humans, universal laws have been proven to be wrong, universal laws as far as humans understand them are based on human observations, universal laws cannot be universal laws unless you have visited every outpost of the universe to check they are universal, if anyone cannot think scientifically its you as you obviously cannot grasp that humans are invariably wrong about pretty much everything, religion is a prime example of our illogical thought processes.
 Quoting: The Scientist


I'll ask again; who outside of the human race has realized these laws are breakable? What scientific method did you use to come to this conclusion? If true, the whole scientific community will be turned on its head a lose a lot of credibility (yourself included).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


Herein lies your main problem, prove they cant be broken, you can't so therefore your claims that a law is truly universal and cant be broken is just a theory, just like much of cosmology and religion and god, its all theory, there is no proof one way or the other, there are no universal laws because its impossible to prove one way or the other.

Last Edited by The Scientist on 11/30/2012 07:23 PM
pi
User ID: 20063747
Canada
11/30/2012 07:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Sigh...

Ah well, I suppose if they want to be stubborn, let them.

Can't blame me for one more crack at this; "God" is chirality. Open your eyes. Why is something left-handed and not right-handed? Why is there even a difference?

And finally what is the consequence? That's the "god" that science reveals. It is meant as a layered metaphor to summon/control the Force of Desire, the kundalini. Religion, prayer, meditation, sacred texts ect. is so that we can control our own minds. Of course people will twist that into whatever makes them money, eg. catholicism. Yet the influence of the idiotic masses is waning. So a new belief must arise.
714

User ID: 26063685
United States
11/30/2012 07:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
lol, you're numbers are a pittance.


"omg, all those zeros!!!! there can't be a god!!"


embarassingly ridiculous argument

Last Edited by 714 on 11/30/2012 07:34 PM
Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 24028110
United States
11/30/2012 07:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
...


Wrong again. Our understanding of the Universal Laws are the only thing that changes NOT the Laws themselves.

Scientifically speaking, Universal Laws are Laws that cannot be broken. If a "Law" can be broken then it is not a "Law" at all.
You obviously are not a scientist or able to look at the subject in a scientific frame of mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28802277


Universal laws are framed by humans, universal laws have been proven to be wrong, universal laws as far as humans understand them are based on human observations, universal laws cannot be universal laws unless you have visited every outpost of the universe to check they are universal, if anyone cannot think scientifically its you as you obviously cannot grasp that humans are invariably wrong about pretty much everything, religion is a prime example of our illogical thought processes.
 Quoting: The Scientist


I'll ask again; who outside of the human race has realized these laws are breakable? What scientific method did you use to come to this conclusion? If true, the whole scientific community will be turned on its head a lose a lot of credibility (yourself included).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


Herein lies your main problem, prove they cant be broken, you can't so therefore your claims that a law is truly universal and cant be broken is just a theory, just like much of cosmology and religion and god, its all theory, there is no proof one way or the other, there are no universal laws because its impossible to prove one way or the other.
 Quoting: The Scientist


Since you've lost control of this thread, I'll just add this; you've made good progress today! Instead of anything being definitive (damn you science!), you're now at least admitting that there could be a probable theory of a Superior Being, because science is failing to answer the hard questions alone. Congrats! You're now agnostic. Tomorrow we'll work on making you Catholic. After that, Methodist, then Baptist, Jehova's Witness...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5505436
United Kingdom
11/30/2012 07:35 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
why do the jesuits run the world if god is make believe?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 5164756
United States
11/30/2012 07:40 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
With the staggering number of galaxies, planets and so forth growing almost yearly, or rather being observed by humans, it's probably this number is going to be so grand within just our lifetime. It's truly incomprehensible. To make matters worse, what I believe, and few young guns in the acedemia world, is that this universe was actually birthed from the other side of a black hole, meaning the possibility that blackholes, suppermassive ones to be direct, are universe creators. Which makes us so much more insignificant, or wonderful depending on modern belief systems. Our understanding of the universe is still very young in its search for answers. The possibility that it is going to extreemly more weird is very real. I dare say that we will reach a point where we no longer are able to fathom the simplest of questions. Does this point to an intelligent designer? In my opinion no, it points to the fact that at this point we simply aren't equipped to grasp what the universe is. Much less its purpose, or our purpose which is most likely something of little consequence. Man has this way of claiming if it is not one asnwer it must be the other, it is a very immature way of thinking. The most logical explanation to god or no god arguments is both are wrong and that's the best we have right now. No point with the back and forth. Perhaps in 10,000 years we can have a better idea. But we are only a few thousand years old as it is. So can we please focus on the things that matter, such as living longer and bettering our understanding..
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28775762
Argentina
11/30/2012 07:42 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Lets face it, considering the facts we know and the scale of the universe, god is most likely just a visiting alien race conducting a genetic experiment or interplanetary propagation just like we envisage humans doing on Mars.

God is a fallacy dreamt up to control the masses by the elite.

Religion needs to be banned.

Disagree? Then state your case!
 Quoting: The Scientist


clappa

Religions' 'God' is a fucking joke.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 22787868
Canada
11/30/2012 07:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
There are no galaxies. There's just diamonds being projected into the sky. Cool trick eh.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28737707
United States
11/30/2012 07:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Lets face it, considering the facts we know and the scale of the universe, god is most likely just a visiting alien race conducting a genetic experiment or interplanetary propagation just like we envisage humans doing on Mars.

God is a fallacy dreamt up to control the masses by the elite.

Religion needs to be banned.

Disagree? Then state your case!
 Quoting: The Scientist


So who or what created all those hundreds of billions of planets and stars?

(and hundreds of billions of universes that you didn't even bother to mention)
BANISHED
User ID: 28709167
United States
11/30/2012 08:04 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
How ironic.

You say - "There is no God". You say you believe in chemistry and physics.

I say the chemistry and physics that you put your faith in - is an illusion of your consciousness. I say "You and I don't exist."

If we don't exist, how can we possibly ever determine whether God exists?
The Scientist (OP)
Time flies but aeroplanes crash

User ID: 23788152
United Kingdom
11/30/2012 08:09 PM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
How ironic.

You say - "There is no God". You say you believe in chemistry and physics.

I say the chemistry and physics that you put your faith in - is an illusion of your consciousness. I say "You and I don't exist."

If we don't exist, how can we possibly ever determine whether God exists?
 Quoting: BANISHED 28709167


How can God exist or create without chemistry?
mezroy
User ID: 20460818
United States
11/30/2012 08:13 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
nope dont beleive in shit.Keep the religo shit elsewhere time for reality not the relgion word. What the hell yuppies get a grip on the god thing its a fucking joke you die and rot as if your fav dog does .Is there a higher power.Yes.Its sure not some geek giving two choices heaven or hell.What a bunch of shit.Wake the fuckup.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1077796
Canada
11/30/2012 08:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
How ironic.

You say - "There is no God". You say you believe in chemistry and physics.

I say the chemistry and physics that you put your faith in - is an illusion of your consciousness. I say "You and I don't exist."

If we don't exist, how can we possibly ever determine whether God exists?
 Quoting: BANISHED 28709167


How can God exist or create without chemistry?
 Quoting: The Scientist


Are you talking to yourself?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28614018
United States
11/30/2012 08:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
and even more amazing..... all the parts, all the pieces; from the tiniest to the most massive all sing YAH constantly with the entire universe resounding with YAH at every level in all places at once and always in past and future with the entire creation singing His Name by their very existence because He created them when He spoke them into being in the power of His Name YAH. His creation proclaims Him. yet He gave man the freedom to ignore or deny His Truth if they choose to. But His creation does not deny Him. The universe declares Him constantly.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28216119
United States
11/30/2012 08:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Lets face it, considering the facts we know and the scale of the universe, god is most likely just a visiting alien race conducting a genetic experiment or interplanetary propagation just like we envisage humans doing on Mars.

God is a fallacy dreamt up to control the masses by the elite.

Religion needs to be banned.

Disagree? Then state your case!
 Quoting: The Scientist


How do you think it all got there, by chance? What are the odds of that?

Atheism is the religion of the Elite.
Religion breeds Faith and Hope, these are enemies of the Elite, as they work to create FEAR and Discouragement.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28811467
United States
11/30/2012 08:46 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
ROMANS 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven
against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is
manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the
creation of the world are clearly seen,
being understood by the things that are made,
even his eternal power and Godhead;
so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified
him not as God, neither were thankful;
but became vain in their imaginations,
and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 28779736
Philippines
11/30/2012 08:58 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Lets face it, considering the facts we know and the scale of the universe, god is most likely just a visiting alien race conducting a genetic experiment or interplanetary propagation just like we envisage humans doing on Mars.

God is a fallacy dreamt up to control the masses by the elite.

Religion needs to be banned.

Disagree? Then state your case!
 Quoting: The Scientist


clappa
God Loves ALL

User ID: 24314824
United States
11/30/2012 09:10 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Yes I know the Father Within Me. And its lots bigger than you can see. GOD IS THE MIND THAT PERVADES IT ALL. Not a grumpy old man that saves some and roasts others.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One

Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 6035221
United States
11/30/2012 09:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: 170 Billion Galaxies each with 400 billion stars each with 400 billion planets just in the Observable Universe and you still believe in GOD?
Ever think about the billions and billions of tiny bacteria that live inside your body that allow you to live?

News